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Pta mum loses baby after road attack

2011-11-08 09:47

Johannesburg - A Pretoria mother has revealed how she and her daughters were intimidated and harassed by a group of drunken men in an ordeal that traumatised her so much she lost her unborn child.

Elizabeth Matshaka was six weeks pregnant when she, her two daughters and their nanny, were driving through city streets on Saturday evening, reported The Pretoria News.

A car with five drunken men pulled up next to her at a traffic light and she shook her head at them as they were clearly drunk.

This set the men off and they first tried to run her off the road, then poured alcohol over her car, yelling racial insults, damaged her car and smashed a window when one of her daughters attempted to take a picture of them on her cellphone.

“They started insulting me, saying I was driving a car that was on credit and as a black woman, I could afford nothing,” Matshaka was quoted as saying.

Pretoria police eventually arrested the men after they found them trying to remove the car’s licence plates.

They were charged with crimen injuria, malicious damage to property and the driver was facing drunk driving charges.

Matshaka and her children have been sent for counselling.  

The morning after the incident, she was in a lot of pain and bleeding profusely. She subsequently lost her baby and doctors blamed the trauma on Saturday night for her miscarriage.

She said she was shocked to discover on Monday that the men had already been released on bail.

Comments
  • MandrewZA - 2011-11-08 09:56

    Idiots like this must be publicly NAMED & SHAMED. We can no longer accept this kind of behavior, in SA. I am very sorry to hear of the mother's and family's loss.

      Joanne - 2011-11-08 09:57

      Agreed.

      robbie.crouch - 2011-11-08 10:02

      Absolutely!

      Christo - 2011-11-08 10:02

      Agreed Name and Shame them, that is disgusting, we have no place in South Africa for people like this!

      Delton - 2011-11-08 10:04

      Agreed. Justice must be done!

      rbphiri - 2011-11-08 10:18

      A good lengthy sentence of damage to property, attempted assault, and drunken driving should sober up these idiots. If only stupidity in public was also a criminal offence.

      thandi.mthembu - 2011-11-08 10:23

      Agreed....this is so inhuman

      MandrewZA - 2011-11-08 10:32

      If they are in a car, truck, or on a bike, report them @ www.drivelikeachop.co.za. The more these guys get Named and Shamed the better.

      Richard - 2011-11-08 10:39

      Agree, Hahaha, someone is to chicken sh1t to argue otherwise but they still thumb downed your statement and other comments.

      etienne.human - 2011-11-08 10:44

      I agree, this type of hooliganism should be rooted out of our society. Make an example of them.

      Veroon - 2011-11-08 10:52

      I agree as well, this is a sad sad story of what humanity has become. But why is she surprised that the men are out on bail? How often in this country do we see the same thing happen over and over again. Our justice system is clearly a joke.

      Chris - 2011-11-08 11:26

      @Aisha, simple solution for you: just scrap AA and BEE and then no one will wonder if you got there on merit.

      Aisha - 2011-11-08 11:32

      @Chris I probably hold higher qualifications than your entire family, no offense my friend but this could be very true.

      SimnikiweNtingi - 2011-11-08 11:36

      @Aisha...siyabangena...there are alot more black University graduates now than there were pre-1994. If you are pink and can't take the heat, go to Australia mate...as usual...

      Aisha - 2011-11-08 12:03

      AA and BEE is the results of Discrimination of the past, my mom worked for 23 years in government and she was a contract throughout her career, in her entire career she never earned More than R10.000 which is less than my tax a month, she didn’t have any benefits no pension fund nothing, all thanks to the evil white man, now Chris you want to tell us to scrap AA and BEE??

      jayzwayz - 2011-11-08 12:23

      Agreed! Pieces of sh*t deserve to rot in jail!

      Ax - 2011-11-08 12:57

      "Delloitte has put me to Rotech Engineering for a project one of the project managers a very old white man resigned because he couldn’t take instruction from a young black woman" Seeing how you write, seems the standards have dropped a lot recently at deloitte (ONE L), and they don't seem too demanding on business writing skills, let alone informal one. By the way, ever heard of punctuation? Am not sure what "put you for a project" means but professionals say assigned you to oversee a project or delegated or even mandated. Maybe the old project manager just realized that you lacked the skills and experience to be overall in charge of a project of this magnitude and his professional ethic led him to resign. Ever thought about that, maybe it has nothing to do with your race. But hey, you are wise and don't don't suffer from lack of modesty and are not childish at all saying to people that you hold higher qualifications than them and their families combined which you never even met. But hey you know best right Try to learn some humility little girl and remember that pride comes before a fall.

      Mia - 2011-11-08 13:32

      I'd love to know who the hell 'thumbs down' these comments? Sad to know there are more idiots than just those idiots who caused this poor woman so much pain!

      Moi1980 - 2011-11-08 13:42

      @Aisha - "all thanks to the evil white man" That one comment negates anything worthwhile which you may have had to add.

      Ali - 2011-11-09 20:09

      @LOL that my friend is because a black student with 50% average gets preference above a white student with 90% average. Care to prove me wrong?

  • Ian - 2011-11-08 09:56

    i dont care what colour these barbarians were, this is nothing but shocking and disgusting in fact whoever you are you are on the same mentality level as the ancyl themselves, no brains and no regard for anyone else, disgusting

      Johan - 2011-11-08 10:17

      ....since 1994 ........crime capital of the world... .....ANC = crime-friendly...

      Christo - 2011-11-08 10:21

      Johan what are you thinking, ANC as nothing to do with this crime, you are just embarassing yourself

      Virginia - 2011-11-08 10:32

      Christo, people are going to blame ANC, ANCYL, because of their contimuous racial remarks and racial laws passed in this country. I do not condon what these guys have done, its criminal, but unfortunately we have become a country of agressors because this, these guys were out of order. That is why when driving, I do not pass remarks, make gestures as it always gets taken up the wrong way. This lady must take this lot to the cleaners I would if I was her.

  • Marion - 2011-11-08 09:58

    This is absolutely disgusting. I am so sorry you lost your baby Ms Matshaka. I hope you, your daughters and the nanny know that not everyone hates people from other race groups. I know it is shocking that they are out on bail, but trust our justice system to penalize them appropriately.

      Xinobia - 2011-11-08 10:12

      No Marion, don't trust our justice system at all. They don't do what they should. Because of their lack of brains a man were released on parole and robbed, raped & killed only 10 days later. Our justice system doesn't mean anything! That is the whole reason why we live in a lawless country where you can get away with murder. Sorry for your loss Ms Matshaka. Yes, not all of us has race issues and these bastards should pay for what they did! Murderers as far as I'n concerned. It's sad that there are people out there with such lack of brains.

      Albert - 2011-11-08 11:04

      Our justice system is BS because judges are bending over backwards to be politically correct.Racism has a lot to do with it.

  • marazor - 2011-11-08 10:02

    If someone did this to the mother of my child or my wife, I'd hunt them down, find them and emit agony of apocalyptic proportions … I’m so enraged right now

      dewald.galjaard - 2011-11-08 10:15

      indeed

  • The.OT.Oracle - 2011-11-08 10:02

    I am at a loss for words O_o

  • Gavin - 2011-11-08 10:03

    There is no excuse for this sort of barbaric behavior. I hope these f'ckers burn in hell. Yet another life lost and a family destroyed courtesy of alcohol.

  • Mandy - 2011-11-08 10:05

    I'm very sorry for the familythat they had to go through an ordeal like that. Quite disgusting. But I don't believe that verbal abuse and stress can cause miscarriage. I don't think there would be a population explosion if that were the case. Get Real !!!!!!!!!!! Condolences though to the mom for her loss!

      Roberta - 2011-11-08 10:10

      Sorry "Dr" Mandy, but I must disagree with you. It is quite possible if the stress is high enough. Mothers have aborted as a result of lesser incidents. Condolences to the family.

      tumi.lekoko - 2011-11-08 10:15

      Hi, I know this for a fact Mandy, any kind of stress can cause a miscarriage. This is a result of aftershock

      Julia - 2011-11-08 10:20

      Mandy, clearly you have never experienced trauma! C'mon!!

      jafet.maclean - 2011-11-08 10:29

      Mandy you don't think...period

      BubblesdoubleO7 - 2011-11-08 10:36

      Mandy, she was damn near rammed off the road, had a beer mug smashed through her passenger side window where her daughter was seated, and targeted like an animal because of her colour and the fact that she could afford to drive an expensive car. She feared for her life and that of her daughter's. I think that's more than enough reason to stress, which coincidentally can cause a woman with child, to have a miscarriage. Get a grip woman, or better yet, get the facts!

      Ashley - 2011-11-08 10:41

      Mandy you are as thick as a garden chair, now go outside and play in the traffic............you are an idiot.

      smahlaba - 2011-11-08 10:55

      I can't believe you would make such a statement as a woman yourself

      Samantha - 2011-11-08 10:56

      actually Mandy, yes it can, i know from experience, i almost lost my child thro a traumatic/stressful work experience- thank God i didnt-

      mbali.motsenga - 2011-11-08 11:06

      Mandy your stupidity has no boundries or must we put under a microscope...

      atomasicchio - 2011-11-08 12:12

      I am so shocked by your comment! She was driven off the road by these drunken idiots while her children where in the car. I can't imagine what she went through! Very insensitive!!!!!

      Jason - 2011-11-08 13:40

      Gzuz Mandy - you are as thick as a beach Ball.. Are you a doctor, and secondly have you experienced what this poor lady had to whilst being pregnant, I think not!! Catch a wake up!!

      Moi1980 - 2011-11-08 14:13

      @Mandy - have you ever had a miscarriage??? I have, twice. Extreme stress and trauma can most definitely result in miscarriage. Maybe do some research before posting.

      Marion - 2011-11-08 14:21

      @Mandy, she was only six weeks pregnant. The issue of stress causing miscarriages is a yes and no one in that there are scientists who believe it and others who dont, but I found this online (old article from 2003) ...But this new research suggests that CRH and other stress hormones may also be released elsewhere in the body, where it specifically targets localized mast cells -- those best known for causing allergic reactions. Mast cells are abundant in the uterus. During stress, the local release of CRH causes these mast cells to secrete substances that can cause miscarriages.

      Juno - 2011-11-08 16:11

      What an obtuse comment..this incident was somewhat more than mere verbal abuse and stress - read the article properly!! It was a blatant physical attack! A charge of manslaughter should be added to the existing charges..bloody animals. I can only hope that they get a criminal record that will forever taint them. May they rot in hell.

      Gerda - 2011-11-08 20:06

      Best not to 'think'. You might make an idiot of yourself unless you speak of experience and a medical doctor as well?

      darktruth - 2011-11-10 04:56

      It actually can, it obviously just did as we have read. Deepest condolences to the woman and her family no one should have to go through what you have and still yet to go through.

  • Lana-May - 2011-11-08 10:06

    WHAT? Out on bail already? So they can just do it again. They should be chucked in jail!

  • Josh - 2011-11-08 10:06

    Drunk driving is seen as a complete joke in SA. It is so easy to see when people are trashed and driving like idiots. If we can see this why is it that cops do not, or just couldn't be bothered. Time to invest in pepper balls. :)

  • drishworth - 2011-11-08 10:06

    The names of these low lifes must be revealed............ I hope justice is done and these morons get what they deserve. Clearly a non-provoked racial attack - I hope Mother and daughters are able to overcome and move on after such a traumatic ordeal.

      Johan - 2011-11-08 10:10

      .....farm attacks (white farmers) and killings are also non-provoked......

      Christo - 2011-11-08 10:26

      you again Johan, you obviously identify with the attackers here. No one here says farm murders are ok, I bet you Ms Matshaka will agree to that. You however show a suprising lack of empathy for what happened, while at the same time complain about issues you hold dear.

      jafet.maclean - 2011-11-08 10:32

      Johan this is a different issue please stick with the subject..

      DuToitCoetzee - 2011-11-08 11:15

      @Johan. Stop playing scoreboard. It is because of playing that, that we do not all, at anytime, stand up against nonsense like this. We will only have respect for each other, understand each other point of view and support each other after we stop playing scoreboard without refering to all other wrongs in the country while discussing one wrong. By doing that you create respect and believe-ability that enable you again to address what is bothering YOU again. Than only, will people listen and think twice. You can follow that pathetic argument that "they" must than start(scoreboard again), but we all know the best place to start is with one selves.

      Juno - 2011-11-08 16:22

      @ Johan - your compassion and empathy are inspiring..

      darktruth - 2011-11-10 06:50

      @Johan I dont think she had anything to do with the murders, just proof of your racism

  • Gys - 2011-11-08 10:08

    Not surprising, we have thugs that kill children while racing, we have thugs that shoot paintball's at cars, we have thugs that skips red lights and kills more kids, we have thugs that attack motorists for now reason. And then what? In and out of jail faster than you can say jump. Welcome to the New Wild West. Law and Order? What is that?

  • André - 2011-11-08 10:08

    Wonder why they were not charged with manslaughter? Manslaughter? That's weird. Just realised one spells it mans + laughter. Anyway, this is no laughing matter. Incidents like these rape years of conciliation. So charge them with rape as well!

  • Bradley - 2011-11-08 10:09

    name and shame, its time we get to face the dark and evil that's bringing country down. Lets sort them out.

  • Lana-May - 2011-11-08 10:10

    And this is not road rage. Its guys that cant handle their alcohol and then driving.

      MistyMisterious - 2011-11-08 11:00

      You are a sad case,you can say whatever you like!!!At least im not a Hypocrate!!!

      Lana-May - 2011-11-08 12:52

      Your intelligence is refected through your comments... you are clearly a lil stupid... its ok, you will catch on sooner or later....

  • Maxodin - 2011-11-08 10:13

    My deepest sympathies to the mother.

  • Sharon - 2011-11-08 10:14

    Disgusting...hope they end up in jail, where they obviously belong.

  • Comrade - 2011-11-08 10:14

    This happen if i drove through Alexander or Soweto as well.

  • Kwena - 2011-11-08 10:17

    We are going a long way with this racism issue and it is destrying humanity in this country.

  • Michelle - 2011-11-08 10:18

    Charge them with the death of her baby as well! The miscarriage was a direct result of the actions!!!!

  • baudumpho - 2011-11-08 10:20

    we don't need this type of people among us.very sad.

  • Thabo - 2011-11-08 10:21

    Absolutely wrong! Idiots like these are taking us backwards! The law must take it's course duly! Sincere condolensces to the lady and her family.

  • Marius - 2011-11-08 10:23

    Shocking. No justice in our beloved country.

  • Omnivore - 2011-11-08 10:36

    How vile.

  • werner.smidt - 2011-11-08 10:41

    It's people like them that led us to the unfortunate position we are in today. Tappids.

  • Multi - 2011-11-08 10:42

    You stupid racist idiots. How can we move forward while we still have retards like you screwing things up for the rest of us? This is just a symptom, of the racism (i'll add sexism as well) in this country. All men+women are created equal and deserve respect based on their actions not on their skin colour or gender. Our blood is all the same colour.

      Johan - 2011-11-08 10:43

      ...its because we have a racists government....

      richard.marsh - 2011-11-08 10:49

      @Johan: Yes and clearly it's this woman's fault. We shouldn't focus on her horrible ordeal, in fact we should make it about the government every chance we get. These men are a disgrace... but hey... that's OK... cause the government is racist. Don't expect the world to change if you can't even muster up a bit of sympathy or empathy for all victims.

      Lana-May - 2011-11-08 10:55

      I agree with you Richard.... a wonman and her family was attacked, cant people see the sad in this and leave racism and the goverment out of this for once?

      werner.smidt - 2011-11-08 11:27

      @Johan: So, we've always had a racist government? Shucks.

      Multi - 2011-11-08 11:41

      there's racism on all sides. Unfortunately it appears to have been a factor in this incident. This poor woman lost her unborn child because of a few individuals acting like animals. Unfortunately it will be very hard to prove they are directly responsible for the child's death since any number of factors can contribute to a miscarriage and i strongly doubt that causing her to lose her baby was the intention. Nevertheless their actions are completely unacceptable and i hope they have a long time to think about the consequences not just for themselves but for the mother as well.

  • Gaynor - 2011-11-08 10:43

    Big condolences to this family! Does anyone else think that news24 doesn't write particularly good articles online? This is not road rage, it's alcohol abuse and racism. I think we deserve better reportin, it's not the first time I've seen misleading headlines or badly constructed articles on here.

  • thabani.mkhatshwa - 2011-11-08 10:46

    KULUKHUNI

  • Andrea - 2011-11-08 10:48

    Lock them up for manslaughter 1 .... People Like That Should NOT GET AWAY WITH MURDER ....

  • Daniel - 2011-11-08 10:48

    Shocking..breaks my heart to know a young family had to go through this... Being Afrikaans myself I often comes across these old school mentality Afrikaners in circles, makes me sick to the core...even if they dont perform totally sick acts like this, but they often just use the worst language and very old school mind frame... Sick sick sick, tired of it. Some might say hate black people because of farm murders, blacks might say hate whites because of apartheid...blah blah blah that crap excuses, not everyone is the same no matter your race... We're all people. I hope the above family all the best, I cant even start to imagine what I would do if this was to happen to my family.

  • MP - 2011-11-08 10:48

    I see that one of the daughters used her cell phone to film these ... people. Please can this family upload this film to facebook so we can know what these criminals look like? Completely agree with name and shame because the courts will just give a slap on the wrist.

  • franz.kersten - 2011-11-08 10:56

    they must add murder for the unborn child

  • vuledzani.nemukula - 2011-11-08 11:00

    some of the comments i regularly see here on news24 encourage behaviour like this. please stop it if you do it.

  • Guy - 2011-11-08 11:03

    Drunkards and idiotic behaviour goes hand in hand, to aggrivate this already dismal situation with racial slurs and threads shows exactly the type of lowlife these miscreants are,i advise public humiliation for the lot of them.

  • Steven - 2011-11-08 11:10

    This is disgusting ......these guys should be plastered all over the media and let there families feel ashamed when they walk in town but even worse the bunch of Idiots posting on this thread as a political issue Please guys not everything is political think of Ms Matshaka and what she's going through because a bunch of idiots trying to terrorize her IMAGINE it was your mother in that car what would you post then .......GUYS GROW UP !!!!!!!!

  • Gerhard - 2011-11-08 11:30

    The people who did this are idiots. Period. But, we should see them as a symptom of the sick society we live in and think of how we can cure this sickness and general social decay. Steven says it is not political, but it is political, especially since the purps shouted racial abuse at the victim. This is what comes from living in a country that pushes agenda's like BEE, Nationalisation, Political Correctness, whilst at the same living under a Capitalist structure. Let me tell you one fact, these thugs would not be allowed to get away with this in the so-called apartheid days. Forced integration causes this kind of behaviour. Less intelligent people will act with their emotions. We have to fix this problem at the roots thereof. Everyone is looking in the wrong place for the wrong answers. I don't know what the right answers are, but something has to change and soon.

  • Tjaart - 2011-11-08 11:33

    We should really start contemplating on some form of public punishment! The "behind the curtain" way of dealing with creaps like these simply does not match up to "the punishment must fit the crime" principle.

  • Paul - 2011-11-08 11:51

    Uhuru

  • elmarie.demarillac - 2011-11-08 11:53

    My daughter experienced road rage yesterday - first one idiot who tried to push her off the road, followed her, stopped in front of her, she reversed back and bumped another a##hole who also proceeded to harrass her, not help her????

  • Sean - 2011-11-08 11:57

    eedjits!!!

  • Phil - 2011-11-08 12:12

    Bloody disgrace

  • Bokfan - 2011-11-08 12:14

    What a horror. My condolences to this poor woman and her kids. These swine must pay for their crime. Its the only way. SA is bleeding.

  • Alan - 2011-11-08 12:19

    What happened to hard labor camps in the desert braking rock !!!

  • clarkson711 - 2011-11-08 12:22

    Who would "not like" MandrewZa's comment? Really...

  • Frank - 2011-11-08 12:24

    aisha the fact remains though that if it weren`t for the `evil`white man and his investment in this country that built the business districts we live in,you would not have the very job and qualifications you`re so boustfull about.you`d still be hanging out in mud huts with knopkirries,and sandton would be something like maputo at best.

  • sibusiso.mkoko - 2011-11-08 12:26

    wow! even whiteys do bad things. i'm shocked "sarcastically". take them to Barbeton prison. bloody agents

  • Shonaphy - 2011-11-08 12:32

    wrong is wrong no matter who does it. lets stop supporting idotic wrong disgusting things jst because a person who's done it happens 2 hv the same skin color as ours. lets stand 4 the truth. there r a lot of stupid black people n a lots of stupit white people.i think if we stand 4 the truth our country will hv a great future. coz we see people messing up n we support jst because the look like us. what matters should always b the truth. i also do is sometimes n im disgusted with myself afterwards, so i knw there are good ppl out ther black n white. lets start standing up for the truth nw b4 its 2 late.

  • Monique - 2011-11-08 12:39

    Aisha this article is not about you and your mother. You selfishly used this not to sympathise but to spread yet more division as if we need more. You have managed to do the predictable and turn into into another racist debate. It is about something terrible that has just happened to someone else not you ! its about them !! and the sick society we live in. Call it racist if you feel you must. Be productive and fuel the fire. Racism happens all the time both ways not just one way. Most rational people dont condon it as you can see from most comments here. I hope the idiots who did this get what they deserve and I sorry that this happened and that we battle with this continious racist crap daily.

  • Coral - 2011-11-08 12:49

    @Aisha - you are a racist b****...take your narrow minded views and share them with like minded, narrow minded people you will be friends with. Your education definately doesnt show in your remarks - you could just as well be one of the uneducated in South Africa because you think like they do...You are a sad sad girl!!!

  • cselemela - 2011-11-08 12:53

    Pretoria seems like it breeds racists, we don't need people like these in our streets, every one has the right to do what they do with their money whether its on credit or not it had nothing to do with them. Funny thing is that they are probably staying in the rented house instead of owning property. my heart goes to the family that has lost their unborn child, and the justice system should keep those scumbags in prison to come face to face with people like them.

      Lana-May - 2011-11-08 13:11

      No no.... Im from Pretoria and I hate racism ans so does all of my friends and family in Pretoria, please dont generalize

  • Melanie - 2011-11-08 13:19

    unfortunately there is very little justice in this country. We need a vigilante or ten.