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Protect SA drug mule's rights - DA

2011-12-14 15:57

Johannesburg - International Relations Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane must ensure that the human rights of alleged drug mule Nolubabalo Nobanda are protected while she is in jail in Thailand, the Democratic Alliance said on Wednesday.

"The DA will be closely monitoring this situation and how it is handled by the Zuma government," said DA MP Stevens Mokgalapa in a statement.

"I will be writing to Nkoana-Mashabane to determine what the department is doing to ensure Ms Nobanda's well being."

Nobanda was arrested in Thailand this week for hiding cocaine in her dreadlocks. The 23-year-old was searched on Monday when police noticed a white substance in her hair shortly after she stepped off a Qatar Airways flight.

Police found 1.5kg of cocaine with an estimated street value of $150 000 (R1.2m) hidden in her dreadlocks.

She admitted to smuggling the drugs and said she was hired to deliver the cocaine to a customer at a Bangkok hotel.

Mokgalapa said Monday's execution of Janice Linden by Chinese authorities raised serious questions about whether South African authorities did all they could to protect her rights.

Linden was executed by lethal injection after being caught with three kilograms of crystal methamphetamine (tik) in her luggage.

"Whilst drug offenders deserve to be punished their basic rights should not be violated," he said.

"Our government must do all it can to ensure that the basic rights of all South Africans, whether at home or abroad, are protected at all times." Mokgalapa explained that the department of international relations, under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, was obliged to offer assistance to Nobanda and her family.

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They were meant to establish contact with Nobanda and ensure she understood her rights, and the services that could be provided by the South African government.

The department had to further provide general information to Nobanda and her family about Thailand's legal system, bail and appeal procedures.

Mokgalapa said the ministry was supposed to maintain contact with Nobanda, undertake prison visits and contact a maximum of three of her family members or friends.

"Minister Nkoana-Mashabane must explain which of these steps have been acted on by her department thus far," he said.

"She must also provide information about the steps her department will be taking to monitor Ms Nobanda welfare while she is imprisoned."

Comments
  • planetdonovan - 2011-12-14 16:06

    please insert your pro-death penalty comments below...

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-14 16:12

      You've got mine. And I think it is ridiculous of the DA to even think about a stupid move like this. What message are they sending out? Just because drug trading isn't prosecuted here, doesn't mean the rest of the world should condone criminals!

      Jack - 2011-12-14 16:20

      A person whom has been proven guilty of breaking the law shouldn’t be allowed any rights!!! What kind of punishment is that!! This should be an example to all would be criminals, Do it at your own peril. Fuking DA and it's human rights!!! Those drugs are all liked to the under world , people whom kill, steal, extort, rape you name it.

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-14 16:22

      @Bhubesi drugs are like prostitution, the oldest trade in the world, u will never eradicate this unless ur naive. The world should follow the Dutch system.

      owamin1 - 2011-12-14 16:25

      @Ibhubesi - protecting a person's human rights does not condone criminal behaviour. It is funny how people believe in the principles of demoncracy and protection of human rights when it suits them. Every person in the world is protected under the "Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment" - whatever crime they have committed. A drug mule is no different.

      goyougoodthing - 2011-12-14 16:32

      WHy is the DA getting into this? If they spend one cent of my tax money on helping drug dealer then I refuse to pay tax. I personally think all things should be legal and freedom of choice is up to the individual. However I can't place parity between say freedom of speech and trafficking narcotics which will kill people. The law in this case has (kind of) valid reasons to make it illegal and you should know what the penalties are before you go. If you don't then that's not very bright. It's your life FFS.

      Kevin - 2011-12-14 16:34

      i sure do miss the MALEMA stories way more intersting than all these drug stories

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-14 16:51

      @owamin1. I take great exception to your comment: "It is funny how people believe in the principles of democracy and protection of human rights when it suits them" You can't possibly have kids and say a stupid thing like this to me. What rights of a drug dealer do you want to protect? And don't make assumptions about me and what I think about the constitution when you don't know me personally. Maybe it is because of this wonderful constitution of ours that we have kids being raped and people being killed all over the place. Are you condoning murder? I'm sure not, so then don't question my beliefs on an eye for an eye. If you kill, you should be take the same medicine.

      owamin1 - 2011-12-14 17:04

      @Ibhubesi - you can take exception all you like. Call me stupid & any other name if it makes your day. The point of the matter is if we enjoy the benefits of living in a world where we can exercise our demicratic rights, including the right to be tried fairly in a court of law (as opposed to the court of public opinion), then we must understand that those rights are enjoyed by anyone - whatever crime they have allegedly committed. If that crime has been committed on foreign soil, the embassy of the mother country has an obligation to ensure that their citizen is tried fairly in the court of law. That is just how the world works. Just because you think that is stupid does not make it so. Thankfully. Also, you are most welcome to believe in eye for eye - in the same way that you enjoy freedom of speech and call people stupid because they disagree with you. However, the world you live in is not an eye-for-an-eye world.

      Steenbra - 2011-12-14 17:14

      And mine... and I think the DA is losing it on this one.. only one way to deal with thugs and dealers. Negotiations with these types have never and will never work.

      The Real Unskinny - 2011-12-14 17:32

      Please focus your energy on LAW ABIDING citizens DA. Criminals, who consciously deny others of their human rights, shouldn't have human rights.

      Dave - 2011-12-14 20:50

      The DA and I part company on this. My philosophy is that ANYONE involved in the supply chain of drugs should be exterminated. If needs be, I will inject, pull the trigger, or open the trapdoor.

      Gary - 2011-12-14 23:14

      I'm pro-DA, but anti- human rights. If you stuff up in someone's backyard, pay the price! Don't cry FOUL when caught, pay the price. If it's death penalty, fine. Ever noticed that those caught need sympathy? I say: HANG THEM HIGH!

      Jerhone - 2011-12-15 07:48

      whats the point of protecting her rights did she protect her drug victims rights to live, OFF WITH HER HEAD

      Mike - 2011-12-16 15:57

      @Owamin1, Ibhubesi is not the most tolerate person, he goes into attack mode quite quick, just read some of other comments on News24. See one reason why we do not have the death penalty, can you think if his kind was in justice how easily he would have had your head for disagreeing with him.

  • Azande - 2011-12-14 16:07

    There you go. DA again. I love this country.

      MoAfrika - 2011-12-14 16:09

      does it get any better???

  • PeggySven - 2011-12-14 16:07

    Those that help spread death and misery through smuggling drugs, when caught red-handed, as she was, should be strung up from the nearest lamp-post. F*#K her so called Human Rights.

      jowza1 - 2011-12-14 16:12

      yes.the da lost the plot with this one

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-14 16:19

      U need brain examination incase you hve brain c··········ncr. These ar just vulnerable foot soldiers, exploited fir being poor and you know that. Why would make such harsh comments. In drugs trade both the supplier and the consumer ar wrong!

      jowza1 - 2011-12-14 16:21

      who you talking to?the whole cosmos?

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-14 16:27

      Peggysven

      Jerhone - 2011-12-15 08:01

      @Cosmos pray tell whats poor about being able to attend university

      George - 2011-12-15 10:05

      Had this person not being cought and got away with the drugs, these drugs would have been sold at a huge profit and gorn into her pocket, and I bet it would not declared to the IRS, or part of the profits be given to a drug rehab center. Sit in jail and rot you BITCH

      carolyn.dewrance - 2011-12-15 10:08

      Agree with you Sven, she went there with the intention to sell the drugs, that would possibly have killed many people, and for this I would call it murder. She deserves everything she gets, even the leathal injection.

      Sean - 2011-12-16 00:39

      @Cosmos O'Ndebele - Exploit se moer ! She must get punished ! If you want to talk about exploitation , look no further than the ANC !

  • lunghile.ndleve - 2011-12-14 16:08

    Right, rights, rights!!!! That's why our justice system is so rotten, to many rights to criminals...And as soon as you famous/well known you are king!!!!!!! There are many South Africans whose trials were not under the spotlight and were given heavy sentences sometimes for crimes not fitting the punishment. So stop with rights for criminals and let every one who commits a crime suffer accordingly, why xud other families suffer more than others!!!!

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-14 16:14

      Salute you my Brother. Enough of the criminals now! Enough of protecting these people who are destroying the kids of our country.

      Oceanh - 2011-12-14 16:24

      i agree that convicted crimals should not have the same rights and normal citizens, ie voting etc. However what the DA is saying is that she is entitled to a fair and just trail, it is writen in our constitution. We cannot pick and choose what parts of the constitution we would to adhere to.

      Hugh - 2011-12-14 16:54

      Shes not in SA so our contitution doesnt count for turd. She broke another counties laws and will be tried accordingly. No nice prison cells there either. She just kissed her life away.

      Oceanh - 2011-12-14 17:47

      @Huge, she is a South African citizen, she is entitled a fair trail, and it is South Africa's duty to ensure this occurs. The constitution is for all South African citizens regardless of where they are. These are the facts. I am by no means condoning what she has done, merely stating that she is entitled to a fair trail and has rights, until convicted.

      Ian - 2011-12-15 06:38

      @Oceanh - She admitted to being HIRED. not being forced/coerced to do it. SHE CHOSE IT AND SHE ADMITTED IT. <----- i.e I did it, i wanted to and i got paid for it. Its my view that the trial in question will simply be a formality in order to put her sentence on paper, basically just an admin process.

  • Kevin - 2011-12-14 16:08

    DA, don't you now go and be stupid. What rights does a criminal have. Please remember they are accessories to death and destruction.

  • RSole - 2011-12-14 16:10

    What is it with all the sympathy for drug mules. Next they're going to have a benefit concert to raise funds for legal defense. Let’s worry about the human rights issues in our own country before we worry about drug mules in other countries.

  • Larry - 2011-12-14 16:12

    WHat rights? She deserves the full monty of Thai Law. These Scum do not deserve any rights,

  • Martin - 2011-12-14 16:12

    Sorry DA when you turn to crime you loose all your rights. DO THE CRIME DO THE TIME !!!

  • Poloyatonki - 2011-12-14 16:13

    Why does DA even care, JZ doesnt care...

      maniza.ahoua - 2011-12-15 06:54

      DID ZUMA SEND HER TO DEAL WITH DRUGS, USE YOUR UPSTAIRS, FOR DA IT IS ABOUT VOTES, WE ARE TIRED OF MODEL C

      Jason - 2011-12-15 14:35

      Yes Poloniwanka, the problem is JZ doesnt care, and nore does anyone in Parliament care - about anyone in S.A. so what now - what now?? idiotic comment if you ask me.. TWAT!!

  • cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-14 16:14

    Yee parading her on TV & Youtube is very sick on the part of Thai authorities. That wont happen in Europe

      jowza1 - 2011-12-14 16:27

      she is in thailand and not europe,and guess what.she is going to get the death penalty

      blakat - 2011-12-14 16:41

      It's not sick, they want the world to see exactly what happened, openly and honestly.

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-14 17:07

      We should introduce death sentence for Rhino poaching & horn smuggling. These asians ar no smarter than us.

      Jerhone - 2011-12-15 08:10

      the showing and parading in all forms of media is a great concept it informs and makes sure others don't make the same mistake they should do that here in SA even show the execution to the public

  • Ben - 2011-12-14 16:15

    If the Government is unable to accord citizens the right of safety in their own homes, why, if they commit crime would they be able to so to the criminal.

  • Oceanh - 2011-12-14 16:16

    Regardless of her crime, She is a South African citizen and her rights, ie to a fair trail, are not to be violated. We are not her judge and jury, she will have her day in court. It is a very slippery slope, when any citizens rights are in danger of being violated.

      jowza1 - 2011-12-14 16:24

      the stuff was in her hair.she confessed.she has a right to go straight to jail

      John - 2011-12-14 16:26

      Very well said...

      Gregory Jurgens - 2011-12-14 16:34

      Guilty. Kill her . Let her family visit for 45 minutes . Then do her in.

      Oceanh - 2011-12-14 17:40

      in this case, yes she is guilty, she has confessed. However if our government turns their back on its citizens rights, and allow "kangaroo court justice", where will it end. more and more of our citizens regardless of whether they are guilty or not will face the same fate. Let the court and justice system sentence her. We as a society seem all to eager for blood and death, read some of the above comments

      Ian - 2011-12-15 06:43

      Oceanh - If it is their law that she should be executed then so be it. It is right and proper for the RSA government to ensure she has a fair trial, but after admitting guilt, HOW ON EARTH CAN THE TRIAL BE UNFAIR? <-- There's no NEED for the RSA government to get overly involved in the case, yes facilitate communications between her and her family, but beyond that - You do the crime, you do the time.

      Jerhone - 2011-12-15 08:16

      Oceanh if you have you lost any loved ones to drug addiction i doubt you'll sing the same tune

  • planetdonovan - 2011-12-14 16:19

    drug mules are often desperate addicts and while they deserve to be punished, they are not the smuggling and dealing masterminds.

      maniza.ahoua - 2011-12-15 06:50

      AGREE, THEY NEED TO GET THE MASTERMIND HOW MANY KIDS WILL DIE BECAUSE OF THESE PEOPLE

  • Slapper - 2011-12-14 16:21

    Classic case of the criminal having more rights than the law abiding citizen! Who is shouting and checking to see if our rights are not being infringed upon by the lack of safety and security in this country?

  • David - 2011-12-14 16:21

    The human rights they mention are likely basic stuff against torture, not being given good in prison, execution/prison time without a court case etc. If she goes to court and they find her guilty and execute her as part of that country's law then thats the way it goes. The basic human rights that are offered to criminals are what differentiates the rule of law from basic 'grab a knife and stab them in the face' revenge.

      David - 2011-12-14 16:23

      replace 'good' with 'food' in prison. The typo is kind of double entendre.

      Jerhone - 2011-12-15 08:22

      so how come victims who are torchered before they are killed in everyday society have no rights but drug dealers and mules have?

  • Philisiwe Msomi - 2011-12-14 16:21

    for heavens sake DA monitoring the situations of Zuma govt even whe u shouldn't makes you pathetic, comeon...seems like u getting desperate. Dnt u have better things to do with yourtime.instead of watching zuma do your job so u can get more votes next time...monitoring zuma wont get u votes!!

      tienie.vorster1 - 2011-12-14 17:00

      Who is talking about zuma you

      Philisiwe Msomi - 2011-12-14 17:01

      sharon dear!! U missing da point, whether anc or azapo it doesnt matter on this case,a woman s guilty n must face da consequences,zuma n da must stay out of it

      owamin1 - 2011-12-14 17:06

      you are not making any sense. delete the comment and start again.

      maniza.ahoua - 2011-12-15 06:49

      TELL THEM GAL, DA GOT NOTHING TO DO, SHE IS GUILTY AND SHE MUST FACE THE MUSIC

      Jason - 2011-12-15 14:48

      Philisiwe Msomi - it seems JZ and his Comrades arent doing their jobs, hence the DA Stepping in and asking all the questions, lets be honest and ask ourselves the following: what the effing hell has the ANC done or achieved in the last 10-15 Years?? Yip thats what I thought- a big fat Zero - irrespective of the crime committed, a person does have basic rights which need to be protected, BUT let me guess you didnt know this!! Your pathetic.

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-12-14 16:23

    She sacrificed her rights as a moral person. She admits she is guilty . So get on with it , kill her.

  • The-third - 2011-12-14 16:24

    What rights? You know the law. that's that.

  • Deon - 2011-12-14 16:25

    This is a good lesson for criminals, don't do it or you may lose your head.

  • Hans - 2011-12-14 16:29

    The DA,s breath stinks like bollie

  • cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-14 16:30

    NOW I UNDERSTANS WHY SOUTH AFRICA HAS VIOLENT CRIME. MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE PRO-DEATH

      Mike - 2011-12-14 17:02

      Well spotted Cosmos, criminals are always a mirror of the society from whence they come, and we probably have the highest levels of bloodlust in SA. Everybody bleating on about the poor families who take drugs. You would thing drug addicted people are forced at gunpoint to take drugs. Accountability scores a zero all round. Why don't we mete out the same vitriol towards purveyors of alcohol which of course destroy more families world wide and is the greatest source of fatal motor vehicle accidents. No one forces you to imbibe alcohol, smoke cigarettes( greatest killer of all) or take drugs. People with addictions will simply move to other products to get their rush. The amount of self-righteous comments could sink a battle cruiser.

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-14 17:12

      @Danieldennett you are one of those silent heroes. Death sentence is too much in S.A people s mouths, it becomes a normal thing. Nobody is forced into drugs, they buy them with their own money.

      Mike - 2011-12-14 17:40

      Cosmos we need to be grateful for our constitution as it definitely transcends the current moral values being eschewed by many and that is why a constitution is there for for those not yet born and must be protected with our lives if we care about our future generation. Due process and the rule of law must prevail at all costs as it is the cornerstone of our security and democracy. There is a good reason why the death penalty is abhorrent to our constitution. I think mass hysteria is abundant on this topic and seldom addresses the entire spectrum of issues involved.

      Ian - 2011-12-15 06:51

      @DanielDennett - Ultimately the constitution should protect Law Abiding citizens, and deal harshly with people who break the Law. You say the Constitution is there to protect the future generations, however, there won't be future generations if you get gunned down in your home on your farm for example. How can you allow someone rights if they choose, not accidentally, but actively CHOOSE to disregard another's rights? The Death Penalty is an extreme method of enforcing the Law and, if wielded accurately, one of the most effective methods.

  • Sharon - 2011-12-14 16:31

    She gave away her rights when she committed the crime ..........sorry. That she also apply to people in jail........they should have no rights

      tienie.vorster1 - 2011-12-14 17:04

      The anc will lose to many votes

  • HermannH - 2011-12-14 16:31

    Me thinks the DA is busy losing the plot. Good heavens if they are in power they will have as much power to influence foreign governments as the ANC and that is no power when we deal with the far East and South America. Come 2014 I may not give them my vote again if they continue with their imbecilic attitude. This is what you get when the inexperienced are given a say - frightening is it not.

  • tony.calitz - 2011-12-14 16:31

    I would usually support the DA, but this is ridiculous - drug mules are assiting drug lords to ruin the lives and kill millions of people - they don't DESERVE an rights. Throw them into a rat-infested hole in the ground & leave them to rot. Seriously - has the DA official NEVER seen the rat-holes that many drug addicts "live" in?? If the SA government tries to intervene in the affairs of other countries that happen to have strictly enforceable drug laws in place, then (a) they're virtually endorsing the criminal activity of SA drug mules & (b) they should do so in Zimbabwe as well because there human rights are being flouted daily and that despot Mugabe is treating both his own AND SA citizens without ANY regard for human rights.

  • Susanna - 2011-12-14 16:32

    Notice for the protection of drug mules: Don't ever transport less than 5 kilos of cocaine/meth/heroine; the bigger the quantity, the more security that your bosses will have effective decoys with 1,5 kilos or less on the same flight as yourself. (Of course you will never know who these decoys are as they themselves are not aware of being the decoy) Should a package rupture in your possession, sprinkle the remaining product in the package all over the plane whilst everyone is sleeping. As passengers depart they will all have the scent on them and the authorities will think their sniffer dogs are not performing well that day. (Please don't be the fist to step of the plane) Don't ever inform your bosses you want to quit, as you are opting for the position of decoy. Merely "disappear"

      ilze.stock - 2011-12-14 16:47

      Nice Susanna. Give criminals advice on how not to get caught. Should have you arrested!

      Aijaman - 2011-12-14 16:48

      Susanna please don't tell us about the tricks. We less interested!!!!In all these tricks that you are telling us about. Have thought about the parents of these kids?Parents are the ones who suffer more. Drug trafficking should be stopped at all cost. I blame South African government on this. Government knows that we got quite a high nummber of drug mules but they are doing nothing to fight that...Clearly these nigerians are playing a big role in this.

      Susanna - 2011-12-15 22:44

      Kindly contact the DA office no (021) *** **** for further assistance.

      Susanna - 2011-12-15 23:20

      I see I am not good at sarcasm... Destroy the demand by giving clean heroine etc for free at government clinics. No sensible businessman will dream of smuggling drugs into a country where it will not be paid for. Provide the addicts with free, clean syringes etc. to prevent the transmission of AIDS and other diseases. Because addicts will come forward for their free dosages, (1) one can offer them the treatment they really need for the underlying problems such as rape counselling/depression etc (2) levels of crime and violence will drop (3) the government will save money on not incarcerating addicts for the crimes they would have committed to fuel their addictions (4) these people will start to rebuild their lives if they are recognised by society as valuable human beings We have come a long way by abolishing the death penalty. Lets us embrace our humanity further by helping these addicts. I can assure everyone that nobody wants to be addicted, but drugs are relentlessly marketed to the impressionable and everyone is a target, especially teenagers of wealthy families. Let the first free dosages be offered in Franschhoek, Sandton, Camps Bay etc. because these are the places the pushers try to build their customer bases AT ALL COSTS Keep in mind that the people who really, REALLY don't want drugs to be legalised is the drug dealers themselves, as keeping it illegal promotes scarcity and therefore the excellent profit.

  • Gert - 2011-12-14 16:32

    It is a terrible thing that happened to this poor girl, (I'm specifically avoiding a public opinion on it being self inflicted or not, I don't have enough info). All I know is that she is in just about as much trouble as you can get yourself into, and she is going to need all the help she can get. I hope from the bottom of my heart that this poor girl does not become a political tool for any of the political parties (ruling, main opposition, or any other). I am hoping against hope that, for once, the powers that be can actually try help a SA citizen in real trouble, without trying to make political ground out of it. Let's see.

      Aijaman - 2011-12-14 16:50

      U have spoken

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-14 17:15

      Thank you sir for yr mature words

  • Anton - 2011-12-14 16:32

    I'm a firm DA supporter but disagree with this. People should adhere to the country's rules in which they are travelling, and if they don't, they should be prosecuted under the law of that country. There should be certain exceptions, although things like drug smuggling, theft, rape and other crime should be treated under that country's law. I say let her rot in a Thai jail.

  • basie.pretorius - 2011-12-14 16:33

    what about the rights of the lives that these people destoy I say send her to hell via a death sentence

  • VoiceOfReason - 2011-12-14 16:37

    All they can do is to ensure that she is treated according to the laws in the country where the crime was committed and that her rights under those laws are not violated. But I have the feeling that they are aiming for SA citizens to be treated according to SA law regardless of where they are, which is wrong in my humble view.

      Ian - 2011-12-15 06:55

      hear hear

  • reinhard.pettenburger - 2011-12-14 16:37

    How dissappinting of the DA. My opinion on this is simple (I have been through Airports in Vietnam, Philipines etc and there are huge signs that clearly state that if you are caught you will face the death penalty)! If you cant do the time (or in this case lack of it)dont do the crime!!! I have no pity on anyone caught and our government should not get involved if anything they should support the decision made but that particular country.

  • Kerry - 2011-12-14 16:38

    She had cocaine in her hair, no one planted it there without her knowledge she knew damn well what she was doing when she boarded that flight - what freeking human rights does this woman have she is an adult and aware i am sure that this was drug trafficking - hope she rots in that Jail! who should feel sorry for this woman!

      Jenny - 2011-12-14 17:33

      Yep! She at least can't say that she was "framed" and that someone put coke in her hair without her knowing it.

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-12-14 16:38

    Kill her. Put it on you tube. Perhaps then the mules will get the message, because they don't seem to be getting it now

      Oceanh - 2011-12-14 18:04

      "kill her"??? Really, you are so thirsty for blood, that you cant even let the justice system take its course?

  • Gabiba - 2011-12-14 16:38

    Im sorry, I dont support the DA on this one. Drug mules KNOW wot they are doing is illegal. They do it anyway. Most of these countries have inflight warnings and warnings all over the airports about the penalty for smuggling drugs. I have no sympathy for them. Dont do the crime if you cant do the time. The DA cant bitch about crime, and then demand that Saffie criminals in other countries get mollycoddled. We KNOW the conditions of prisons in SE Asian countries. Let the accused suffer the consequences. There are no mitigating circumstances. This is a double standard.

  • Attie - 2011-12-14 16:39

    did this bitch thaught about the rights of people using these drugs that they also have a right to live. she only did this for money and could not care about peoples lives. if she has to be executed so be it. it will send out a stronger message to the world.

  • Len - 2011-12-14 16:40

    Douglas Gibson is in Thailand

  • Bingo - 2011-12-14 16:40

    Nonsense, these idiots know the penalties and yet CHOOSE to take a chance. If you cannot do the time ...... No sympathies. Ditto for Shrien Diwani. He needs to face the justice in the country where the crime was commited and be subject to our laws.

  • Castiel - 2011-12-14 16:41

    WTF DA?? When you're involved in drug trafficking, you have to accept the consequences that comes with it when you get caught. As simple as that.

  • Andreas - 2011-12-14 16:41

    The DA are losing it, if you want to smuggle drugs and ruin lives you take the consequences of your actions. Drug smugglers need to take ownership and responsibility for their actions and take what comes there way. The DA is not sending out a good message but then again they have a drug problem on their front door and are not able to control the problem. DA wake up and see how the underworld are killing our young.

  • ilze.stock - 2011-12-14 16:43

    Oh yes! And don't forget, we should also protect the rights of pedophiles, murderers, rapists... I shake my head in disgust! Please Jesus, come now! This crazy world needs to end now!

  • Mzamo - 2011-12-14 16:44

    D A seems to be opportunists now!!! Common sense tells me that the country (in this case), Bangkok, will apply law that governs them. So as South Africa, when foreign nationals break law in our country, we apply S A law / constitution. That is why S A Govt want Dewani to come here so he can explain what happened to his wife!!

      Azande - 2011-12-14 20:19

      they found a new niche, drug dealers. DA = Drug Addicts

  • lukman.akinwande - 2011-12-14 16:44

    the SA Government and security forces are leaving something important out! the concern should be how do these drug peddlers manage to pass thru the security checks at OR Thambo??? This must be investigated to the core!

      simphiweotto - 2012-04-27 10:03

      But she didn't have drugs when she left SA, she only got the coke in Brazil..

  • comrade.zondi - 2011-12-14 16:44

    Eish In the airports in Thailand are huge signs reading "DADA IS DEATH" Dada means drugs. If you are caught with drugs you are executed. This woman will be terminated soon. Good riddance !!!!! Comrade Zondi

  • Chrissie - 2011-12-14 16:49

    Guys are we not condoning crime but protecting criminals ? she knew what she was doing is illegal and wrong , if got caught she will pay high price , why did she do it?

  • Kevin - 2011-12-14 16:50

    Sorry, but these mules know what they do. they need to suffer the consequences! Criminals do not deserve righs. this evil must be attacked at its roots - the supplier!!! Why do these guys get away? Political?

  • Craig - 2011-12-14 16:51

    I think what they are getting at is that our gov needs to do everything it can to get these criminals charged as SA citizens in SA, and not fall by other countries' policies. I am not saying what they are doing is right, and for all I care, kill all the criminals...look at Dewani - the UK is at least trying to get him tried there, something our gov couldnt be bothered with! And yes, they don't deserve rights (you take away, you shouldn't have), and I don't think the DA supports drug dealers either...they are just saying (like it or not) that human rights exist and need to be adhered to, which wasn't the case in the last execution.

      Oceanh - 2011-12-14 19:56

      Well said Craig, I think many people on this forum are mistaking what the DA is saying. Today it might be a guilty drug mule whose rights get violated, tomorrow however it might be an innocent victim in the samilar situation, this particular drug mule is guilty and the DA are saying by all means charge and prosecute her, however we will not let our citizens rights be violated. I have read all there was on the case earlier this week, and I am not at all convinced that the previous "drug mule" was guilty. I honestly believe her rights were indeed infringed, I guess the DA agrees. Our dear government is so far up china's rear that, they failed Linden, rest her soul.

      Mike - 2011-12-14 20:11

      Craig they are not trying get her tried here it is impossible legally because of the principle that you can only be tried in criminal matters in the country where you committed the offense. All they are doing is checking that due process is followed, representing us as a civilized country. There is no magic or glory in what they are seeking its expected of a country that claims to be a constitutional democracy. The law will follow it's course thereafter and hopefully a fair hearing.

  • Alan - 2011-12-14 16:53

    Just legalize drugs, let the druggies be druggies. . . . rights, who ever came up with that word should be shot !!!!

  • Gerhard - 2011-12-14 16:55

    A drug mule is as corrupt as a SA tenderpreneur etc.

  • Seths - 2011-12-14 16:57

    Why don't they just execute them then they won't carry large amounts of drugs anymore.

  • Roy - 2011-12-14 16:59

    Bulls--t.If this woman was not caught would she have thought of what the drugs could do to others. She gave up her rights when she smuggled the drugs into Thailand and must therefore suffer any consequences that follow. What the DA has suggested is pure rubbish and this person,Stevens Mokgalapa an MP should not even worry about this mule's human rights

  • sam.swanpoel - 2011-12-14 17:01

    Drug mules and dealers got rights?? I dont think so and i must say the DA has me worried.