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'Racial slur' teachers moved

2012-05-07 17:24

Durban - Three KwaZulu-Natal teachers who allegedly racially insulted their Indian principal have been moved to other schools while the department searches for replacements, an official said on Monday.

KwaZulu-Natal education MEC Senzo Mchunu's spokesperson Muntu Lukhozi said reports that the principal of Khulabebuka High School, in Umbumbulu, had been asked to move were incorrect.

"The principal is not going away," she said.

The alleged incident took place at the school, on the outskirts of Durban, in October.

The Mercury newspaper reported on Friday that the teachers allegedly taunted principal Premilla Deonath by singing Mbongeni Ngema's infamous Amandiya song in her presence.

The lyrics to the songs were ruled to be racially offensive by the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) in 2002.

On Monday, the newspaper reported that the SAHRC and the education department had recommended that Deonath should leave the school.

Lukhozi said this was not the case and that the department needed to find replacement teachers for those who had been moved.

SAHRC spokesperson Vincent Moaga said the SAHRC had not advised the principal to leave the school.

He said the SAHRC could not become involved in the process until the department had completed its investigations.

"We have an obligation to provide them [the education department] with a space before we can begin a report."

He said only once the department had finalised its processes could the SAHRC be requested to investigate whether Deonath's human rights had been violated.

Comments
  • Shirley - 2012-05-07 17:31

    So what lesson is being learnt by them being moved?? Another incident being swept under the carpet! Then we wonder why people feel its ok to publicly utter racist remarks? Double standards!

      Johan - 2012-05-07 17:34

      Absolutely! Whites and Indians are often accused of being racist, but we just have to shut up when we are being targetted. Double standards as usual. Wish all this racist nonsense in this country will stop. It makes me depressed. Can't we just all learn to respect one another, and move on. Maybe a list of taboo words and songs should be published, so that no one offends anyone anymore.

      Louis - 2012-05-07 18:13

      If it were whites they would be fired on the spot

      JaredVN - 2012-05-07 18:24

      So where's the columnist who reported the white model to the HRC now? Why is he not foaming at the mouth with insane PC rage at black-on-Indian racism? Hypocrite!

      Rob - 2012-05-07 18:48

      This is a shocking story. I mean the full story as reported in the Natal Mercury today. The way this woman has been treated by these racist black " teachers " is nothing short of a tradgedy. This woman raised so much money to fund this school and these idiots even went as far as get the " stewdents " parents to have her removed. This woman had better watch her back as we all know how these racist cowards operate. I really fear for her safety !

      Lorain - 2012-05-08 07:57

      @ johanlombard please do not play that game with us, clustering whites and Indians together as though you see them as equals, only because it currently suites you then it's "whites and Indians".

      Ditiro - 2012-05-08 08:17

      @Lorain spot i could not have said it better myselft same with black imigrants, when it suites thier agenda they act as if they care about em

      Johan - 2012-05-08 13:07

      Lorain - In this case an Indian lady was targeted. The song Amandiya, is the same as Kill the farmer to the Indians. So I am not clustering any group together. I am stating the facts.

      morne.smuts.1 - 2012-07-04 13:50

      Lorain and ditiro...are you two on drugs? the man is asking for peace and you two go on raging about white and indian blah blah...i have seen black on white racism, and you two dumb crackheads smack of that exact same thing....for crying out loud-according to Facebook-Lorain watches BB africa- all black programs...Ditiro- every single movie listed as favourites- black actors.... At least i can say i have opened up my world a lot more than you have done yours you narrow minded most probably ANC supporting drones....

      Sharon - 2012-07-04 14:20

      this is impossable,this could never of happened,you never get black racists,they are all highly educated,civilised people,they dont rape,they dont lie ,they dont steal and they have an exemplary record when it comes to governing a country

  • Johan - 2012-05-07 17:31

    Strange that this story makes it to the newspapers! Usually it is only when Indians and White people mess up, when it makes international headlines. Surely this will just be reported in the local news. The story of that model who used the unfortunate word made international headlines. This story will be buried quickly!

      Shirley - 2012-05-07 17:39

      Correct. We will never hear the outcome and what actions were taken because there wont be any!

      Leon - 2012-05-07 20:42

      And here I thought racism was only a white phenomenon. I am sure some or other highly lenned politician will find some or other highly ununderstandable term or word or phrase or what ever to in any case blame it on the whites!

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-05-07 17:31

    They should have been fired and charged, not moved.

      Nicholas - 2012-05-07 18:03

      If they were white, they would have been hounded by the press, tarred and feathered and then fired. But then again, I cannot imagine white teachers behaving like this towards their headmaster.

      Johan - 2012-05-07 18:03

      "Tarred and Feathered" - Like in the dark ages!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-05-07 18:30

      Charged with hate speech, incitement to riot, fired, tarred, feathers, hung, drawn and quartered and sent to Australia :-)

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-05-07 19:57

      have mercy on the Ozzies!

      allison.steedman - 2012-05-08 11:46

      Australia wont have them - despite being founded as a colony for convicts, they are very careful as to who they allow into their country nowadays - people with criminal records are persona non grata!

  • Peter - 2012-05-07 17:32

    Wait how can this be racist? Im confused i thought only white people could be racist

      Johan - 2012-05-07 17:35

      And Indian people also - Remember the Virgin Active Incident in Richardsbay? :-)

      Ditiro - 2012-05-08 08:24

      we learned racism from you

  • Kevin - 2012-05-07 17:36

    I see that curiously, the race of the perpetrators is not mentioned?

      Shirley - 2012-05-07 17:40

      Conveniently not!

      Johan - 2012-05-07 17:40

      Very true. Luckily I don't think white people will know a song called : " Amandiya" , so I think we are in the clear this time!

      peter.t.solomon - 2012-05-07 17:54

      No need to mention their race, we all know by their area and the song's language.

      Johan - 2012-05-07 17:55

      siyadyosiba So at least you agree that black people can also be racist at times?

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-07 17:59

      @Johan, yes I do sir.

      Johan - 2012-05-07 18:01

      Cool siyadyosiba -I think we all have to start thinking about our words and learn to respect one another!

  • Donovan - 2012-05-07 17:43

    What is happening to this country. Is it just me or are the amount of incidents related to racism increasing? One would expect our country to become more tolerable as our democracy grows older, yet that is definitively not the case. Clearly somewhere along the line something is seriously wrong. Perhaps it's the government's passive if non-existent approach to reconciliation. They've done more to split us apart than to unite us!

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-07 17:58

      I don't think the incidents of racism are increasing, its just that our justice system is becoming better in combating these offences and media doing well on reporting the incidents. Racism has been there, it is only now that it is actually declining.

      Johan - 2012-05-07 18:09

      Quite an interesting view siyadyosiba! Maybe you are right. People these days usually think twice before acting in a racist way, because of the systems in place, as well as the media. We just have to stop the double standards and name and shame all of them.

      mike.clery - 2012-05-07 18:16

      What else did you expect? The ANC have been minimising anyone but their own party's contribution to liberation for years, and with their track record in government, they've got nothing other than encouraging support on racial grounds by polarizing SA. Don't hold your breath expecting it to get better. In fact, expect the opposite.

      JaredVN - 2012-05-07 18:27

      Racism is inherently built into a heterogenous society. Think the Balkans. There is one and only one cure for racism: Separate the racists from their victims and vice versa.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-07 18:38

      @Mike, I don't think its proper to blame the ANC for the choices made by individuals to hate others just because they belong to the different race. I suffered in apartheid and I hated white people but it took only myself to change my own being and start realising that the hatred was caused by the circumstances then and the circumstances have actually changed. I now like every one from every race. ANC played a little role to change me, that's my point.

      mike.clery - 2012-05-07 20:04

      @siyadyosiba - I agree with you completely. But you're assuming that most people think like you do. For the vast majority of people of all shades, the brainwashing works. People are constantly bombarded with "differences" that are attributed to race, sometimes subtly, sometimes very bluntly. Look what happened with e-tolling when race was kept out of the issue. The governing party definitely doesn't want *that*. From my point of view, I see the ANC regularly using misguided racial solidarity for support. It wasn't very long ago that any accusations of corruption against ANC deployed cadres was "because they are black", i.e. racist. That shuts criticism down very quickly.

  • Phelamanga - 2012-05-07 17:46

    They broke the law by harassing another person. Unfortunately,this kind of behaviour is rife in staffrooms,and until there is an anti-harassment policy in schools throughout the country, there will be more. The worst of it is that most teachers and school managers don't know what constitutes workplace harassment in schools, yet they are expected to stop the pupils from bullying each other. These teachers should be suspended without pay for one term for showing utter disrespect to the profession.

      Joe - 2012-05-07 20:39

      Suspended for only one term? Then they are back "silently" perpetuating their hidden feelings and influencing their pupils? The should have no place in the school system. On their way out, they should make a turn at the SAHRC commission for hate speech, not get a pat on the back as they did.

  • Christopher - 2012-05-07 17:47

    Name them & shame them!

  • Neville - 2012-05-07 17:51

    It is ok for them 2 b racist,and arogant, now they shift the problem and not solve de problem, poor leadership

  • Heiku - 2012-05-07 17:57

    Why can't everyone just ignore racism when it presents itself in words? I understand protest against racist policies and so on but words? Just ignore it. It really does seem that simple to me.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-07 20:50

      This is the logical thing to do, Heiku. Unfortunately our party political system relies on racial differentiation. For them racism is merely a tool to get votes. Same as distorted history, superstition, culture, religion, etc. Anything that can generate hatred or distaste or fear is very useful in the political arena. We will never be able to build a united South African nation as long as political parties exist, because they rely the division that racism brings. I am convinced that any intelligent person will tell you that name-calling along racial lines has absolutely no effect on them and is best merely ignored, like you said.

  • Roy - 2012-05-07 18:04

    Cant be firing the lazy anc voters otherwise the anc would lose power. Instead they get moved - no doubt on full pay and with a relocation grant while they find a suitable school. In the private sector this would have resulted in instant dismissal.

  • Manu - 2012-05-07 18:19

    Has anyone noticed something interesting here. When blacks are found to be racist, you don't see other blacks coming forward to defend their racism. It speaks volumes.

      Alan - 2012-05-07 18:26

      You're right - they don't defend racism, they deny it....it's always "out of context".

      Xulu.Thulany.Xaba - 2012-05-07 18:48

      Dnt u think u where quick to comment?I'd understand if it was 3days after the article been posted! Jst saying correct me if am wrong

      Rob - 2012-05-07 18:51

      100% Alan. Manu, unless you have been misuderstood in your comment. You are an idiot.

      Xulu.Thulany.Xaba - 2012-05-07 19:45

      Correct me if am wrong not shoot me if am wrong!!

      Paul - 2012-05-07 20:28

      Manu, i get your point but, i dont agree.Blacks rally around there own when they are tackeled even when they are completly in the wrong

      Gareth - 2012-05-07 20:57

      I've seen it happen lots from both sides, the fact that it happens at all is sad

      Manu - 2012-05-08 07:22

      For those who disagree with me, please you are welcome to point out to me how many blacks have come out in support of these racist teachers. @Alan, how many comments here deny that this incident was racist? Please work with facts and not conjecture. @Xulu, FYI the defenders of Leandra were comming out in her defence within minutes of the story breaking ... let alone 3 days. @Rob, you are 100% correct I am an idiot.

  • Paul - 2012-05-07 18:27

    Whites are acused of being racist but, i cant think of one song we sing that is racialy offencive to another but blacks have all these songs they sing all time. Am i missing something ?

      tim.rogers.18 - 2012-05-07 19:46

      eeeny meeny miney mo

      Paul - 2012-05-07 20:00

      Ja ok maby that one but, i think that one"s imported

      pmolesworth - 2012-05-07 20:52

      Only thing you are missing is the removal of golliwogs and anything remotely racist or offensive to anyone from our culture, community, literature and music... but what is good for the goose is not really applicable to the gander...

      Paul - 2012-05-07 21:43

      Dont realy get your point,and what golliwog song ? Sorry Pmolesworth i am very white and i dont know of any songs or literature out there that any white person uses.Maby you could come up with some faraway and unapplicable examples but its not practiced unlike blacks that all seem to know there songs

  • Chris - 2012-05-07 18:29

    Naspers cleverly sugar coated this one. They are not "racist" teachers, they are just "Racial Slur" teachers because they are black... Hau! Black reporter?

      Johan - 2012-05-07 18:31

      Well spotted - Only noticed it now!

  • Cameron - 2012-05-07 18:32

    FIRE THEM!! NAME AND SHAME THEM!!! HERES THE DOUBLE STANDARDS WE HAVE ALL BEEN SHOUTING ABOUT!

      bongumusa.zulu - 2012-05-07 20:31

      We dnt need rude people here,u must fire them

  • swmabotja - 2012-05-07 18:34

    Are we that Simple South Africa(All races), that we will be beaten by the same enermy twice? Race?

  • somikazi.pita - 2012-05-07 18:36

    Good thing Black people are not making excuses about these racists. A racist is a racist.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-07 18:49

      Say that again. Its good and unlike the disgusting comments I read when they were reporting about Leandra the model. Some even said proudly that they were actually sharing same sentiments with her.

  • Grace - 2012-05-07 18:49

    They should be fired!!! What ARE they teaching the next generation?

  • Xulu.Thulany.Xaba - 2012-05-07 18:58

    Mabahambe!!!! (they must go) plain n simple

      Joe - 2012-05-07 20:26

      Agreed Xulu.Thulany.Xaba, they must go all the way to the top with hate speech indictments against them, then booted from the education system. What defies logic is how can Premilla Deonath be expected to move. She is the victim, no the culprit. She literally built the school!! If this is what our "leaders" are using to teach the future, no wonder we are at one anothers' throats. Shame on those that should be protecting us. "Looking for volunteers to assist in throwing racial slurs at incompetent gauvament officials ...". You with me Xulu.Thulany.Xaba? ;)

  • Bruce - 2012-05-07 19:18

    And I thought only Whites were Racist!?

  • pmolesworth - 2012-05-07 19:20

    so are they moving the FHM model to Men's health? just asking?

  • tom.vorster - 2012-05-07 19:44

    Lots of warra warra about the racism and how one race is prejudiced to the benefit of another - all so old and tired. Our outrage should be directed at the KZN education department who saw fit merely to move these three fine and committed SADTU members rather than DISMISS them. It was mentioned in previous articles that the headmistress wanted to discipline the three teached because they didnt pitch for work for a WHOLE MONTH and these three useless creatures took offence to her implementing disciplinary action against them which led to them singing the racist song. In other words, the pathetic education department is so scared of of SADTU that they are willing to undermine the authority of a committed educator to protect these useless slugs.

  • Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-05-07 20:25

    Their contracts should have been terminated,finish and klaar.

  • Grant Howard - 2012-05-07 20:33

    I agree Manu. It does speak volumes indeed!

  • fmcwatts - 2012-05-07 20:44

    Why report non-facts?

  • Gareth - 2012-05-07 20:59

    They should be fired and charged. There needs to be a zero tolerance policy against racism in SA, and racists need to be treated harshly. That's the only way we'll get rid of it.

  • Barefoot - 2012-05-07 21:34

    Yeah move the racist to another school to teach their racist ways! this goes to show a racist is a racist no matter what skin colour

  • sasekile - 2012-05-07 21:38

    What is wrong with the rainbow nation? Those teachers should be fired not moved. Last month it we were failed our mentally challenged, this month we are insulting each other based on our races, what next month? Hai khona man, this needs to stop, we are all human beings. I say fire those racists

  • William - 2012-05-08 06:36

    Moved!!!???? These idiots should be dismissed without pay!!!

  • Ditiro - 2012-05-08 08:19

    we learned to be racism from you so leave with it, one white guy told me that white South Africans are the most arrogant white people he has ever come across

  • Flynn - 2012-05-08 08:20

    There is no place for racism in the new SA. Currently people in SA is taking 1 step forward and 2 steps backwards. Government should take stern action on people who promote racism in SA. These teachers should be investigated and if found guilty, they should be fired

  • Ditiro - 2012-05-08 08:21

    since when is amadla racial slur?

      I'mraan - 2012-05-08 08:57

      Don't be an Ahole .. The Song Amaindia is a racist song

  • Ditiro - 2012-05-08 08:29

    the time the aparthied gov offwhich you sympathise with and the farmer killed my grandfather and then you people tried always justified their actions that when i started to be racist, the ongoing insult of black people on this forum is encourages racism

  • Michelle - 2012-05-08 08:52

    It certainly appears that there are a different set of "punishments" for racial incidents according to your race - isn't that racism in itself? Jeez, fire their arses - you don't want people like that educating our youth!

  • Paul - 2012-05-09 14:33

    And why isnt this guy making the headlines? http://twitpic.com/9iiwsq http://i50.tinypic.com/2ewfg2u.png

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