Police quietly lower targets

2010-02-25 08:14

Cape Town - The police have quietly lowered their target of reducing serious violent crime by between 7% and 10% annually.

An official from the National Treasury said in Parliament on Wednesday that national police chief Bheki Cele has revised the percentages because the police have "failed" to reach the higher targets over the past couple of years.

The police have now undertaken to reduce crimes such as murder, rape, hijackings and armed robberies at homes and business by between 4% and 7% each year.

"The new target is low. Given the violent nature of crime in our country I don't think the broad public are going to be happy with this," Rendani Randela admitted to the portfolio committee on police.

R5.5bn more

The new targets have been given to the National Treasury in preparation for the budget speeches of the national departments.

This means Cele and his officials will get R5.5bn more for the 2010-'11 financial year to reach lower targets than those set out in the previous financial year. Sindi Chikunga, ANC MP and committee chair, has promised to call Cele to Parliament to motivate the decision.

Another ANC MP later told Beeld they are "very unhappy" about the new targets. "Actually it's completely unacceptable. We will apply pressure [to have the targets revised]."

DA MP Dianne Kohler Barnard earlier said that Cele and his top management use the money which was set aside for visible policing for "small contingencies such as police parties in Bloemfontein".

"We still don't know how much the party cost or where the money came from."


Up to 38% of the police budget - which is almost R21bn - was intended for visible policing. Currently legislation allows the police to use up to 8% of this budget (which is about R1.7bn) for other purposes without first getting permission from the treasury.

Both the ANC and the DA feel this is outrageous.

"We must ensure that the money is used for the intended purpose," said ANC MP Annelizé van Wyk.

It also seems that there are questions about the tender process followed by the police.

Cele asked the auditor-general's (AG) office to investigate alleged irregularities after certain tenders were awarded. The AG didn't want to elaborate, but did confirm that the investigation will be completed by May.

  • Graham - 2010-02-25 08:19

    This lowering of targets is simply to cover up their incompetence with Cele leading the way. The manner in which the police abuse their power (blue lights and the poor chap beaten up in Brakpan) are also a major issue for this one party abusive country we live in

  • Alan - 2010-02-25 08:30

    Awesome. I also want more money for doing less work!!!!!!

  • Surprise - 2010-02-25 08:31

    And again amazement everywhere......

  • mikeh - 2010-02-25 08:33

    That sounds just like cosatu members dreams
    for less and less work for more and more money.

  • Leo - 2010-02-25 08:36

    IS somebody missing the point here?!!! - Policing is not just another Job to be done .. what is this man thinking 4 -7 % Police 93 -96 % salary, cookies and tea?! - Unreal

  • arnold - 2010-02-25 08:38

    Once again, striving for mediocrity.If you cannot make your target ,lower the standards.Same applies to education and everything else for that matter.If these officials worked in private enterprize they would all be fired.

  • Paul - 2010-02-25 08:44

    I think we should be reasonable about this. How can we expect the SAPS to fight crime when they have to use so many of their resources harassing licensed and legal gunowners?

  • CitizenX - 2010-02-25 08:47

    and that simply is why not one of them would be able to make it in the private sector. The new government is the only place where you get more money and need to do less. If you still fail you just lower the tagets further! When you eventually lower it so far that you can achieve it you hold a big party to pat yourself on the back and give yourself a huge increase!

  • CHILD OF GOD - 2010-02-25 08:49

    Are we again going to take this and not do something? Pray for wisdom.

  • JEAN - 2010-02-25 08:51

    What a bunch of palookas!

  • Huh?? - 2010-02-25 08:52

    I am in the wrong job... Around here we are told to do more with less... and they have to do less with more (and they don't even get that right)!!! Wonder how much longer SA citizens are going to put up with this...?

  • Kabelo - 2010-02-25 09:00

    The police are overworked and underpaid. People should realise that apartheid caused a lot if poverty with our people hence the high crime situation in this country. To blame Cde Cele for making realistic targets is not going to help achieving anything. You people who continue blaming crime forget what crimes were committed against us. Cde Cele should be praised for the good works he and our government is doing not critisezed.

  • dalet - 2010-02-25 09:08

    And harrassing the sex workers and raping them? Instead of fighting REAL crime. PATHETIC!

  • eh - 2010-02-25 09:09

    At the end of the day lowering the standards and getting more money will also be pointless, because the failure of the police is not about being underfunded or the standard being to high. It is about good management and effective use of resources and when someone thinks that having a party for the police will improve morale, it gives you some insight into how pathetic the management is. Lowering the standards is a similar simplistic solution like Escom passing on the cost of electricity to consumers without looking at their internal effectiveness first.

  • Andrew - 2010-02-25 09:11

    More for less. Ah yes I'd like soem of this! Its evident that these people cannot think. This philosphy is the road to ruination. Cras.

  • Sambok - 2010-02-25 09:11

    Well somebody has to pay for the hotel bills...

  • James - 2010-02-25 09:11

    I'm an ex-cop and left because of ill-dicipline and corruption inside the SERVICE.The red tape for the above-mentioned is so much that nothing gets ever done about this. There are a few cops left that are trying to make a difference but they are to little.Where can a police chief be appointed without any experience of policing of any nature,only in SA. Crime will rule this country if they don't catch a wake-up call.

  • market watcher - 2010-02-25 09:18

    In setting targets one must be realistic. Perhaps we should give SAPS the benefit of the doubt this time around. Allow them to take ownership for these targets. Ownership means commitment, motivation and ability to deliver. Perhaps they will deliver.

  • Citizen - 2010-02-25 09:18

    During an armed house robbery which took place on Monday night in our town, one of the four perpetrators said to the victim "Sorry, Mama, we are just doing our job" - can we have Kabelo's comments on that? At the same time a family in Alberton also had an armed robbery during which a 16 year old boy was shot in the back at point blank range and a woman shot in the chest. Neither of these incidents made the news. Over to you Kabelo, let's have your justification.

  • molefeP - 2010-02-25 09:19

    @Kabelo, Let me ask you something brother? Do you go out and steal for a living? Are you happy to be robbed, have your wife raped or your children murdered? Well, if you answered no to any of the above why would you excuse anybody for those crimes? Yes, appartheid was terrible! It was also 16 years ago! To still use apartheid as an excuse is getting a bit lame dont you think? It is time for ordinary South African like me and You to start doing something about crime! That is the only way that we will beat this culture of lawlesness that prevails today! I firmly believe that you are only free to complain once you yourself gets involved and you do something to improve the situation!

  • @Kabelo - 2010-02-25 09:23

    Yes Kabelo, I hope you believe yourself, nobody else do. Wonder what caused the poverty in the rest of the world. Poverty has never been the real motive for violent crime. Tell me, why are people in India not murder in their own homes for a cell phone. There is aslo poverty there. Must be an Africa thing.

  • KyleAssassin - 2010-02-25 09:23


    OMG, what an idiot, just admit that your goverment is useless, just like your comments on the forums.
    Always blame something else, never take responsibility yourself. You amaze me, do you actually have chance to take a breath of air with all the cr@p that comes out of your mouth?
    Don't use the past to try and say that is why "you" people do crime, "you" people are babaric in your actions. Did we make you barbaric too, I don't think so.

    "People" like you make me sick.

  • brownsuit - 2010-02-25 09:23

    I am so sick of these idiots running my country into the ground...

  • Al the Pal - 2010-02-25 09:24


    Pretty obvious that somebody would put the needle back on that old, scratchy piece of vinyl.
    The "good works" should finally reach the masses and not being withheld from them. That was and is simply Goverments' task. Don't worry about the productive part of the population. We will be fine, even doing much better without the public sectors' "assitance".
    Just don't ask us to participate through income taxes etc. to fund this bottomless and competenceless barrel.
    The ANC has really prooven to be a successful liberation movement. They should better move aside when it comes to running an economy.

  • CitizenX - 2010-02-25 09:26

    @Kabelo, so what you are saying is that due to the injustices of the past we must simply accept crime today? 16 years on and you are another one who will for another 100 years blame apartheid for every failure? Poverty today has far less to do with the past but rather the new government that is doing very little other than to enrich the chosen few. You need to wake up to reality!

  • Kabelo @molefeP and Citizen - 2010-02-25 09:26

    People are very easy to forget, even you my brother molefeP since your brother was not attacked by security police and dogs in sharpeville. People are easy to forget what we went through under the opressor hence this situation of pay back. To blam ecde Cele is not making this problem better.

  • Wtfaw - 2010-02-25 09:26

    Sorry James you are too late CRIME ALREADY RULES THIS COUNTRY and the ANC and police are completely inept at curtailing this scourge.Oh and all the sacastic comments on this site are completely wasted on Cele and his ilk!

  • johan - 2010-02-25 09:27

    That's right Kabelo, blame it all on apartheid - as usual. When are YOU people going to learn the word : responsibility???

  • @CitizanX - 2010-02-25 09:27

    19 years in the SAPS and 10 years in one rank and no prospect of any promotion because I am seen as a “Apartheid Police Officer” (RIOT POLICE & HIGH RISK UNIT and now FRC) and white and a male = Salary R 14 948.75 Gross - Nett Salary R 8269. (MORE MONEY!!!!!) Pell clearly you don’t know what you are talking about. Come and work for a week with me, to experience first hand the, incompetence of my superiors and the people I have to work with. There are still a hand full of us that are trying our very best to do our jobs at the best of our capabilities.
    1. WHITE
    2. MALE
    3. AGE

  • Why not? - 2010-02-25 09:28

    @Kabelo...apartheid causes your people to rape their daughters and murder their parents... bloody imperialists did it again! Look on the bright side, a lot of the criminals are already in the police stations, we only need to close the doors. In uniform they hijack, beat up citizens, bribe them, murder them, sell weapons that were legally handed in, use police vehicles as taxis... just close the door and you might make the 4% target already.

  • Vaughn - 2010-02-25 09:32

    Well how the heck else do you expect people to reach the target, surely do don't halucinate about people actually working toward targets, this has long been the way in Emergency Medical Services in Port Elizabeth, where you have staff write entry exams to a course and then send those who fail the entry exam on the course since "they have been trying longer" - hence we can deduce that only once you have proved yourself incompetent, does one meet the standard....

  • Jan Bantjies - 2010-02-25 09:32

    This is nothing new, during the second elections the ANC in KZN saw that the number of voters was pathetically low so the simply announced reduced numbers of registered voters to show a higher voting figure. Does this still surprise anyone anymore?

  • Carmen - 2010-02-25 09:34

    Why does everyone focus on the BAD that the SAPS is doing??? You will never see comments on the good that they do or why don't you give suggestions on how to assist with the crime problems....STOP CRITICISING...we will never build a nation on criticism. DA - focus on something else and not on the party held for SAPS in Bloemfontein, i am sure you have better things to do with your time. The SAPS deserve much more than a party for the type of work they do...but thanks to those that thought of them, although it is just something small.

  • Webb - 2010-02-25 09:34

    Same as education, health, competency in the armed forces etc etc - the ANC government thourgh shere incompetence and arrogance, can't maintain standards so they just lower them to meet their failing efforts - typical and so sad, These are the same people berating the world for Africa Pessimism, yet they continue to ensure that africa continues it's downhill spiral. African needs raised stanadards not lowered to achieve success.

  • @Kabelo - 2010-02-25 09:34

    Kabelo, seriously now, wake up! Stop living in the wrongs of the past and concentrate on getting things right for the future. What’s been done can’t be reversed. You, like everyone else, are in control of you’re own future and blaming the current crimes and lawlessness on the whites from 20 years ago wont make current things better! Police is overworked and underpaid, but who's in charge now? Only they can change it and make sure the police's lives improve.

  • draadsitter - 2010-02-25 09:35

    If at first you don't succeed:
    1 - Lower your standards
    2 - Redefine success

  • john - 2010-02-25 09:37

    Once again - unbelievable!!!!
    I feel so helpless when i read these stories
    We cant just sit back and bitch on forums like these - what can we start doing to fight total imeptitude from goverment officials?????
    We should stand up fight for what we believe in. Maybe we should aslo start throwing stones and burning things - chances are high you wont be arrested!!!

  • Flos - 2010-02-25 09:37

    Kabelo, you are joking right. You can't seriously think that if you give someone more money they should perform less? 20 years ago the specialized units of the SAPS were so elite UK and the States use to send their detectives to learn from us. Under the current government's leadership we have had a corrupt Police Commissioner who closed down the specialized units, and now we have one who sets lower targets in a country infected by crime. Brilliant.

    Bring back the death penalty and castrate rapist. See how quickly those performance targets increase, o and of course appoint a competent, qualified Police Commissioner.

  • AagNee - 2010-02-25 09:38

    Kabelo, just read todays news, you do not even need to look at yesterday's. "Brakpan cops beat 'drunk' man". I teach my kids to regard to police as state protected criminals.

  • Paul1 - 2010-02-25 09:39

    Kabelo your hatred is making you blind

  • Jackson - 2010-02-25 09:41

    The Police department? Who are they? I do not trust them. My blood runs cold when I see them. They treat ordinary citizens like criminals (i.e. the woman who was chased to her mother-in-law's house after going round their unmarked vehicle at a green robot, because they remained stationary. They assaulted her, they handcuffed her, they interrogated her. For what? She did not do anything wrong!) This is a banana republic. Where is the leadership? Where is the discipline? Billions of rand is being stolen and used for private business, entertainment, travelling and stashed away into private bank accounts. The police department is no different. We are not a country going forward, we are going backwards.

  • Paul - 2010-02-25 09:43

    Wake up comrades and citizens. Effective policing, as most gov departments, HAS COLLAPSED. Live with it, or go live somewhere else.

  • Rick - 2010-02-25 09:45

    Lowering targets because you can't reach them is a brilliant solution - why don't we lower the targets to negative values - that way, as crime worsens, our police can be seen to be doing really well! We are fast heading that way in education - and just look at the masses of intelligent, sentient, employable human beings we are churning out there...Viva La Revolution - Viva ANC!

  • JA - 2010-02-25 09:45


  • @KABELO - 2010-02-25 09:54

    Why not admit that you are a supporter of a winning crime suporting government. I've been subjected to a red ant army and policemen with great big guns, shields battons, helmets to stop about 100 whites celebrating a birthday at a venue in a commercial centre at 4 ways. These brave men of about 50 are capable of hitting a soft target yet crime is rife and cannot be stopped. I wonder why?

  • Seriously Concerned - 2010-02-25 09:54

    I have always been positive about our country, but there are now a few very serious concerns poking their evil heads. This is the first time in a long time that I am really worried about the future of SA. It is slowly but surely turning into the wild west, where there is no order or control. We continue to pay some of the highest taxes, of which we receive absolutely nothing for. This is just such a frustrating situation.

  • Here we go again - 2010-02-25 09:55

    Two things:
    (1) The frog in boiling water analogy: put a frog in boiling water, and he jumps out, but put him in cold water and slowly heat it, and you'll be able to boil him to death. Our water is slowly being heated up by various factors, and attitudes like that of Kabelo will unfortunately not save your hide - we all boil together. Catch a wake-up and smell the coffee!!!
    (2) Why should it be any different? All this was pre-ordained - have a close look the book of Revelations. I never read that things would become better as time went on - rather things will start getting totally out of hand. Grin, and bear it - we are giving power to the ruler of this world by all the wrongs we do, and then we complain ... rather we get our house in order ... use it, don't use it, whatever.

  • @Kabelo - 2010-02-25 09:56

    Ai Kabelo, the blame game... go read the other column about how you get what you work for. Btw, it is unconstitutional to stereotype "you guys" as murderers, rapists and thieves as you have done. I support all people that works there way up the ladders, doesn't matter how black or yellow they are... If they worked for what they get it makes me proud, and in many cases moreso with blacks than whites since they have overcome maybe a few more obstacles in their life. "molefeP" for e.g. sounds like somebody I would work next to, somebody that will help this country become what it can be, not somebody that makes excuses to justify what it is.

  • Porra - 2010-02-25 09:56

    Kabelo like MolefeP sais appartheid has been gone for 16 years and youve been in charge of the country , lowering the the targets on every thing from education to crime . Even in the old years the SAP was paid a sh-- salary but they did the job . So when you are affected by crime and no joy from the cops is forthcoming because by that time all crimes will be considerd not very important remember how you feel now .

  • Rasta - 2010-02-25 09:57

    Kabelo Huh! Whilst I admire the mandate given by Cele on the way to handle certain aspects of crime, it doesn't warrant reducing targets in those areas. To blame aparthied all the times is ludicrous. The Street Committee approach to fighting crime, which is practiced in all former townships or rural areas deems that you are not really affected by crime to that extent if you were in an urban area.

    As for the police being overworked - well - I have worked at a lot of the stations - Eastern Cape - Gauteng, maybe over drunk. I appreciate all the facets where they have thier hassles and it is an unrewarding job - but if you applied for it - ten just do it!