Pretoria cops in naked pics scandal

2011-08-10 10:08

Pretoria - Members of the Brooklyn police station in Pretoria initially refused to lay charges of assault and indecent assault against two colleagues who allegedly took naked pictures of a detained part-time model.

Station commander of the Pretoria West police station, Colonel Sivanandan Moodley, would not confirm on Tuesday that they knew the identities of the two men who had allegedly assaulted Marina Klopppers, 23. The charges have now been referred to his police station.

"The case is now receiving the immediate attention that it deserves and we will get all the outstanding statements. If there are any merits to the case, the necessary steps will be taken against the police officials.”

Red light

Kloppers, a marketing consultant from Pretoria and her friend, Charise de Wit, 22, were driving in Mayville, Pretoria on the morning of July 21.

Kloppers, the passenger, said they hadn’t stopped at a red traffic light because they felt unsafe. They were then followed by a police vehicle.

Two police officials forced them off the road and both women were then thrown in the police van and after some hours, taken to the Laudium clinic for blood tests.

The police officials apparently forced Kloppers to undress and took pictures of her after she alleged to a nurse that the two had assaulted her.

She was then taken to the Pretoria West police cells where she fell into a diabetic coma as police apparently refused her medical treatment.

Kloppers said members of the Brooklyn police station would not take her statement on Saturday as she first had to bring all her witnesses to the police station.

Attempted murder charge

Kloppers said a constable once again refused to open a case on Monday, “because I had been arrested and had no case against the police”.

Later a senior officer became involved and charges of assault and indecent assault were laid.

However, police wouldn’t lay charges of crimen injuria and illegal arrest and detention. Police officials apparently said those were civil cases which had to be heard separately.

Delia de Vries, the legal representative for both women, said a charge of attempted murder was also being considered as Kloppers had been refused medical help and fell into a coma.

  • Ruff-ian - 2011-08-10 10:13


      Pictureof - 2011-08-10 10:26

      Agreed Gony, StinkyRatbreath24 has sunk to a new low.

      PunkBuster - 2011-08-10 11:01

      This is disgusting, cant believe we have to rely on these idiots to keep us safe...

      crackerr - 2011-08-10 11:11

      Whatever the merits may be, one would imagine that the nurse/other police officials would first have ensured that the charges be laid and THEN REQUEST THE COMPLAINANT TO VOLUNTARILY SHOW THE INJURIES FOR CONFIRMATION AND PHOTOGRAPHING and officially record the complainant's response. Where are those photos or medium on which they have been captured? Attached to or referenced to in what? This is not sensationalism on the part of the media. They are reporting what the alleged victim(s) are saying. It is not the media's functions to hold an inquiry into the allegations before publishing. We far too often hear of police refusing to open cases against their own. It is not for us to say if the police are guilty. But the police are also not the appropriate persons to say whether complainants are to be believed or not.

      McDaNife - 2011-08-10 11:15

      Omg to be locked for jumping a red robot. I jumped red robots a few times but only issued a fine. Please someone tell me is this a criminal offence or a traffic violation.

      subtle59 - 2011-08-10 11:28

      she is hot

      JMan - 2011-08-10 11:48

      Makes you wonder who the criminals are in this country....IF this is true.

      myancmyfutur - 2011-08-10 11:49

      @Morentebo and DW, I wish I could respond but my post saying "There's more to this story than the lady is telling" was removed by news24 either perceived to be offensive or racist, so it will make no sense for me to debate further.

      Komasa - 2011-08-10 12:24

      The Observer no need to look it up, hypocrisy is a characteristic of your western culture. You a bit peeved about the riots in the UK or embarassed that white's were also rioting. Freedom of speech always seems to get the fools to shout the loudest.

      Welleducated - 2011-08-10 12:35

      I know cops get away with murder. Cops always protect "their own" - and I have personal experience!! Teh same applies to all those in powerful position such as in politics.

      Pharcide - 2011-08-10 12:53

      @ GonnyVonYuri - The article would have said that it was different officials; the impression is given that they were the same officials and even if it was female officers, they have no right to No.1 See the accused naked, they are not medical personnel and No. 2 Take photos of the accused. If you can’t make intelligent comments then rather shut up. Ignorance is bliss, isn’t it?

      pierreedge - 2011-08-10 13:42

      This story doesnt add up, either the journalist didn't get all the facts or he rushed to write the story Like mcdanife said, forced off the road and thrown in the police van for jumping a red traffic light seems way to extreme. Then taken to the Laudium clinic for blood tests, ok, so what was the results, highly intoxicated? sober as a judge? why didnt the journalist check that? Then the police officials apparently forced Kloppers to undress and took pictures of her after she alleged to a nurse that the two had assaulted her??? I dont get it, they assaulted her, then forced her to undress in front of them after they assaulted her to take pictures of their own assault evidence??? Last why doesnt the article mention the legal penalty for jumping a red light? jail or fine? Poor poor journalism, the story is full of holes and inconsistencies

      Virginia - 2011-08-10 13:50

      @Piereedge this is not extreme for the police, a year agao a friend of our who had a Nando"s outlet was leaving the premises late at night after closing, and has to reverse down a short one way road to check that the premises are okay, he was stopped by the police, assaulted and thrown in the police van, lucky someone who knew his car alerted his wife regarding the incident. Some of our Police do not know how to behave as such, they supposed to be the guardians of the public but they are not, just plain scum.

      Greg - 2011-08-10 14:21

      @Afrikaner.....Where is your culture?...You do not display the culture of Afrikaners that I know - who are decent people with respect for others!

      LDP - 2011-08-11 02:09

      I dunno hey. That story spells lots of vague allegations. Maybe she was arrested coz she jumped a traffic light and didn't stop when the cops tried to pull them over (the story states they were forced off the road). The pics were so the cops could show proof of assault (or lack thereof)after she had claimed assault had occurred. The diabetic coma sounds a bit dramatic but may be the only real issue in this case. Just my opinion from the story and something for you to think about...

      czovczov - 2011-08-11 07:13

      And they wine and bitch when a few of them are killed by criminals. You cant have your cake and eat it too SAPS.

      Ayoba - 2011-08-11 14:13

      Can someone send us the pics so that we can see the evidence.

  • Mdavu-zn - 2011-08-10 10:14

    What's really going on with the South African Police really?? Maybe these people should reach a level of study before they can be employed really. How can they do such stupid thing? IT'S CHILDISH DAMN!!

      euro-african - 2011-08-10 11:09

      That is uncalled for. I am sure as many black women are abused by the police. This woman is obviously attractive, and the cops acted like disgusting imbeciles. They need to be dealt with. No need for racism.

      LiciousDee - 2011-08-10 11:14

      @MasterMind, where in the article does it say the police were Black?

      daaivark - 2011-08-10 11:26

      Mastermind, you're crazy.

      Ingie - 2011-08-10 11:34

      They are stupid, thick, overweight and could not care a less. Doing what these officers do make the public more wary to trust them. I will not stop at night should this happen to me.

      Mdavu-zn - 2011-08-10 12:29

      Very funny how people act after sneezing sh*t like this MasterMind here. People just talk things they do not even mean or have an idea if what are those things suppose to mean. GO TO "FOOLISHMIND = MasterMind" you cowerd.

      MasterMind - 2011-08-10 13:53

      Yes very childish indeed, but stop being so damn PC and see what is happening - did I mention the cops were BLACK??? It is a statement that racial polarisation is the worst it has ever been in SA right now. BLACKS get harassed by white cops and vice versa, so Mdavu, my supposed learned person take your cowErd statement and shove it where the polony hides. Such a freekin inferiority complex, you remind me of my poor Dutch great granny, who was so stubborn she died from spiting the world - Idjotti Amazotti !!!!!

  • CPII - 2011-08-10 10:16

    Methinks SAPS will pay dearly for this :(

      GonnyVonYuri - 2011-08-10 10:20

      How so? I doubt it.

      MissGremlinSays - 2011-08-10 10:28

      Methinks the tax payers will pay dearly for this...

      Jack Turner - 2011-08-10 10:33

      In this country...You must be kidding..............

      Ingie - 2011-08-10 11:38

      Please and what pray will be done. NOTHING as like all the other criminals in the work but still get paid

      CPII - 2011-08-11 07:43

      I also have a daughter this old and know what I would have done

  • dragon - 2011-08-10 10:17

    I say good Delia de Vries- throw the legal book at the police department!

  • Mason - 2011-08-10 10:18

    WTF???? Let us all now please feel safe when dealing with law enforcement! Criminals? Police? Criminals? Police? MMMmmmm i wonder!

  • Dash - 2011-08-10 10:18

    Gees what a blonde moment;-)

  • ProudofPink - 2011-08-10 10:18

    Who are the criminals? Who are the cops?

      Sunshine - 2011-08-10 10:36

      one and the same !!

  • Ryan77 - 2011-08-10 10:20

    Just fire the bastards !!! - 2011-08-10 13:14

      And then they are allowed to keep their firearms in order to keep murdering and maiming or sell it to those who want to kill?

      twincamsam - 2011-08-11 08:20

      They won't. They will get suspended with pay, forgotten for six months. Then they will have a court date, it will be tied up in court. Then they will postpone the case for three years, and then the docket will disappear. These guys will sit lekker at home drinking beer doing nothing with full salary. South Africa…. The only country in the world where criminals get to sit at home doing nothing… while being paid.

  • JohannV - 2011-08-10 10:21

    Gerhard Pretorius and NEws24, SHAME ON YOU! This is one of the most misleading headlines I've read in a long time. The cops didn't take naked pics of the girl in the way the headline suggests. She laid a charge against them and the pics were forcibly taken as proof for possible bruises or injuries. Maybe you should rename yourselves "The Electronic Son - ons distort alles..."

      JohannV - 2011-08-10 10:52

      "Pretoria cops in wrongful arrest complaint" - now that sounds more like it.

      MissGremlinSays - 2011-08-10 11:13

      Too true. Actually, the headline seems to indicate that the officers involved are naked in the pictures. EEEWH.

      Thad - 2011-08-10 13:19

      Actually, after the nurse took pictures of her bruises, the cops came into the room, forced her to undress and took pictures with their cellphones. The article was just badly written, but the real story justifies the headline.

  • Donald - 2011-08-10 10:21

    Marina was a passenger in the car............... why the fu*k was she arrested? Her crime? The SAP have a difficult job but there can be no excusing what they did - hope these officers get the punishment they deserve........... and more! Citizens should respect the law - not fear it.

      SayWhat? - 2011-08-10 11:26

      The police have a difficult job because they're the ones who caused crime to get out of hand. They are part of the "difficult job".. F**king bunch of barbaric, criminal PIGS!!

      Neil - 2011-08-10 22:33

      I say wait for the crooked cops and then sort them out.. There will come nothing of this. Dokit will just go missing.

  • Felix - 2011-08-10 10:23

    IMHO I think the cops took the pictures to prove their innocence if she continued with an assault case... "The police officials apparently forced Kloppers to undress and took pictures of her after she alleged to a nurse that the two had assaulted her." It is a bit dodgey that they arrest a passenger for being in a car which shot a red light, imagine they did that with every taxi...

      Ingie - 2011-08-10 11:41

      But why would pictures be taken anyway. They went through a red robot like you and I would do. So think clearly what would the pictures be for and why?? Are pictures etc not just taken if there is a rape case or an assault case. But to remove ones clothes for going thru a red robot a bit much would you not say.

      Komasa - 2011-08-10 12:06

      @ingie she claimed she had been assaulted.

      EarthBound - 2011-08-10 12:45

      hehehehe, no taxis on the road........

      JR - 2011-08-10 13:12

      Felix, any proof they needed would have been clear when she was in her underwear. They forced her to remove her underwear as well and photographed her on their cell phones. Official photos are not taken on cell phones. These were abusive perverst that need to be jailed and anyone who receievd or forwarded the photos to other people.

  • Annoy - 2011-08-10 10:23

    Cele fire those sick cops

      Sabathman 33 - 2011-08-10 10:39

      And then your self too Cele!

      Not Black - 2011-08-10 10:44

      "Cannot do Annoy," "I am about to be FIRED as well" - Cele - 2011-08-10 13:19

      They are just taking the Police firearms with, THANK YOU !

  • Ethan - 2011-08-10 10:26

    Why was she arrested? She wasn't even driving wrongful arrest written all over it!!

      TaniaS - 2011-08-10 22:22

      Perhaps she was somewhat under the influence and a bit lippy. I would do the same if guys manhandled my friend. Considering the reputation of our police officers, I would fight with all my heart. Be she every colour under the rainbow.

  • Slapper - 2011-08-10 10:26

    Keystone Cops now have a seriously sick twist. What next?

  • Blikskottel - 2011-08-10 10:27

    Those cops and all their bosses should be fired, includingtheir political boss. They are resposible for making sure things like this do not happen. I say nail there arses to the proverbial cross.

  • Supermack - 2011-08-10 10:30

    If I was the father of the girl there would be two more policemen that would have to watch their backs 24/7

      Sunshine - 2011-08-10 10:39

      i agree Supermack. I have 2 girls and if it happened to them, not matter how it was reported or what the circumstances were, they had better watch their backs.... say no more !!

      Sunshine - 2011-08-10 10:39

      "No" matter - finger trouble sorry

      DEVILS SON - 2011-08-10 11:40

      those cops need to come to in a veld with a condom hanging out their butts

      Komasa - 2011-08-10 12:10

      @DEVILS SON if anyone had to define racism you and @ingie would be the bench mark.

      DEVILS SON - 2011-08-11 09:03

      @komasa thanks man, but i still have not seen any print of the race of said cops, i couldnt really care, they should still wake up in a veld regardless of race

  • MissGremlinSays - 2011-08-10 10:31

    I am pretty sure the attempted murder charge is valid - when time for court comes, it will no doubt be pleaded down, however, for the moment it looks like she should lay further charges. She could very well have died, because they denied her treatment.

  • Supermack - 2011-08-10 10:31

    If I was the father of the girl there would be two more policemen that would have to watch their backs 24/7

  • alicia - 2011-08-10 10:35

    I am sickened to the core.

  • SirMark - 2011-08-10 10:38

    cele`s finest . our SAP is really PATHETIC .

  • TRiP - 2011-08-10 10:38

    i say bring the LONDON RIOTS to Pretoria, the POLICE are the enemy. They need to be taught tough love. People shouldn't fear governments, governments should fear the people

  • FU2 - 2011-08-10 10:41

    Perverted cops

  • Nepster10 - 2011-08-10 10:46

    Lets see the pics. lol.

  • sakegr23 - 2011-08-10 10:46

    GonnyVonYuri: Yes the report is vague however there was without a doubt foul play in this incident. Police officials DO NOT take photographs or medical reports of reports of assault. That needs to be done by a doctor and a form will be filled in by the doctor. It does not really matter if male or female officers took the photos that is NOT their jurisdiction. If you want to make such comments best you get an education beforehand. No doubt you are a man who supports such treatment of women

  • samzaG - 2011-08-10 10:48

    Mcwaaaaaa the chick is damn beatiful, she is hot

      DEVILS SON - 2011-08-10 10:51

      and thats is why this whole mess is happening, she lucky she was not near a veld, f@cking pigs

  • Kale - 2011-08-10 10:52

    Good old africa. I hope these cops get shot by their criminal brathas in the line of duty and die slowly and painfully.

  • Hubbles - 2011-08-10 10:55

    How does one fall into a diabetic coma and then revive out of that coma the next morning without medication. Sounds like a bit of sleeping off the old fruit of the vine.

      wombles - 2011-08-10 12:53

      ai hubbles you're not very clever are you.... she was given her medication at the station before being rushed to hospital where she was given other medication those animals every single one at the station should be up for attempted murder only country in the world where criminals get helicopters and millpark hospital when shot yet ordinary citizens get f-all

  • crackerr - 2011-08-10 10:58

    People who are locked up/deprived of freedom of movement by police must ask their legal representatives to advise them on the feasibility of opening criminal charges for kidnapping/menseroof. It is not a requirement that the victim be removed to a different vicinity or be kept in a private holding. Being held in custody in a police or court cell or even prevented to leave the presence of a policeman should be sufficient to constitute kidnapping if of course the other elements are satisfied.

  • BryanJhb - 2011-08-10 10:58

    U don't need to have bruises to be assaulted!

      InternetMan - 2011-08-12 13:07


  • Papsak - 2011-08-10 11:04

    The naked truth is that our police officers have become so heavy-handed. Some of the things they do in places like Soweto on weekends are beyond description. I hope their lies are uncovered and laid bare for all to see.

  • George - 2011-08-10 11:04

    Well done SAPS!

  • Ryan Tunney - 2011-08-10 11:05

    F**king useless muppets. The police ARE the criminals.

  • ksted0606 - 2011-08-10 11:09

    This story seems incomplete - leaves people to jump to conclusions.

  • Dave50 - 2011-08-10 11:15

    If this is true then no wonder cops are being shot like dogs on the street. I just feel sorry for the good cops and I have met a few, who will be classed with the ones that did this. To remove all questions let it be tried in court and by a secrt cops court.

  • Dave50 - 2011-08-10 11:16

    Sorry, NOT by a secret cops court

  • Ann - 2011-08-10 11:21

    More cops who are suspect. This is a disgrace to the SAPS and to South Africa. Cele has unleashed monsters who believe they are above the law.

  • GT - 2011-08-10 11:33

    The is fekking scary.

  • Alpahbrutus - 2011-08-10 11:36

    How are we supposed to feel sorry for the cops when they do things like this! The SAPS as an institution is a joke. They are egotistical, power-hungry, gun-toting idiots for the most part. I am sure that there are a few dedicated, good cops out there somewhere, although I haven't seen any in the last decade and a half.

  • Ingie - 2011-08-10 11:36

    @LiciousDee- well helloo... how many white cops have you encountered lately. To be honest I never see hardly any whites anymore so yes treatment like this can only be from animals.

  • Cyberscep - 2011-08-10 11:38

    @LiciousDee - Don't be foolish as surely you must know by now that in this wonderful "democratic" country of ours that if a white is alleged to have committed a crime especially against a black person, that there will ALWAYS be reference to the accuser's race. Hence we can duduce from this article that the police were in fact black as no mention of "white policemen" was made! Show me a single example in farm attacks, hijackings, cash in transit heists, etc, etc where references are made to "black" accusers and I will immediately retract what I have said as I sure in hell cannot find any..

  • erno.v.dyk - 2011-08-10 11:39

    GO GIRLS! Ride these imbeciles as far as possible! IT will not be the first (and if something is not done - LAST) time that the Brooklyn Police are seen to be vigilantes and a criminal force themselves! I say, FIRE the station commander and fire all involved! Firstly, skipping a red light is a traffic offence and not a criminal offence and the police POEPHOLLE should have known the correct procedures. If there are any legal people reading this, please assist and aid these girls. BROOKLYN police are known for their reckless regard and ignorance to the law!

      Tilly - 2011-08-10 13:27

      I agree with you and she was a passenger!

  • SGL - 2011-08-10 11:39

    A relative is in a senior position with the anti-corruption unit and he has received MANY death threats from corrupt police who amongst others, do things like this. I believe Ms Kloppers' story - the majority of the police are a bunch of low lifes who think they are above the law. They threaten the non-corrupt cops, who are in the minority, and then we land up with stories like this. Disgusting! But then with Cele and his buddies leading the police, we can't expect anything better from SAPS now can we.

  • Sharief - 2011-08-10 11:44

    Our police are a disgrace...these police officers will probably get away with this...SAPS STINKS!

  • SGL - 2011-08-10 11:45

    @ McDaNife - any female driver who feels unsafe while driving at night has the RIGHT to slow down at red robots and stop streets but not come to a full stop. The black bastards (YES, I DID say that!) who did this to this woman, should be stripped and paraded down Church Street, down Schoeman Street, up Duncan Street and then be thrown into a cell NAKED at Brooklyn Police Station. They should then be summarily dismissed from SAPS. We have enough sex crime in SA and don't need perverts like this on our streets.

  • Rulide - 2011-08-10 11:50

    And they ask why they are killed by the public!!!!

  • - 2011-08-10 11:51

    Somthing sounds very fishy to me, to many holes in this story. What really happened? the truth will come out it always does. lets not comment until then.

  • Ed - 2011-08-10 11:51

    would many of you care this much if this chick was not hot? maybe check her facebook profile and check the naked 'fhm' photo-shoot pictures she has there...and then get back to something worthwhile.

  • INsaneSA - 2011-08-10 11:53

    Imagine the outcry if it had been a black woman victim and two white policemen culprits, then there would have been public outcry citing RACISM warranting the attention of the ANC/ANCYL/Police MEC/Police minister/HRC etc. Since the roles are reversed, the 'cheeky whitey' probably deserved it.

  • morena - 2011-08-10 11:55

    thats the new excuse skipp the red light because you felt unsafe only because of that one red light, didn't you feel unsafe they whole early morning

      wombles - 2011-08-10 12:57

      moron bit difficult for your brother to hijack when car is moving they still need instructions from the driver how to drive and that won't happen if she's not stationery

  • allan.clean - 2011-08-10 11:55

    Its because they are White. As well all know, and have been told so often on this forum. Its our turn to pay for what happened in the past to black people. Therefore, just suck up the punishment.