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Racist FB pic 'was a joke'

2011-09-04 12:49

Johannesburg - On a sunny afternoon on a farm in Bloemhof, in North West, a 19-year-old man carrying a rifle sees a little eight-year-old boy sleeping in the grass. He stands over the boy and one of his companions photographs the scene with a cellphone. 

The little boy’s father and three of the boy’s friends stand by, laughing, while watching the incident ­unfold. 

Later, the little boy’s father carries him to shade under a tree where he continues sleeping, unaware of what had happened.

As dusk falls, they all hop into a bakkie and head back to their ­respective homes. The whole thing is quickly forgotten. It was a joke, they say, just one of the games boys play here in this rural backwater.

But to a South Africa that has just emerged from decades of institutionalised racism, the photograph of a white man standing over a little black boy in a hunter’s trophy pose evokes anger, outrage and police and media attention.

Front page

The photograph was published on the front page of the Sunday Times last week under the headline “Wanted: Facebook racist”. 

It also made headlines internationally and drew outrage from various civil and human-rights groups.

The photograph was reportedly used on social networking site ­Facebook as a profile picture of someone calling themselves ­Eugene Terrorblanche. 

This was apparently in reference to slain right-wing leader Eugene Terre’Blanche.

Terrorblanche has disappeared from cyberspace since last weekend’s reports. Back on the country roads of Bloemhof, nobody seems to know anything about the episode. 

Outrage

Bloemhof is a one-street town situated on the banks of the Vaal River, lying on the edges of the great Bloemhof dam.

Roaring freight trucks and buses heading to Cape Town in the south and Joburg via the N12 pass through Bloemhof, forming an integral part of the town’s economy. 
 
Although the outrage that was caused by the photograph does not seem to exist in Bloemhof, Louis Vertue, a lawyer representing the young white man, is worried.

“If people who don’t know the ­real story recognise him from the picture he could be in danger,” says Vertue. 

“He is not a racist, as has been reported. He is shocked by the whole thing and doesn’t know how it got into the media,” he says.

Parents are surprised

On Monday night, we met the parents of the black boy in the ­photograph at a fast-food restaurant in the town.

They had been driven there by a relative of the white man, who expressed his surprise at the whole episode. He says he wished people could see just how the two families lived in peace on the farm.

Why, he asks, would the parents stay on the farm for 14 years if their employers were racist?

The boy’s father is a foreman on the farm, a prestigious position among farm-working folk.

Over cans of Coke, the father, with his wife constantly chipping in to express her surprise at why the whole thing has suddenly cropped up again, revealed what he maintains is the real story behind the photograph.

Amusing

In fact, the woman seemed more concerned about the white man’s safety than her own, constantly maintaining that he is good and adores her son.

The story is repeated in sworn ­affidavits in which the 39-year-old father and 40-year-old mother say they were under no duress.

One afternoon some time in 2008, the little boy and some of his friends joined his father and the farmer’s teenage son on their usual rounds on the farm.

The boy apparently felt tired and fell asleep on a patch of grass.

“We found it amusing that the boy lay like a dead person. (The white man) told me I should pick up the child and place him in the shadows and asked if he could take a picture of him. (The white man) had his rifle which he shoots ­pigeons with. I gave ­permission for him to pose with the child and the rifle.”

Boy is fine

The father says he was not angry or offended. He seems confused about having to explain and make statements about what was ­supposed to be a joke.

In his affidavit, the father says the roles were reversed during a year-end braai on the farm in 2008, when the little black boy posed with the rifle standing over the white man. There seems to be no record of this photograph.

But one day he and his wife were surprised to get a visit from the police. Apparently they had picked up a cellphone at a road ­accident scene near Schweizer ­Reneke and found the picture. Their investigations led them to the boy’s family.

“The police wanted to know where the boy was and if he was okay. We explained the whole thing to them and took them to the boy’s school and they saw him.

“The child was never in danger. Nothing bad happened to him. We just laughed and even forgot about it then,” he says.

No racism

“My boy is fine. He is alive. He comes to the farm on weekends ­because he goes to school.”

The father describes the white man as “a cool person”, saying: “He does not hate black people. He likes playing around with the black children and takes them along when he goes around the farm.

“They teach him Setswana and he teaches them Afrikaans. He loves my son. When he does well at school he gives him money,” says the father.

The boy’s mother maintains that the incident has nothing to do with racism and that they have ­always been treated well by their ­employers.
 
“This is a good boy. Even my son loves him a lot and is always travelling with him when he is on the farm. I hope people will not cause him any trouble,” she says.

Although in Bloemhof they think the whole thing was just a joke, Hawks’ spokesperson McIntosh Polela says they are looking into the matter.

He says that although there is no investigation at the moment, they are still reviewing the docket that was opened after finding the ­picture in 2008. 

Polela says this will also help them determine what happened to the initial case and perhaps also ­establish how it made its way ­online. 
 

Comments
  • Illuminus - 2011-09-04 13:03

    We will never stop seeing each other as black, white coloured, asian etc. No amount of brainwashing is going to stop people from seeing that people are different. Therefore there is always going to be a huge outcry over pics like this.... Summary of the story 'ITS RACIST', 'NO WAIT IT IS NOT RACIST', 'ITS RACIST' etc etc.

      OHNOCOMRADESITSBOFFINBOB - 2011-09-04 13:22

      Fact of the matter is, we were BORN White, black, brown, pink etc, so why even bother to ignore the fact. Turns out this was not racist after all. Just a Malema ( Stupid ) moment.

      AceOfSpades - 2011-09-04 13:28

      The propagandist ANC regime so badly wanted the photograph to be true. Shame, now it has backfired on them.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-09-04 13:47

      AceOfSpades - The Sunday Times and Times Live's dwindling readership, due to their brown nosing of the ANC, and treating their website readers like kids has obviously created a void. The picture was a very obvious ploy to try and attract attention back to them. Epic fail, just like their new website.

      OHNOCOMRADESITSBOFFINBOB - 2011-09-04 14:15

      Pink...100%. As you & I + a good few others would know !

      Welleducated - 2011-09-05 08:10

      The ANCYL make racist comments and the majority of their supporters are racists, it does not take the most intelligent person to see it, but sadly, it seems to be OK for the law to alow it in SA, no-one seems to care, but heaven help ANYONE else with a stupid ptrank, then it is all hell break loose. Even an accidental whiskey spillage close to zuma is seen as assualt, This is one sick country.

      FIO - 2011-09-05 10:02

      I lay the blame fully on the shoulders of Sunday Times for promoting something that is so negative for everyone in this country, especially when it turns out to be untrue. Sunday Times made their money out of sales that day, but they damaged a country, and have lost all my support. I'll tell everyone I know to boycott Sunday Times for such bad taste "reporting".

      Great White - 2011-09-05 13:13

      The Sunday Times used to be a good paper 30 odd years ago, but it has eroded to an ANC brown nosing rag, similar to the Pretoria News.

  • TGSA - 2011-09-04 13:05

    All I can say is this: What a bl.... idiot, I know the picture was taken in 2008 but this is sick! It does not matter whether the child is black or white or whatever, why would anyone do this? The father must be real proud of his son...

      Wayne - 2011-09-04 13:08

      Oh grow up and wipe your eyes.

      Bok Fan - 2011-09-04 13:36

      I agree 100% with your comment. Wayne with your macmunchmuffin logo are just as big a twit as the fool in the picture.

      Atholl - 2011-09-04 13:37

      19 yr olds do things on impulse .... especially if their not a 'pranky joke' to be missed. Both youngsters,even the little boy by association, are familiar with 'hunting' equipment, accustomed to and respectful of their 'weapons' . If the 'hunter' took an interest in the boy's schooling, as many farmers do, then surely he has an interest in all aspects of the boy's life, including his safety. Things happen on a farm and the little boy probably benefits from the 'experience'. What's important here is did the 'hunter' know of the facebook publication.

      Chris - 2011-09-04 14:18

      Ah the joys of living in a country where we could all be the same but refuse to become so because we have forgotten that life is short. We take everything to serious and forget that laugh line are preferred to frown lines.

      Wayne - 2011-09-04 16:59

      Leave my muffin alone.

      zulufox - 2011-09-05 08:29

      at least black people do not joke around with guns ... as we have seen in the past ...

      aarchaic - 2011-09-05 09:06

      @zulufox Have you seen the latest ANCYL protests in JHB? guys walking around with mock AK-47 painted in ANC colours, Toy guns threatening journalist saying they not welcome? If not mistaken all though its not a real gun its playing with guns insighting mob violence... so your statement is voided

      CVDL - 2011-09-05 09:34

      Yes Zulufox, they use them for real, mostly on defenseless old people...

  • Wayne - 2011-09-04 13:05

    Mountain out of a molehill. Down the road another white farmer will meet his end at the hands of racist pigs because he is too old and frail to defend himself and they will take his television and laptop. Where is the common element in these two crimes? One is accepted as 'normal' while the other is condemned because it gets the right media attention by shadow elements in high office.

      Frans Smith - 2011-09-04 14:07

      The real racists is those that sees something wrong about it, JUST because they see the colour. If this was two white kids or two black kids...., nobody would be saying anything? Sad, that these kids can not have a joke amongst themselves. The joke was about the 1 x kid sleeping and looking dead, whilst the other pretended to have shot him - forget for one moment about black or white. Not about the white kid shooting the black kid = get it?

  • Frans Smith - 2011-09-04 13:07

    FFS - but it is ok to sing "shoot the boer"... kill a farmer etc? how bloody rediculous?

      Bok Fan - 2011-09-04 13:39

      Frans its not ok to sing shoot the boer. Only complete tossers like D hanekom and Juju think it is. But you seem to be of their moral class and persuasion so maybe they have a point after all.

      Frans Smith - 2011-09-04 13:56

      Bok Fanny - you know nothing about my moral values and class. The point i am making (which you failed to get) is that various racial situations/incidents in south africa are treated differently. It seems that som epart of the political spectrum gets away with much more than others....Idiot!

      GonnyVonYuri - 2011-09-04 14:02

      Frans Smith - IF "they" jump from a cliff will you jump also? Or will you use your brain and know right from wrong - unless you want to start a race war and LOSE - these sort of photos dont help the country

  • OHNOCOMRADESITSBOFFINBOB - 2011-09-04 13:07

    Alls well that ends well. But the question remains..... Is " Shazi39 " ( pic opposite ) really 41 years old ???

  • LUFC - 2011-09-04 13:09

    Ah man this is so boring. Every single comment on news 24 is about race. You all need slaps

  • wbs777 - 2011-09-04 13:09

    Another typical farm story about two cultures mingling and having some harmless fun. Along come the politicians and the police (who can't solve more serious crimes than this incident)and blow everything out of proportion. If that guy had really shot the black boy, would he be so stupid as to pose for a picture?? Come on, this isn't rural Mississippi during the 50's. Rather try and solve some real crime

      GonnyVonYuri - 2011-09-04 14:03

      Its not so much the photo - its the fact that this photo was found on a racist white supremacist anti-black site.

  • DoublySalmon - 2011-09-04 13:10

    People who make this out as racist should take a hard look at themselves - racists are the first to project racism on to others. So much money wasted whilst real crime is gripping South Africa, could the hawks not have spent their time better?

      GonnyVonYuri - 2011-09-04 14:04

      Any crime of potential racist nature should be given priority - if left unchecked could take the country into massive bloodshed.

      Frans Smith - 2011-09-04 14:08

      100%

      Frans Smith - 2011-09-04 15:48

      gonny - if it was 2 x black guys, or 2 chinese, or 2 white guys...., then it would be funny? i wonder who are the real racists - is it not those who see race in everything, like in this case? Gonny - where is the crime "of potential racist nature" here committed?

  • Jeeva - 2011-09-04 13:11

    gawd, ppl still go on about the pic? That picture has been on the internet for like the last 5 years. There is a follow picture as well of him standing with a load of friends. Can the internet please remove stupid users.

      Wayne - 2011-09-04 13:26

      Care to take a bet that someone in the media has a friend high up in the ANC and this was sensationalised to draw attention away from the negative press that ANC and ANCYL has been getting...

  • Bok Fan - 2011-09-04 13:32

    Its a shocking picture. No one but an absolute bonehead would thinks its ok to do that or find it funny. But last I heard being a bonehead isnt a jailable offence. In fact, with the right pig_mentation you could get to lead a country.

      Frans Smith - 2011-09-04 14:11

      you are the bonehead - if this was 2 x black kids or 2 white kids, would yous till have your period? so, you are the one that sees colour in this and thus race? Lastly, your comment about "pig_mentation" and about leading the country - here i have to agree with you. you said it; look at our current leadership!

  • TonyC - 2011-09-04 13:32

    Just goes to show - a white person quite openly, and with the parents'consent, takes a posed photo (admittedly a strange pose) with a black child & he's undoubtedly a racist. Whilst that king of all racists, Malema, is allowed to spew forth his vile garbage against whites like an erupting volcanoe, but nothing is done - Glad you interviewed the parents & published the story, but it's pathetic how everything, no matter how trivial, that white folks do that could show the slightest negativity towards non-whites, is ALWAYS blown out of proportion & labelled RACIST, whilst non-whites can say & do what they like and STILL blame it on the "apartheid regime"! Maybe it will take another "300 years" of reverse apartheid to get things on an even keel. Sad & pathetic reflection on the inhabitants of South Africa.

      RB - 2011-09-04 13:54

      Agreed Tony.....when will the people of this country wake up and realise that together we can build a prosporous and 1st world country.........stop thinking of colour instead see each other as humans......

  • BrokenLink - 2011-09-04 13:34

    The media has completely blown this out of proportion, but at least the police seems to have handled it well at the time, clearly stating that they were simply checking on the boys well fare and not any racial issues when this came to light. 3 years ago...

  • gksa - 2011-09-04 13:34

    Well, good to know the boy is fine... But I think before everyone goes off and claims that the fact that the two families actually have an excellent relationship proves that no-one should have made an issue of the pic in the first place, we should also consider why people like the person behind the "Eugene Terrorblance" profile considered it such an excellent image to advance their white supremacist views... At the very least, that indicates that the "joke" was in poor taste according to some South Africans' value systems. But perhaps the real moral of the story is that any media you send to your social circle/place on the internet becomes freely available for others to use (and abuse) as they will - sometimes with dire consequences, such as the ostensible danger that the guy posing in the pic is now in.

  • Charlie - 2011-09-04 13:38

    Sick Joke.

  • luckyboss.tshabangu - 2011-09-04 13:39

    i thnk dat white boys parents had influenced dat statements. If any case is opend, they loose their jobs. Its just how i see it. I mean hw would a parent give permision to such picture? Nah daznt make sence

      ccillie - 2011-09-05 10:45

      Aww honey, go back to grade 3 and learn to spell. We already live in fear of doing something wrong that's going to throw us all back to pre-1994, why not make a joke of it? Yes, not so funny when some douche puts it on his anti-black, white supremacy whatever BS website but it was all meant in good fun.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-09-04 13:41

    What ever the history behind the photo. It was very irresponsible for it to appear on facebook and in the press. Who ever published that photo on facebook and started the forore, meant to incite racial tension. The photo should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

  • Percy Higgins - 2011-09-04 13:41

    Get a life you Racebook facists.

  • Alyson - 2011-09-04 13:45

    Well thank goodness the whole incident was just a"joke". Irrisponsable, yes,and not "harmless" in the broader picture of our past. But at least no-body was hurting the child, which was my main concern.

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      Viva Malema - 2011-09-05 10:50

      Agree with you 100 times nasty sick joke

  • yucfgjdxgsxhcghgvdcdikfbvgdj - 2011-09-04 13:47

    if the people involved, especially the boy's parents, take this all as a joke, then why all the drama? the people that make a huge fuss about things like this are the people who are responsible for all the racial tension. if we cant make friendly jokes about one another, the racial tension is going to keep existing....

      TGSA - 2011-09-04 14:10

      This is not a 'friendly joke', this is sick! Don't you get it???

      JadedJawz - 2011-09-05 08:33

      because it wasn't just about the photo.it was also about his facebook page which was full of racist vitriol. Should we ignore the fact that he was posting racist crap, because he took the picture "in jest"? i also find it worrying that all the people commenting here in favour of "a joke" are ignoring this very real fact about his page, and its white supremecist views.

      jellyass.malema - 2011-09-05 10:01

      Go to FAcebookand look up Eugene Terror-blanche it is obvious it is a black person and a racist at that!

      Utopia - 2011-09-05 11:02

      @JadedJawz - where did you get your information? It was a fake Facebook page set up by some imbecile who wanted the reaction that he/she has gotten. Try reading all the reports before jumping to (incorrect!) conclusions.

  • Ant138 - 2011-09-04 13:48

    Perhaps the Hawks could now use whatever is left of their budget to investigate Malema - A real Racist !!!

  • Chris - 2011-09-04 14:20

    Fact is that Rat Hartley is a 'bloody agent' and hell bent on destroying the Sunday Times. Wonder who is funding him?

  • Joshvsa - 2011-09-04 14:38

    This whole situation reminds me of the story a couple of years back when the picture surfaced that had the black man sitting in the back of a bakkie and a white farmer driving it accompanied by his good old faithful dog in the passenger seat. I remember the up-roar that stirred, the comments that would fly back and forth and the big misunderstanding it turned out to be. I think it is time we as South Africans, as humans, and as people ALL fighting the same issues from a scared past need to rather join together build a bridge and get over ALL these racially motivated mindsets. As a PROUD South African I choose to stand up for what is right, just, and fair no matter what my president, my government, or other "leaders" may do. I'm proud to be part of its people and FOR ALL its people! Its about time we took a stand not as "black" South Africans or as "white" South Africans or as a "union" South Africans, or "this" or "that" South Africans but rather as Pure and Proud South Africans! Just my thoughts =)

  • SNOTKOP - 2011-09-04 14:43

    The way I see it, is that a photograph taken with a personal camera, is just that, a personal picture mean`t to relive memories. If everyone was OK with the taking of the picture, I don`t see why anyone else should have a problem with the photograph. The manner in which information is exploited by the media to sell newspapers is disgusting, they are quick to print a front page story and later issue a retraction/aplogy on page 25 in small print besides the births & deaths column. Another thing that just get me is you can have anything black and shout "shoot the boer, shoot the farmer", call whites, criminals, and things like "one settler, one bullet" and nobody is concerned in the ANC, just dont start a "white management forum" or "white lawyers association" and it becomes "Racist" front page news, pathetic actually!

      jen - 2011-09-05 07:25

      @Snotkop - if it was a personal picture then why post it on FB which is a social network and for the most part, public. this immature a-hole lowered himself to exactly the same level as the ANCYL with their chants.

  • 3Burn - 2011-09-04 15:25

    How long is the ppl going to play the racist card.I did not grow up in the apartheid years and the only things i know about it is things i hear about and stuff i see on tv.Why is it only in SA that racist cards gets delth to any white person (that was not part of the apartheid) that tries to joke around with what the old SA was like,but nowadays all the blacks that was not part of apartheid wants to raise their voices in anger....come on shutup you are crying about something you where not apart off.I can tell you ppl now that if that other picture should come out where the roles is reversed then majority of blacks will laugh about it because their brains protray the picture of a blackman that killed a whiteman.So could everyone just stop with the racist card cause it is starting to become really boring

      JadedJawz - 2011-09-05 08:37

      the reason being is exactly your statement - there's this myth being perpetuated, that because apartheid ended, all of a sudden people changed overnight. There's a lot of work to be done, and yes, people shouldn't be caught up in how the felt back then - but to tell someone that because they weren't around during apartheid, somehow means there's no way apartheid could affect them now is @ the core of black people's frustration. Of course it affects them, and white people trying to downplay the effect of apartheid, is taken by a lot of black people as racist in itself..

  • Strutmode Recordings - 2011-09-04 16:21

    Don't read news 24, they are nerdy story tellers who are angry because they cant get laid and get real jobs ,they are people who want to sit behind their computers and stir trouble from another country telling us their made up version of South African news, they are giving you false news and tell you lies, and the anonymous replies and thumbs up or down that you get on this site are actually them same nerds that work for News 24 that are replying against you, nobody else..watch how many nerds from news 24 wont like this post!

      MP3 - 2011-09-04 19:46

      yeah news24 has gone to the dogs of late.

      jen - 2011-09-05 12:01

      Strutmode R: You have been smoking your socks. News24 gives bad reports sometimes, but really. Are you actually working at n24 to have insider info.

  • greg mun - 2011-09-04 16:28

    Up to now we have been told on this forum that the pic isn't original because it's been airbrushed. Even experts came onto TV to testify. What do we believe?

      Neles - 2011-09-05 13:04

      exacly -

  • BloodRiver - 2011-09-04 17:34

    Log onto africancrisis.co.za and look at the hundreds of police fotos of hundreds of white fsrmers and their children that have been murdered, disembowled raped etc. These are REAL photos. Where is the international outcry about this?

  • Hermanus - 2011-09-04 18:52

    This is racism from a closet racist that seem not to want to admit it.The image portrays a trophy kill on a black child. The fact that he hasn't posed with a rifle behind a sleeping white child and taken photos of it to send to his friends, shows he knows there will be a outcry from the white community. This shows me he is not stupid and thinks people of colour is inferior to his race. This are the actions of a sick racist, no matter what the parents now says (under duress and probably coerced from the man's family which are their employers). Some white people in this country, in this day and age still thinks such actions are harmless and funny. It actually fits into their racist profile, which may be subliminal or overt. If it is so innocent, would they have kept quiet if a black man was standing over a white child with a rifle and took pictures for publication? I think not. In SA some white people think that by using a few arguments, it will wash away the racist message portrayed by the photo. As if the people of South Africa are still the cpmpliant oppressed peoples of apartheid SA who they thought couldn't see and think for themselves!!! In the US, Britain and Europe this would clearly be a racist incident and steps would have been immediately taken by their authorities and prosecution followed. The measuring stick is always, would you like this to be done to you or family? If not, then the answer is clear.

  • Nicholas - 2011-09-05 02:11

    South Africa has not "just emerged" from decades of institutionalised racism. Apartheid ended 17 years ago, and we will never move past the atrocities of the past while overblown stories that do little more than perpetuate racial hatred like this continue to be reported on. This isn't journalism, it's sensationalism. Every reporter who rushed to have this story printed without checking all the facts first should be ashamed of themselves.

  • JVCT - 2011-09-05 09:45

    Whatever the reaction, that is a load of codswallop. NO little boy lies down and has a nap in the blazing sun, open veld, inhabited by snakes. My alarm bells are STILL clanging, that no-one sees fit to heed the warnings signs of extremist Anders Reivik. This is not about two races 'having some innocent fun' - if the father of the little boy was PRESENT, shame on him for having any part in it.

  • mbuzi mee - 2011-09-05 09:57

    If this was a joke then i think it was a stupid one.

  • jellyass.malema - 2011-09-05 09:59

    The person "Eugene Terror-blanche" on Facebook is actually a black person!

  • FIO - 2011-09-05 10:00

    I no longer buy the Sunday Times, they are responsible for this, especially in a time when this country needs peace and the promotion of cultural tolerance. Sunday Times has lost all my respect!

  • Sparkyisgoodisright - 2011-09-05 10:25

    Hold on a second , the media should carry allllll the blame here . Bet it was a black journalist that brought this story to the public !!!!! Most likely a second cousin's sister's daughter's aunt of Malema !!!!

  • Viva Malema - 2011-09-05 10:38

    that picture is racist the 19yr old is old enough to know what he did was wrong .U white people u need to stop justifying your evil and vile behavior.He was clear about he's intention when he took the picture

      BloodRiver - 2011-09-05 11:12

      Malema is 30 years old yet he sings kill the boer. This after more than 3000 farmers have been killed. Wake up.

  • Viva Malema - 2011-09-05 10:41

    I bet they threatened that poor black family to say this was a joke,So Typical of u people

      Sparkyisgoodisright - 2011-09-05 10:48

      Hahahahahahahahahahaha , is the sun on your planet triangular 'Viva Malema ' ? I bet you believe there is such a thing as a TOKOLOSH , bwahahahahahahahaha . So where is your next comedy show boet ? lol

      Neles - 2011-09-05 13:16

      Well, the boy's father is dependent on the salary of the 19 year old's father. That alone is a fact.

  • Chuma Mtumi - 2011-09-05 11:57

    IF we fail to see beyond the scars of our past we will never see each other for who we are. There is so much to use then just the colour of our skins. Our past does not define us nor make us who we are, instead it should empower us to work to walk towards each other! We complain that there is no progression in our country, there is poverty, oppression the works, but has anyone took time to go to the root of the matters at hand, no, racism is one of them. We are our own stumbling blocks to the our own dreams. I am not disputing the differences between us, but i am suggesting that we start to embrace them and with them work together to bring about change in our own nation. I know that people will think that i do not understand how deep the wounds of out past are, but I do. What we tend to do is to play with a sore that has already healed because we refuse for it to heal.

  • MINDBURSTEMPIRE - 2011-09-05 12:10

    Pathetic.

  • Joshvsa - 2011-09-05 12:18

    This whole situation reminds me of the story a couple of years back when the picture surfaced that had the black man sitting in the back of a bakkie and a white farmer driving it accompanied by his good old faithful dog in the passenger seat. I remember the up-roar that stirred, the comments that would fly back and forth and the big misunderstanding it turned out to be. I think it is time we as South Africans, as humans, and as people ALL fighting the same issues from a scared past need to rather join together build a bridge and get over ALL these racially motivated mindsets. As a PROUD South African I choose to stand up for what is right, just, and fair no matter what my president, my government, or other "leaders" may do. I'm proud to be part of its people and FOR ALL its people! Its about time we took a stand not as "black" South Africans or as "white" South Africans or as a "union" South Africans, or "this" or "that" South Africans but rather as Pure and Proud South Africans! Just my thoughts =)

  • jouneusie - 2011-09-05 12:20

    What, now the Hawks are investigating something where BOTH parties indicated it was a private joke??? So the Scorpions were closed down for investigating actual corruption by the government, but innocent people get harassed by the Hawks. Clearly South Africa are becoming more and more a banana republic!

  • Joshvsa - 2011-09-05 12:23

    This whole situation reminds me of the story a couple of years back when the picture surfaced that had the black man sitting in the back of a bakkie and a white farmer driving it accompanied by his good old faithful dog in the passenger seat. I remember the up-roar that stirred, the comments that would fly back and forth and the big misunderstanding it turned out to be. I think it is time we as South Africans, as humans, and as people ALL fighting the same issues from a scared past need to rather join together build a bridge and get over ALL these racially motivated mindsets. As a PROUD South African I choose to stand up for what is right, just, and fair no matter what my president, my government, or other "leaders" may do. I'm proud to be part of its people and FOR ALL its people! Its about time we took a stand not as "black" South Africans or as "white" South Africans or as a "union" South Africans, or "this" or "that" South Africans but rather as Pure and Proud South Africans! Just my thoughts

  • jacogreeff - 2011-09-05 12:28

    The black dad, the white rifleman and the cameraman should come right. Even if it's a joke in't in bad taste and this "joke" will bring hate to more people that laughter.

  • Glenys - 2011-09-05 12:40

    Sick, sick, sick...................funny, not at all!

  • Daemos1 - 2011-09-05 13:07

    The mail&guardian dissected this story back in 2008 S/times slow on the uptake

  • Neles - 2011-09-05 13:17

    So it emerges that the father of the boy is directly dependent on the salary of the father of the 19 year old holding the rifle. mmmm.... sounds familiar

  • allows - 2011-09-05 13:21

    Why do people STILL do stupid things like this? How are we ever meant to have some form of stability in this country when idiot like this are amongst us? Stop playing stupid games idiots!!!

  • Blaque4sho - 2011-09-05 13:44

    We well we can try ans justify this all we want but.... it was on a farm, and it was a white 19 yrs old on top of a black 8yrs old. do you think he woul have done the same on his brother, no i don't think so. And to say that the parents of the boy have confirmed that this was a joke, come on i mean what choice do they have, they still need their job and they still need to be on the farm. Back in the days there has been many stories of how our grandparents were humilliated by whites and they would just laugh if off for the purpose of moving forward and actually forgetting the pain of the humilliation. All those who are saying this was a joke are just plain ignorant.

  • Rikhogrande - 2011-09-05 16:05

    You do realize that if the colours were reversed you would all be blaming Malema and dubula ibunhu right?

  • dikgalo73 - 2011-10-04 16:53

    you lot crossed the line ....some of us still carry very painfull memories of the past, to the boys mother and father who allowed this, same on you!!!!