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Private cars may be barred from Jhb CBD

2011-09-10 14:15

Johannesburg - The Johannesburg metro was considering prohibiting private cars from certain parts of the city centre, according to a news report on Saturday.

According to the Beeld newspaper, mayoral committee member for transport Rehana Moosajee said on Friday that a local law amendment should be tabled soon to reserve certain parts of the city centre for public transport.

This would counter traffic congestion and pollution.

She gave motorists the assurance that safe and reliable public transport would be available.

Commuters would also be encouraged to use bicycles and motorcycles.

Proposals to establish special lanes for bicycles in the city centre were already under consideration.

Metro executive director of transport Lisa Seftal said the streets were for all road uses and there had to be a balance.

"Streets must be safe and pedestrians and bicycles should be encouraged. The number of private vehicles in the city centre must be restricted," she said.

Seftel said the transport system in Johannesburg was deteriorating.

There was minimal co-ordination between local, provincial and national departments.

In addition there were unbalanced subsidies and a lack of labour stability.

Broken traffic lights and neglected pavement were also challenges, Seftel said.

Also speaking at the transport indaba, Flora Mokgohloa, head of Johannesburg department of environmental management, said "green lungs" - such as parks where vehicles were forbidden - would be developed.

Comments
  • Colin - 2011-09-10 14:28

    quick send a hat around for donations so we can buy them some brains

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-10 15:00

      how about barring protests from the CBD,and taxis....that will make it safer

      Shadoz - 2011-09-10 15:35

      wahahaha hope you people that work in jhb cbd enjoy the smells of the itaxi.

      end of earth - 2011-09-10 17:38

      colin do not be such a pessimist,all is not lost ,some of us have brains that are functional while some with a single brain find it difficult to think, & those who do think do not always think wisely, so be selective in commenting

  • Neil - 2011-09-10 14:29

    Thats the biggest joke this week ! Safe and reliable ? When has anything in SA ever been safe and reliable ? Its darkest Africa ! Nothing works !

      zaatheist - 2011-09-10 16:07

      QMarco Adding insulting invective to your comment simply destroys your position and reflects poorly upon you.

      Epicurius - 2011-09-10 16:28

      Now now Marco, use your words as communication tools, not as weapons. When you do choose to use strong language, you would do well to avoid mixing the grown up naughty words and the nursery school naughty words e.g. fartbrain. Phrases such as 'You f***ing motherf***ing poopyhead' simply lack the required clout, don't you think?

      Colin - 2011-09-10 16:46

      funny how liberals like marco always throws insults around when facts don't match their delusions, wake up marco, sa is broken and unlikely to be fixed soon

      Bettie - 2011-09-10 17:01

      Look, I love our Country, and I prefer to stay here (in Cape Town) rather than in London or New York. Sometimes the Government tries and make good decisions, and sometimes we (as the public) can foresee the outcome, or even predict it, with our negativities. I respect the Government's input in helping reduce carbon footprints, pollution and the likes. But there is a road to follow. You can't just plant flowers before making the garden. Same applies to what they are trying to do. First try and look at the quality of public transport, and pedestrian safety, before forcing everyone to conform to new rules. That way the public will be more assured, and we will not predict a negative outcome with our negative views. #justmy5cents

      DW - 2011-09-10 18:20

      I think it is a good and honorable thing to want to do, but I somehow doubt that it will be successful. This will mean having parking zones outside the CBD with busses and taxis picking pedestrians up to transport them through the zone. Crime is too high. You are not safe with a handbag, computer bag, jewellery etc. How can you be expected to climb out of your car, climb onto public transport, climb back out and walk the street to your workplace whilst carrying these valuables. If they cannot ensure that people are safe in the streets (not only in the public transport), this system cannot work

  • Brett Scheepers - 2011-09-10 14:33

    This has worked in Europe where the public transport is very good.In SA they need to improve the public transport and give incentives to get people on bicycles.I use my bicycle as transport as i get a 25% reduction on my car tax and 30% reduction on bicycle and spares.Let's see how the taxis handle this idea!!!

      tryanything - 2011-09-11 06:39

      And the bikes??? Brett we are in africa not Norway or Sweden. Bicycles will have to be gazetted as non recyclable as they will end up with all the manhole covers

  • Ho Hum@24.com - 2011-09-10 14:38

    Is this not to prevent the ANC cadres from stealing the cars..?

  • Captainmorgan - 2011-09-10 14:41

    No worries we can just use the Tube ....................oops sorry wrong continent

  • Woofix - 2011-09-10 14:46

    Good intensions, unpractical programs, not able to implement or maintain it sucessfully. . . .as ussual.

  • Welleducated - 2011-09-10 14:48

    "public cars" - I assume ministers would be excluded from this "convenient use of public transport"?

  • burtfred - 2011-09-10 14:49

    And where will we safely park our bicycles so they won't be stolen?

      lean - 2011-09-10 15:06

      No you will be completely unprotected + bicycles hijacking... What Could Be Bloody Better)))

      DW - 2011-09-10 18:59

      Not a problem. The whole dream of reviving the CBD will die. No bank, legal firm, large corporate will move their company to the CBD if their customers cannot safely reach them. They will all move to Sandton - or Cape Town!

  • logical007 - 2011-09-10 15:05

    You won't need to park your bike for it to be stolen - it will be stolen while you are riding . Ask many cyclists who have been hijacked on their normal training days. As for public transport another white elephant that will cost tax payers money??? If it was April the 1st I would say this must be a joke!

      tryanything - 2011-09-11 06:41

      I also checked the Date and Month (Seriously)....

  • Zion - 2011-09-10 15:12

    What will the exclusions be Governmental vehicles, taxis, municipal busses, police and emergency services vehicles. and a massive cost to the commuter who will have to fork out again for trips into the CBD. this whole issue will turn into a money making racket at the expense of the public. Keep the taxis out and there will be the usual riots and actions. taxis will return and make a killing due to little other vehicles.

  • Zion - 2011-09-10 15:13

    What will the exclusions be Governmental vehicles, taxis, municipal busses, police and emergency services vehicles. and a massive cost to the commuter who will have to fork out again for trips into the CBD. this whole issue will turn into a money making racket at the expense of the public. Keep the taxis out and there will be the usual riots and actions. taxis will return and make a killing due to little other vehicles.

      deejojo - 2011-09-10 15:26

      and then according to todays Saturday Star there is the proposed new tax should you live near a transport route.... so you cant use your car and u must pay a penalty tax so you can live near a bus route? haha

  • deejojo - 2011-09-10 15:24

    And how do we stop our bikes from getting stolen?

  • Cde Lokhunja - 2011-09-10 15:34

    This is progressive.

      gatvol4corru - 2011-09-10 18:13

      eish,you think?

  • stuart.steedman - 2011-09-10 15:39

    And now we can watch the CBD become more of an unproductive economic black hole. All this means is that the people with the money (who own cars) will do their business elsewhere, and the CBD can be left to the ANC to turn it further into a stinking cesspool. Progress, Africa-style!

  • Banned - 2011-09-10 15:41

    Ya right, I think someone who has a huge investment in the Gautrain and the RBT really really wants to get private cars out. Those roads were funded by the rates payers of the Joburg, you dont have the right to deny us fair usage!

      tryanything - 2011-09-11 06:47

      Still cant understand why a high speed train cannot be implemented to Soweto.....

  • marco - 2011-09-10 16:05

    Why don't Joburg's CBD Authorities get the Congestion Charge System like they have here in London?It was introduce to reduce congestion in the city,and at the same time raise investment funds for London's transport system.Even elsewhere in Europe like Stockholm for example an experimental short-term congestion charge system saw an average 25% reduction in traffic numbers for that city.

      Epicurius - 2011-09-10 16:17

      Last thing we need is another means for the Joburg Metro to make money for nuthin'. Unlike the UK, where politicians have been known to resign for submitting falsified expense claims, here in SA such funds would not likely find their way to the transport system and would most probably end up being misappropriated.

      Grant - 2011-09-10 20:46

      @marco, living in London for as long as you have has rendered you completely out of touch with the reality of the SA situation on the ground. You can't rely totally on news24 reports for your picture of the country.

  • thabo.tebele - 2011-09-10 16:06

    If there will be any safe reliable public transport there will not be a need to ban any private cars in the cbd as most people will use it.

      Sean - 2012-01-09 10:31

      There is no such thing as "safe and reliable" in SA anymore!!

  • FpeT - 2011-09-10 16:11

    I love the idea:) Now all the big, fat, rich CEO's might get some exercise in and live past their children's 18th birthdays!

  • nitesh.khoosal - 2011-09-10 16:19

    get a life rehaaaanaaaaa, do u even know the cbd??????

  • bigT - 2011-09-10 16:21

    So how long have the bus drivers been on strike for their salaries to be tripled?. Reliable yeah right, imagine the demands when you are holding the whole city to ransom!.

  • Old EagleEye - 2011-09-10 16:33

    Never fear-it'll NEVER happen!They can't even handle the Metro Utility Accounts, never mind everything else. Cloud 9?

  • RVQ - 2011-09-10 16:58

    Transportation in is slowly turning into a nightmare with tolling now restrictions to areas, more companies need to start embracing technology and start implementing work from home

  • Malcolm - 2011-09-10 17:38

    I wonder if the Joburg traffic dept will patrol on bicycles ? That will get some fat off their arses.

      tryanything - 2011-09-11 06:43

      Bikes with wide saddles....

      Martin - 2012-01-09 14:24

      its gonna be bikes with park benches for seats

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-09-10 18:12

    between juju's clowns and the poor condition of JHB,I vote for this. Simply,because it is part of Nigeria already. won't go there again. juju messed it up,let him keep it

  • Babba x - 2011-09-10 18:59

    you wil have to park at specific areas, paying parking fees. Then you will have to make use of public transport, paying more money. This has nothing to do with traffic but eveything to do with milking the working class more. Wonder what's going to happen to visiting your client

      tryanything - 2011-09-11 06:51

      Most of my Clients have moved out of CBD...I have two left there..They organise me parking in their building when I visit....They are Moving to Rand burg soon......then I have absolutely No reason to go into the CBD.

      Sean - 2012-01-09 10:41

      E-mail and video-conferencing is the way to go and is a lot safer, providing your private and confidential info is not intercepted by the Nigerian cartells committing identity theft/money laundering etc.......

  • Craig - 2011-09-10 20:10

    Yaaaasisss... And just how safe will it be for a white dude to be peddling a bicycle through the JoBurg CBD... Reliable public transport...???

  • hafezhamza - 2011-09-10 20:27

    this is nuts!

  • hakkelberry finn - 2011-09-10 20:33

    i just returned form munich germany and that works brilliantly there. it might work here. was amazing how efficient there public transport workes

      tryanything - 2011-09-11 06:45

      This is Africa.........Most bikes will end up at the cash for scrap places before the paint dries on them.

  • Shrike - 2011-09-10 21:00

    I would not go there anyways.....the CBD sux! Although I wonder how all the expensive consultants will get to Work and keep the parastatals running?

  • Dave - 2011-09-10 21:33

    Ban private cars from the toll roads and you make grab my interest

  • JohnPicarra - 2011-09-10 22:28

    This is another example of the mentally chanllenged authorities stealing benefits from the taxpayers whom pay for their-gov inflated salaries. It is the private car drivers that pay licenses, income taxes, vat, municipal water, lights, rates, taxes, petrol taxes, which are used to build the public roads. But now these roads get reserved for municipal or taxi use, while the area for private use are reduced. Now the privates pay more tolls, while the buses and taxis do not. Like I said: mentally challenged!

  • JohnPicarra - 2011-09-10 22:31

    Did you notice all the A Abortion N Murder C Genocide cars parked in the bus lane?

  • CyberDog - 2011-09-10 22:53

    Wait, wait, someone remind me again, is this democracy, or a banana republic .... Just make random laws up as you go along without even doing any research or assessing the impacts ....The ANC should be banned from the CBD they have done more damage there than any cars... Besides, since when do the JHB metro decide what laws they can make up or not ? Here comes the "draconian rules to quell the archaism distributed" part of the Marxist textbook. Buckle the seat belts Toto, this is where the drive starts getting bumpy ...

  • Joachin01 - 2011-09-11 07:25

    So re-assuring to see all the positive comments. I'm also so glad Edison did not listen to these kind of comments, who knows, we might still have been without the light bulb? Come on, people, we need to start somewhere. Don't just criticise, become part of the solution. What are you going to do to help with the traffic situation in Joh'burg's CBD?

      Sean - 2012-01-09 10:48

      Let me remind all that already there is insufficient parking in the JHB central area in the first place, where on earth are businessmen supposed to park now and what decent, safe, clean, reliable public (runs on time) transport is available???

  • Nikki - 2011-09-11 08:02

    "Commuters would also be encouraged to use bicycles and motorcycles" HA-HA-HA-HA! So that we can have a taxis mow us down like easy targets? Yeah that's well thought through there...

  • Lab-Rat - 2011-09-11 08:25

    Oh my. It's very embarrassing to be a South African at the moment.

  • Collitjies - 2011-09-11 09:55

    Safe and reliable public transport = "mini bus taxis"= mobile death traps. Special cycle lanes?? mini bus taxis already use emergency lanes so how many cyclists will be killed on a daily basis. Are the share holders in this hair brained scheme all undertakers???

  • Adrian - 2011-09-11 12:36

    this is awesome;. u truely think we need a public tansport fixed.. yes we have plenty of issues. like the bicycle lane would end being used by the taxi's(have their law for the road).but stay positive... this is a good thing

  • Megan - 2011-09-11 14:03

    This country amazes me... First we charge tolls on roads that we are already taxed for, then we are banned from roads that we have already paid for... the mind boggles.... And wow we would be so safe on a bike of any sorts with our laptops, wallets and cell phones, am sure no one would ever mug us in JHB

  • Gary Jurgens - 2011-09-11 16:03

    no more car guards bicycle guards

      Sean - 2012-01-09 10:56

      these so-called car-wathers never see anything anyway when an incident occurs - people are brainwashed to think that car-watchers really "look after" your vehicle. I speak of experience! What a racket they are and people fall for it! :) it's all about money - they don't care hoot about the safety of your vehicle. Do you really think that they will be willing to provide witness reports in court?

  • Agent - 2011-09-12 07:02

    Who the hell still goes into JHB have not been there for more than n year, it is a filthy mess.

  • Sean - 2012-01-09 10:06

    Fortunately I have lost nothing there, you would never find me there so they can change the bylaws as much as theywant. Enjoy your city centre!

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