Race not an issue with Facebook pic - police

2011-08-28 17:35

Johannesburg - A racial connection should not be made with the picture on Facebook in which a white man poses with a rifle over an apparently lifeless body of a black child, the police ministry said on Sunday.

"Even if the child was white, or the man was black... once you narrow it down to a racial aspect it becomes problematic. Murder is murder," Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa's spokesperson Zweli Mnisi said.

The image, published in the Sunday Times, is on the profile of a user called, "Eugene Terrorblanche", a play on the name of the murdered Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (AWB) leader.

It has since been revealed that the "story" first surfaced in October 2008.

"Terrorblanche" had 583 "friends" on the social networking site by midday on Sunday - seven less than on Saturday.

On his profile, he listed knives, firearms and weapons as his interests, and self-defence, close combat fighting, weapons training and shooting as his as his activities.

Mnisi said the minister had ordered an immediate investigation and called on the man on the picture - or anyone who knows him - to come forward to assist in the probe.


He said it was early in the investigation, but if the picture was authentic the responsible person must be prosecuted. There must also be another person involved, as someone took the photograph.

If the picture turned out to be digitally manipulated it was inciting violence and there were connections to violence, he explained.

Everyone partly responsible in the posting of the picture, or whoever created the profile and those who have seen it but failed to report it could face prosecution.

"There are so many questions that need to be answered."

The ministry first became aware of the picture on Saturday when they were approached for comment by the Sunday Times, Mnisi said.

"From us as police we see this as shocking," Mnisi said.


Child advocacy groups said the production and dissemination of the picture violated several laws.

Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille said the party was "horrified by the picture".

"Whether or not the picture is genuine, it represents a scene of extreme violence perpetrated against a child by a man. The intention is to evoke racial hatred and polarisation," she said in a statement.

The picture should be denounced by every forward-thinking South African, the Independent Democrats said on Sunday.

"Whenever we see or experience racism of any form, as a society we should all condemn it in the strongest possible terms.

"If we fail to do so, we will simply allow this kind of 'sick' behaviour to permeate and grow in our society," said ID secretary general Haniff Hoosen.

  • jjacgilbert - 2011-08-28 17:39

    Just sickening in the SA context.

      Neil - 2011-08-28 17:50

      Well, I will say it again the Pic and the entire thing was pathetic and inhumane! BUT!!! They say it is not racial. Why do we not see the same "EFFORT" put into Farm Murders, especially with elderly women and children raped and slaughtered??!! Hmmmmmmmmm??? Not racial my @SS!

      Neil - 2011-08-28 17:51

      "There must also be another person involved, as someone took the photograph." Wow, you don't say? Such an intelligent police force we have hey, they should go work for NASA.

      Neil - 2011-08-28 17:58

      This Eugene Terrorblanche must be the DUMBEST racist of the century, go post cr@p like that on Facebook and think it wont be picked up by a goverment that enjoy nailing white people. How thick can you get? Seriously stuck on stupid that one.. Eish.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 18:10

      I agree fully that this man should be brought to justice but why was nothing done about this guy

      Neil - 2011-08-28 18:13

      @THE SRG. Here is the link. "Meet Nceba Sodo – the black racist who coined the slogan: “One bullet, one white infant’…" "May 30 2010 - “It’s with utter disgust that I once again see how black youths promoting violence and the genocide of the Afrikaner whites in South-Africa. I now present the latest case of black-on-white racism by one Mr Nceba Sodo. This individual has published three notes under his personal facebook profile and since he sees it necessary to promote racism, his three notes will be published here with explanations’ from me on the topic. The comment under these notes have been screenshot-saved and will also be displayed underneath each note," And they say this is not racial? BS!

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 18:13

      @Neil do you know something we don't. You don't seem convinced that there must be someone who took the picture. Well but as white person you will always find an excuse to defend the undependable

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 18:18

      WHERE IS THAT MANDLA GUY WHO ALWAYS PUT THE "MOELETSI FOR PRESIDENT WHAT WHAT". I want to hear your comment regarding this, say something

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 18:21

      @farmworker...shut the hell up,you make no sense,both neil and i dislike the pic and we have both voiced it,it is just pitiful that the others are not given the same attention as this is when the incite the killing of white babies

      Neil - 2011-08-28 18:35

      @Farmworker: Are you truly that stupid that you cannot comprehend sarcasm? As for me being a racist, no.. Me hating racists like Malema and a organization discriminating against me because I am white does not make me a racist. Google racism and discrimination in regard to skin color and you will see that in fact we have a racist goverment. Me calling a spade a spade does not make me a racist my dear friend. BTW, what do you have to say about your little pathetic corrupt goverment and all of a sudden no funds to investigate Malema? Or you going to pull the race card on me because I do not agree?

      Neil - 2011-08-28 18:49

      @Farmworker: My personal ANC website will be up within the next 14days. I expose them for the corrupt bunch of racist tenderpreneurs they are. including extracts from newspapers as well as reference to you tube videos. The best is everything is the truth with proof to state my and a lot of South Africans views. Currently busy updating from news24 on the fact that there are all of a sudden no funds to investigate Malema. Then I will send a link to some of the leading newspapers worldwide including SA and when I am taken to task I would like to see them explain and lie themselves out of that one. The site nails them with facts, video footage and then their comments afterwards. Btw, it is not white-based as there are 3 fellow developers that are also black and sick of the ANC.

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 18:55

      "...a sudden no funds to investigate Malema?" Lets not divert from the serious issues, that I am sure has its article. You need to focus on the subject otherwise it means you have been brainwashed and it is rather futile to discuss anything with you. If you had an open mind you will know how and when to separate issues

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 19:02

      @Neil well I would give you the benefit of the doubt just because you are from Limpopo, I did not notice that. I actually never experienced racist from whites in Limpopo, you are excused because you are my home boy

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 19:05

      @farmworker,you really are a silly wank,this story is from 2008 and if neil was part of it surly he would have been apprehended by now?...the only reason it has made such big headlines now is cause some racist journalist pulled it out the old stuff to bring chaos and also because of this journalist it has been seen overseas,white racism sells where as black racism is not so sort after,besides,it is a sick picture but the attention it has got should also be given to the ones i mentioned earlier

      Neil - 2011-08-28 19:06

      @Farmworker:"If you had an open mind you will know how and when to separate issues" My dear friend, if you scroll up to the start of the comments you will notice I was commenting on the topic at hand and you were the one diverting from the article. BTW, when I am in SA and Limpopo in particular we need to meet up for a nice Johny on the rocks?

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 19:13

      @THE.SRG I guess you mean the culprit is behind bars as we chat here. @Neil that will be nice

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 19:22

      @Neil...since he has agreed i would love an invite too

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 19:24

      @farmworker...find me on name is Chris Reynolds...lets be friends,would love to see who you are

      JasunX - 2011-08-28 19:31

      Well would you look at this? White people are standing up against this act. Perhaps the Blacks should learn from this and stand up against other Blacks who promote racism, maybe then we can call South Africa a democracy.

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 19:35

      @THE.SRG I am sure you are welcome to come as well. Eish unfortunately I don't use facebook anymore (it is addictive and my Galaxy keeps tracking my movement), but I will probably open another profile next year.

      Neil - 2011-08-28 19:35

      Guys, I am seriously considering organizing a braai or something once I am back on 8Sep, if you interested click on my name and send me a friend request on FB. would be great meeting some of the guys commenting here.

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 19:37

      @JasunX There is democracy in SA, unless you talking about corruption

      JasunX - 2011-08-28 19:39

      @farmworker Actually Clever Jack, corruption voids democracy to a certain extent, considering that the corruption is acted out by a certain group of people...catch my drift? You stupid little maggot.

      darkwing - 2011-08-28 19:45

      @The.SRG. There's half a million Chris Reynolds on Facebook!!!!

      Neil - 2011-08-28 19:47

      LOL. I also hit that little snag trying to add him. LOL

      Chris - 2011-08-28 19:56

      well this is me

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 20:42

      @farmweke...."@THE.SRG I guess you mean the culprit is behind bars as we chat here. " they not behind bars as it was fake and a hoax

      Atoombom - 2011-08-29 01:15

      @NEil - have you ever thought about the chance that it might be a BLACK RACIST that did this?

      Martin - 2011-08-29 01:28

      This image is sick, sick, sick, and so are those involved in it. Forget the crimes, hatred, murders etc currently facing us and just concentrate on this issue. Who would do something like this ???

      Martin - 2011-08-29 01:55

      This happened in 2008 May, and is published now as if it is recent. It does not take away how sick this action was, even back in 2008, but I ask the Sunday Times if they dont believe we have enough sh#t in our lives. This is UNETHICAL and CRIMINAL reporting. Somebody must answer why this newspaper stirring up racial hatred. I for one, hated the guy posing for this sick photo and I am a conservative whitey!!!

      ES - 2011-08-29 02:58

      I agree 100% but.....I agree. they must track him down and arrest him. And at the same token the following racist bigots should be arrested as well: and and 3 0 | Delete

      Marcell - 2011-08-29 05:34

      Putting jz face on a turd. Would that be turdish or compost?

      John Wilderness - 2011-08-29 05:45

      @Neil - You will carry more credibility if you stand up against ALL forms of racism including that perpetuated by white people. You insistence on only speaking up against racism perpetuated by black people hi lites the fact that you are indeed racist.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-08-29 07:43

      Not racial !!!...No wonder his first name is frikken Nathi....The pig was White & the child was black... This Sunday Times article is not surprising however,cos some of the commentators here make Malema look like Gandhi.

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-29 07:58

      @daaivark dont worry about neil he is the same guy that says that because people are black they are dumb and lazy. Maybe a farmers life is more important, who knows with this guy.

      The Observer - 2011-08-29 08:00

      Malema and his cronies posted this on the web to draw attention away from themselves. The pick is donkies years old. This will be one smelly story.

      AllHoliday - 2011-08-29 08:46

      Agree, tis picture was in bad taste and we do not need this in our country. But claiming that racism has nothing to do with it is a LIE! Where were Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa with Malema's song, does that not evoke racial hatred?? Also no outcry from him on Sodo' slogan "“One bullet, one white infant"!! WHY?? Why does News24 or The Sunday Times not follow up on that?? Only once justice is even, can you tell me again that this is not racism!

      chan chan - 2011-08-29 08:47

      the photo looks to me like a fake ..... there is intense light hitting the back of the white guy but there are no forms of shadows. there are shadows coming from the kids body bt not from the adults ?? mayb im just not seeing it properly bt it looks like a fake

      Zebedi - 2011-08-29 09:29

      "There must also be another person involved, as someone took the photograph." Have the cops not heard of self timers and tripods?

      Neil - 2011-08-29 13:17

      @Daaivark, Mags and wilderness: Daaivark, listen buddy, freedom of speech, farm murders are a reality and nothing is being done about it and I will bring it up if the need arises. Mags: Where did I state that black people are dumb. Stop accusing me without facts because your credibility is already in question. John: I did stand up against racism from whites. If you CLOWNS just learn to read from the 1st post and NOT jump in boots and all half way down the line with no clue what was said prior. Catch a wake up!!

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-29 16:09

      @Neil - i have seen your comments buddy, dont play dumb, your reputation proceeds you. expecially on sites like Censorbugbear. And what about the black people that are murdered? all i see from you and your "afrikaner genocide" friends is talk of the farmers, is a farmers life is worth more than a black life?

      Neil - 2011-08-29 19:33

      Mags: I do not comment @ Censorbugbear 1st of all and if you took your little I am clever ANC cap off and READ from top, SRG posted the link, I went on the site and pasted the entire thing here. You stuck on stupid? I am getting rather fed up that whites get attacked and no one stands up and people like you and Malema think I need to take your sh*t, take what you say and just be quiet? You have one big surprise my dear friend, I do not fear die swart gevaar as they put it.. I am an Afrikaner and I will not back down especially from idiots like Malema and yourself and if you do not like it.. Do something about it.

      Neil - 2011-08-29 19:34

      @Mags: Btw, read all the comment before you assume.

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-29 21:37

      neil you have some serious issues, you are quite immature, "im not scared of you", know one asked you to be scared neil. so defensive, you not much different from the man you hate(malema) a mixture of arrogant ignorance. thank god you left SA, people like you are not needed here. i'm done arguing with you, i can see you pulling me down to your level, cheers.

      Neil - 2011-08-30 04:37

      @Mags24: Pulling you down to my level?? LOL Stop flattering yourself.. Seriously, who do you think you are? Zoooooma?

      Denise - 2011-08-30 06:42

      The stupidity of the Sunday Times editor, the story is already 3 years old …it was already reported in Beeld on 26th November 2008. In their sensationalist haste to beat White South Africans with the racist stick, the Sunday Times ran a three year old story on their front page complete with the "Racist" epitaph. Don't be deceived. It’s just another ANC decoy to distract SA citizens from the real issues, namely murder & theft of the ANC government. Right from the beginning the ANC used these “Smoke and mirror” tactics. This is how hatred & guilt was created during Apartheid, how history was rewritten & white South Africans were vilified. We must remember that the ANC are students & disciples of Sun Tzu who in his work, The Art of War, states “All warfare is based on deception”. Mao Tse Tung said “The enemy is deceived by illusions…” “Deception is not enough; the enemy must be confused; if possible driven insane.” [Mao Tse Tung. On the protracted War, pg 100]. In order to understand ANC strategy & techniques one must study the writings of Mao Tse Tung. In “People’s War” originally founded by Mao Tse-tung later perfected in Vietnam by general Vo Nguyen Giap - Dr. Anthea Jeffrey wrote a book about how the ANC employed these techniques after visiting Vietnam in 1979 to learn from General Giap.

  • EkVraNaamEnVan - 2011-08-28 17:46

    Only in South Africa.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 21:34

      South Africa must be very safe, without any problems and real crime if the hawks are investigating photo-shopped photos on facebook?! Where are the hawks when Malema sings "Kill the Boer" and incites genocide against the minority?

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:38

      Not at all. The world is becoming more and more racially polarised. Just read any paper.

      happycamper - 2011-08-29 10:34

      Daai Vark, answer me this: I believe that most white people are not racist anymore, but in fact now that white people are open and acceptable to change the other groups are taking advantage of our good nature and is growing in a antiracims. You can see this all over the world. that is point A. Point B - if I murder somebody...the court will give me a clear defined many life sentences where a life is defined in years. This BEEE thing (sentence against white people). how long will this take??? forever??? is it a life sentence for white people. how long will it take for Black people to "evolve" where white people are?? can you answer this old wise man??

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-08-28 17:53

    What kind of man would want a picture like that on facebook? Hunt him down and lock him up! He is sick!

      Larissa - 2011-08-29 09:26

      Agree, there is no difference between him and the blacks which is killing the whites ...Shocking & Barbaric Cruelty!One bullet - one Brainless, Creepy, Sick Lowlife criminal down!!!!

      maneki - 2011-08-29 09:28

      I do not even think one can refer to this thing as a man. It is a sick thing that has NO place in ANY society and he needs to be removed from it. I am horrified that anyone can think this is amusing, whether the photo is real or not.

  • clive.brink - 2011-08-28 17:54

    Idiot - please dont allow a minuscile minority to upset the major issues that we should focus on. I have no doubt the photograph is staged and fake, intended to mislead other brain-dead people. The man should answer for his stupidity.

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:39

      It's the intention behind the posting that is disturbing, irrespective of whether the picture is authentic or not.

  • crackerr - 2011-08-28 18:01

    "If the picture turned out to be digitally manipulated it was inciting violence and there were connections to violence, he explained." ___________________________________________________________________ We have the verbal equivalent being practiced by certain senior ANCs. The kill the boer variety. No use explaining it away or ignoring it. Some honesty please, Government and Police Minister.

      Neil - 2011-08-28 18:06

      The word honesty does not exist in the anc lead government's Vocabulary.

      JasunX - 2011-08-28 20:03

      Actually, I don't think honesty is the problem...Based on current and past events, perhaps we can say the ANC is a bit too honest (in terms of being straightforward). I think what you mean Crackerr & Neil - is that the ANC should exercise some transparency. Transparency is what we as a people don't have of the ANC.

  • vegetarian - 2011-08-28 18:03

    I seriously suspect that this Terrorblanche posted this doctored/authentic picture of violence because he knows that he is out of reach of South Africa's justice system. I suspect he is one of the emigres. On second thought what will the Hawks do if the picture was not taken and also not posted in South Africa and none of those appearing in the picture are South Africans, because in that case the crime is outside of South Africa's jurisdiction.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 18:32

      This story broke in May 2008 and was exposed by both Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. It turned out to be a hoax by students at the University of the North West and were subsequently expelled. It was stupid, disgusting and in shocking bad taste. I don't understand why the Sunday Times has regurgitated a 3 year story on the front page

  • Wilnetweet - 2011-08-28 18:07

    "If the picture turned out to be digitally manipulated it was inciting violence and there were connections to violence, he explained." Singing shoot the boer doesn't incite violence?

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:41

      So two wrongs make it right, Wilnetweet, is that right? Wat meer wil jy weet?

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-29 08:16

      The biggest problem is that a black guy thinks he can be racist because a white guy is and white guy thinks he can do the same because a black guy is. So where does it stop neither side wants to give an inch? Both groups have a victim mentality.

  • eugene pieterse - 2011-08-28 18:09

    they making too much out of this.this pic doesn't just have one meaning.why do we attach the negative meaning to this and entertain such bull in the 1st place.says a lot about us south africans and our thinking.--

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-08-29 07:47

      Are you a retard ?!!!!

  • Cyril - 2011-08-28 18:10

    Erm... would you please investigate some farmer's about time the world made issues about real things. Not Jokes!!!

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:41

      Um..... change the record please.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-29 08:21

      The murderers of those farmers should be executed, instead we continue to give them a free meal three times a day. South Africa is spending more money on prisons than on universities. Our wonderful ANC. They accept the votes of those in jail eagerly.

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-29 08:43

      @Nasdaq7 - and what about the murderers of black people? or is a white life more important?

      Neles - 2011-08-29 14:30

      @Mags_24 judging by the thumb orientation percentages I guess so

  • farmworker - 2011-08-28 18:11

    Police Minister is just being political again, that is pure racist. The intention is very clear. As for Helen can she just once speak on her capacity as person instead always stating that the party this, the party that

      Neil - 2011-08-28 18:20

      The reason she speaks the party this the party that is that she does not individualize like the ANC does. Can you not read between the lines?

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 18:51

      What does she think? she need to get out of the box once in a while is not like the party has a mind of its own

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:43

      Since when does any politician let anyone know what he or she is actually thinking? Get real. Politics is about appearance. Truth and reality have little to do with things.

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-29 08:25

      "being political" is been racist? clutch at strews much? He is trying to defuse this situation as much as he can. If he came out and said this is white scum lets all sing kill the boer then yes he is been racist. murder is murder.

      CaptainK - 2011-08-29 09:25

      Farmworker...stop trolling...its clear to see you are an educated person using a computer. What is your motivation for your posts today? Muppet!

      Atoombom - 2011-09-04 13:27

      @ farmworker, go educate yourself and get a job that keeps you too busy to spew the crap you come up with. You are past moron status.

  • BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 18:17

    This story broke in May 2008 and was exposed by both Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. It turned out to be a hoax by students at the University of the North West and were subsequently expelled. It was stupid, disgusting and in shocking bad taste. I don't understand why the Sunday Times has regurgitated a 3 year story on the front page - somebody didn't do their homework...again! I'm officially sick of this newspaper.

      Yislaaik - 2011-08-28 18:37

      Bundu, I didn't see your message. I see now, it was supposed to be a joke or hoax. I also know now that the site is quite old. And right, why has this been regurgitated? Why has this been 'brought up' again? NOW who is the (re)stirrer of racism? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm .....

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 18:49

      @Yislaaik - Sunday Times. Since only opening certain stories up for comment their traffic has dropped. This was possibly a very weak attempt by Ray Hartley to try and get people back to his site. But it is yet another epic fail. He still needs to learn that bloggers aren't school children.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 19:25

      Here is a link

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 20:39

      a voice of reason for once,but now why has it been pulled out at this time,makes you think...and why is there no outcry on the story of Nceba Sodo or his friends?

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 21:43

      I have no idea. There is something very dodgy about the Sunday Times publishing this as 1. a present story and 2. without editorial due diligence. It is unethical journalism in the extreme. Not only have the usual racist crazies on both sides come out to play but this rubbish has exploded internationally to make us look chronically psychotic again. Check out

      iDubula - 2011-08-29 09:12

      If this is the case that it was a bunch of students doing something for a laugh - well it was very poor judgement and insensitive on their part, but who of us can say that we did NOT get up to some sort of mischief when we were younger? Kids often do not think things through, and more often than not do not have the faintest clue what consequences their actions may hold. Pathetic of the newspaper involved to publish this story so long after the fact - pure sensationalistic journalism. Also pathetic of the SAPS to want to hunt this hoaxster down when Im sure they have many more pressing issues to attend to...Not a racial issue??? Yeah right Mnisi...

  • ricardo.mafuna - 2011-08-28 18:17

    What was this guy thinking,we cant have people pasting such things on social networks,what is he trying to achieve by this?such people seek to evoke racialism in our country.he must be brought to bool,regardless his or her race.s on social networks,what is he trying to achieve by this?such people seek to evoke racialism in our country.he must be brought to bool,regardless his or her race.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 18:33

      This story broke in May 2008 and was exposed by both Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. It turned out to be a hoax by students at the University of the North West and were subsequently expelled. It was stupid, disgusting and in shocking bad taste. I don't understand why the Sunday Times has regurgitated a 3 year story on the front page

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 18:35

      Just come straight we know S/HE is white we can see his/her friends are white. I know they probably don't know the person but it seems the subscribe to the same ideas, so they should have their Photo and Names published so we can know who they really are because I don't see how they can arrest them

      Neil - 2011-08-28 18:39

      @Farmworker: Oh and you probably join the masses and the youth league singing kill the farmer? Hypocrite!

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 19:06

      @Neil as a farm worker I am too busy taking care of business, and I also know that I can't cut the hand that feeds me

      Lauren - 2011-08-29 00:42

      Neil, how the hell can you make such an assumption of Farmworker??????? Honestly, get a grip, chap.

      Neil - 2011-08-29 00:54

      @Lauren: My dear,due to the following statement as well: "Just come straight we know S/HE is white we can see his/her friends are white" He generalizes a bit don't you agree Lauren?? as well as the following:"I know they probably don't know the person but it seems the subscribe to the same ideas, so they should have their Photo and Names published so we can know who they really are because I don't see how they can arrest them " and if you took the effort reading all comments from the beginning of the article you might understand how this ended up at my statement.

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:44

      Neil has a real problem with getting a grip, Lauren. He is a one track record.

      Neil - 2011-08-29 13:18

      @Daaivark: Just like you are one-track minded.

  • frikkie.botes - 2011-08-28 18:29

    The person in the Photo is Tim Atkinson fron NZealand and the Photo is already on FB since 2007

  • demonsofhate - 2011-08-28 18:38

    But singing "Shoot the boer" is OK in the black man's mind... Anyway, now that the whole "race" issue has been brought up again, I'll give my opinion: Every single one of us is a born racist and always will be (secretly, at least). To prove my point: If some person of another colour demeans, attacks, steals from, rapes, tortures, and brutally kills your family or someone close to you, will you not then hate that person and his "race"? Think about it...

      Desmond - 2011-08-28 22:26

      What if he is of your same race (then it just crosses your mind); if you ask me it's just an excuse, of which if you really need an excuse to hate any race you will always find plenty; the Zulus attacking the Shonas, the Boers attacking the Zulus, Japanese bombing pearl harbour, Americans dropping atomic bombs in Japan, Hitler slaughtering many Whites in Europe, the list goes on and on,,,,,,, my point is there is no good or bad race out there,, just individuals some with good hearts and some with bad

      Lauren - 2011-08-29 00:43

      I have thought about it and I think you should speak for yourself only in this regard. Some of us actually manage to live a life without prejudice and racism in our hearts. Fact.

      Neil - 2011-08-29 00:57

      @Desmond: You mean Hitler slaughtering Jews! Bietjie die kat aan die gat daar beet pel!

      demonsofhate - 2011-08-29 04:31

      @Desmond: "What if he is of your same race..." HIGHLY unlikely in South Africa and you know it. And stop referring to history - that's a poor excuse to try and justify the barbarism of the black South African criminal. @Lauren: "Some of us actually manage to live a life without prejudice and racism in our hearts." Good for you. Until...

      Lizzee - 2011-08-29 04:53

      @demonsofhate: Wrong. I am white. I was raped by a white man. My white sister was sexually molested for 4 years by a white man. Both men were Afrikaners. Does this mean I have to hate my own people? Hate all white men? Hate all Afrikaner men? No. Hate the sin. Not the sinner. Otherwise you just become bitter and angry. It has taken me years but I've overcome it. And not once did I hate other white men because of what two white idiots did to us. @Lauren - I agree with you.

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:45

      Lauren. Well said.

      penada - 2011-08-29 09:51

      @ lizzee the humility and sincerity in your post, esp after the horrendous ordeal you went through. i am a man and sometimes i get ashamed by my sex for the atrocities we have visited upon women and child folk. you are an inspiration to us all for your strength of character. GOd bless you

      happycamper - 2011-08-29 10:41

      lauren, leave your doors open tonight and lock your dogs away..why not my darling...whats wrong...let me tell you why. after you have been raped by two or three and your kids shot dead for a tv...that's when you will be a racist...You know what....people forget to lock their windows in other countries as well, and their stuff gets stolen also..but for the rest of the inhumane deeds, it will not happen.

  • Mandla - 2011-08-28 18:44

    Thats not good,i am sure that why Malema was on trial recently.

  • d54 - 2011-08-28 18:44

    @ Farmworker. Most cameras have a self timing feature whereby the shutter is delayed. You don't need another person to photograph yourself.

      farmworker - 2011-08-28 19:08

      @d54 so you are point is.... and that is probably how far you techies knowledge goes

      Lauren - 2011-08-29 00:46

      Haha, Farmworker, nice comeback! I lagged lekker now. I don't always agree with you (sometimes I do), but that was a good response.

  • Mark Stevenson - 2011-08-28 18:49

    The reaction to this just shows how reverse racism is ALIVE in this country. I don't say this pic is right, but black people do worse than this on a daily basis and NOTHING is being done. So if a white man does this to a BLACK it is the end of the world and the other way round its NOTHING! WHAT BS!

      brown_bread - 2011-08-28 23:48

      I dont get people like you. Why are you being defensive? If a white person did something wrong, why do you feel the need to justify it? Its his heat, let him take it. I actually rejoice when a black person who does wrong is caught and dealt with accordingly, I dont go around digging stories of Eugene's followers who did the same. Get it? Him being white (an assumption) doesnt meant he represents the views of other white people, so why do you feel 'associated' with him and turn this into whie vs black? Wouldnt it be nice FOR A CHANGE if we can look at bad guys vs average people who want a normal life?? By getting worked out you are actually having him pat his back and think he achieved whatever he set out to do - which clearly is making the racial situation far more divided.

      Lauren - 2011-08-29 00:48

      Brown! I want to hug you!! Great post. Mark, read his/her post. It makes a lot of sense.

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:48

      YES, brown_bread. Excellent. As for your inane attempt at insulting Lauren, it is just completely brainless. You prove what a jerk you are. Nothing more.

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-29 08:40

      @Atoombom its called respect for yourself and others.

  • william.botha - 2011-08-28 18:50

    GIMP, go and get it, it's free.

  • pieter - 2011-08-28 18:54

    Pieter Would have liked to see a similar response from the Government when the 3 year old girl was murdered in the Free State by a Black guy - exactly the same, a picture is absent however when the barbaric Black coward shot a 3 year old girl - where was the same outcry for justice???

  • penada - 2011-08-28 18:57

    The day folks here will just be unanimous against wrong and not have to compare it wit another wrong would b nice, how do u go talking abt farm murders when stupid male trash leans over what looks like a dead child like he was a trophy is offensive to even mention farm murders here, this is not the platform...don't politicise this trash, lets unite against this one barbaric act and not compare it to any other wrong

      Martin - 2011-08-29 02:51

      @penada - Absolutely agree with your outlook. Anybody posing for this with a child is PHSYCHOTIC/SICK. This incident apparently took place in 2008, remains sick, but why publish it now and stir up all this emotional hatred. I think Sunday Times should account for that!

  • aubrey.nkabini - 2011-08-28 19:05

    Posing with a hunting rifle, celebrating his catch,similing ,wearing a coumouflage -clearly this is not an English man,,His an Afrikaner (Boeremag) with an extreme natural hatred living in his genes,,I dnt believe the Picture is manupulated,,Hawks must hurry up to make him join his boeties in pretoria C-max..

      Atoombom - 2011-08-29 01:37

      You really aren't too bright, are you? Now give that computer behind you, back from where it came from. This picture was published in 2008 as a hoax and the culprits were caught. It was done by your black brotha's, moron

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 07:49

      Atoombom. What language are you trying to speak here? Looks like English.

  • Jack Spam - 2011-08-28 19:07

    Go look at the "photo" again people. It's a copy of a newspaper article. Looks quite old. None the less, we share this globe with some troubled souls.

  • Sinudeity - 2011-08-28 19:17

    Clearly the photo is a setup. Anyone who spent abit of time analysing the photo, could tell you that.

  • BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 19:24

    The Sunday Times has just put a 3 year old story on it's front page. I don't know why or what the intention was but I'm done with this paper. This story was broken in 2008 and here is a link

      wiledog - 2011-08-28 22:46

      they need to sell more of their sunday rag, is all...

  • haha - 2011-08-28 19:32

    If you hate white South Africans and want them to look bad and turn the world against them, then this is an easy way to do it..who in his right mind will post a picture of himself like this..I think someone with a hidden agenda and a sick mind is taking a lot of people for a ride.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 22:05

      This story broke in May 2008 and was exposed by both Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. It turned out to be a hoax by students at the University of the North West and were subsequently expelled. It was stupid, disgusting and in shocking bad taste. I don't understand why the Sunday Times has regurgitated a 3 year story on the

      wiledog - 2011-08-28 22:47

      yip... seems they desperately need to come up with stories to sell more papers...

  • Gemsbok - 2011-08-28 19:42

    Oi, what a sick bastard.............

  • Marco - 2011-08-28 19:45

    in S.A. there are rivalry anche jokes between blacks and whites. also the blacks often wind up whites. the fake photo is a joke like others.

      penada - 2011-08-28 21:25

      if u find this a joke then there is something wrong with you, I would like to make a joke of your face

  • Mike - 2011-08-28 20:28

    This is blatantly racist however you look at it. If the boy is dead and was shot by the man with the rifle, then it may be murder or manslaughter. If the boy is injured, it is attempted murder or assault with intent to commit grievous bodily harm. If it is just a set-up a la Free State University, then there is no crime. But whichever it is, the pose and juxtaposition of grinning white man, big hunter, prone black child, is disgusting in the extreme. The crime, if there is one, simply makes a disgraceful picture far worse.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 22:04

      This story broke in May 2008 and was exposed by both Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. It turned out to be a hoax by students at the University of the North West and were subsequently expelled. It was stupid, disgusting and in shocking bad taste. I don't understand why the Sunday Times has regurgitated a 3 year story on the

  • nkhadi - 2011-08-28 20:54

    farmworker, you should know better that there are people who still protect white supremecist. the person like Neil still live in the past. they are possesed. racism is racism erespective of which site it comes from. but i am happy there are whites and blacks who hate such practices. That bastard on Sunday Times must be nailed and be jailed together with blacks so that they can share their cultures.

  • Millie34 - 2011-08-28 21:21

    This man should be put in front of a firing squad he has no place in society. How do I explain this to my adopted daughter who is black and I am white!

  • Rob Roy - 2011-08-28 21:55

    "Inciting violence" what the f#ck do you think singing "kill the boer" is??? I think it is hilarious!!

  • John - 2011-08-28 22:35

    Well lets put the record straight and say are we lead to believe its so perfect in this country you trying to tell me there was no problem in London and other major cities a few weeks ago,get a life..Take the log out of your own eye before you try and take the splinter out of the South Africans,armchair critic...Johan..

  • Gavin - 2011-08-28 22:37

    I think the picture has been manipulated - there appears to be elements from the background visible through the kneeling man. If this is true, then one needs to ask what the purpose of manipulating and publishing this picture was?

  • wiledog - 2011-08-28 22:43

    it's "knives", not "knifes".... who is the editor at news24 supposed to spell-check these articles?

  • Rita - 2011-08-28 22:47

    Morons.. everyone knows by now that it's a very old pic as the story about it was published in the Mail and Guardian in 2008 already about it. So these retarded hawks takes three years to respond to some ancient photoshopped pic. No I see another agenda here.. an anti-white one again by the SA media sending this OLD ANCIENT pic into the world again. Their approval of the murder of whites must start to be noticed by the world so now they need to DEMONIZE whites so all they could find was some ancient old photoshopped pic.

  • john smith - 2011-08-28 22:51

    its morons like this, who give blacks a legitimate reason to insult us. with our privilaged back grounds and education it is not accepted, i am a boer and proud of it, but my God where did we get this monsters and where did they slip trough, in the old days this was cannon fodder, that is how we got them out of the sistem. SKAAM JOU JOU VUILGOED. you embarres us all, first as white people and then as south african. i will supply the tyres for the mob!!!

      Eddie V - 2011-08-30 11:34

      Ja right, you a boer??? MY ASS!

  • Rita - 2011-08-28 23:32

    John Smith what is your real name? If you are a Boer I am Cleopatra. You are calling for the murder of whites just as I SAID WAS THE INTENTION of the media by publishing this old pic. They WANT people like you crawling out of the woodwork calling for the MURDER OF MORE WHITES. And actually going out there to murder whites. This is INCITMENT TO MURDER NEWS24. YOU are guilty of inciting murder of whites.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-29 07:27

      The police ran to the newspapers instead of checking their own files. The case is cold.

      Muffyforu - 2011-08-29 19:51

      Hey Rita F*ck off

  • Sean - 2011-08-28 23:53

    Mthetwa-there are 68000 dead whites-killed by blacks.I think that makes it blatantly racist or do you have an interesting Qwelane like double standard to justify it?

  • Sean - 2011-08-28 23:54

    Personally I am a fan of "kill them all let god sort them out"

      Eddie V - 2011-08-30 11:35

      hear hear!!

  • ProudlyKgomo - 2011-08-29 00:05

    Arrest this bigot for everything else including high treason!

      ES - 2011-08-29 01:19

      Iagree. they must track him down and arrest him. And at the same token the following racist bigots should be arrested as well: and and

  • Atoombom - 2011-08-29 01:13

    But the fact that FAT FCK malema, together with his useless snotnose followers sing "kill the boer, kill the farmer" is ok? I guess then it's ok to sing "1 bomb, 1 location"? Cele and his cowboy cronie, mthethwa, are more interested in a doctored picture and renting buildings from their crook buddies than catch the farm murderers. They are also more interested in disarming the white man with these braindead gun laws than actually doing their work. What these idiiots don't understand is that for EVERY gun licence the deny, they open the door for millions of illegal firearms. So, cowboy squad, stop wasting time on silly pictures and DO YOUR WORK

  • Marco - 2011-08-29 01:13

    poor boers, now blacks will kill more of them. the media are criminal to emphasize a fake photo.

  • Atoombom - 2011-08-29 01:24

    What amazes me is that the police would rather surf facebook than catch criminals, hahahaha. Eish, we are scared of these criminals, they have our rented out guns, eish!!

  • Marcell - 2011-08-29 05:28

    So, according to our rocket scientist minister they can not call farm murders a racial thing because it will cause problems. Why is it then that all farmers killed to date were white and the ancESTORS doing the killing is not white? Is it part of ethnic cleansing or just another pay dispute?

  • Susan - 2011-08-29 06:41

    Disgusting! I hope they catch the person who posted the photo, and the person in the photo, and prosecute them to the full extent of the law!

  • DanG - 2011-08-29 06:42

    As it turns out the photo was posed. Bad taste yes, but there is no crime here. Now if the police were to spend as much effort to prevent white farm murders from happening, South Africa would be a much better place.

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-29 06:53

    You as a newspaper shouldn't publish such a photo - the police didn't even investigate the incident - they ran immediately to the newspapers. If they did, they would have realised that the incident had already been investigated in 2008. The child is alive we now know from the police themselves. The victim of a sick practical joke.

  • eleanordb.edb - 2011-08-29 07:49

    RACIST?????? what about all the freaking farm murders.. where the whole family is killed in cold blood... Little innocent children!!!!!! CATCH A WAKE UP!!!

  • Fredster69 - 2011-08-29 07:57

    Nog a poephol tussen ons

  • Nonya Biznus - 2011-08-29 07:59

    Has anyone stopped to think that this might just be a fabrication?