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Porn doesn't cause rape, Icasa says

2012-03-08 22:37

Johannesburg - There is no direct causal relationship between pornography and violent sexual crimes against women, the Independent Communications Authority of SA (Icasa) said on Thursday.

"However, consumption of pornography may contribute to the incidence of rape," Icasa spokesperson Paseka Maleka said in a statement.

Pornography made it more likely that those who were already inclined to rape might feel validated to actually commit a rape.

"Icasa... regards the consumption of pornography as one contributing factor, among others, to the normalisation of violence against women in South Africa."

The Icasa statement was issued in explanation of its recent refusal to grant authorisation for three pornographic channels on Top TV.

On Digital Media's request for the channels was refused by Icasa on January 20.

Another reason was because Top TV had not taken seriously Icasa's public consultation process, said Paseka.

"[They] failed to participate in the public hearing in order to expand on its application and take questions from Icasa and the public or to rebut stakeholder views opposed to its application."

On Digital Media had also misconstrued the objections to its application as being on moral or religious grounds rather than on constitutional and legal grounds, he said.

Paseka said Icasa saw no reason to expand access to pornography.

Comments
  • Mark - 2012-03-08 23:00

    Not everyone who uses porn will become a rapist or like Ted Bundy, a serial killer. However by using porn you enabler rape. Many porn actors nd actresses have testified to being rapedon set and forced to perform acts that they never agreed to. Likewise the brutality and violence against women in the industry is horrendeous. For more info on the exposing the porn industry for what it really is login to www.shelleylubben.com or read Craig Gross' book 'Dirty Little Secret'.

      Johan - 2012-03-09 00:55

      Not everyone who uses religion will become a mass murderer, like Bin Laden or Joseph Kony. However by using religion you enable rape, hatred and murder. Many church goers have testified to being raped by pastors and forced to perform acts that they never agreed to. Bla, bla, bla.... I am so sick and tired of selfish religious freaks imposing their twisted "morals" on others.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 05:48

      @Johan Brilliant reply.

      eon.malherbe - 2012-03-09 06:35

      @Johan - Agreed! Thanks!

      Mattewis - 2012-03-09 07:48

      @Johan How you relate faith to murder and rape is beyond me! Are "religious freaks" worse than non-religious freaks, and how do the morals of the two differ? Also, what is religion? As far as I'm concerned, even atheism is religion, and evolution still more so! One commonality amongst ALL serial killers & rapists if you read the literature, is that pornography plays an important role. I've not seen any religion as a global common denominator! Screwdrivers, hammers & steak knives are often used as murder weapons, but we need them for their primary function! Why help fill the toolbox of the murderer/rapist with utensils that have no primary use, and pose a risk to our children (future)? At least ICASA can see this, for which I commend them!

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 08:09

      Perhaps all the religious type giving the thumbs down hide a dirty little secret - In the US (where research is done) the regions where there is the highest number of christians consume the most online porn. http://furiouspurpose.me/the-religious-do-love-their-porn/ US again. The more religious the state, the higher the rates of teen pregnancy. http://www.google.co.za/search?q=bible+belt+teenage+pregnancies&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a Pakistan, a Muslim country, is the world's leader in online searches for pornographic material Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12/data-shows-pakistan-googling-pornographic-material/#ixzz1k9Yg0znd

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 08:14

      @Mattewis evolution will never be a Religion. You don't pray to the God of evolution , you open books and learn about the scientific principle behind it. Just because you need to pray and have faith in the wholy Geebers doesn't mean everyone needs to pray to something. Learning about nature, the universe and technology is more than enough to keep most free thinkers happy. A rapist tool is in his pants he lives with it everyday , he already has access to porn through other media , magazines , Internet or even on his phone. He dreams about angry sex and violence and will not watch the soft porn on a TV channel he's way passed that. Porn is for adults experimenting in sex , usually couples or single males you don't really fit in anywhere and need a release and without it is more likely to "get it" somewhere else. And by get it I mean rape or pay for it. By the way do you know the God you pray too ? Damn the man.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-09 08:45

      " I've not seen any religion as a global common denominator! " ha ha ha Really. Not unless you count oppression, murder and submission on the scale of millions and billions, otherwise religion is fine.

      Merven - 2012-03-09 08:48

      'How you relate faith to murder and rape is beyond me' It is in the bible: Numbers 31: 7-18: They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. Deuteronomy 20: 10-14: When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

      leonard.w.gray - 2012-03-09 09:08

      How does this Johan clown equate religion with rape???? Just another atheist snorting his mouth off!

      Johan - 2012-03-09 09:34

      @leonard, I thought it was common knowledge the disastrous effects religion has on society: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Pastor-overpowers-girl-then-rapes-her-20111215 http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Pastor-arrested-for-raping-girl-14-20120304 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war Need I go on?

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:28

      @leonard.w.gray I think you have just been pwned!

      Karmah - 2012-03-09 10:36

      @johan Well said man. Well said

      Johannes - 2012-09-03 10:01

      zaatheist - just had a look at the links you gave. What fun that was to read on a borning Monday! :) Thanks. Also, I do find it interesting that when things are made illegal or are prohibited, that is when we humans want to try it out or bend the rules. It seems we have a natural built in instinct that has a bit of a thrill every time we do something people tell us it's bad or wrong. Makes you think..

  • Sean - 2012-03-08 23:22

    I agree for once !

  • The-madKing - 2012-03-09 00:24

    porn is just porn .. does an action movie make u eat cereal in the morning?? no

  • Johan - 2012-03-09 00:35

    My ADSL modem has an "ICASA approved" sticker on it. And when connected to the internet it has unlimited access to porn. So porn is OK on computers, but not on TVs. Why?!? ICASA, you are not making any f***ing sense. I can only assume that whoever made this decision must be some brain dead religious nutcase.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 05:50

      They are a bunch of government appointed cadres and bureaucrats who know nothing about social issues. Our rights and liberties are being questioned and imposed upon by theists who want their superstitions codified in public policy. And then they wonder why we feel the need to confront, expose and mock them.

      Mattewis - 2012-03-09 07:54

      I rest my case! Whatever you are, you ain't no rocket scientist - that's for sure!

      Hendrik - 2012-03-09 08:06

      You guys are so predictable and boring *yawn*. If its not a racial thing, it is a religious one. What is wrong with you guys??? If you have issues, face them - don't drag them out into the public and try to make something out of it - build a bridge, and get over it. You can mock, insult, discredit "theists" all you want - simply by the name, an "atheist" is also a "theist" ... you also FIRMLY believe - simply not the same as others. So how's that for an intro to a mock?

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:30

      Ag Hendrik Just how do your thought processes work. Please explain where you perceive racism in the comment string. Man, you really have a persecution complex.

  • Stephen - 2012-03-09 01:31

    So Icasa is saying that it's ok to make (i.e. Film) pornography, but it's not ok to watch ("consume") it?

      Lloyd - 2012-03-09 07:39

      @ Peter So, what's your point? What does a country's economic standing have to do with porn consumption? Or did you just want to sound smart?

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:32

      @Lloyd "So, what's your point? What does a country's economic standing have to do with porn consumption"? Who mentioned the country's economic standing. Or did you use the big words to sound smart?

  • Kolobe - 2012-03-09 05:11

    at this rate having a partner you sleep with "may contribute to the incidence of rape"

      Oistar - 2012-03-09 11:29

      One of the firts sensible and witty comments I have seen from you. Not bad ... actually, worth a thumbs up

  • Sidney Gilroy - 2012-03-09 06:08

    I love how governments,spearheaded by religious belief and pressure - tries to manage and contain Human Nature. Which is just a couple degrees off that of the common dog. You cannot vilify basic needs. Sex is a basic need.

      Marion - 2012-03-09 09:47

      @Sidney Gilroy - watching others have sex is not a basic need!! It's the lazy man's way of making love.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:33

      Not is you are watching it with two other partners it isn't.

      Marion - 2012-03-09 10:46

      @zaatheist - I don't care if it is an entire orgy. It is still the lazy man's (make that person's) way of making love. You can't arouse your partners sufficiently to get him/her/them to engage with you in a totally uninhibited fashion so you rely on others to do it for you.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 15:23

      @Marion Geez. I sense a lot of anger there. Speak for yourself. There are literally billions of different views on sex on the planet, one for every adult and all different. Seems to me you want everyone to be regimented into you creepy world view of what you consider consenting adults should do. So you want this banned and that controlled and everyone must conform to your fascist viewpoints. Sorry, you are obviously a religious freak.

  • raegan.mcreed - 2012-03-09 06:13

    ''once APORN a time''

  • carpejugulim - 2012-03-09 06:35

    Rape, especially here is SA, is caused by a total lack of respect for someone else's life, the knowledge that there is a minimal possibility of being caught and minimal sentencing . It is caused by a sense of entitlement, I demand you will not give therefore I shall take. It is caused by the lack of any real and memorable effort at punishment or rehabilitation, how many times has one read about a newly released rapist raping again on release from prison.

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 07:45

      This is just a stupid excuse for the saved to force there point of view. Keep religion at home and in churches and leave the rest of society to their supposed "Free Will". If God disapproves of any cities , he'll just destroy them. I don't go into Church communities asking them how could they follow a God that kills babies , allows stoning of [gays , non-believers , lyres , witches , atheists and even rape survivors ] condones selling of daughter as a sex slave , is sexist to the extreme , demanded humans and animal sacrifices etc. As soon as they start meddling with society and the scientific community alarm bells should be ringing. Damn the man.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 08:07

      Exactly!

  • kasamkelo - 2012-03-09 06:42

    no more porn,we have enough already.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 08:06

      Who is we. In the US (where research is done) the regions where there is the highest number of christians consume the most online porn. http://furiouspurpose.me/the-religious-do-love-their-porn/ US again. The more religious the state, the higher the rates of teen pregnancy. http://www.google.co.za/search?q=bible+belt+teenage+pregnancies&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a Maybe you need a rethink.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-03-09 09:09

      zaatheist - LOL..... like they didn't know. Best place to pick up girls isn't a bar or club, its at a religious institution ! 'safe' environment , immediate categorisation as 'good' and approaching is easy . Add to that suppressed sexual expression, no to condoms , 2000yr old advice on sexual relationships and you have a teen pregnancy farm .

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:34

      @allcoveredinNinjas Nice!

  • ronheidtmann - 2012-03-09 06:57

    I'm amazed that the religious folk haven't started trolling this forum yet!

      Themba - 2012-03-09 07:08

      Let me start then. In Gal. 5:22, one of the fruits of the spirit is self-restraint/discipline. Discipline is not about forcefully denying someone access to something, but for a person to consciously abstain from certain activities. I will not say porn is right, neither will I say don't allow porn to be aired, but all I will say is, if people claim to be Christian, they should follow the scriptures try to understand what their religion is all about and try to follow it to the letter, without bringing up excuses. I am the captain of my own life, and this has nothing to do with what anyone puts out there for me to consume.

      Themba - 2012-03-09 07:09

      Sorry, I wrote fruits, in actual sense it is fruit, as in singular....

      Martin - 2012-03-09 07:12

      i abstain from xtianity,

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 07:47

      @Martin me too ..

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 08:01

      @Thema Nice to see a reasonable comment from somebody who says he follows Christianity which support real freedom.

  • raegan.mcreed - 2012-03-09 07:12

    porn encourages certain individuals to rape goats, dogs, chickens and the most famous 1,''to rape babies to cure themselves from AIDS''....in most cases these perpetrators were told by their ancestors to do it...

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 08:04

      Citation urgently required or you made it up.

      Karmah - 2012-03-09 10:39

      Porn does now encourage certain individuals to rape babies to cure AIDS. Their Culture and tribal doctors do.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 15:24

      Yep. Thought so. He just made it up.

  • robert.cerff - 2012-03-09 07:19

    Fact: Those who have a gun are more likely to shoot someone than those without. But simply having a firearm doesn't make you a murderer any more so than having a penis will make you a rapist.

  • SarelJBotha - 2012-03-09 07:30

    The people in Icasa who said this has an opinion that will not help the current situation in RSA.

  • Ronald Charles James - 2012-03-09 07:32

    Interesting fact: it has been researched that almost all serial killers are addicted to porn.

      Lloyd - 2012-03-09 07:40

      Show us the proof and studies for this "fact" or STFU!

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 08:01

      Citation urgently required or you made it up.

      Felix - 2012-03-09 08:48

      "Most quotes and claims of research on the internet are fake" - Abraham Lincoln.

      Johan - 2012-03-09 09:06

      LOL @Felix. Did you know that 79.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot? Thank God I am an Atheist.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-09 09:33

      @felix are you talking about Abraham Lincoln 16th President of the United States who died April 15, 1865 (aged 56). what internet was he talking about. but anyway we live in a nanny state where the views of a small group of people is forced upon every one. if you dont want 2 see porn dont subscribe.

      Teboho Mphaloane - 2012-03-09 09:34

      I thought they were addicted to killing people!

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:36

      @Christian J Denyschen The irony, it burns.

      Felix - 2012-03-09 12:57

      @Christian, U mad bro?

      Kelly Ann Boulter - 2012-03-09 14:32

      Interesting fact: it has been researched that almost all serial killers have three names ... Ronald Charles James!! Killed anyone lately?? Ps I am addicted to porn and I have never killed anyone!! Serial killers kill because they are sick and they need to be hospitalized!! Generalization!!

      Kelly Ann Boulter - 2012-03-09 14:35

      Interesting fact: it has been researched that almost all serial killers have three names ... Ronald Charles James!! Killed anyone lately?? Ps I am addicted to porn and I have never killed anyone!! Serial killers kill because they are sick and they need to be hospitalized!! Generalization!!

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 15:25

      Another dishonest Xian posting stuff he just made up.

  • jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 07:37

    Religion needs to be left at home with all the other skeletons in the closet. Damn the man.

  • Bernard - 2012-03-09 07:41

    You right... Porn IS rape, think about the actors/models, how many are abducted & forced into this carnal trade against their will... sounds like Rape to me! Those who are involved by their own "free will", ask them how they really feel about it if they could be promised release from their domineering violent boss , and see what they say!!! It is also a catalyst to other forms of rape. Anything that stimulates carnal desires outside the bounds of marriage is improper in any event. Those who fool themselves by saying "You can look at the menu as long as you eat at home" are liars, they will always think about the menu whilst eating at home. Even when Teazers came out with Teazhers, their advert played on the point of allowing your lady to go to teazhers and associating it with "now you don't have to feel guilty"... THEY EVEN KNOW as do the partakers that their is guilt, and if there is guilt, one is acting against a value system they know is right. Justify all you want, porn should be banned again!

      Nicholas - 2012-03-09 08:02

      they look like they enjoy it on the videos

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 08:18

      @Bernard wow you knowledge of the porn industry is so extensive , how long did you work in the trade ? And what's your stage name ? Super Jerk... Damn the man.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:39

      @jody.beggs You are right. Bernard seems to be an absolute expert on porn. "Anything that stimulates carnal desires outside the bounds of marriage is improper in any event". Yep, Bernard gives a perfect example of how too much religion addles brains and poisons everything.

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-09 09:40

    porn is satanist behavior,this world is cursed because of the behavior people,why we have natural disaster like tsunami ,dangerous storms,earthquakes and aids ,wars,terrorist,because people walk naked,abortion,alcohol,adultry,gays and lesbian

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:42

      My goodness. The nutters are queuing up today. So Eric, who is causing these natural disasters? How does porn bring about natural disasters? Jeez, and when the Islamic zealots crashed plains into the World Trade Centre, were they watching porn? Wow! That's a new one on me. Man, too much religion surely addled brains.

  • Marion - 2012-03-09 09:44

    For those who are blaming this on religion, nowhere in this article does it say that religious zealots are the reason the application was turned down. I have watched a reasonable amount of porn in my life but no longer do so. One reason is that, in my opinion, when you've seen one you've seen them all. The other is that my husband and I enjoy a very satisfying sex life so we have no need to be voyeurs to others sexual antics. What I cannot understand is why people get so upset about this. Would you actually have paid extra for the extra channels? Can't you buy porn movies in adult bookshops to fulfill your fantasies if your imaginations / sexual partners cannot do it for you? I cannot believe you are watching it for the pathetic storyline.

      Johan - 2012-03-09 09:57

      Marion, it is not at all about porn. I have no interest in porn either. It is about some religious groups imposing their misinformed beliefs on others. That I have a problem with. Perhaps you missed the articles about religious groups calling for a boycott of TopTV, ultimately resulting in TopTV abandoning their plans and not defending their application.

      Marion - 2012-03-09 10:11

      @Johan - I probably missed that article because I avoid all religious fights on News24 these days because each group has its own opinions and never the twain shall meet. So my comment was directed totally at this article and the comments on it.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:44

      @Marion Johan is right. It just so happens that the sky daddy believers were very vociferous about the Top TV application and no doubt had a great deal of unwarranted influence. So now you have learned something today.

      Marion - 2012-03-09 12:03

      @zaatheist - Just as you expect your rights to watch pornography to be recognized, those of us who believe in God expect people like you to recognize our right to freedom of religion without attacking us at every opportunity with your 'superior' beliefs and insulting the God we believe in. Kindly do not insult the Christian God by calling him names when your anger is directed at those humans who do the things that infringe on your rights. Atheists are quick to insult the Christian God. Why don't you insult Muslims or Jews, to name just two, the way you insult Christians?

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 12:35

      @Marion You are confusing issues. I have absolutely no problem with freedom of religion and likewise I demand the right of freedom from religion. Personally I do not give a hoot about a controlled access porn channel. I am much more concerned about graphic and gratuitous violence on TV. What we are objecting to is the religious attempting to influence government policies and laws to have their creepy world view imposed upon the rest of society. As for you taking offence, Nobody has the right to not be offended. I am offended by the money grubbing religion, the peddling of superstition and the brainwashing of children. I am not calling for religion to be banned. I understand some people feel sad when they see a figure they were taught as a child to revere, whether Prophet or Pope, being subjected to rational examination, or mockery, or criminal investigation. But everyone has ideas they hold precious. Only you, the religious, demand to be protected from debate or scrutiny that might discomfort you. The fact you believe an invisible supernatural being approves of, or even commands, your behaviour doesn't mean it deserves more respect, or sensitive handling. It means it deserves less. If you base your behaviour on such a preposterous fantasy, you should expect to be checked by criticism and mockery. You need it.

      Marion - 2012-03-09 13:00

      @zaaethist - "If you base your behaviour on such a preposterous fantasy, you should expect to be checked by criticism and mockery. You need it." Whether I believe in a preposterous fantasy or not is not your problem because I do not make it your problem. My problem is that you find it necessary to refer to the Christian God as 'Sky Daddy'. Try saying that about Allah. Go on, instead of attacking me or other Christians again, and telling me how intelligent you are and how moronic I am, say an equally insulting thing about Allah. But make sure that you say it under your real identity so that you can actually see how tolerant Christians are of atheists continual insults of their intelligence and beliefs.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 15:17

      Hello Marion If you were more used to the internet and this board in particular you wil find that I regularly refer to Allah as a sky daddy. There is a much evidence for the Allah sky daddy as there is for yours. Zero. Zilch. Nana. Nix, B'all. Ok. Anytime someone says you can’t criticize their beliefs, it’s because their beliefs are too weak to withstand scrutiny. Nervous are you? OMG, I am now going to get killed.

  • reza.daniels1 - 2012-03-09 09:47

    Irrespective of beliefs or morals, porn quite simply is the exploitation, subjugation and belittling of a female. It is utter filth and should be criminalised. Just because they are not children does not make it acceptable even if they get paid for it. Any man who treats his partner like that is an animal that should be neutered.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 10:47

      "porn quite simply is the exploitation, subjugation and belittling of a female". Citation please or you made it up. "Any man who treats his partner like that is an animal that should be neutered". Like what? Having sex with the light on? Having sex for purposes other than procreation? Laughing and having sexual fun?

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-03-09 12:21

      I treated my partner like that and she loved it , but then again she is a bad girl ;).

      reza.daniels1 - 2012-03-09 12:27

      Citation? I need to quote from some source to voice my opinion? This "citation" quote from you is nothing other than a stuck record. How about human rights? Should I start there? As for your other attempt at stirring - like in a porn movie. Nobody is talking about normal things like having the lights on. I'm talking respecting your partner which includes your partner's body. Next time I would like to hear from you I'll pull the chain.

      Kelly Ann Boulter - 2012-03-09 12:30

      Possibly some women like to be treated that way! I see no harm in it! Maybe you are just a prude! If u don't like it ... Quick solution ... don't watch it!! But you clicked on the story so me thinks you were interested!! Lol

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 15:14

      Hello Reza. Got caught out did you. Making stuff up so now you bluster and retreat to the only known refuge for the embarrassed Xian - the ad hominem.

  • The-Azanian - 2012-03-09 10:31

    I bet if it does USA and Britain would have become rape capital of the world...

  • The-Azanian - 2012-03-09 10:32

    What about the pastors raping young gals...they are not watching porn at all.

      raegan.mcreed - 2012-03-09 11:39

      not girls, ''little boys''

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 12:38

      How about this? Pastor (and registered sex offender) John Albert Kleinpeter was arrested for surreptitiously shooting photos up women’s skirts in Lake Elsinore area Target stores. John Albert Kleinpeter, also known as John Andrews, is pastor of Generations Community Church in Lake Elsinore , California. The church website was pulled offline after this story hit the news. Kleinpeter was caught in the act by investigator responding to complaints. Kleinpeter stood behind the woman and held his cell phone under a piece of paper to conceal it. When she bent down he put the camera between her legs and snapped photos, documents show. http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2009/08/pastor-with-upskirt-fetish.html and this

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 12:38

      A Newark pastor allegedly forced two teenage girls to videotape him and one of his congregants engaged in sexual acts at a New Jersey motel, authorities said. Cops arrested Rev. Moises Cotto, pastor of the Congregation of Yahweh Templo El Candelero, at his East Orange home Monday night and charged him with ikdnapping, aggravated assault, attempted aggravated sexual assault and endangering the welfare of a minor. Authorities say the 55-year-old Cotto and his congregant, Brenda Pabon, met multiple times a week at the Benedict Motel on Routes 1&9 in Linden and forced the two girls to videotape. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Newark-Pastor-Accused-of-Forcing-Teen-Girls-Into-Sex-Acts-at-NJ-Hotel-94260949.html

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 12:42

      How many more to prove the point that religion is the cause of rape, porn and child child abuse - Pastor Phillip Joubert, stands accused of multiple counts of child molestation and related crimes. Including molestation charges stemming from the alleged rape of his own 13 –year-old daughter. She testified against her father in court earlier this week. http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2010/01/pastor-phillip-joubert-charged-again.html

      Johan - 2012-03-09 13:45

      I think I finally figured out the difference between "priests" and "pastors". Priests like young boys, while pastors like young girls.

  • Bibi - 2012-03-09 12:03

    Porn and revealing clothes do not cause rape. Nobody is a rapist because he watches porn and see short skirts on the streets. Rape has nothing to do with sex, but with violence, agression and power over the victim. Often rapists are victim of sexual abuse themselves or acting out psychotic fantasies.

  • Paulo - 2012-03-09 12:40

    i'd say that fair, sa Ccurretnly has no porn tv but a helleva lot of rapes.

  • Stephen - 2012-03-09 12:48

    "There is no direct causal relationship between pornography and violent sexual crimes against women." " However, consumption of pornography may contribute to the incidence of rape." I'm genuinely confused; how is this not a contradiction?

      Johan - 2012-03-09 14:02

      The whole Bible is one contradiction after another. That does not seem to bother some people either. What can I say.

      Omrisho - 2012-03-09 15:23

      yip Stephen, also wondered about that little gem :)

      zaatheist - 2012-03-09 15:28

      Religion does not encourage critical thinking.

  • Michelle Kirsten - 2012-03-09 20:23

    Sheesh! Rapists cause rape. Not religion or lack thereof. Not race, culture or economic status. Rape is an equal opportunities, non-racial, non religious issue, and the more we debate who/what is to blame, the more we DON'T debate what to do about rape. When you are bleeding, what do you do, look around or the cause?? FIRST you staunch the bleeding, don't you?

  • Michelle Kirsten - 2012-03-09 20:26

    Sheesh! Rapists cause rape. Not religion or lack thereof. Not race, culture or economic status. Rape is an equal opportunities, non-racial, non religious issue, and the more we debate who/what is to blame, the more we DON'T debate what to do about rape. When you are bleeding, what do you do, look around or the cause?? FIRST you staunch the bleeding, don't you?

  • lhfick - 2012-03-13 16:09

    Porn Good Or Bad? We are talking of a country, if you can call it one, where INFANTS get raped DAILY. Only a bullet can stop that.

  • bmaestro - 2012-05-08 11:43

    to a greater extent porn viewership may result in too many rape cases and women abuse however not all those who watch it intend to rape or commit sexual crimes of any nature

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