News24

Pupils in court over 'race murder'

2012-02-28 22:34

Johannesburg - Three high school pupils are set to appear in the South Gauteng High Court in June charged with the murder of a 59-year-old Randfontein man.

Sources say the State will argue that the murder was racially motivated.

The three, one of them 16 and the other two 17, appeared briefly on a charge of murder on Tuesday.

One of the pupils is a student at Jan Viljoen High School in Randfontein, another at Monument High School in Krugersdorp and the third is from a Free State high school.

The case was postponed because one of the accused has a new lawyer who needs time to prepare for the case.

According to the charge sheet, the boys attacked Ntshola Petrus Modise on a smallholding in Dwarskloof, Randfontein, on July 8 last year. 

Modise tried to flee, but the teens chased him and allegedly stabbed him to death.

They reportedly fled when someone saw them and fired a warning shot.

Members of the community tracked down two of the suspected killers and the third was arrested. The third was arrested at a Krugersdorp hospital, where he was being treated for a head wound.

During a bail application after their arrest, it was revealed that gloves, balaclavas and a telescopic sight had been found in their possession.

 

Comments
  • alwynb - 2012-02-28 22:48

    yeah, deplorable act. But let's call a spade a spade! These thugs should go to jail. AND white farmers are deep into genocide.

      Juan - 2012-02-29 02:27

      and so are some of the farm workers and their buddies. We are headed for big sh1t in this country. In the Mandela era everybody were talking about reconcilliation and nation building, now we are talking about nationalisation, expropriation of land, a corrupt ANC, a useless president. The climate has really changed a lot here in South Africa, and this let's me think about emigrating with my family, but it's not easy, I still love my home.

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 09:59

      Thelma racist or not these boys killed a man my dear and should we all keep quiet now just because they are flippen white? I don't think so... we read about blacks killing white farmers and we also do not keep quiet about it. By you trying to find excuses for these filthy trash, you're not only condoning the killing but just think how would you feel if your boy does the same to another human being?

      FlowingRivers - 2012-02-29 10:02

      HANG THOSE BASTARDS........BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY !

      Thelma - 2012-02-29 10:27

      @ dumisiledee - First get off your high horse and then read my comment again!!!!!

      Antebellum - 2012-02-29 11:28

      Where have all the comments gone media24? There are atleast 20 missing. Censoring comments that question your objectivity will harm your integrity even futher and not preserve it as you might hope. No wonder the circulation of your newspapers are taking a dive.

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 11:33

      @Thelma if 3 BLACK men killed your grandad or dad would your also want to hear the whole story or would you just be focused on the part that not one but 3 men killed your dad? Stop being a hypocrite and complaining about double standards while You yourself are exercising them.

      modumo - 2012-02-29 11:35

      @Thelma,dumisiledee is right in what she is saying and now you getting all defensive. If the race was reversed, you would be screaming foul and cursing the government without knowing the entire story. So you get off your high horse and start learning the value of human life regardless of race. The man who was killed could have been the bread winner of a family that is poverty stricken...Guess what, that means that we tax payers will be feeding them now, due to these little idots that are taken to camps that motivate racial war.

      Antebellum - 2012-02-29 11:48

      Really modumo? You said: "...you would be screaming foul and cursing the government without knowing the entire story" Then you end with: "...due to these little idots that are taken to camps that motivate racial war" Where is your evidence that these boys went to a camp or that they were racially motivated to commit acts of war? You are guilty of doing exactly what you are accusing Thelma of.

      Thelma - 2012-02-29 12:11

      Firstly - I DO NOT CONDONE THE ACTS OF THE YOUNGSTERS secondly - WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THE DAY OF THE MURDER AND WE ARE STILL AWAITING THE FULL STORY TO BE PUBLISHED!!!! thirdly IF THREE BLACK MEN/YOUNGSTERS KILLED MY GRANDFATHER/FATHER THE HEADLINES WOULD NOT READ "RACIAL MURDER" PURELY BECAUSE WE ARE WHITE. So please stop contradicting yourselfe!!! Nobody is condoning the murder it is wrong all we are saying is why does it get labelled "race murder" but when whites are murdered it is robbery gone wrong. Oh and by the way a very close friend and business associate of mine was butchered half to death on Monday in front of his wife and daughter and is in a critical condition in ICU but nothing made headlines of any sorts. So my question to you is is it o.k. for racism to be practised only by one race group or do we live in a country where our constitution stipulates that we are all equal and all have the same rights????

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 12:31

      @Thelma were any journalists around or did anyone bring that to the journalists attention? I'm sorry to hear about your friend and his family but this old man didn't commit the crime did he? if you read the story properly the reporter says "Sources say the State will argue that the murder was racially motivated." so this was not News24 but the source so Dearie it sounds like you are justifying this whole thing because you didn't comment on how evil these scumbags were but quickly jumped to complaining about race. All we are trying to point out here to YOU people is that murder is murder. They stabbed and killed an old man...they should rot in hell together with all that are condoning their actions. *That's all*

      Thelma - 2012-02-29 12:40

      Murder is murder and the white farmers who are brutally murdered on a daily basis also did not commit any crimes....you did not answer my question!

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 12:55

      Oh sorry I forgot to reply to your question. The answer to your question is you have to ask the State about that, not News24 and not me. I didn't label this crime and I'm certainly not bothered about the colour of the perpetrators I'm flippen pissed about 3 youth brutally killing an old man. The State wants to argue that it was racially motivated. I would be equally pissed still if it were 3 black youths who killed an old white man because I respect life and feel really sorry for the family. Colour is the least of my worries when it comes to crime.Murder is murder in my books, whether race motivated or not, it won't change how I feel, I won't be more angry or less if it is or not.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 13:44

      Really, deep into genocide. Tell us more.So what has the spade got to do with it?.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 13:56

      Dumisiledee, everyone that commits murder should be punished, we agree on that. How ever Thelma do have a point. This murder will be classified as racial, just as Terre'blanche's murder was labeled sexual. There is something wrong here, a black man murders a white and it is a burglary gone wrong, a white man murders a black and it is racial. It is hypocritical, but it scores points and at the end of the day that is all that matters. The only thing wrong here is that we, as a people, are the losers because we will never struggle free from the quagmire of racism in this way. While the race card remains lucrative, inequality will last.

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 14:01

      What points does it score Jacqui? I'm sorry I don't understand this, a man was killed and the killers must be dealt with finish and klaar.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:02

      What does this have to do with the farmers your retard. There is no farmer genocide, farm murders are oppotunistic and nothing to do with hate, they are easy targets and that is why they get targeted.

  • bernpm - 2012-02-28 22:50

    ".....Sources say the State will argue that the murder was racially motivated....." Under the current social climate the best approach to get a conviction. racial or not is not important.

      Martin - 2012-02-29 11:50

      The state just wants to bring race into it cos it pushes their agendas forward. and what the hell does gloves and a balaclava have to do with anything, i have the same items on me on cold mornings and nights. but still hang them or give them to the mans community for a necklacing ceremony

  • Cracker - 2012-02-28 22:59

    "The case was postponed because one of the accused has a new lawyer who needs time to prepare for the case." As usual. Will it never stop? In the meanwhile bugger all else. We need a review of our justice processes. Not the substantive rights but these silly excuses and manipulations. If for example a material witness disappears or is no longer available because of natural or any other reasons, the accused will go free. Or the judge or magistrate halfway through the trial becomes indisposed and not able to finalise the trial. Just go on postponing the case. Now see the other accused try the same.

  • Sinudeity - 2012-02-28 23:00

    Idiots! They deserve to rot in jail. Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 10:00

      Well said. Lately its the teenagers that are more dangerous so I say they must do the time.

      Tyson - 2012-02-29 10:07

      These baffoons are the products of the kommandokorps!

      Sinudeity - 2012-02-29 11:03

      dumisiledee - Yeah ur right. Scary thought indeed. Dunno how someone can read all the headlines about 'racism', and then actively decide to participate in events that merely make the matter worse.

      Jacques - 2012-02-29 12:08

      Tyson if that is true then the farm murders are being trained in the ANCYL camps right. Be carefull friend as most whites are against the murder of any sort. Read the comments and you will see the whites dont condone this and are calling for their heads. Fact remains we do not know what transpired here. Is it possibel that it was racialy motivated as most farm murders in this country yes. Does it make it right to put farm murders and this case in one basket, not it is not. the same can be said of you grouping the kommando corps in the same basket and me grouping the ANCYL in to the same basket. I am Afrikaans...I want peace...I want love. Murder remains murder be it motivated through race or not. One thing i know is this country will not heal with comments such as yours and some comments of the whites on this site. We should think before we speak and support one another

      Hugh - 2012-02-29 15:04

      This isnt anything to do with the farm murders, its about kids who killed an elder without compassion or remorse. They must rot in jail. Well done to the guy who scared them off, good shot.

  • Mandu Ngcobo - 2012-02-28 23:49

    Why are many of you white folk on the defensive? This despicable crime does not incriminate all white people so please, do get over yourselves.

      jack.oosthuysen - 2012-02-29 00:22

      I wish people will only critisize the actions of an offender. Every criminal incident in this country is to be condemned in totallity. At least 4 families lives have been negatively affected forever.

      Khutso Rele Mokgosi - 2012-02-29 03:08

      wbtaken we black people get constantly accused of stealing. you dont see us ranting and raving when any of you complain about murders of white farmers.

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 10:11

      @Ekfeugo couldn't have said it better myself.

      aidan.louis - 2012-02-29 10:16

      It could, however, set a very bad precident

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:07

      Khutso,ranting and raving when people complain about farm murders?. Of course you don't rant and rave then, why should you, they were white for goodness sake. I really don't see why murder has to be a racial thing. Sooner or later even the temperature will become racial, I am sure of that.

  • joshua.zake - 2012-02-28 23:50

    why is this country still so divided? an elderly man has been stabbed to death by high school kids who should be studying and people debate whether it was a racially motivated crime or not, if it was a white person bla bla bla if it was a black person bla bla bla... when are south africans going to get it?

      Cosmic - 2012-02-29 08:40

      When they scrap AA and BEE, then we will "get it"

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 10:14

      @Joshua.zake it just shows that the very same people who complain about double standards are the exact people who promote it. Its soo depressing reading these comments because if its white people being killed ANC and blacks are being blameed if white people kill blacks still ANC and blacks are being blamed instead of blaming the criminals we go and generalise.

      Dewald - 2012-02-29 10:55

      @joshua - It is the 'sources' that say that the State will argue racial motivation and Naspers quoting their 'sources'. Just read it again... The 'sources' are Naspers sources - and you are reading a Naspers story. By the time the state argues their case, they might not even mention the 'racial motivation'. But the hate and blame that Naspers creates with this type of inaccurate and unfair liitle sentences, will still ripple through the South African community.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-29 10:56

      @Cosmic, not mature at all buddy...

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:08

      Joshua, they are never going to get it.

      Sello - 2012-03-01 10:35

      @Cosmic tha is not fair, you still enjoy the majority of wealth in this country. All AA and BEE dos is to bring blacks to your level so we can share the wealth. I don't want to go back and re-write history I think it is not important if we are working together to achieve equality. Lets stop puttin blames to one another and strive to make our country the best it can be. We like it or not we are stuck together.........

  • daniel.mudau - 2012-02-28 23:50

    Whoever came up with apartheid has done serious damage to both so called black and white..we lack creativity bcos our brain is focusd on useless racists agendas. Our thinking is very distorted and we lack vision to tackle issues with the aim of nation building...it is up to us to discuss what can propel our nation foward as opposed to cheap racial slurs we keep on throwing to each other.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-02-29 01:01

      daniel. This is the problem. All groups fought this system for hundreds of years and when a new group is on top he follows the same system that he fought. Look back into SA's history till current and you will find this repeating occurs all the time. Yes, it gets adapt here and there, but the core stays the same. I wonder sometimes if there were and still are powers and politicians that was/is the reason or were and still are we all just plain stupid in this country. We are wasting so much time creating unhappiness and postpone our own wished future.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-02-29 06:25

      It is all about who controls the money. Political parties will always sow division in order to gain popularity. Race is the easiest differentiator. The ANC and its affiliates are expert at fostering hate and greed, based on race. They themselves do not share in the misery they create, because they are in charge of the money.They just take as much as they can for themselves. This causes more misery and frustration amongst our people and the race bias is magnified. We can only start growing as a nation once political parties are abolished and we have put South Africa, and not any party, first.

  • Pieter Janse van Rensburg - 2012-02-28 23:51

    Given. Goes to show. I never went down all the way. A man should go down all the way... to read.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:10

      Huh??????

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-02-29 16:21

      The delta ...the rivers and the seas...

  • Pieter Janse van Rensburg - 2012-02-28 23:57

    Given. I dont focus! I stopped smoking for 2 days now. Next time I'll go down all the way... to read.

      Given - 2012-02-29 00:22

      Lol askies,go back to smoking,i think its good for u

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-29 00:50

      Dont stop smoking..just switch to real tobacco.. you may enjoy it. LOL

  • Kagiso Ramasodi - 2012-02-29 00:12

    Murder is murder!!

      Shane - 2012-02-29 00:50

      I agree, whatever the motive.

      Merven - 2012-03-01 07:28

      Agree. They must make the law simple. If you commit a murder or rape, you automatically loose your human rights and be treated as such.

  • JohncarlosBiza - 2012-02-29 00:18

    Hahaha in SA racism is more noteworthy than a shocking murder. News24 users need to get their priorities in .

  • thato.sexybabe - 2012-02-29 00:53

    man this is crap ...so u guys are scared of ur kids growing up in a so called reverse apartheid???? but it was ok for others to face it all this years...safetrip to texas...murder is murder and those responsible should face the music be it u black or white...cant we all be one and unite so that we fight all this crime we facing it affects us all...

      StarStruck - 2012-02-29 08:11

      The biased ones commenting on this site is only a handful of bad apples. The majority of us understand what is needed to turn this country around for all the people that live here. There are more people like yourself and they outweigh the b@stards found on this site, be they black or white.

  • Ntokozo V Zwane - 2012-02-29 01:11

    This site is flooded with hypocritical, double-standards and ignorance. 3 youths killed a man, thats it. If it was racial or not, i wouldnt know (but considering logic i think it is). You people keep bringing up the anc shouting "they are racist", NO, racist is telling people they not good enough, racist is seperating people, racist is calling people primative, racist is making people suffer, racist is telling a person all they wil amount to is working at a farm, racist is what apartheid era regime was and now thanks to those morons the country is divided. You are all saying this and that about racist blacks, yet none of you want to bring up the fact that theres 1500 teens out there trained and ready to kill me. NOW THATS RACIST

      Thandy Moupo - 2012-02-29 06:08

      YES! I soooooo agree with u!

      TheJaydedKing - 2012-02-29 06:27

      I agree. this site devours racial articles with a gusto that make me fearful of ppl's repressed feelings.

      Yolandè Rwaai - 2012-02-29 08:04

      Suddenly the way they comment is now different, they are now singing a different tune. Refer back to comments where a White person was murdered & you'll see the hateful words used. So, clearly there are double-standards!

      Merven - 2012-03-01 07:31

      'yet none of you want to bring up the fact that theres 1500 teens out there trained and ready to kill me.' Welcome to the whites' world where the entire ruling party is singing songs instigating genocide of whites.

  • Marlene Black - 2012-02-29 01:23

    The actions of the boys can be attributed to the way they have been raised. If they are products of households where they have not been taught to be respectful and tolerant of other cultures, then it is hardly surprising that they perpetrated this dreadful crime. Parents need to be very careful of the legacy they pass onto their children - this influence can blight a young person's outlook on life and handicap them for the rest of their lives.

  • TankTammy - 2012-02-29 01:41

    how does something being "racially motivated" (be it white on black or black on white racism) make it worse of a crime and how is that grounds to fight on in court? It should just be called plain murder. It's a crime of one human being against another, that's what should be the issue. The total indifference is saddening.

      Hugh - 2012-02-29 15:14

      Tank, I think its blatantly clear that they killed this guy because he was black. There is no other explanation, and they must go to the gallows as far as I'm concerned.

      Hugh - 2012-03-01 09:33

      To my thumbs downers, you think that this was just some random intellectual white kids on a picnic, and by chance found the need to kill someone? If they found Oom Fanie, they would have chased him down and killed him too? Stop being so naive, it was premeditated, and a black guy, any black guy was going to die that day.

  • Compos - 2012-02-29 04:47

    Thinks Frank is the type of guy that mark his photos from right to far right.

      Marion - 2012-02-29 07:36

      Frank is a troll - ignore him.

  • Sarel Brits - 2012-02-29 05:05

    I think its important to point out racism were ever and by whom ever it is perpetrated, be it the waterkloof 4 be it farm murders be it the Tereblanch murder, Murder is Murder and if found guilty should be punished for what they did, we as a society should have the maturity to know that the majority of people are not racist to this extent.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:10

      agreed

  • barend.barney.schwab - 2012-02-29 05:51

    Murder is murder, no matter who commits it. Racial or not, it is another human life that you snuffed out, not on.

      Sannie - 2012-02-29 06:23

      @Barend, 100% agree with you. I hope that one day people will stop attaching race to every incident.

      Mike - 2012-02-29 07:36

      But a fact remains that some people might be motivated to kill a certain person because they are fro a certain race and in this case it is,headline should read Three Racist White Boys Kill Innocent Black Man

      JJ - 2012-02-29 08:38

      While I agree with you Barend, what bothers me is that when it's a murder the other way around then we hear "savages" "barbarians" etc but now we accept as just murder. Double standards me thinks...

      Riaan - 2012-02-29 09:53

      Mike Please just STFU.

  • Roy - 2012-02-29 06:04

    No matter what whites do it will be racist but when blacks murder whites it will be opportunistic.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:11

      this was obviously a race related crime

  • Sannie - 2012-02-29 06:21

    When the government wants to get the media to account, the same people cry foul. Now news24 create their own racial story the same people cry foul. What exactly do you want? Make up your mind.

  • Terence Wessels - 2012-02-29 06:45

    There's seriously something wrong with this country murder is murder doesn't matter if you're black or white its still a crime. And I blame news24 as well why write such crap igniting another spark to division in this country. Face the facts no matter how hard we try we will never be a rainbow nation you will always read about racism ect... America,Germany are some countries where there was apartheid (division) as well the fact is they got over it and learned to live past it where we South Africa can't seem to get over our horrible past which I wasn't even part of cause I wasn't even born yet so why must I read this crap.

      Nugh Tyer - 2012-02-29 07:19

      I am living in the hope that there are more sane people around us then some of these criminally insane excuse of human beings around. We shouldn't allow crazy incidents like this to destroy our Ubuntu. GOD help us.

      Marion - 2012-02-29 07:40

      @Terence... News24 simply reported the story. They never mentioned race. They mentioned what the prosecution was going to argue. Why blame News24 for all the racist comments here? It is not News24 that is igniting racism, it is the people commenting on this article.

      Linda - 2012-02-29 15:55

      And yet we still read it, Terence. By the way America for one has NOT got over their racial problems - yet.

  • malcolm - 2012-02-29 06:54

    Its tragic when anybody gets killed. Its disgusting that young teenagers get some sort of sadistic pleasure out of killing a 59 year old man. They should be given life sentences. It makes me wonder what sort of family background and upbringing these terrible little bastards come from.

      johan.j.vanvuuren2 - 2012-02-29 09:10

      malcolm some kids these days are influenced by friends and drugs. pity most parents don't have time for there kids because both parents must work. hell check how much money anc makes just by increasing petrol and we pay for it at the counters too.would you say that if it was your kid?

  • Marion - 2012-02-29 07:02

    This is the first time I have heard of this case and, albeit belated, I offer condolences to his family. In SA murder, rape and robbery are national pastimes. These 'kids' must pay for their crime.

  • Frikkie - 2012-02-29 07:03

    God help us all.

  • Orapeleng Molosiwa - 2012-02-29 07:07

    Y did he shoot the sky when there were three little criminals he could have shot,what a waste of bullets...

      johan.j.vanvuuren2 - 2012-02-29 09:12

      because he would have been arrested for saving someone. that is the law that was brought in to cover and save criminals and make you 1

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 10:30

      I have to agree with you there Johan.

      Hugh - 2012-02-29 15:16

      He got one, see hospital and head injury

  • ramatsetselevy - 2012-02-29 07:12

    1.during apartheid , when a white person kill a black person , it was opportunistic.the same now when a black kill a white it is opportunistic (not that i agree with this) but it is how media n some individuals across the colour line potray the murders. now my point is murder is murder life is lost.BUT IF YOU FEEL YOU WANT TO RUN AWAY FROM SOUTH AFRICA BCOUSE OF THIS , YOU WILL STILL FIND IT WHERE EVER YOU GO.I WONT STOP YOU.YOU CAN EVEN PACK YOUR BAGS AND GO IMMEDIATELY AFTER READING THIS , BUT SURELY WHAT YOU WILL BE DOING IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A SOLUTION TO THIS.

  • Welile Nokuthula Ndlovu - 2012-02-29 07:12

    Murder is the unlawfully, wrongful killing of another HUMAN BEING, and once you convicted with this its up to thw presiding officer what sentence to give you. What difference does it make on the race of the deceased or the suspects. Instead of this country moving forward we are taking another two steps back. We will never succeed in anything constructive if we continue pulling race cards after everything.

      Nigel - 2012-02-29 07:19

      agree, but unfortunately the tension is now very high, because of Mr Malema racist outbursts, he is dividing the nation.

      Marion - 2012-02-29 07:41

      @Welile... well said.

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-02-29 08:07

      Dividing the nation? Seems to me there are an awful lot of people (mainly white) who have zero interest in any form of inclusive solution.

      johan.j.vanvuuren2 - 2012-02-29 09:15

      now that i agree to we must see the person not the skin and the criminal not the skin unfortunately courts do not see that only black and white

      Riaan - 2012-02-29 09:56

      DrGonzoSA Probably because there are many blacks that have zero interest in any form of inclusive action.

      Trudy - 2012-02-29 13:35

      @ Nigel. Why give Malema so much power? Ignore the idiot and focus on what is right.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:16

      Dr. Gonzo Sa. Don't generalize, I am white and you don't have a flea's notion of who I am or what interest me.

  • Nigel - 2012-02-29 07:17

    This new wave of racism & racist attacks is thanks to Julias Malema. He is the one instigating this hate. & its time News24 start to moderate comments on this site.

      Byron - 2012-02-29 09:30

      Always someone else to blame hey? Must be nice to not take responsibility for anything ...

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 10:32

      @Nigel bull man, these kids killed a man they should do the crime. Julius or no Julius they need to pay big time.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:18

      Dumisiledee, I am sure they will pay for the crime they have committed. it is the adults that have filled their heads with hatred and who will go scott free that bothers me.

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 14:43

      Jacqui I trully agree and its getting worse by the day

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:14

      Nigel, you are what is wrong with this country. Does Julius Malema represent all the blacks in this coutnry. If Julius Malema says something racist and some dumb Afrikaaner kid goes and shoots an innocent black man, does the fact that Julius started it justify it.

  • Barry - 2012-02-29 07:25

    Why has this been characterised as racially motivated? It is a plain murder charge. In future we will now fully expect the race of the muderer and victim to be stated in all cases.

      Hugh - 2012-02-29 15:21

      What would you call it? Just another random killing?

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:14

      because it is

  • TenRas1 - 2012-02-29 07:30

    This gat nothing to do with the ANC, It's simply boys lacking respect of life. Are u justifying it cos the white man is on the wrong side of the law? To hell with that, this young white men must Rot in jail like any1 else that commit such crimes.

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 11:39

      I think they are doing just that, the likes of blonde Thelma, Sean etc...

  • siyabulela.mandela - 2012-02-29 07:32

    FELLOW SOUTH AFRICAN, FELLOW FRIENDS FELLOW COUNTRY ME LETS COME TO OUR SENSES AND KNOW THAT WHETHER THIS WAS DONE BY WHITE PEOPLE, BLACK NOR ANY OTHER RACE. IT HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM.THIS IS A NEW SOUTH AFRICA LETS STOP BRINGING BACK THE ERA OF APARTHEID.

      johan.j.vanvuuren2 - 2012-02-29 09:20

      now you are a wise man pity no one here will read it like human beings

  • Ndivhuho - 2012-02-29 07:34

    its so easy and conveniet to blame the anc for everything just as most people blame apartheid for everything. *the blame story is getting tired* my question here is what motive do young man have for killing an old man?

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:24

      What motive did men have to kill an old woman with an iron?. Who knows, this country is crazy.

  • Bibi - 2012-02-29 07:35

    Disgusting! May justice takes its course. But why does this get a racist label, while 3 blacks murdering a white farmer is not a racist attack. who decides this?

      TenRas1 - 2012-02-29 07:42

      Crime has no colour, i don't promote farm murders at all. What do you say about black killing black cos that happens every single day?

      Vishan Moodley - 2012-02-29 08:11

      Its sad to read that majority of the comments by the " Whites " are about trying to convince themselves that it seems to be ok for whites to kill blacks but not ok for blacks to kill whites. To those few racist white comments,don't forget it was the white racist that brought about racism to SA, so matter what is said, its the white that should take responsibility for this horrible murder, coz they have instilled racism in all SA, including there own kids who are now themselves being racist . So white people stop trying to justify what these kids have done, coz murder is murder whoever commits it and those responsible should face the full wrath of the law

      Bibi - 2012-02-29 10:26

      @Vishan: You are misintepreting my comment. I was asking who decides when it is a racist killing or not. Remember the story in the Free State about 8 years or so ago when a white women shot and killed a black man in her passsage at 2am - she was accused of racism. I just think that the majority of whites in SA are sick and tired of the racist label while the majority of whites have clearly moved on and contribute a lot of money to the 'upliftment' of the country.

      Shanelle - 2012-02-29 10:35

      @TenRas1 - I have been wondering the same thing. Maybe News24 should start reporting on that and everyone will see that CRIME IS CRIME and we ALL affected by it!!

      Shanelle - 2012-02-29 10:39

      @AllTheGoodNamesAreGone - you go back to school and read, you will see not all the comments from Whites were to defend themselves. A lot of them are actually just trying to justify why they are racist.

      Barry - 2012-02-29 12:15

      @Vishan, whites are not condoning any killing by anyone. The comments revolve around the fact that in recent years when a white kills black it is racially motivated. Black kills white by a ratio of 100 - 1 but this is not considered racially motivated. So it begs the question who is the racist?

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:25

      Vishan, keep it short, you loose yourself after two paragraphs.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:30

      Barry, actually the racist here are the lawyers or judges who have classified the murder as racist, or will be doing so. It is a sure way to have a mass toy-toying outside the courtroom. Geez, some iffy people may even read that as racist.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:18

      I concur with Vishan Moodley's sentiments I am quoting him for truth "To those few racist white comments,don't forget it was the white racist that brought about racism to SA, so matter what is said, its the white that should take responsibility for this horrible murder, coz they have instilled racism in all SA, including there own kids who are now themselves being racist . So white people stop trying to justify what these kids have done, coz murder is murder whoever commits it and those responsible should face the full wrath of the law"

      blipsie - 2012-03-02 12:49

      Um. Vishan and Stefanus. I didnt see anyone saying its ok that white people murder black people? Did I miss that post? Kindly refer me to them. Your comments are offensive by grouping all white people together and calling them racist because they feel all crimes should be treated equally. I'm sorry but it seems you are both quite racist and in this case its obviously looking for people behind the same door your standing. What the majority of whites have said is why do all racial crimes not get prosecuted as such? I think you need to read slower so you get the whole point.

      blipsie - 2012-03-02 12:53

      Oh yes and Vishan and Stefanus, if you went to school you would also know that white people didnt bring racism. That an equal load to carry right there. If you really want to go back that far, first read up on history friend. The Voortrekkers were on many occasions slaughtered. Ie. Dingaan. They rarely attacked first and only defended themselves. So how did they bring it? It never ceases to amaze me how peole think the more aggresive they put across what they saying the more true it makes it. You make yourself look silly if you dont think before you type and only type when you know what you are talking about.

  • Mike - 2012-02-29 07:38

    Headline should read "Three Racist White Boys Kill Innocent 59 year old Black Man". If they are not convicted they should face mob justise,stoning or necklacing.

      Riaan - 2012-02-29 10:03

      Go back to your hole, Malema.

      FlowingRivers - 2012-02-29 10:52

      @Mike...........Amandla!

      Dewald - 2012-02-29 12:20

      And all the other days of the year we will read headlines like "Five Racist Black Men Kill Innocent 78 year old White Lady". Your mob or mine?

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:32

      Now really Mike, you have come far haven't you?.I know the road to maturity is strewn with all sorts of things, but just plot on, you may make it someday.

  • Lulama - 2012-02-29 07:41

    A murder has taken place and if we are all decent human beings, as I suspect we are, we should be angry at the fact that a human being was murdered. Three young people killed a man, we should be more worried about that. These kids are 16 and 17. That worries me.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:34

      Yes, and those filling their heads with hate worries me more. What worries me too is that here even a murder becomes a racial thing.

  • Kevin - 2012-02-29 07:42

    Has it ever occurred to any of us that News24 intentionally reports scandal like this to draw more people to it's news site. It is like selling skinder via the tabloids. Isn't it about money for News24 anyway. They can claim that they attract XX number of people to their site daily and therefore charge exorbitant advertising fees

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:36

      Intentionally reports scandal?. Should they have kept quiet about the case in your opinion?. Your idea about advertising fees looks childish to me.

  • Francois - 2012-02-29 07:44

    3 x misinformed juvenile delinquents.jail them for life.

      johan.j.vanvuuren2 - 2012-02-29 09:22

      would a life sentence be enough? they did take a innocent live.bring back death penalty hang them and respect for law might return to our beautiful country

  • Munchk1n - 2012-02-29 07:46

    Unsubscribed from racist news 24. From now on, I'll be reading from international sources to get non-racial, and factual news. news24 has become a F#$cking joke, and I'm tired of reading about the same d!ckhead that goes by the name of malema all the time, goodbye.

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 11:43

      Bye!

      Dewald - 2012-02-29 12:16

      You are right - I have been exposing their lies and half-truths for a long time now, but to little avail. I am just making myself old and sick. Which on-line newspapers are good?

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:38

      Oh dear, why have you read all the post then?. How nice of you to inform us of you leaving, what made you think we would be interested?.

  • Dave - 2012-02-29 07:47

    This kind of behaviour from any side of the racial sphere is completely out of order, if you are guilty then face the consequences. That said however I agree with some of the commenst below, yes this is wrong but why!!!???? are the barbaric farm murders and house invasions not reported on? when people are tortured and killed in such a way that it would go beyond war crimes!! no theft takes place, rape, torture and murder !! nothing locally is reported!!! also whilst I am ranting why when a white person has done something they are caught and locked up within a couple of days, however what is the conviction rate on farm murders?? Guys lets get the reporting done fairly!! instead of more sinsationalism reporting! wait for the facts before assuming !

  • SARealist - 2012-02-29 07:47

    Please could News24 explain why each FARM MURDER is not classified as a RACIALLY MOTIVATED MURDER. The State should then also argue that each FARM MURDER was racially motivated. The only reason that a FARMER is killed is RACIAL HATE FOR THE WHITE FARMER.

      TenRas1 - 2012-02-29 07:51

      At least u asking News24 instead of blaming black news24 readers.

      JJ - 2012-02-29 08:47

      SARealist, they reported that the State would argue it was racially motivated, not that it actually was.

      Dewald - 2012-02-29 12:14

      Not even JJ - they said 'sources say' - which could just as well be sourced from their own agenda and imagination...?

      Hugo - 2012-02-29 12:50

      eh I have heard some talking about a 'genocide' of a certain race.so news24 does not need to ,by default farm murdurs have been racialized.

      Merven - 2012-03-01 08:36

      OK Hugo, breath in deep, and retry in English.

      Hugo - 2012-03-01 12:59

      @Merven ngake ngezwa abanye bakhuluma ngegenocide.Lokho kwenza ukuthi ukubulawa kwama fama kubese kuba yindaba efaka ibala lesikhumba lezigebengu kanye nama fama lawo.

      Hugo - 2012-03-01 12:59

      @Merven ngake ngezwa abanye bakhuluma ngegenocide.Lokho kwenza ukuthi ukubulawa kwama fama kubese kuba yindaba efaka ibala lesikhumba lezigebengu kanye nama fama lawo.

      Hugo - 2012-03-01 13:01

      @Merven ngake ngezwa abanye bakhuluma ngegenocide.Lokho kwenza ukuthi ukubulawa kwama fama kubese kuba yindaba efaka ibala lesikhumba lezigebengu kanye nama fama lawo.

      Merven - 2012-03-01 13:25

      Still denying the genocide, but hey, of course you will, being it your people committing it.

      Hugo - 2012-03-01 23:43

      @Merven where did I deny genocide???can you read?

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:22

      Merven is another example of a degerate inbred undeducated Afrikaaner trash who is bitter angry and impotent.

  • Yolandè Rwaai - 2012-02-29 07:48

    Funny how most of you are now saying "well, it doesn't matter what race they are" because it's White boys that committed this heinous act. These are the very same people who would be hurling abuse & using all kinds of words such as "animals", etc. had it been Blacks who had stabbed a White person to death!

      johan.j.vanvuuren2 - 2012-02-29 09:27

      so if it was a black doing it to a white they would be just a poor mothers son? come on.get facts straight. killing a farmer takes food away from you too. or don't they teach that in your schools anymore

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:41

      I think they used those words last week when the old lady was murdered with her iron. Where were you then?.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:24

      its a racial crime plain and simple. These afrikaaner boys are cultured to see black people as dispensible animals, they don't see black people as human beings. johan.j.vanvuuren2 - retard, this has nothing to do with farm murders

  • Karmah - 2012-02-29 07:55

    Bah it's too early for this crap *Get's back into bed*

  • Cindy - 2012-02-29 07:56

    Thugs! I hope they get tried as adults so they can receive a just punishment for this crime.

  • colin.chester1 - 2012-02-29 07:57

    Why is it that murders of white farmers or elderly women with irons are not headlined as "racially motivated murders"? Racism of ANY form should be noted and stamped out! This is a deplorable act, but no less or more deplorable than those acts that have gone before it. Only when we have a society that looks beyond race we will have a truly democratic and free South Africa

      Hugo - 2012-02-29 12:51

      if it is not considered racism,why do we keep hearing about 'genocide watch'

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:42

      Are you going to tell the ANC that black people are racist too?. Man they will die of indignation.

  • sizwe - 2012-02-29 07:59

    When you guys hear read that a white kid, person or persons committed a hideous act you all rally behind them? What is wrong with you people? Now you point to ANC this, black racist that? Get a life you pathetic losers

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-29 11:52

      @Riaan yes you are "rallying behing them" you're trying to justify this whole situation by deviating this article from 3 scumbags who killed an old man to "why is it called racism?" YOU people yes YOU people refuse to let these kids take responsibility of a hideous crime they committed but finding excuse for them. For the spelling bit, you understood clearly what Sizwe was trying to say and English is not his mother tongue atleast he can communicate in a language that accomodate you pathetic bunch, can you even communicate one sentence in any African language? I doubt...

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:44

      Where did we rally behind these three white boys. Go to school. The only loser here is you. Geez.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-29 14:47

      Dumisiledee, I can converse in five languages, all spelled correctly. I am sure Sizwe has a mother already. What's your point?.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:25

      Jacqui, obviously the schooling didn't do you much good since you are still an idiot.

  • Jeanette - 2012-02-29 08:03

    Farmkillings are not "race murders". "Kill the Farmer, Kill the Boer" is simply a hit song on the Top 40.... The hated "race card" only gets played to ONE side. Our country is up in shambles.

      Hugo - 2012-02-29 12:53

      explain the genocide thing then

      Merven - 2012-03-01 08:41

      OK Hugo, please show any proof of the government acknowledging that farm murders are racialy motivated.

      Hugo - 2012-03-01 12:56

      report released in 2002 said 2% of farm murdurs had no motive and can therefor be considered political/racial.

      Hugo - 2012-03-01 12:59

      report released in 2002 said 2% of farm murdurs had no motive and can therefor be considered political/racial.

      Merven - 2012-03-01 13:18

      2% and the rest they deny, you proof my point.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:28

      if the farm murders were racially motivated, such racial murders of white people by black people would be more prevalent and not just on the farms hence we can conlcude that they are opportunistic crimes because the farmers are easy target. Any person living on a large plot in SA is an easy target irrespective of color.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:31

      @ Merven, "2% and the rest they deny, you proof my point. " its "you prove my point" not "you proof my point". Jesus Christ man learn to read and write. 2% is of farm murders have no motive...and that is your proof of genocide. Did you do math in school?

  • Jacqueline - 2012-02-29 08:03

    100% George, I am sure this was just criminal, not racial. I think News24 is turning this into a race issue. That said, I believe the world would be a better place without these boys. I hope they rot in jail

      Hugo - 2012-02-29 12:54

      criminal act has to have motive.Couldn't pick any from the article.Looks very similar to the waterkloof bastards.Stop justifying this thing,you are ruining things for your credibilty as a sensible person.

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:33

      Jaqueline wrote "100% George, I am sure this was just criminal, not racial." and I am 100% sure you are a ignorant retard

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-02-29 08:04

    Anyone who thinks this wasn't racially motivated needs their head examined. Get your head out of the sand. I imagine they are the type of people who send their kids to Kommandokorps to instil some discipline.

      Riaan - 2012-02-29 10:14

      And where did you buy your doctorate, Bozo? Or did you also demand that you be passed? Do you know the facts of the case or are you just another mudhut moron with a persecution complex?

      Barry - 2012-02-29 12:20

      Wasn't Gonzo in the Muppet show?

      briana.scott - 2012-03-01 10:23

      fool

      evdwesthuizen1 - 2012-03-01 14:05

      Idiot

      Stefanus - 2012-03-02 10:35

      look at all these retarded Afrikaaners on the defensive. Living in denial thats their modus operandi. Very soon they will all be on the streets begging for scraps.

  • Buck - 2012-02-29 08:05

    News 24, you f'n trolls

      Hugo - 2012-02-29 12:55

      why?

  • winston.mullany - 2012-02-29 08:05

    All you people out there, just think a minute. News24 publishes a racial issue because it knows it generates news and gets more hits, if we too dumb enough to realise thats what they want then we are the idiots. They know we will turn on each other and they the ones that are sitting back and smiling because they making the money! Black or white, I couldn't give a s*&t, a murder has taken place and the scum that did that should burn! But I think News24 should start doing some proper reporting!

      Dewald - 2012-02-29 12:11

      Amen!