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Racial profile of graduates changing

2011-01-18 19:33

Johannesburg - The number of Africans who received university degrees in 2008 increased by 334% since 1991, compared with a 14% increase for white graduates, according to research released by the SA Institute for Race Relations (SAIRR) on Tuesday.

However, the majority of degrees awarded in South Africa were being conferred by formerly white institutions.

"In 1991 some 8 514 Africans had been awarded degrees by South African public universities, going up to 2008, an increase of 334%," said the institute which examined education department degrees conferred in 2008.

This compares with the 2 347 degrees conferred on "coloured" graduates in 1991 and the 5 286 in 2008 - an increase of 125%.

In 1991, 2 333 Indians received degrees and in 2008 this went up to 6 857 - an increase of 194%.

In 1991, 27 619 whites received degrees and this went up to 31 527 by 2008.

Unisa awarded most degrees


"It is clear from this data that the racial profile of graduates is changing," the institute said.

Analysing the sources of the degrees, they found that the University of SA (Unisa) awarded the most degrees in 2008 making up 12.8% of the degrees conferred by 23 public universities and universities of technology.

"Some 13.6% of all South African bachelors and honours degrees were awarded by the university in 2008. At the same time 5.5% of all masters degrees and doctorates were awarded by the university in 2008," a statement said.

"Together they made up 12.8% of all degrees conferred."

The primarily distance learning, international university's proportion of students to other universities is 32.7%. It was founded in 1873 and during apartheid, it accepted black students, but they had to attend separate graduation ceremonies.

The research shows that the University of Pretoria (UP) awards the most masters and doctorate degrees with 15.8% being awarded in 2008.

It was also the second-most prolific regarding the awarding of bachelors and honours degrees, after Unisa at 11.1%.

The University of Stellenbosch (US) awarded 13% of masters and doctorates and Cape Town University (UCT) awarded 11.4%.

Eight universities accounted for nearly two-thirds of all degree awards: UCT 5.9%; the University of Johannesburg 7.6%; the University of KwaZulu-Natal 7.8%; North West University 7.9%; UP 11.6%; Unisa 12.8% US 6.4% and the University of the Witwatersrand 5.8% of the 65.8% of all degrees conferred in 2008.

Support needed

Researcher Marius Roodt commented in a statement that: "‘Other universities, especially historically-disadvantaged institutions, need to be supported, and become centres of excellence in their own right, but not at the cost of already successful universities."

He told Sapa that these institutions did not have resources that formerly white institutions have and suffer from the perception that formerly white universities are better, and the "black" universities not so good.

This was sometimes evident when employers selected equally qualified job candidates.

Due to apartheid-era education laws, black students had to get a letter of permission from the department of education if they wanted to study at a "white" university.

Roodt said that just because a university was disadvantaged, did not mean it was bad, but there were exceptions.

The University of Fort Hare, once a stage for anti-apartheid resistance and disruptions associated with this, was considered a good university.

Roodt also cautioned against assuming that the number of degrees conferred was an indicator of whether the university was good.

"It's [not] a bad thing if it is not awarding lots of degrees. They might just have a niche area. Like Rhodes, which offers journalism. It all depends on what you are looking for."

The University of Fort Hare conferred 1.8% of all degrees with 1.2% of the total number of students; Rhodes 1.9% and 0.8% of students; Tshwane University of Technology 3.5% and 6.5% of students, University of Venda 2.2% and 1.4% of students, Cape Peninsula of Technology 3.2% and 3.7% of students; Vaal University of Technology 0.7% and 2.1% of students.

The University of Zululand 2.2% and 1.3%; Mangosuthu University of Technology 0.1% and 1.1%; Walter Sisulu University of Technology 1.6% and 3.1%; Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University 3.3% and 2.8%; University of Limpopo 3.6% and 2.1%; University of the Free State 4.7% and 3.3%; Durban Institute of Technology 1.5% and 2.8%; Central University of Technology 1.1% with a 1.4% proportion of total students.

The study forms part of a larger socio-economic study, the results of which will be released by SAIRR next week.

Comments
  • lldoidge - 2011-01-18 20:09

    Shit man, what's all this stupid race based research? Why must race ALWAYS come into it?????

      kolobe - 2011-01-19 08:57

      because south africa has a history of racism.God knows who invented apartheid..it definately was not even the nazis

      Ares - 2011-01-19 12:45

      @kolobe You're the most pathetic excuse of a human being I've ever come across... riding the apartheid wave is so old fashioned... scrap it off your cave walls and move along with all the new technologies...

      Sam - 2011-07-07 09:51

      Aag some of this things need to be looked into. We don't want a situation whereby apartheid continues. I know u don't know maths Ares. But whit whites get about 45% of the monthly countries income and black get about 41%. If we are not careful we may end up having slams like INDIA. Ask yourself how did they end up there?

      BOKSUPPORTER - 2011-07-07 10:56

      My question is why are Blacks the only race classified as "Africans"? This according to SAIRR in the first paragraph? Aren't we all living in Africa and South Africa? Why can't they just report that Universities are now handing out more degrees than T-shirts at an ANC youth rally, then everyone will be happy!

      Lordwick - 2012-02-05 17:41

      To stop the news24 majority from undermining others!!!

  • Christo - 2011-01-18 20:16

    The profile is changing, because the standards are lower.

      Joe - 2011-01-19 05:38

      exactly, and everyone knows a piece of paper can't do a job.

      Supanova - 2011-01-19 07:57

      Not only are standards lower, but the stats are being manipulated as per usual. The percantage of whites will always be lower since the numbers have always been high. If 100 people graduate this time since 50 last time, it is a 200% improvement. Take another group where 1000 graduated since 800 last time and it is "only" a 125% improvement, but there were 150 more graduates in the second group!?!? It's a pointless study, what difference does it make anyway... who cares about demographic, they should be focusing on the whole...

      ligte - 2011-01-19 10:30

      yes and because the standards are lower there will be more people looking for jobs than creating jobs. result - less jobs

      DJV - 2011-01-19 13:29

      Denis@Supanova - check your percentages. An increase from 50 to 100 gives an increase of 50 which on a base of 50 equals 100%, not 200 %. An increase from 800 to 1000 gives an increase of 200 on a base of 800 equals 25%.

  • GhengisKhan - 2011-01-18 20:20

    If you burn your resources it is gone - duh....................

  • Lauren - 2011-01-18 20:22

    Africans as appose to whites??? I was born in Africa – I’m tenth generation South African – so if I’m not African what am I?

      Joe - 2011-01-19 05:38

      white

      Joe - 2011-01-19 05:39

      and smart

      StoneThrower - 2011-01-19 09:33

      then why do they refer to African american, Hispanic americans, italian americans...becase they are not from america fool.. therefore you're not from AFRICA.. maybe we should start reffering to you as European African

      Murdoc - 2011-01-19 09:35

      Kolobe, serious African European...

      cervezab - 2011-01-19 10:42

      @stoneThrower - why are native Americans not just called Americans and why are white people called Americans? your points is lacking Black people are from sub-Saharan Africa while Arabs and Egyptians are form North Africa, so if the term "Africans" wants to be used to describe black people it should be "sub-Saharan Africans"

  • Lauren - 2011-01-18 20:22

    Africans as appose to whites??? I was born in Africa – I’m tenth generation South African – so if I’m not African what am I?

      robertgunning - 2011-01-19 08:21

      @Pop Idol - According to who? It really depends on how far back you want to look. All humans originated from Africa. So surely Lauren is an African of African descent?

      Pop Idol - 2011-01-19 09:48

      @robertgunning,,What if in the year 2020 they discover that humans actually originated from Latin America or perhaps that the seed for every human race was planted in different regions of the planet? White South Africans are South African citizens of European descent.

  • Hugh - 2011-01-18 20:24

    The demographic of most of those name had reversed so the stats are not worth the news. But then as said, What good are degrees if they are in law, jornalism,traveland social sciences? These for the most part mean you have a great memory.

  • pop101 - 2011-01-18 21:17

    If I'm a trained and experienced athlete and already running the 100m under 9.5 secs, I'm going to find it difficult to better my time. However, if I start of with the 100m as a new athlete, I'll be pretty worried if I don't better my time with great margins every season. And that is all I have to say about that.

      robertgunning - 2011-01-19 08:23

      And your point is?

      Darwinian - 2011-01-19 08:53

      hehehehe, then shorten the race to 50 meters(read - lowering standards) then 9.5 secs is no more challenge. then ask cosato to supply you with rollerblades, because the imperialist is using spiked shoes, and we cannot allow this spiked shoe thing.

  • maseratifitt - 2011-01-18 22:03

    Congratulations to all. What we need is education. The naughty side just thinks that the above stats make sense - more commission.

      Grant - 2011-01-19 00:42

      @maser...... What SA needs is quality of education - not quantity. Recommend that you read the excellent article by Prince Mashele 'Devaluing the SA Graduate'

  • Grant - 2011-01-19 00:00

    Once again we are formally informed, this time by as noble a body as the Institute for Race Relations, that to be African - you have to be black! Every other race is referred to by colour, except blacks. Statistics can be used for any point you wish to make - has the Institute taken into account the fact that the white population numbers have fallen as opposed to the increase in the black (sorry, African) numbers firstly. Secondly, have they taken note of the increasing number of whites sending their kids overseas to get an education. Thirdly, do they take cognizance of the fact that a SA education is no longer as meaningful as it once was internationally?

  • tasha.allem - 2011-01-19 06:11

    I'm confused, Africans and white people? Aren't you African if you're born in Africa even if you're white? I would like to think I am indeed African even though my skin colour is "white...although more beige in summer.

  • strawbsj - 2011-01-19 08:03

    "University of SA (Unisa) awarded the most degrees in 2008 making up 12.8% of the degrees conferred by 23 public universities and universities of technology".Not too difficult to complete a Unisa degree since you have 6 years to do it...even if you are "white" or "African"-you just have to read..This white vs black university thing also sucks...

      thandiwen - 2011-01-19 09:33

      Yes, and at other universities you don't 'just have to read?' That's a confusing statement.Unisa has the highest percentage of uni students, so obviously they'll confer the most degrees.Secondly, whether they are given 6 years or not is immaterial.I had friends at UCT who failed, repeated, took longer than the usual length and still graduated.And last point.I did my final year of Psychology last year-FULLTIME and while homeschooling my children and without the 'privilege' of a nanny and maid.Length of time given in which to finish the degree means nothing when it comes to number of degrees given.I know people who've failed Unisa.

  • Smaal - 2011-01-19 08:17

    Working in a highly technical area for many years I can tell you this much: I don’t believe the paper you hand to me especially if it if dated after 97. Each and every candidate does a practical. You’ll be amazed at the results considering all the qualifications that walk through my door. As far as I’m concerned: If you can’t do the job I’m not hiring you no matter how many degrees you have under your belt and if I’m not allowed to hire you and you can do the job regardless of your qualifications then I’ll find someone who will hire you even if I have to send you abroad.

  • lindorsu - 2011-01-19 08:22

    They have taken the percentage for all Africans (black, white, pink and purple - born in Africa) as the percentage for Africans, and then they separated the colours (not races for there are different races black people and different races white people etc), left out the blacks and gave the percentage for the other colours. Good stats here. Good maths here. Now there is almost double the amount of graduates here. Ah all is well …

  • lindorsu - 2011-01-19 08:34

    They have taken the percentage for all Africans (black, white, pink and purple - born in Africa) as the percentage for Africans, and then they separated the colours (not races for there are different races black people and different races white people etc), left out the blacks and gave the percentage for the other colours. Good stats here. Good maths here. Now there is almost double the amount of graduates here. Ah all is well …

  • Tshifhiwa - 2011-01-19 08:45

    "Due to apartheid-era education laws, black students had to get a letter of permission from the department of education if they wanted to study at a "white" university." Ngiyabonga ANC.

      Darwinian - 2011-01-19 08:56

      why is it still called WITS?

      Tshifhiwa - 2011-01-19 09:09

      what is your Point?

      Darwinian - 2011-01-19 09:23

      same as why it is still called SOWETO!! Imperialist names must change!!!

      Picasso - 2011-01-19 09:47

      Wow, I was under the impression that there were no way for blacks to study after school in SA during the Apartheid Era.

      rmarkram - 2011-01-19 10:22

      They werent as opressed at they would like us to believe

  • thandiwen - 2011-01-19 09:30

    Well of course Unisa will confer the most degrees, they have the highest number of students.

  • wolmarm - 2011-01-19 09:38

    I'm so tired of this race issue :( - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at these stats and realise this is just a ball of c..p! there are more "african" than white grads because:1 - there are thousands more than the whites and 2 - the entry level for "africans" is much lower that for whites and 3 - if you're white, chances you're going to be accepted to study is slim, even after the first year entrants go home in the first quarter,because they can't cope with the workload - so what's the point of this conversation???? wolmarm

  • CCS - 2011-01-19 10:41

    Some of the degree stats does not correspond with entry stats. Black students account for +60% of University students. Why are less than 40% of degree recipients black? What happened to the other more than 40% of the total number of 1st year black students?

  • Fhatuwani - 2011-01-19 10:43

    vs

  • Zakhele - 2011-01-19 10:49

    Murdoc - 53 minutes ago: That's what happens if you get told who to partner with. You were supposed to do your search and appoint the partner yourself. On contrary to yiur generalisation that it i sonly BEE partners who screw up developing companies. I had a 55 year old white man who wiped out my business with a R3.5 million turnover. He was driven by hatred for successful black men. He knew very well I did not get any help from the government to set up my business. I did not get any soft loans from the development banks. But got got my loans from an ordinary bank and had used all my savings. He knew I had kids, but he still fucked up. I reported him to the police and magistrate court. They could do nothing because he channeled all the money to his daughter's account. Today I am back to th ar racist white male dominated work place. But listen to this! I will not for once generalise and say all white people are racist or are robbers. Yes I feel the pain everyday, but these white guys are my colleuagues who've got their own way to steal the goverment and parastatals money through theur connections. So there you got. A hard woking 36 year old black male was knocked down his feet by a 55 year man with hatred. I fucked up now. Back to Egypt under the oppression and insults by your people. It is not nice bro.................

  • Fhatuwani - 2011-01-19 11:06

    i am concerned about the level of education amongst the working class Afrikaaner youth. Many are hopeless and their future looks bleak. It is important for all of us to prevent yet another Culture of dependancy before it is too late. The reason we have squatter camps for Afrikaaner families is attributed to bad attitude towards education especially during the tenure of the ANC government. The ANC led government is working tirelessly to address these social ills amongst poor whites. But the challenge remains-Poor whites want the goverment to provide resources separately from poor Blacks. Separate RDP houses, schools, toilets etc. The rationale behind the separate mentality is that Poor Whites claim that poor Blacks will rob them. To me, they are all poor and they need to be saved from drowning in a pool of poverty. We need to deal with the psychological impoverished thinking as an essential aspect in order to create a society we have been dreaming for. I hope White commentators do not see take this comment as an offence but an initiative to raise awareness of the creeping misery befalling their community.

      Stevie - 2011-01-19 12:00

      Fair enough, but you cannot discount the social implications of 'a sense of brotherhood', which I've seen as particularly strong within the Afrikaner community. Adam Smith referred to it as 'mutual sympathy', and I think we would be gravely mistaken to perceive it as a challenge to be overcome. Far from being a problem, I think it is one of the more positive characteristics of cultural integrity. Just as the British did in 1902, we need to understand and accept who the Afrikaners are and find a good compromise that includes them within South Africa. If this means voluntary separation, then so be it - it's their choice, and I don't see why that should somehow prevent them from being productive citizens. One mistake South Africa cannot afford to make is to force Afrikaners to be something they're not. Forced integration coming from some delusional tangent of an arbitrary ideal of "unity" is exactly the wrong approach here (and everywhere else for that matter).

      Stevie - 2011-01-19 12:03

      Fair enough, but you cannot discount the social implications of 'a sense of brotherhood', which I've seen as particularly strong within the Afrikaner community. Adam Smith referred to it as 'mutual sympathy', and I think we would be gravely mistaken to perceive it as a challenge to be overcome. Far from being a problem, I think it is one of the more positive characteristics of cultural integrity. Just as the British did in 1902, we need to understand and accept who the Afrikaners are and find a good compromise that includes them within South Africa. If this means voluntary separation, then so be it - it's their choice, and I don't see why that should somehow prevent them from being productive citizens. One mistake South Africa cannot afford to make is to force Afrikaners to be something they're not. Forced integration coming from some delusional tangent of an arbitrary ideal of "unity" is exactly the wrong approach here (and everywhere else for that matter).

  • GBES - 2011-01-19 12:32

    Shocking to see the University of the Western Cape totally missing in these stats ! UWC are you still functioning ? Apparently not,based on when you try and phone staff there.The phone rings and rings and rings,its still ringinglike at some govt departments.A ringing phone means WORK..omg.

  • kylespobox - 2011-01-19 12:49

    good to see....unfortunately unemployment is up by the same token....we need to create new entrepreneurs now to create jobs.

  • TomDicknHarr - 2011-07-07 10:58

    if you increase from 1 to 2 it is a 100% increase, 100 to 101 is 100% although the actual changes is exactly the same. statistically these stats are misleading to assume that 3345 is better than the change for white students. FACT: the actual number of additional white graduates is by far greater than the actual number of black graduates. If we need to change this situation, we need to work on real numbers as opposed to glorifying statistical rubbish.

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