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Presidency: No comment on Bheki Cele

2012-06-07 08:34

Johannesburg - The presidency declined to comment on Thursday on reports that suspended national police commissioner General Bheki Cele has been fired.

"We have no comment on the matter at this stage," presidential spokesperson Mac Maharaj said.

Cele's spokesperson Vuyo Mkhize and his lawyer Vincent Maleka were not immediately available to confirm or deny the reports.

Informed

The Star reported that Cele was informed of his axing on Wednesday. He was told to vacate his office, and that his replacement was due to report for duty on July 1.

The Times reported that Cele was told about the decision on Tuesday.

Both reports were based on unnamed sources.

The Times source said Cele would fight the dismissal "tooth and nail".

"The general is not going to roll over and die. He is not that kind of man. He is strong. Stronger than this and [he] will fight all the way," the source said.

Mkhize told SABC radio news on Thursday that he saw Cele at lunch on Wednesday and said no decision had been conveyed to Cele.

He said that when similar things had previously come out in the media, they often turned out to be correct, so the reports might be accurate.

On Wednesday night Maharaj said President Jacob Zuma would make his decision on Cele known when he was "ready".

Inquiry

Last month, a board of inquiry appointed by Zuma found Cele unfit to hold office and recommended he be fired. He has been suspended since last year.

The inquiry followed a finding in July by Public Protector Thuli Madonsela that Cele's involvement in deals to acquire police office space was "improper, unlawful and amounted to maladministration".

Madonsela concluded that while Cele had not signed the final lease, he had initiated negotiations with property tycoon Roux Shabangu, and had seemed determined to secure the leases despite warnings against them.

The Democratic Alliance said Zuma must announce whether he has fired Cele.

"President Zuma must tell the police and the public whether he has indeed sacked Cele," said DA spokesperson on police, Dianne Kohler-Barnard.

"The ongoing uncertainty about the situation in the top brass of the [SA Police Service] undermines police morale, public confidence in the police and the fight against crime," she said.

Comments
  • Ryno - 2012-06-07 08:37

    can't these people admit defeat - how much more do they want to plunder from tax payers money? must they always go on some powertrip when they are in high-ranking positions? Moron

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-06-07 08:51

      Dear Mr Corrupted Useless president... We know you can't lead, it show clearly of all your past appointments. Do the honer thing and save the country from more embarrassment and step down! No wait, you have done nothing wrong..

      sabongam - 2012-06-07 09:41

      It wasn't that long ago when everyone was singing Cele's praises before this debacle/scandal.Where has all the love gone? South African - so fickle just like their sports fans...Springbok and Bafana fans. Quick example - right now everyone is calling for Gordon Igesund to be appointed as Bafana coach but wait until a few bad results...Heineke Meyer will also soon find out.

      Clive - 2012-06-07 10:04

      @sabongam: totally irrelevant in the Cele context.

      sabongam - 2012-06-07 10:46

      @ Clive K and why is it irrelevant?Now, with all due respect,I was just highlighting at how fickle South Africans are by comparing them with their very own sports fans in a not so serious kind of way. Care to make relevant comparisons? You're more than welcome to, since you seem to be the self-appointed authority on intricacies of what is and what is not relevant, Sir.

      Susan - 2012-06-07 13:36

      I never expected to much from the presidency, as usual, no backbone...

      Jacqui - 2012-06-07 13:38

      Sabongam, I have never heard anyone praise the general, we were all dying of laughter at the very sight of him.

      Clive - 2012-06-07 13:40

      @sabongam: I take your point about our fickleness, but still maintain that the link you bring in is tenuous. However that is only my, inexpert, opinion so anyone is obviously free to differ.

  • Henk - 2012-06-07 08:44

    Damn and they are leading the ANC. Bunch of cowards!

      Junebugg - 2012-06-07 10:14

      Cant they just say , "Beki cele F----d up and as ANC we do not tolerate corruption etc etc"....not in those exact words...but the again if the Head is corrupt whats gna happen to the rest of the body

  • Jennifer - 2012-06-07 08:45

    no comment on the state of state health either, Where have those billions in taxes for medicine gone? ... ANC in charge of ARV's... how's that going for you all? You can bet he gets his. STOP VOTING anc.

  • itumeleng.tshatiwa - 2012-06-07 08:55

    Perhaps mr. president is too ashamed to brief the press that he dissmissed his friend. if its soo clear that all the top cops ultimately end up being dismissed for corruption blah blah blah so what about all the coconuts at the bottom? SAPS is a disgrace indeed

      Jacqui - 2012-06-07 13:42

      Itumuleng He was Zuma's friend until he started talking to the anti Zuma camp.

  • Johann - 2012-06-07 08:57

    ANC their you go again.......coruption,uselesness,and you want toNationolise mines,you can even run a Munisupality,Stop preaching to you people you will give back,because what you do well is take take and take some more.When will people that vote for you and wake up and see it is not about black and white,but who can do the job the best,look at Eskom,SAA,Service delivery,Tax Money well spent,Crime,Polise,Army, you have failed in all these departments,But gues what Tannie Zille there in the Cape she is doing things right...and making you look realy bad.

      adri.noble - 2012-06-07 09:14

      What's with your spelling and grammar?.

      Clive - 2012-06-07 10:11

      Good points, but with all due respect, perhaps you should make your comments in your home language.

      sabongam - 2012-06-07 12:06

      @ adri.noble - please be noble as your surname suggests - c'mon give Johann a break, it's clear that he is Afrikaans, hence his English is not perfect. His points are valid and I differ with some but I pretty much think that people reading this can understand the points he's putting across.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-07 13:46

      Are we now going to start watching each others grammar and spelling? Suggesting writing in his home language?. What are you, the editors of Neville Meintjies neigborhood paper in 7de Laan?.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-07 09:13

    do the words: honest + ANC actually fit into a sentence, or is that an oxymoron ?

  • Shaun Homani - 2012-06-07 09:15

    JZ don't owe you any explanation

      Jennifer - 2012-06-07 09:27

      He is not big chief of Tribe South Africa. We pay taxes on everything, he is paid with those taxes to serve this country , to serve us the people, He works for the tax payer ~ which includes you I must add... and He owe explanation Big Time !

      Bob - 2012-06-07 09:29

      @Shaun Homani - You don't know too much about the real world, now do you!

      Johann - 2012-06-07 09:33

      are you stupid or something????

      Megan - 2012-06-07 09:57

      Shaun, this is where the problem comes in. People like you need to understand that the PRESIDENT has a responsibility to explain each and every single one of his actions and decisions (or in this case, his complete LACK of actions and decisions). Please remember that at the end of the day, the president (regardless of who he/she is) works FOR the people - not the other way around, which appears to be the way the ANC want to run things. The people of this country put him in that position and he is accountable to each and every citizen in this country. He absolutely owes the people of this country an explaination especially for his consistent failures! Please remember that the president works for you, that if you were to get right down to the basics, technically, the president is employed by us, to work for us. We are not employed by the president to work our asses off for him to earn a ludicrous salary with benefits that the vast majority could only ever dream of having. The president and government are answerable to the citizens of their country. And when it is clear that they are incapable of performing their delegated duties then they must go. Just the same as if you were not to perform your work responsibilites it would not be long before the boss gave you your marching orders (whoops, "marching orders" propably not the right thing to say...)

      Clive - 2012-06-07 10:21

      Like many ANC supporters, you clearly don't have the faintist clue as to what democracy means. In a true democracy the head of government is accountable to the people, who, as has already been pointed out above, pay his (inflated) salary and finance his many, many perks. So, Shaun, JZ DOES owe us many explanations for his actions and, in this particular case, inaction. Problem is, he is getting embarrassed by the increasing number of his appointments who are not up to the job, or are irredeemably corrupt, and he won't admit his errors.

      kevin.day.7370 - 2012-06-07 10:37

      I am in total agreement with those who believe Mr Zuma is answerable to the Country here. In the small villages in the mountains, the Chief can do what he likes. In a large country like ours, the Chief was voted in by the people and can be voted out. (At least that's how I understand it, but I think quite a few politicians/policemen don't think they CAN be voted out!!)

      Jacqui - 2012-06-07 13:47

      Shaunm JZ owes the country so many explanations he won't live long enough to do so. Or do you think he is God?.

      Hester - 2012-06-07 15:32

      Realy? So, who is paying his salary????? Please do not comment on things you don't have any understanding of.

  • Margaux - 2012-06-07 09:18

    fired? what a joke!!!! cele will get another position. like the rest of the people who screw up in government. mess up in one department then they give u sumthin else to screw up! if u were part of 'the struggle' or daddy's friend then it's all good. zoo ma...

  • Bob - 2012-06-07 09:26

    Why do we always have to have speculation when it comes to decisions by Zuma! If reports are leaked and the President still has not confirmed it, it means he is not being acting decisively as a President, or the news media is talking cr*p based on hearsay! Time of course will tell which is the truth!

  • G-mc - 2012-06-07 09:38

    Quote from the movie The Genius Club "The problem with not being involved in politics, is that you will be governed by a fool".thats just a quote from a movie my personal view is that all politicians are corrupt, no exclusions. Yaaawa!!!

  • Gavin - 2012-06-07 09:42

    as usual, Zuma has no comment as someone still has to write the statement he'll read out - and what's the bet he'll appoint someone equally f'ing stupid/corrupt to the position and in a years time, we'll be reading about the fall of yet another cANCer crony.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-07 13:49

      Yes, and they will have to write it in phonetics other wise he can't read it.

  • Michael - 2012-06-07 09:48

    Typical Zuma, nothing to say.

  • Nicholas - 2012-06-07 09:49

    As per usual, the announcement will finally be made long after it has already become common knowledge!

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-06-07 10:02

    we are so tired of all this political appointees why dont he just take a policeman that has been in the police all his life that knows the duty of a commisioner not a umkhonto cadre,let the cadre jobshadow this real policeman for five years and learn from him how a commisioner should behave.but as we know will get another dumb one who will come and mess it up for the next two years and than get his golden handshake and either go to jail or go to court to fight for his job which he could not do in the first place.and our useless president keep on reading statements that was written by even dumber advisors PLAESE CHANGE OUR VOTING SYSTEM SO THAT WE THE PUBLIC MUST VOTE FOR A PERSON NOT A PARTY, than we can get rid of the clowns long before they mess up big time

  • Shaun - 2012-06-07 10:07

    But off course - there are more important things than the leadership of the SAPD, mmm, such as the president`s penis....

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-06-07 10:08

    the only thing he can say is I HAVE DECIDED TO STEP DOWN AS USELESS PRESIDENT OF MZANZI

  • Clive - 2012-06-07 10:09

    Where is the leadership? Whether it is Cele or Mdluli or whoever the latest incompetent/corrupt cadre is, we want decisive and prompt action, but "decisive", "prompt" and "action" are foreign words to our so-called government and its jellyfish of a "leader".

  • kevin.day.7370 - 2012-06-07 10:32

    @sabongam.Bafana Bafana and the Boks are involved in sport. Policing our Country is not a sport, so I'm afraid I can't see your point.

  • Andre - 2012-06-07 11:45

    Zuma, fire yourself as well you moron!!

  • Jacqui - 2012-06-07 13:34

    They have no comment at the moment. There is an island in the South Pacific inhabited by goats only. Our government has written to the chief goat and asked if they can send the general there as ambassador. Till they get a reply they will remain silent on the subject and have, in the meantime, already scratched all goats cheese from the menu.

  • Jacqui - 2012-06-07 13:37

    I forgot to say Maharaj may go along as first secretary, he already bleats so well.

  • Benson - 2012-06-07 15:20

    Zuma suppose to fire all these of those people on top at the SAPS although is him who put them there.Infact Zuma he knows what he was doing to put them is the fact that he wanted them to demolishe the money of this country as he did already.After we put him as a president he took all the Zuluz in parlament so that the Natal people must gain something before we fire him and all his wives must benefit from our tex. These no chance Cele and Nathi must go otherwise his going to follow them soon.

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