Presidency dismisses Cele rumours

2011-09-26 14:50

Cape Town - The presidency on Monday dismissed reports of the imminent suspension of Police Commissioner General Bheki Cele at the start of what could prove to be a politically decisive week for President Jacob Zuma.

"The reports were based on unsourced information. I cannot deal in rumours," presidential spokesperson Mac Maharaj said.

He declined to say whether Zuma had already taken a decision on Cele's fate.

The Sunday Times reported that the president was about to send a final letter of suspension to Cele, seen as a once trusted political ally now fighting for his job, despite success in reducing crime rates.

According to the newspaper he would be barred from office while an investigation into his role in the police's R1.7bn lease deals for new headquarters took place, which the public protector had deemed unlawful.

Weighty decisions

According to Maharaj, Cele had responded at some length to Zuma's request for reasons why he should not be suspended, pending the board's findings on his fitness for office.

It was one of at least three weighty decisions on alleged wrongdoing facing the president against a backdrop of reported infighting in the governing party.

Zuma could this week announce the terms of reference of the commission of inquiry into the arms deal, a decision keenly anticipated to see whether the body would have judicial powers, enabling it to subpoena witnesses.

The justice ministry, dealing with the logistics of Zuma's surprise decision to establish an inquiry, said on Monday the matter was being treated as urgent, but would not give a date for an announcement.

It was initially expected as early as last week, but Zuma was abroad attending the 66th session of the UN General Assembly.

Another pressing matter the president was expected to tackle was Public Protector Thuli Madonsela's provisional report on alleged abuse of about R1m in state funds by Co-operative Governance Minister Sicelo Shiceka.

The report was sent to the president late last week. He had until October 3 to respond to her preliminary findings.

So does Shiceka, whose future in the Cabinet would be decided once Madonsela released her final report on the matter. Her office said she planned to do so by October 10.

  • saabnut - 2011-09-26 14:54

    they are stalling for time, whilst Showerhead decides what senior ambassadorial post to redeploy him to. trough pigs, one and all.

      Tolerant - 2011-09-26 15:08

      O-U. Too many black youths (50%) are not working, this is the reason why they earn much less.

      Smart Man - 2011-09-26 15:23

      @Saabnut, if your comment was supporting ANC, it was going to be deleted but because it is against it will not be removed. News 24 funny huh?

      saabnut - 2011-09-26 15:32

      @ Moron: EXACTLY. It is Your president, elected by you and your dof ANC buddies and gullible public. I would never vote for an imbecile. As for the insults, perhaps you want to go and look at your earlier posts from to day. Oh, and don't forget to take an extra wide broom with you...

      resiststance - 2011-09-26 15:47

      "Don`t insult our president and call him showerhead," - Why not? Can't his fragile little ego handle it? Is he going to burst into tears?

      marco - 2011-09-26 15:57

      @BloodRiver Excuse me AWB person but your dumbwit comment about "highlighting our vast superiority" just shows you that News24 has no control over the racist pigs like yourself that visits these pages.Honestly one would think by now News24 would have a screening system for blocking out people like "bloodriver aka 16 December 1838" Here's a lesson in history for you,you twat:The "Superior Race" or in your case "vast superiority" was a phrase and concept originating in the slave-holding South of the U.S.A.The later phrase Herrenvolk(German:die Herrenrasse,das Herrenvolk),interpreted as 'superior race',was a concept in Nazi ideology in which the Nordic peoples,one of the branches of what in the late-19th and early-20th century was called the Aryan Race,represent an ideal and "pure race" that was the purest representation of the original racial stock of those who were then called the Proto-Aryans,themselves believed by the Nazis to have prehistorically dwelt on the North German Plain and ultimately to have originated from Atlantis. South Africa--A Bitter Tale by Morris Siegel.."Daniel F.Malan on March 5,1953,announced his Government's conviction that South Africa's white race will continue to support its policy of unyielding opposition to the non-white political,economical and social advancement which threatens the white "supremacy" in the Union". So the twin evils of racial bigotry and racial slurs defines white supremacist even on these webpages does it not bloodriver?

      Liberty - 2011-09-26 16:03

      @bloodriver wake up the tables have turned my friend

      aman - 2011-09-26 17:11

      @Liberty - I agree with you. We have just replaced one racist White Nationalist Government with one racist Black Nationalist Government.

      Francois - 2011-09-26 22:37

      Moron, Saabnut was complimenting the president when he called him showerhead as that is the only thing on which Zuma can make a decision. Then all farmers are not half brained, the half brained ones cannot read or operate a computer, although in your case, maybe there is an exception?

      Kevin - 2011-09-27 06:41

      Moron-truth hurting you . Your name says it all

  • Roundana - 2011-09-26 14:55

    I'm sho the President will apply his mind on this one too like he did with Mogoeng Mogoeng...

      RACINGCAT - 2011-09-26 16:25

      And the Dalai lama visa

  • nic - 2011-09-26 14:55

    *sigh* Every time you think JZ has finally grown a pair and made a bloody decision, the presidency backtracks.

      Bardy - 2011-09-26 15:06

      The president will never have balls. One is protecting the other... All the way. This is how the corrupt ANC works. Cele probably has some dirt on Zuma. Just like Malema has on Zuma. They are all to scared to do anything to each other cause they know they will get fired once the truth comes out!

      saabnut - 2011-09-26 15:34

      If he had another ball, it would be lonely...

      Janine - 2011-09-27 09:15

      One would have though that, with the number of wives he has, he actually has a pair. Clearly not.

  • One - 2011-09-26 14:59

    I don't think Moron has enough work to do, so he is boring everyone with his pointless comments....

      saabnut - 2011-09-26 15:35

      Oh, and please stop insulting Showerhead, for the benefit of a genuine 'Moron'...

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-26 15:42

      those farmers have more education in their little finger that the entire anc time you eat your meal think about who put ti on your table buddy

      Kevin - 2011-09-27 06:43

      Wonder where he got the laptop

  • StevieWonder - 2011-09-26 15:01

    Me thinks the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing... Welcome to Africa.

  • Mart - 2011-09-26 15:03

    Wasn't Mac Maharaj sacked as a director of one of our local banks...something fishy about him and his wife taking bribes from Schabir Shaik - hundreds of thousands of ront! Why should we believe a word coming out of his mouth, he is cut from the same cloth as many of his comrades...a total waste of skin and jobless without his mate Zuma.

      allie - 2011-09-26 15:26

      You`re right,if ever there was a snake...

  • IC1 - 2011-09-26 15:05

    JZ this is what happens when you put dodgy mates in positions of power, they carry on with their dodgy dealongs and you get it in the neck and spend your time defending yourself and your dodgy mates all the time instead of doing what you are meant to do, which is LEAD!

  • Spade - 2011-09-26 15:08

    Zuma is showing us what he's really made of. The ANC has become a circus with little men running around trying to become big men, and effectively creating huge divisions in the movement. With so much to lose, and mounting dissension in his ranks, he will no doubt revert to the kind of tactics that saw him remove Mbeki from office. Heads will roll, backs will be stabbed and South Africans will suffer.

  • arthur.amgen - 2011-09-26 15:13

    Zuma has no choice. He must act. He and the ANC do not govern SA any more. He has no will or integrity to act against corrupt cadre,s / comrades. The winds of circumstances and situations are moving SA to a certain place.

  • DFSS - 2011-09-26 15:18

    How would SA have looked without apartheid, Why would SA turn out any better than the sum of the best of the whole rest of Africa? As it was in 1994, more black graduates, better schooling , even Bantu education, economic prosperity for SA black people, than the best of the rest of Africa South of the Sahara.

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-09-26 15:21

    Welcome to News24 blog, if you don't agree with us then you're stupid, dumm or and idiot,guess what I think the President is correct in dealing this the way he is and he should take his time, this is not a state of emergency.

      Spade - 2011-09-26 15:28

      Quite right. The fact that crime is the one thing threatening the very substance of South Africa, and our Police Commissioner may very well be a crook, is far less important than telling the UN why we support full Palestinian membership, and don't want them to hurt our friend Gadaffi.

      saabnut - 2011-09-26 15:36

      Wow- what a surprise. well we all know what the 'future' holds for the masses that vote ANC...

      falcon2020 - 2011-09-26 15:39

      @Myanc - the president is correct and due process should be followed, imho what is getting everyone that this is the 2nd Police Chief IN A ROW that has been fingered and probably as guilty as the other.

      gatvol4corru - 2011-09-26 20:09

      oh hell -- you are dof comrade

      Kevin - 2011-09-27 06:44

      And your mother dislikes you

  • Vjaay - 2011-09-26 15:22

    Zuma is a pupol....

      saabnut - 2011-09-26 15:37

      Careful- you may be upsetting a genuine Moron...

  • mac-sdi - 2011-09-26 15:25

    News24 you idiots..! Stop these crappy headlines.

  • tootingdel - 2011-09-26 15:42

    Zuma and decisive just don't go together!

  • johan - 2011-09-26 15:45


      Buffalo - 2011-09-26 16:23

      A rather large insult to hunter-gatherers Johan. They were the originators of science and technology, innovators and inventors. And the anc morons?

      Face - 2011-09-26 17:03

      Or part of the Clue-Less clan!!

  • SillySod - 2011-09-26 17:05

    Jay: "Hey, General! Why did you go against my... no, your doctors orders to stay in hospital, until it was safe..., er no, until you were well again! Do you not know how the law..., er, how important it is to be completely healthy, before coming back to work?" Bheki: "But my president, the doctor said that my acute back pain would go away, if I left my wallet at home, and carried a card, instead". Jay: "Don't 'but' me! First you spoil the party for everyone, by eating your sticky-fingers-cake and playing hide and seek standing in the open, and then you spurn expert advice when you eat too much, and get sick! Now the other guests are saying that I must chase you away from the party, before their hiding places are discovered, and their cake is taken away from them". Bheki: "But Comrade, I think you are looking at this game through Thinted glasses, and I'm sure I can find at least 700 reasons why I should stay at the party. Why, if I had to dig out all sorts of documents to compile a new CV, that might tire out my ARMS, a great DEAL". Jay: "Comrade Minister..., oops, did I say that? I can see I have completely misunderstood your condition, and that you are very healthy, indeed. Why did you not mention this important medical information, before? Come over here - what do you think about giving old Nathi a break from his heavy schedule, and ask him to go and represent us abroad? I heard he was fond of raw fish! Of course, we'd have to find a replacement for him. Hmmm, I wonder...

      Ay Gee Wils - 2011-09-26 17:51

      amd the saga continues - nag ou groote ...

  • UmlunguBaba - 2011-09-26 17:36

    Dear Moron, Liberty, myanc, Musa and all other respondents to 'trolls', or entirely brainless commentary; this is a wonderful medium to engage each other, and it is a pity that free thinkers avoid it, simply because of the low level debate exhibited. Whilst it is unfortunate that racism and brainlessness are a part of our society, it serves no reason to engage with minor influences who can't wait to get home to their keyboards, to vent their frustration at having had their butts kicked around all day. By participating in their games, you make yourself guilty of the same questionable attributes, and declare yourselves to be no less brainless than those who you honour with your time. Up the stakes, people.

      Spade - 2011-09-26 22:39

      Umlungu - practise what you preach. You will gain nothing by name-calling and insults. These forums could do with less personal attacks, and more debate. Learn to sift through the nonsense, and you will find many people willing to engage meaningfully.

      DomDonner - 2011-09-27 09:09

      Duuuh, what was he saying, Spade?

  • Arthur Stead - 2011-09-26 17:36

    If it wasn't for our so called half brained white's, none of us would have been able to leave any comments on this blog!!??

  • Kevin - 2011-09-27 06:41

    Come on zoomer. Be a man for once .Do the right thing and nail the thugs.Shower head must at least do one decent thing . All he has to do is ask Julius for permission.

  • raspatin - 2011-10-02 16:29

    @ RacingCat,the Dala Lama will never gonna be in RSA as this would undermine SRA-China relattions,we can't affort to loose the Chinese investors becouse of this karate-separist,China will never create a so called "Volk Staat" peaople like this crazzy old man'sweakened countries like Russia.If you accept such a mentality you will then be automatically voting for a Volk Staat,so let him be crashed ,,,and China shall,long live China!

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