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Phiyega halts crime intelligence interviews

2012-06-21 09:37

Johannesburg - Newly appointed national police commissioner General Mangwashi Riah Phiyega has halted interviews for major generals to command crime intelligence operations in six provinces, The Star reported on Thursday.

Major General Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi confirmed to the paper that the interviews had been cancelled on Phiyega's instruction.

"She requested that they will be put on hold until she understands crime intelligence, which is understandable," he was quoted as saying.

Five candidates had been flown to Pretoria for interviews on Tuesday, but were informed upon their arrival that the interviews had been cancelled.

The positions had been frozen until further notice, the daily reported.

Comments
  • Kala - 2012-06-21 09:41

    Why did they not cancel the interviews before they arrived in Pretoria?

      Kala - 2012-06-21 09:43

      The reason we should employ someone with a police back ground is so a year is not wasted whilst a political appointment tries to understand the ins and outs of her job. The criminals must be loving the current police farce.

      asteyn - 2012-06-21 09:57

      "until she understands crime intelligence"... OMG this could take a while...

      Alf - 2012-06-21 10:02

      Because the tax payer foots the bill for the flights and their accommodation, including booze! It has become a favourite of our officials at all levels to squander tax payers' money whenever and wherever possible. The mofu's who spend it never worked for it anyway!

      francois.smith.7 - 2012-06-21 10:02

      Either crime intelligence or police intelligence must be a contradiction in terms.

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-06-21 10:13

      Our police commissioner doesnt understand crime intelligence. Surely this should be a prerequisite to become police chief!

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-06-21 10:15

      At least she tries to do it correctly.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-06-21 10:38

      For heaven's sake can they employ at least one person with the necessary qualifications ! What the devil is she doing in this position. A police officer that has come through the ranks, and who knows everything on policing and crime should have been given the job.

      gert.grobler.94 - 2012-06-21 10:49

      "She requested that they will be put on hold until she understands crime intelligence"--THAT MEANS --ON HOLD ---FOR EVER. That is what we were saying---A POLICEMAN FROM THE RANKS WOULD HAVE KNOWN BY NOW WHAT THE JOB OF CRIME INTELLIGENCE ENTAILS----Our misery here in SA will become worse---fire her now ---please....

      gert.grobler.94 - 2012-06-21 11:00

      She should take her sick leave now and study (in her own time, not wasting tax money), all there is to learn about the police force and once she knows a bit more she would hopefully realize she is NOT QUALIFIED AND SHE WILL RESIGN and pay back the enormous salary she got . Zuma and she should be taken to court then for any murder or rape etc. that has taken place during this leaderless 'wasteful time'.

      Joubs1957 - 2012-06-21 12:01

      @zukile.marcus - I wander how "intelligent you are???? - she is not a political appointee???? ya right hey she was most qualified unpolitical person i presume????

  • blackjew69 - 2012-06-21 09:49

    Am sure the commisioner didnt even know she had a meeting. Incompetency of the SAPS.

      Joubs1957 - 2012-06-21 12:03

      She probably rushed to Pretoria in her "blue light brigade convoy" endangering countless lives and disobeying all traffic rules to go and tell them the meeting was off!!! ha ha ha

  • joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-06-21 09:51

    She is doing the right thing, as the boss you cannot have direct reports being employed as you join without your input

      Dee - 2012-06-21 11:39

      Indeed. If it was a new CEO being appointed to e.g ?Shell Africa, they would be afforded time before being able to exercise judgment on key executive appointments. I would criticise her if she did not take time to get fully appraised before exercising her judgment.

  • Bugprof - 2012-06-21 09:55

    I think it's a good move. She needs to understand the positions she's trying to fill so the right people are placed. If not, in a few months time we sit more public servants on suspension with full pay.

      Kala - 2012-06-21 09:58

      Bugprof - If the right people were placed in the first place they would have to cancel meetings whilst they tried to understand what their job is about. She has absolutely no policing back ground. So we each time their is a decision to be made it will be delayed whilst she tries to understand what the decision is about.

      john.loveland.9 - 2012-06-21 10:04

      They paid the cost to fly them up. She could have done the interview and become acquainted with her personnel... even if she was to delay the appointment till later.

      Bugprof - 2012-06-21 10:14

      @Kala, I understand your concern, hopefully she finds her feet soon. @john.loveland, you are 100% right, at least conduct the interviews.

  • mnathisto - 2012-06-21 10:01

    General Bheki Cele would dearly b missed in the SAPS

      Antipoaching - 2012-06-21 10:27

      you forget that Cele too had no policing experience when appointed as Commissioner by his friend JZ.... lets give this woman a chance, at least she survived the cut and thrust of the corporate world prior to her quasi-govt appointments Cele was nothing more than a political lackey, with no training or apptitude for anything, throughout his "career"

      badballie - 2012-06-21 10:34

      Only in the blue mafia divisions!

      njdejager - 2012-06-21 10:35

      No he wont....at all!

  • matshobana.siziba - 2012-06-21 10:02

    In short she acknowledges that she is not qualified for the job yet some1 went on to employ her. Know your job first before you get hired not the otherway round. I agree with the prospect that she wasnt even aware that there was a meeting scheduled for her.

      Dee - 2012-06-21 11:44

      Matshobana - executive positions are more about GOOD JUDGMENT and senior management skills. She apparently comes with those skills - and would be a fool to be making key appointments without first being fully appraised of the position and people. She may even want to change the job description / terms of reference / organisation structure of the Intelligence services ...and would be in her executive rights to do so.

      matshobana.siziba - 2012-06-21 12:17

      @ Dee how the hell does someone who is clueless on a certain field go on to change the job decription, terms of reference etc. There is no way one can make a rational decision or let alone make a good judgement of something they know zilch about. If she is on orientation fair enough but she must put everything on halt way in advance adn display her "good management" skills. Flight and hotel bookings for 5 ocandidates comes out of someone's pocket - our pockets.

      Dee - 2012-06-21 13:01

      Yes - you can argue wasted expenditure on flights. Perhaps she did use their presence productively and meet the candidates ...but not interview or appoint them - and thereby possibly face even more expensive SAPS & Intelligence division labour court cases, golden handshakes and "medical parole" costs tax payers bear from this state sector.

  • ziggamann.shepard - 2012-06-21 10:05

    Is this caster semenya disguised as the general?

  • Gavin - 2012-06-21 10:05

    Commissioner - I am an ex cop, you have my support :-)

  • rock.jason.52 - 2012-06-21 10:12

    You don't have to be a drunkard to know the smell of the beer...... Phiyega keep learning mama!!!

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-06-21 10:13

    No doubt and not long before she will also be found guilty of wastefull expenditure, if she does'nt get her act together very quickly. Doing the same as what Cele did (just to try and understand her job), makes no difference to how much the tax payers have to cough up everytime. Same story over and over again, therefor the chain of wasteful expenditure are not being broken, but just enhanced. Actually zuma must be found incompetant for wasteful expenditure as he appointed her.

  • kevin.day.7370 - 2012-06-21 10:18

    I feel sorry for her and admire that she has delayed her decisions until she knows more about crime intelligence. But really, should she have been appointed and does she not have a team working with her? CEOs move from one company to another and rely on their board of directors for input and advice before they apply their own decision-making skills. She does have those skills, right?

  • Andre - 2012-06-21 10:26

    The joy rides which, most likely was is business class, is part of the "perks" the ANC officials are entitled to so, why not? No vision, no planning, no sense of sanity, no brains...welcome to the world of the fat cats!

  • Kenna - 2012-06-21 10:42

    She doesn't understand crime intelligence? Oh good grief. Can we please have a real cop run this show?

  • wendy.n.schmidt - 2012-06-21 10:46

    Maybe, just maybe they need to employ someone not involved with the police, so that she can be objective. At least she wants to study crime intelligence .. it would seem the last two didn't .. so here's hoping that she doesn't have her own agenda and will make a difference.

  • betsie.ackerman - 2012-06-21 11:10

    O dear me, this could take a while? Does not understand crime intelligence? How did she get the job in the first place?

  • Bob - 2012-06-21 11:17

    This is unbelievable. I am sure my housekeeper would have been up to speed in this job faster than Riah Phiyega is herself going backwards. How in the hell did Zuma pick someone as unskilled as this, for such a vital position. SA has to be the most pathetically run country in the universe, let alone on the planet. Also why has Riah Phiyega not made at least a statement, or even a comment, about the 20 police members from the Cato Manor police unit that have been arrested on numerous serious charges. I think Zuma is going to get egg all over his face again with his appointment of Riah Phiyega

      laetitia.clark - 2012-06-21 11:38

      Egg on his face is nothing............he can wash HIV away in the shower so egg should not be a challenge :)

      elspeth.hassall - 2012-06-21 11:54

      Maybe you and your "house keeper" should go chat to Zuma...you may even qualify as you would be BEE compliant! I have never read such a stupid comment!

      Joubs1957 - 2012-06-21 12:08

      She comes from the previous portfolio of: "Salaries for office bearers" She probably organized old JZ a massive increase etc. in exchange for the new job!!!

      Joubs1957 - 2012-06-21 12:09

      She hasnt made a statement because she doesnt UNDERSTAND what happened there yet! As soon as she UNDERSTANDS she will explain????

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-06-21 12:48

      Oh give me a break! She has accepted the offer. Now crime intelligence officers must be appointed without her involvement? She's in the same position as the CEO remember? What if people are appointed on the basis of nepotism and who are incompetent? You will be pointing fingers at her again. Jeez, can people not whine for just a moment? That is ehy SA is such an unhappy place, because whiners are waiting for every opportunity to depress the rest of the country

  • laetitia.clark - 2012-06-21 11:35

    Intelligence ???? Just saying !!

  • Gerald - 2012-06-21 11:51

    Shame, this must be so confusing for her. All she wanted was a bucket of chicken and now all of this...

      joshua.medupi - 2012-06-25 09:57

      Gerald sometimes we need 2 face challenges and I think we must give her a time and she will come up with good solution 2 this fight against crime.

  • Joubs1957 - 2012-06-21 11:53

    I dont understand why we need to understand that she doesnt understand Crime Intelligence untill she understands. We have to understand that understanding could lead to mis-understanding of the understandings....(is anything in any government department or any official understandable in any case???(BANANA REPUBLICANS!!!!)

  • romeo.mahlalela - 2012-06-21 11:54

    As I stated before that appointing a rookie for such executive position, will mean or lead to a mismanagement or maladministration of this organization (SAPS), and this the beginning, and still more impolitic decisions are looming or still coming from this office. THIS IS COMPLETELY A LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM AND POOR MANAGEMENT TO THE CORE. Still learning! WHAT A DISGRACE! We, as Taxpayers,still pay fat salaries for such incompetence and ignorance of such immature and inexperienced public servant. This is really an annoying and embarassing state of affairs. The worst part of the problem, she was appointed by the country's president. The current situation is not really Imposing at all. Much to my disgust! I rest my case.

      Joubs1957 - 2012-06-21 11:57

      Amen brother

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-06-21 12:41

      I think she wants to understand the operations and calibre of people who must appointed. What with Mdhluli and company appointing their wives, grandfathers, etc. If such appointments were made under her watch she would have been damned too.

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