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We'll win this war - Cele

2011-06-27 18:40

Johannesburg - Police are fighting a war they did not declare, national police chief General Bheki Cele said at the funeral of police reservist Lietenant Colonel Mark Ishlove, in Johannesburg, on Monday.

"We shall win this war. We shall not allow the country to be ruled by criminals," he told mourners during the service at the Mosaiek Church in Fairland.

Criminals were not armed with broomsticks and feather dusters. If someone was going to die, it should not be the police officer, he said.

"If that is a policy of shoot to kill, let it be. Anybody who kills a member of the police is inviting trouble and courting sleepless nights."

Gauteng police chief Lieutenant General Mzwandile Petros said he was always saddened when he heard news that another "soldier was down".

What made Ishlove so special was that he led from the front, he said.

"The loss of this life is going to leave us a bit stronger than we were."

The night Ishlove arrived at the crime scene, he took command and lost his life in the process.

"We are very proud of him," Petros said.

Ishlove's daughters Marcia and Juliette told the congregation of their father's love for and dedication to "his other family", the police.

Fellow reservist Constable Cliff Bond described Ishlove as his father figure and said he was dedicated to serving his country.

"His blood was truly blue," Bond said.

Ishlove was buried at the West Park cemetery in Johannesburg on Friday afternoon.

Ishlove, 60, died in a shootout between the police and a five-man gang near a primary school in Northcliff on June 15. Two of the gunmen also died.

Police were chasing the gang's white Mercedes-Benz when it crashed. The five men inside jumped out and ran away.

One of them dropped his pistol and was arrested near the accident scene.

Another was arrested further down the road and a third was caught in the school grounds.

Ishlove chased one of the other men to a house where a shootout ensued in which he and the gunman died.

The fifth man tried to hide in a Wendy house. He shot himself in the head and died on the way to hospital.

Comments
  • Treborani - 2011-06-27 18:48

    You can't believe a word that falls from this idiot's mouth. Cele, you couldn't find your own ass in the dark with both hands !

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 19:39

      His name suits him "Bekkie"!!!! (bheki)

      Simpiwe Cele - 2011-06-27 19:55

      BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY.....!!! COME ON THAT WOULD BE A VERY POSITIVE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. And before my academic friends start telling us it aint a deterrent , just look at crime stats where the death penalty is still enforced , crime rates are very low !! I say eradicate the cowardly scum !!

      marco - 2011-06-27 20:13

      And there goes the vitriol,cruel and bitter criticism of the ANC government or in this instance the national police chief General Bheki Cele once again by the few hundred bitter socalled realist you'll find on News24,most likely living as expats in a foreign country somewhere.The conservative hate machine you have here commenting is both insane in its volume and cluster**** in its stridency to say the least.What was it:"high unemployment,murder,rape,HIV Aids,corruption,fraud etc".They would rather see the country go down in flames than contribute whatever they can to make it a better place.

  • Marcell - 2011-06-27 18:52

    The criminals are already running the country. Take you as an example.

  • Schalk - 2011-06-27 19:00

    Cele: "We shall win this war. We shall not allow the country to be ruled by criminals." Well, Mr Cele, you know that party that has just admitted to be full of corruption and fraud? That party that has been "ruling" us for 17 years? You have my full blessing to go and arrest the whole bunch. After that you will might very well get the Nobel prize for curing cANCer by surgically removing the Malemanoma.

      bob - 2011-06-28 10:25

      shoot to kill!

  • BakkieB - 2011-06-27 19:29

    We have a fool as a "Chief" of Politics, sorry police

  • gizzy - 2011-06-27 19:41

    YAWN!!!!!!!! Start dealing with the criminals at the top i.e. in cabinet and parliament. Only then will we start taking notice of your repeated rumblings.

  • PMG - 2011-06-27 19:43

    But uber general Cele - you are the biggest criminal of them all.

  • Monica - 2011-06-27 20:01

    You will not win the war after you have un-aremed most of the white citizens in this country and the weapons were sold from the police stations to criminals. You employ too many criminals in the police force of South Africa.

  • james4usa - 2011-06-27 20:01

    Cele what honest people say about you defines your character.

  • jock - 2011-06-27 20:03

    You have no chance of winning this war with the present situation.Your police force is under trained.under staffed,under motivated,under paid and under the command of a fool.

  • marco - 2011-06-27 20:12

    And there goes the vitriol,cruel and bitter criticism of the ANC government or in this instance the national police chief General Bheki Cele once again by the few hundred bitter socalled realist you'll find on News24,most likely living as expats in a foreign country somewhere.The conservative hate machine you have here commenting is both insane in its volume and cluster**** in its stridency to say the least.What was it:"high unemployment,murder,rape,HIV Aids,corruption,fraud etc".They would rather see the country go down in flames than contribute whatever they can to make it a better place.

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 20:24

      yeah, yeah, yeah Marco. Keep your ostrich like posture but be careful you don't get shafted while that head is stuck in the sand!!!!

      marco - 2011-06-27 20:32

      @gizzy And there goes the vitriol,cruel and bitter criticism of the ANC government or in this instance the national police chief General Bheki Cele once again by the few hundred bitter socalled realist you'll find on News24,most likely living as expats in a foreign country somewhere.The conservative hate machine you have here commenting is both insane in its volume and cluster**** in its stridency to say the least.What was it:"high unemployment,murder,rape,HIV Aids,corruption,fraud etc".They would rather see the country go down in flames than contribute whatever they can to make it a better place.

      Larro - 2011-06-27 22:26

      eeerrrr - didn't you just say that...?

  • MarcusMagnus - 2011-06-27 20:32

    But hey ant you part of the problem cele

  • Breinkrag - 2011-06-27 22:21

    Wonder if Petros is saddened about another good soldier sitting at home after he has done a good job. Jannie Odendaal?

  • The Question - 2011-06-28 00:44

    You should never answer a call to duty as a police officer with the intent to kill. This is akin to premeditated murder. The use of lethal force in the line of duty should only ever be a last resort and even this is usually a bad option to use.

  • Zupta - 2011-06-28 02:18

    Not with u at the Helm. Do the honourable thing and step down. We need competence in the Force sadly it's lacking at the very top.

  • anthro45@24.com - 2011-06-28 08:45

    If someone is going to die, it should be you, Cele. You are not a police officer. You are one of the criminals that should be taken out.

  • Stanley Black - 2011-06-28 09:16

    As a South African this is an issue that I feel is not given the attention it should. It need everyday South Africans to formulate opinions on it and for those opinions to be debated and commented on as a society. www.WeCanDoBetter.co.za is somewhere you can do all that, go check it our submitting and commenting is easy and requires no registration.

  • Sarie Maree - 2011-06-28 10:27

    “We cannot live in a country where the looters of yester-years assume they have undergone a Pauline conversion because they are in opposition and oppose the Government of the day.”

  • Oupa Willem - 2011-06-29 17:01

    Just hope we don't have a Libyan-type situation here to achieve the police goal!

  • Oupa Willem - 2011-06-29 17:02

    Just hope we don't have a Libyan-type situation here to achieve the police goal!

  • Jakob - 2011-06-29 17:06

    "His blood was truly blue," Bond said. - does that then mean he was a smurf??

      joe joe - 2011-07-08 13:16

      no... he was a bull's supporter

  • Sharon Smith - 2011-07-01 23:14

    @Schalk: Agree with you. But please Cele, start by putting your officers on a strict dieet. To often i see them stuffing their faces sitting alongside the road or a petrol station doing F**kol, while our people are getting murdered, raped, and hi-jacked. Wonder how much you got paid for not taking out the criminals starting from the top..Can you really blame anyone off us not trusting in you. Do you even know how to write a proper avadavat, ofcourse no, you never had to work your way up, just another brother placed in a possition he's not qualified for...Feel sorry for the officers that really do their work in protecting communities, but they few and most of them left the force years ago...

  • joe joe - 2011-07-08 13:11

    WHEN????????

  • Noname - 2011-08-17 06:44

    We shall win this war. We shall not allow the country to be ruled by criminals, Are you sure what you talking about Mr. Cele?

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