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Pretoria lawyer stabs, kills boy's dog

2012-09-14 08:36

Pretoria - A Pretoria lawyer has been arrested after he stabbed and killed the dog of a 12-year-old boy while both were out walking their animals.

The incident happened in a security estate in Moreletapark at about 16:00 on Wednesday, reported Beeld.

The boy, Aiden Viljoen, was walking his ridgeback Samson and another dog, Kiara, on a lead when the dog saw Francois Greeff come along with his two dogs.

The ridgeback apparently started pulling forward to get to the other dogs where according to the boy, there was a lot of growling and the leads got tangled up.

However, the dogs did not bite each other.

The lawyer allegedly leaned forward, over the boy, and stabbed the dog, piercing Samson’s lungs, causing him to die barely an hour later.

“He hurt Simson and Kiara was also cut on the ear. He then stood back and I asked him: ‘Did you just cut my dog?’ and he said yes. I asked: ‘Aren’t you going to apologise? And he said ‘no’ and walked away.”

“Simson came to lie against me and when I looked down I saw blood dripping down his leg. My dog didn’t deserve that,” said the sad boy.

Viljoen received the dog from his grandfather who died last year.

Greeff allegedly told the boy’s father that he used the knife to defend himself and his dogs.

But he told Beeld that he understood that what he did was wrong.

Comments
  • millionwatts1 - 2012-09-14 08:49

    Savage.

      joe.mac.31521301 - 2012-09-14 09:24

      Couldn’t agree more – He is a savage!!

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-17 22:25

      https://www.facebook.com/Simsonvignons

  • elgh.elgh - 2012-09-14 08:50

    Some people are seriously starting to lose the plot. There are only bad news in the news. Raping, killing and the list go on. People should get their priorities straight.

      ludlowdj - 2012-09-14 11:26

      The man who stands and watches as another commits a crime is just as guilty.

  • jock.black.50 - 2012-09-14 08:51

    Perhaps first try and get away from the situation before you take deadly action - who was the grownup in this situation??

  • werner.victor.31 - 2012-09-14 08:53

    And he also cut the other dog! so it could well have been the boy! yes lets all do that and swing around knives when there are kids around!

  • lynette.mufaro - 2012-09-14 08:54

    Poor Kid,poor dog-did not deserve to die that way.What is the maximum sentence that this lawyer can get?

      lorain.maseko - 2012-09-14 10:04

      I have to wonder what the hell he was thinking. he should be jailed on top of being sued.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-17 22:25

      https://www.facebook.com/Simsonvignons

      desre.canovi - 2012-09-18 19:54

      I assume the lawyer will just get a fine, we arent that strict with animal cruelty.

  • had.enuf.1 - 2012-09-14 08:56

    This is beyond belief. If the news article is telling it like it happened and the dogs were not having an almighty scrap, killing each other, there is no need to have attacked any dogs in "self-defence". Also, this happened inside a security estate, so one would hardly expect much trouble whilst out strolling with your dog. Why would a seemingly educated person suddenly behave like a complete savage in this manner ? I cannot imagine carrying a knife for self defence. I wouldn't like to let an attacker get that close, but of course you never can control the circumstances of an attack. What about pepper spray or something less lethal in a seemingly safe area ?

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-14 09:02

      Why did he feel the compulsion to carry a knife in a security estate? Now he has put his career on the line. Lawyers should not have criminal records as they are officers of the court whose duty is to assist in upholding the law

      irma.white.9 - 2012-09-14 16:20

      I agree- a knife is ridiculous.

  • karen.gerhardi - 2012-09-14 08:57

    Sadly the animal protection act is rather toothless and this guy probably knows it. I say name and shame him. The only real pain he will feel is if he loses business over this.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-14 15:59

      Hey everyone, Thank you so much for your interest. He was accused of malicious damage to property witch is a Class A Offence. There are no bite marks and when my brother and I visited him his words was that he prevented the situation. He showed no remorse what so ever. My brother's son is devastated as my father was well known in the Ridgeback Community for his beautiful dogs and this was a gift from him, kind of a last living memory. He was the adult and also being a lawyer he should have better judgment. I also placed my pocket knife in his hand and told him to open it before i got to him jut to show him that if a dog is attacking you, you will first kick or punch there is no time to open the knife. I hope this clears up some questions. The Criminal Court date is the 2nd of October and Beeld will do a follow-up on the day that the dogs Ashes are being put with my fathers.

  • mofstok - 2012-09-14 09:00

    Maybe we should get all the facts before resorting to righteous indignation. There are three sides to a story: each party's own version, and the truth.

      shazyrat - 2012-09-14 11:05

      There is a dead Ridgeback !

      abra.kadaver.1 - 2012-09-15 13:40

      Well said Mofstok, I owe you a Bells.

      phillip.havenga - 2012-09-15 21:16

      This ass deserves to be whipped in public! Hows that for righteous indignation. That animal had more humanity in it than him.

  • anien.vanvuuren - 2012-09-14 09:01

    Tipical strong man mentallity surely he would not have done this to a nother grown up mans dog, if this insident scars Aiden for life is Mr Lawyer going to be at his aid? killing pets is murder.

      brenton.tyrrell - 2012-09-15 13:48

      Agreed anien. The man is a bully and a coward. Had he pulled this stunt with me he would have needed an urgent blood transfusion.

  • Blackpoison - 2012-09-14 09:02

    Just like that f%^$-nut in Montana that beat a pitbull to death with a stick...because the dog "looked" aggressive. Would like to get hold of him with a stick..

  • harry.dewet.5 - 2012-09-14 09:11

    The lawyer is a pure bully - this a..hole deserves to be put in jail and bullied by other prisoners, because he probably thinks he is untouchable.

  • arthur.marks.754 - 2012-09-14 09:21

    This is surely one fu...d up lawyer. Hope the boy lays a charge and the people in area BOYCOTT the d..s.

  • phathuchicos - 2012-09-14 09:23

    I don't think they'll be any lawyer on earth that will pass through pearly gates... all the lies, manipulations, cheating and all unspeakable acts they do to win cases both in court and life won't put a smile on St Peter's face.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-17 22:26

      https://www.facebook.com/Simsonvignons

  • keri.dewaal - 2012-09-14 09:26

    He should be locked up! People like that do not deserve to own animals.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-17 22:26

      https://www.facebook.com/Simsonvignons

  • Leah - 2012-09-14 09:27

    A lawyer carrying a knife? Was it a pocket knife? I do not understand this. Would a pocket knife go that deep? This is sick.

      nicholas.graan - 2012-09-15 16:40

      Clearly he was looking for an opportunity to use his knife. If he didn't have it on him everyone would have gone home and forgotten about the "incident".

  • kathy.bez - 2012-09-14 09:28

    being a lawyer is no excuse to be a bully, I feel you should pay a R50000 fine to an animal rescue organization buy that boy poor another dog, and do 5 years community service at an animal shelter near you, shame on you

  • Dawn Campbell Gibson - 2012-09-14 09:31

    you see! Rubbish comes in ALL races!

  • kitty.vanjaarsveld.9 - 2012-09-14 09:31

    Jy kan wonder "wat as" maar daar was nie asse nie, wat soek n welopgevoede man (prokureur) in 'n sekuriteits kompleks met 'n mes in sy sak. Ons bevolking is bevolk, alles moet met geweld opgelos word.

  • leslie.rabie - 2012-09-14 09:32

    SIES! that is cruelty against animals.. hope the F(*^&&^% gets Jail time.. he is probably one of those lawyers to defends the scum of SA!

      ronald.rantalot - 2012-09-15 10:27

      assumption...

  • carolyn.dewrance - 2012-09-14 09:33

    He should be disbarred from the Law society, loose his business and put into jail for animal abuse. Bastard does not belong in the world of normal people. Maybe the death sentence for him as well, after all he could have stuck the knife into the boy as well, Murder and attempted Murder.

  • warwick.railton.7 - 2012-09-14 09:36

    Nail him hard. A person that does this to animals has no place in society, he himself is a reject, and his profession is also tainted with how they manipulate and corrupt the justice system. Why should a young boy be subjected to the hate of one small man? Nail this garbage.

  • tanya.pepler.1 - 2012-09-14 09:39

    No 12 year old (or anyone for that matter) should ever be subjected to their pet dying in their arms because of some chop trying to be Bear Grills, strolling in a secure complex with a knife. Put him in a prison for one night - in our delinquent system he should receive the punishment he deserves.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-17 22:26

      https://www.facebook.com/Simsonvignons

  • lee.theron.9 - 2012-09-14 09:39

    Even if the kid could not control the dogs surely the adult man could and I don't think it was necessary to have to stab the dog. Gee this story has really upset my day.

      irma.white.9 - 2012-09-14 16:23

      And being in a security estate, surely if someone had shouted for help people would have come to see what the problem was. This guy is an idiot and a coward for doing this. May he go to jail for a long time.

  • ynagouran - 2012-09-14 09:40

    His actions were uncalled for. He must receive harsh punishment - imprisonment. Greeff has feelings for his pets, so he murdered someone else's best friend. He is not an animal lover co's an animal lover would NEVER hurt any pet. Aiden, my heartfelt condolences for your loss. Simson was sure a beaut. :-( RIP Simson

  • jan.viljoen1 - 2012-09-14 09:40

    Also see https://www.facebook.com/groups/rhodesianridgebacks

  • stuka.nel - 2012-09-14 09:43

    I just went to check on facebook to see how many Francois Greeff's there are and wow there's allot...Id rather change my name to Mude F0dze than walk around a Francois "w@nker lawyer from PTA" Greef d00s...my apologies to the decent Francois Greeff's

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-14 13:03

      Hey, He deactivated his Facbook Profile this morning.

      stuka.nel - 2012-09-14 13:28

      @ Willie..hy's nommer panzie poofter..sorry oor die woef.

  • abdullah.abdullah.31105 - 2012-09-14 09:48

    You south africans are a gruesome bunch.

      aj.oosthuizen.7 - 2012-09-14 10:33

      Please don't generalize..we try our best not to all be savage murderers...

      LanfearM - 2012-09-15 12:05

      @ abdullah - yeah? And where are you from? Come now, don't be shy, tell us of this wonderful place where you live where is no such thing as animal abuse or murder?

      claire.verdonk - 2012-09-20 11:47

      Sadly there are people like this all over the world Abdullah. As you can see, the majority of South Africans commenting on this story are horrified that this could have happened which negates your rather pathetic generalization. Im glad to say that most South Africans love and care for their animals.

      gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-10-26 12:02

      ???????????????????????? Muslim?

  • kerrimg - 2012-09-14 09:54

    now he thinks he is a lawyer he can get away with this. no heart at all.....

  • chareen.boake - 2012-09-14 10:01

    Print his name...name him and shame him. Piece of human waste!

      LanfearM - 2012-09-15 12:05

      His name is Francois Greef, in Moreleta Park, Pretoria.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-17 22:27

      https://www.facebook.com/Simsonvignons

  • ignatiousmarekollemahlokwane - 2012-09-14 10:22

    Oh I thought is only Marikana protesters who carries pangas, knobbekeries, knives but lawyers also.....what's wrong with our society?

  • aj.oosthuizen.7 - 2012-09-14 10:30

    You sir, should be jailed on account for murder.. Some times I think that humans do not deserve to live on this planet. The animals have sinned nothing, but us, just look at what we are doing... makes me so sad.. :(

      abrie.greeff - 2012-09-14 11:37

      Murder? Did he kill the boy as well?

      abrie.greeff - 2012-09-14 11:39

      Murder? Did he kill the boy as well?

      aj.oosthuizen.7 - 2012-09-14 11:49

      Its murder, because killing any living being with only selfish intentions in mind (yes, killing that dog was selfish and inhumane) is murder. That dog did not do anything bad and that man scared that boy for life, so yes,he murdered that kids childhood.

  • betty.blue69 - 2012-09-14 10:45

    Give us the name of this useless piece of white trash who murdered the dog - he probable thinks cause he's an attorney he is above the law. My heart goes out to the little boy - he must be so traumatised and will be haunted by this for the rest of his life.

      jan.viljoen1 - 2012-09-14 10:52

      I see someone did post his details above.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-17 22:27

      https://www.facebook.com/Simsonvignons

  • carolyn.dewrance - 2012-09-14 10:51

    Have sent this story overses as well.

      carl.erler.5 - 2012-09-14 11:06

      To achieve ??? More sensationalism ?? Did you sent the http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Trio-guilty-of-gunning-down-grape-farmer-20120914 aswell ..... You must be so proud

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-14 12:48

      Carl. We did the same as my fathers dogs were largely exported and in great demand in Germany, Please tell me im seeking sensation.

      ronald.rantalot - 2012-09-15 10:35

      @CarolynDewrance what would you hope to achieve by doing this?

      meyer.schoeman - 2012-09-15 21:12

      ronald go troll somewhere else

  • bokkie.klokkie.3 - 2012-09-14 11:06

    What I cannot understand is why use a knife when you feel your dogs life is in danger. Surely a full grown man can pull the dogs apart with the help of the 2 boys. Why that reaction? We have people walking their dogs with a "skokstok" that is made for dogs so if your dog gets attacked it is the most human way to scare the other dog off. The poor kid who had to see his dog die in his arms.The man admitted he was wrong but still that was not suppose to be his reaction especially in front of kids. Why solve an issue like that with so much violence?

  • lyn.duplessis - 2012-09-14 11:09

    Hope this man was arrested!!!

  • michael.muller.7927 - 2012-09-14 11:28

    amazing how News24 deleted my comments.... shame. you okes can never tell the truth...

      abrie.greeff - 2012-09-14 11:32

      Always the same old. Sensationalism.

      abrie.greeff - 2012-09-14 11:32

      Always the same old. Sensationalism.

      louiseroger.higham - 2012-09-14 17:22

      How can the truth be different to what's reported? The dog was stabbed, why a knife and not a stick? Wake up or are u a moron like greef or worse his friend?

      ingi.raikes - 2012-09-17 20:00

      Ja Michael, l commented on three articles today and ALL have been deleted! Stuff you news24, your site was my web page, but no more! Good day!

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-17 22:27

      https://www.facebook.com/Simsonvignons

  • ludlowdj - 2012-09-14 11:29

    If this scumbag had of done it to one of my dogs he would have died at the same time.

      abrie.greeff - 2012-09-14 11:34

      And you spending your days in prison. They wil have their day in court.

      merven.halo - 2012-09-14 12:13

      @Abrie, somethings are worth going to jail for.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-14 13:10

      @ Abrie, ek hoop van harte jy is familie van Francois.

      meyer.schoeman - 2012-09-15 21:15

      Abrie, jy's 'n patetiese troll. Hou op om kommentaar te lewer op grootmensgoed waarvan jy niks verstaan nie.

  • maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-09-14 11:55

    What an A$$hole! Poor little kid.. And this behaviour from an educated lawyer? Such a beautiful animal too. I also want to come help chat to him!

  • makarapakaplan - 2012-09-14 12:16

    That's a lawyer for you. No doubt an arrogant nut case who thinks he a hot shot.

  • Antipoaching - 2012-09-14 12:20

    This Greeff character is seriously weird! Why was he carrying a knife? Hope this matter is reported to and investigated by relevant Law Society..... how the hell can this guy be trusted with anyones legal problems when he solves a minor doggie dispute with a knife?

  • beari.nel - 2012-09-14 13:14

    his dogs should be re-homed, he clearly should not be around any animals. I do not understand how that was self deference .... my heart goes out to the poor dogs family

  • audrey.vanderwath - 2012-09-14 13:26

    The Pig should die a horrible Cruel death. Hell is to good for him

      ronald.rantalot - 2012-09-15 10:39

      What???

  • richard.howes.982 - 2012-09-14 13:31

    This bastard deserves a slow death

      louiseroger.higham - 2012-09-14 17:25

      Who would give these comments a thumbs down? Can only be the dumb Greef or his family!

  • sandor.l.varga - 2012-09-14 15:09

    Please let me know his address !!!!!!!!one more rubbish lawyer....

      ronald.rantalot - 2012-09-15 10:40

      So you can do what with it?

  • christine.rohrbeckhall - 2012-09-14 15:10

    What a sick idiot!!! He should be locked up!!

  • celeste.naude.90 - 2012-09-14 15:35

    i hope he rots in hell!

  • louiseroger.higham - 2012-09-14 17:09

    Sounds pre meditated

  • esme.malan - 2012-09-14 18:47

    Julle witgepleisterde grafte!!!!\r\nHet julle altwee kante van die saak ondersoek voordat julle met die haatspraak begin het? \r\nEk het ‘n 11 maande oue standaard Franse poedel! Haar naam is Ame! Sy eet van my tafel af en slaap in my bed! 2 maande terug het ons gaan hardloop en n pitbull sonder ‘n halsband het haar in ‘n openbare straat aangeval! Ek moes skreeuend staan en kyk hoe die hond Ame flenters byt! Ame leef danksy twee mans in ‘n bakkie wat kom ingryp het! Ek sal ook in die toekoms met ‘n mes hardloop want ek is so lief, of liewer vir Ame soos wat Aiden vir sy hond was.\r\n\r\nJulle smul aan die patetiese, eensydige, opgesweepte, georkestreerde joernalistiek! Die haatspraak verstrik julle eie harte! Julle probeer ‘n man, sy reputasie en sy besigheid ruineer en verkleineer! Met net een kant van die saak! Maar julle eie siele is te vrot om skaam te kry vir julle gedrag!\r\nHet julle met mnr Greeff gepraat ? Het julle die storie van die klaers getoets vir egtheid ? Het julle gevra of daar dalk kameras was wat die waarheid op beeld het? Het julle een vinger versit om objektief na die waarheid te soek? Sou julle gelukkig gewees het as twee klein hondjies dood of beseer was? Sou julle nog so boehaai opgeskop het?\r\n\r\nMy hond is my kind – ek sal haar met my lewe beskerm – sou jy nie? Is dit verantwoordelik om ‘n kind te laat stap met ‘n hond wat die kind kan rondsleep? Watter soort Pa laat dit toe, en blameer ‘n man wat sy eie honde beskerm? \r\nHet jy die anderkant ondersoek of is jy die slaaf van swak voorblad joernalistiek?\r\n\r\nMerke, gereed, gooi julle klippe … julle gaan elkeen nog kou!!!

      jan.viljoen1 - 2012-09-14 19:37

      Jy maak verkeerdelik die aname dat Simson aangeval het. Hy het nie. Daar is ook inkriminerende CCTV materiaal teen hom. Sy aksies was nie geregverdig deur die omstandigede nie en hy het verskeie gekeenthede om sy kant van die saak te stel van die hand gewys. Dink bietjie logies; wat is die normale eerste reaksie? Skop en slaan - nie mes uithaal en doodsteek nie. Daar is nie een bytmerk aan hom of sy honde nie - Simson het het nie aangeval nie. Ook, waarom dadelik die twee seuntjies met die ernstig gewonde hond agterlaat en wegstorm so gou hy kan? Wat die sogenaamde haatspraak betref; dit is ongelukkig nou maar die gevolge van sy aksies en hy moes dit in ag geneem het vor hy opgetree het soos wat hy het.

      willie.viljoen.33 - 2012-09-14 23:38

      So jy het toe gekyk hoe jou hond gebyt word? 1 byt maak nie 'n hond dood nie so as die honde wegin byt het is dit 'n ander saak....nog niemet n mes nie maar dalk 'n skok stok of peper gas.

      LanfearM - 2012-09-15 12:12

      Ag asseblief esme.malan! Hou tog net op met rant en rave! Is jy dalk liewe Francoistjie se vrou of suster of vriendin? Ek geen nie 'n donner om selfs as die hond sy honde probeer byt het [wat hulle nie gedoen het nie! geen bytmerke bewys dit!]. Dit was nie nodig om 'n mes uit te ruk en die hond dood te steek nie. Ek stap met 'n skokstok [vir honde] of pepper spray om myself en my hond teen ander honde en skurklike mense te verdedig. Wat as hy die kind raakgesteek het? Dan sou jy 'n ander storie gesing het nê.

  • gerda.smit.94 - 2012-09-14 19:12

    What if the boy decided to protect his dog, and had gotten in the way of the knife. Mr laywer clearly was not thinking...

  • larn.cronje - 2012-09-15 03:09

    now lets see if justice works for those who often manipulate the law to their own end