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'Racist' initiation: Captain back on team

2012-05-02 11:20

Newcastle - The Ferrum High School pupil who was charged with crimen injuria is back in the school’s netball team, and has been handed back her captaincy.

This follows an allegation that she was the mastermind behind an initiation ceremony in which two black players in the team were forced to eat baby food that had been laced with saliva.

The mother of one of the black pupils, Khosi Mbuli, who is a Zulu and history teacher at the school, said the incident was racially motivated as another new member of the team, who is white, was not present at the initiation ceremony. Mbuli said the other teachers had been treating her daughter as if nothing had happened.

She said the incident had had a negative impact on her daughter, and feared that her school results might also be affected.

Polarised

She said the atmosphere at the school has been polarised along colour lines, which the chairperson for the school’s governing body, Andrew Smith denied.

“It is unfortunate that a parent saying that there is racial tension also happens to be an educator,” Smith said, adding he wouldn’t be able to comment on the investigation as they were still waiting to be briefed by the education department.

“As of yet, we have not heard anything from them,” he said, adding that they had been told to expect to be briefed by the department at the end of March.

“There is no racial tension at the school. All the kids get along,” he said.

“We would like to get this thing sorted out and put to bed as soon as possible.”

Education department spokesperson Sihle Mlotshwa said the department’s investigation was still ongoing.

KwaZulu-Natal police spokesperson Colonel Jay Naicker said: “The docket has been forwarded to the public prosecutor for perusal and a decision on prosecution.”

Comments
  • Smile - 2012-05-02 11:32

    O.o Racism should be "counseled" in schools. However... I don’t think this really sounds like a racists incident. It was just blown out of proportion. Those who are fanning the flames are the reason why this country is so "polarized."

      Smile - 2012-05-02 12:29

      No Alicia... That will only serve to humiliate the girl. Your reasoning is flawed. She wont learn from the experience. However... if someone explained her what she has sone wrong, and explain to her why it is wrong; it will serve to educate her. She is still a child.

      Peter - 2012-05-02 12:33

      It is disgusting. I would be really upset if any of the parties involved were one of my children. What gives one child the right to do this to another? This behaviour is barbaric and inhumane. It is also a bad reflection of the parents of these children racist or not.

      Bolaji - 2012-05-02 12:51

      Just like the free states UNI one, here we have another black in an apparently Racist initiation. As an African, stories like this are actually a shame to black people. My reason is, this people walked with their legs to the initiations, they were not kidnapped and told to drink urine and saliva. Have we black people suddenly become an endangered specie that needs to be protected, cant we be rational enough to not allow our selves to be degraded? This is merely an observation, i am not pointing fingers

      Lordwick - 2012-05-02 13:25

      @ Smile,That's what i was referring to when i spoken about the way someone has been raised.I hope you are clarrified!!!

      Smile - 2012-05-02 13:40

      @Lord&ck Bugger off you weak minded fool.

      pkheswa - 2012-05-02 14:03

      So smile you're saying what was done to these girls was right?

      Smile - 2012-05-02 14:45

      @pkheswa If it WAS racsism (which I doubt) then it should be dealt with in a private manner (through counceliing). As it stands... it looks like it's attention seeking. And if you are looking for an argument by twisting my words... I suggest you continue.

  • kpaul.z.harrington - 2012-05-02 11:35

    k that's it, we need army conscriptions to be brought back, everyone needs to go... serve for a year and just grow up... sigh...

      Newsmonger - 2012-05-02 12:03

      conscription was only for men was it not? Hardly see a volly ball team making the cut there..

      Rob - 2012-05-02 12:26

      Yes. Two years military for the male youth & two years nursing training for the females. Only problem, is once some of the males complete their training & face unemployment, there will be in rise in armed crime !

      Newsmonger - 2012-05-02 16:19

      Agreed. There was a documentary on that the other day on dstv. How gangs in america go through the militry training and then take it to the streets. Didnt know that women went for nurse training, cheers learnt something. thanks rob lol

  • Koos - 2012-05-02 11:40

    mmm..... I thought initiation was tradition...... now it is sommer master minded! mmmmmm

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-05-02 13:15

      Initiation that involves eating someone's gob is just plain disgusting though.

      Philip - 2012-05-02 13:30

      Yes, so is making something a racist issue because your poor little darling was not appointed team captain. And we all know that is what it is all about.

  • fdalana - 2012-05-02 11:40

    if you can't stand the heat,you better stay away from the kitchen.no one is immune from racial issues

  • Koos - 2012-05-02 11:44

    This really irritates me. For heaven sake DON”T include any blacks in initiations or you might risk getting prosecuted!

      Malavi - 2012-05-02 12:23

      in initiations u supposed to include your own kind too!

      Koos - 2012-05-02 13:05

      You got a better idea Sarel?

      James - 2012-05-02 13:07

      Hey Koos. Bring me your supper, I'll gob in it and watch you eat it. mmmmmmmmmm delicious

      Koos - 2012-05-02 13:15

      @James: That's your solution to handling blacks with white gloves? Gob in supper? Was kinda expecting something a bit more substantial based on your avatar.

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:24

      Koos & Rob = Laurel & Hardy. Don't take them seriously cos no one else does.

      Lordwick - 2012-05-02 13:27

      Let's accept is wrong and the lttle girl just need to be taught the correct way or manners of how to approach other things!!!

      James - 2012-05-02 13:48

      Koos = oldschool

      Koos - 2012-05-02 16:04

      @James: Keep your "New school" with all it's sicknesses, liberalism, drugs, criminals, politicians and lazy a$$ whites and I’ll keep my “Old School”. At least with “Old School” you know where you stand.

      Koos - 2012-05-02 16:07

      Bluzulu: Inside-out-coconut: Black man living in a white man’s body that wishes he was a black man but go confused and now is stuck being a make believe liberal.... but still white... while desperately trying to look black.

  • Bryan - 2012-05-02 11:46

    Mountain..... Molehill... Make a frikken sentence! This is nothing short of pathetic..!!!

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-02 11:49

    Mom stay out of kids issues! Just tell your girl that she will get her revenge, she must just make them eat baby poo, sweet revenge. This has nothing to do with race, your daughter was blind sided. We should be laughing about this

      dikotsim - 2012-05-02 12:32

      Sbu u are disappointing. There has never been an admittance of racism anywhere in the world by any racist after such acts have been committed.You need lessons in racist behaviours or better, think if it was your daughter at the receiving end of this. Even white people admit this is racism at its worst but you think otherwise. You must be seriously brainwashed.. Let anyone make you eat their saliva and tell me how u feel about it.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 12:41

      @Sibusiso I agree with you... this should have been dealt with privatly betweem the girls (and the school). Not the whole country. And dont let idiots sway your good judgement.

      Sibusiso - 2012-05-02 12:42

      Had the other white girl eaten the food will you still say its a race issue ? The white girl was smart enough to know that the seniors might make them eat something funny, I think that's why she didn't go to the initiation. The wrong doing here is making another person eat saliva, not that a white girl made a black girl eat saliva. THIS IS NOT A CASE OF RACISM

      Koos - 2012-05-02 12:46

      @dikotsim: .. and a black man shooting a white baby execution style in the back of her head is just another crime ..... because the black man was hungry... isn’t that right?

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-02 12:48

      Ja, we also did stupid things as kids. The other new team member will also get her "change" We also did it is small groups.(took them 1 by 1 or 2 and than 1 etc. to ensure the teachers do not spot us. We got cane in those days. Ok, I do not like the saliva thing, but I presume we have done other things that people will now not like. The guys/girl that accepted it were quickly part of the big friendship, but the ones who was not so happy I could h'v spotted in advance. Some of them, that we thought that would not accept it, went through with it and their social live/standard in school change overnight that also boost their confident and being part of the general group that they suffer to fit in before. Not saying it is correct to do it, but kids are kids and they have their ways. Since mommies and pappies do more school home work than their kids and becoming pulled in, in their school social life kids's behavior started to change.

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-05-02 11:54

    I should've turned my initiation at boarding school into a racially motivated case. 2 black prefects made us, 3 white skinned pupils, drink a horrible concoction of tobasco, chilli, cheese sauce, animal fat, strawberry milkshake and stirred with their uncleaned hands. Of course it isn't racism when it's against the minority.

      Janice - 2012-05-02 12:11

      Well said Tony!!!!!

      malcolm.molver - 2012-05-02 12:33

      Tony where do you live? I want to give you a Bells!

      dikotsim - 2012-05-02 12:34

      You should have. You shouldnt be made to drink anyones saliva, it is dangerous. Or did u drink their Saliva too?

      Dave - 2012-05-02 12:35

      That was extremely racist of them, Tony I feel for you! In a previous rugby team I was in 2 of us had to drink a bomb of crackling with 6 eggs in it for initiation, we were both christian and the captain was a atheist, we were both white the captain was black, we both wore addidas boots the captain wore puma boots, we both had blond hair the captain had brown hair, we both played backline the captain was a forward, we were both 2nd years the captain was a masters student. See the point I'm trying to make, See how stupid this is, you can find some ist to put after anything of you want.

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:07

      LIES....TONY.....LIES

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-02 15:30

      Sorry Bluzulu, unlike our leadership, I dont feel compelled to lie for the sake of getting my way.

  • Philemon - 2012-05-02 12:02

    Thats great. Lets also bring back apartheid!!!

      Smile - 2012-05-02 12:09

      Philemon - Your smal minded sarcastic remarks are a prime example of a idiot.

      Deon - 2012-05-02 12:19

      This is a new ANC lie to stop people voting DA. Apartheid can not come back, it is against the constitution.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 12:26

      Agreed Deon - The ANC voters have been lied to. Infact, the ANC has shown a desire to change the constitution... But the DA has upheld it. I think South Africans should be educated about our constitution. Well said! Philemon - Let me geus? Your small minded comment about bringing apartheid back is a "constructive contribution." Irony is a b%tch.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 12:37

      @Philemon - Get over your racsist agenda. You are such a cliché.

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 12:50

      @Smile; what's next for your hero? Making her headgirl? Hope you are proud of yourselves for teaching your kids such outstanding moral values.

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:09

      This kid should be suspended from School not honoured with Captaincy however this speaks to the moral standing of this Institution. Pathetic excuse for an Educational facility.

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:14

      @Philemon, what are you talking about apartheid is here and its in the blacks favour, BEE ever heard of it? Please go cry else where white farmers are killed and yet you whine about spit?

      James - 2012-05-02 13:20

      Well said Phil. As a white man I am ashamed of some of our so called civilised population and their values. That anyone can justify asking another human to eat spittle boggles my mind. Expell the pupils or criminally charge them.

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 13:41

      @Peter; you are ignorant. Rather keep quiet as you are embarresing the intelligent white man (Smile is also excluded). BEE/AA is a tool to correct the wrongs of our history. In this instance you are justifying & promoting the behaviour of a racist on the principle of a humiliating act towards persons not considered their equal.

      Peter - 2012-05-02 14:07

      @Philemon nope im pretty sure im not being ignorant and im pretty sure your a racist. So any argument you have is biased and one sided and therefor null and void... but anyway I'm not justifying anything, you are just a racist and a troll looking for any reason to hate on white people. Have you spoken to the girl personally? do you know it was meant to be a racist gesture and not just a girl making 2 other girls go through initiation? Wheres your proof that it racist? because a white person does something to a black person thats racist in your eyes if i cut you off in traffic no doubt youll think it was a racist move.

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 14:30

      @Peter; your lack of judgement is offensive. Why was the white girl not there/excluded? Her friends were protecting her from participating in an embarresing act. You are welcome to laugh off my arguments as null & void, but please do so at your own risk. I hope your domestic spits in your supper tonight.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 14:48

      Philemon- STFU... you are full of s&%t. Why dont you spew hate elsewhere.

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 15:04

      @Smile; Did I struck a nerve? Get too close to truth for your comfort? Why so angry? Wake up & smell the crap you are shovelling!

      Smile - 2012-05-02 16:49

      Truth mwhahaha? What would you know about truth? You have been lied to your whole entire miserable life.

      Peter - 2012-05-02 17:35

      @Philemon HAHAHAHA typical, what because im white i have a maid? Please i can look after myself. Where was the white girl? probably getting some other kind of initiation, STFU u have no facts on which to base your argument. "Please do at your own risk" are you threatening me now? because im not an arrogant, moronic stuck up racist like you? Lol u make me smile phil. Wouldnt surprise me if you were one of those ous that was raping that mentally ill girl from soweto... Oh wait what? that wasnt a white man so it didnt happen hey? jeez i guess we dont like things that arent racist hey phil

  • Jason - 2012-05-02 12:06

    Well don't know when I was in school we had initiation and they could be very harsh at times but really it was just part of what happens... The option of saying no was always available it could annoy the team leadership but they couldn't force you to do anything. So I don't buy the racist tag to this story as these things have always happened and blacks aren't singled out!

      dikotsim - 2012-05-02 12:36

      If human saliva or any human excretions is added to the concotion just because it is done to blacks, then it is pure racism of teh worst kind.

  • Manu - 2012-05-02 12:13

    The bigger question here should be "Why are such dehumanising initiations allowed in the first place?"

  • Tanie - 2012-05-02 12:14

    Saliva is one of the human body fluid and Viruses like the HI and Hepatitis is found in it. The perpetrators should be brought to book for attempted murder, racism is just an ideology and a very individualistic issue. Lock the bustards up and stigmatize them,give them forensic history and they will learn for the rest of their lives.

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:13

      Agreed,

      Smile - 2012-05-02 16:51

      You both need to be locked up...

  • Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 12:16

    Weird how only whites are racist all over the world. I have never heard of a black been a racist. Eish

      dikotsim - 2012-05-02 12:38

      Pieter, come back ot our world and i will tell you many incidences of white racism claims.

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 12:54

      Hael af jou oogklappe drol.

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:15

      Pieter in the Sky with Diamonds.....Wakeup...

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 13:37

      Amassing, no descent answers. It makes a person think!!!!!!!

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:51

      Brett does not mind a can of Urine, Pieter are you into this as well?

      James - 2012-05-02 14:34

      Pieter = old school. let him live in oranje

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 14:47

      News24 Idiots! Pieter has not answered the question! @ Pieter; If you found out that your domestic spit in your supper, would you give her a raise?

      Brett - 2012-05-02 14:58

      Shame bluzulu you missed the point entirely didnt you little sissy girl?

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 14:59

      Surely you haven't had any good old fun in your life Philemon. O damn mentioning old again. All you can bla abou, is attacking personnel issues that you might be part of aswell. Hahaha

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 15:06

      I do not consider humiliating others in public as fun. Maybe it has something to do with your upbringing. I see that you are not willing to answer my question. Hypocrite maybe?

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 15:19

      Back to the point. What was you actual question again. I still stick to my point. Have you ever heard a person calling a black man racist? I haven't yet. May be it is a media thing.

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 15:30

      Pieter; My question was (for the 3rd time) if your domestic spat in your supper will you give her a raise? Yes I have read many articles of black men being called racists. Julius Malema and Jimmy Manyi jumps to mind immediately.

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 15:36

      Sure. It wouldn't be the first time. Point taken. In public this could get out of hand ( initiation ) There's a place for every thing.

      James - 2012-05-02 15:53

      Still no answer Piet

      Smile - 2012-05-02 16:57

      dikotsim, Philemon, bluzulu, and James... WHy dont you c&nts go fudge yourselves you racist pigs. For the love of God, I hope you dont represent the majority of black people; if you do then then South Africa is doomed.

      James - 2012-05-03 11:24

      @Smile Check out my avatar carefully. This one is directed at you

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-02 12:18

    This tendency of South Africans of making everything be about race, makes me sick, kids cannot be kids anymore

      dikotsim - 2012-05-02 12:42

      You sound like one heck of a pleaser Sbu.I bet you would be saying something very different had the incident been the other way round. I think i'm gonna get sick.

      Sibusiso - 2012-05-02 12:50

      Dikotsi did you grow up in a test tube? In a society there are bullies and this is a case of someone being bullied not racism

      Philemon - 2012-05-02 12:57

      Sibusiso is either a troll or a coconut.

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:11

      Both, An Indoctrinated unit....taught to hate his own people. An Idiota ....what happens when he looks in the mirror???

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:15

      @Sibusiso finally someone that thinks for themselves! thank you for agreeing this is not race related

      lwando.poni - 2012-05-02 13:19

      Wow! from the reaction I'm convinced now more than ever that some people prefer an Apartheid like system of separating races... too bad for them that most of us dont give two squirts of piss what race the next person is.

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:20

      @Philemon please your the only troll inciting racial hate

      James - 2012-05-02 13:22

      siusiso = troll

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:28

      James = troll

      James - 2012-05-02 14:41

      AHAHAHAHA. Sibusiso masquerading as a black person. How shallow and pathetic

      Smile - 2012-05-02 18:02

      James - Funny you would mention pathetic. In any case... just because Sibusiso is talking sense doesnt mean he is white. YOU ARE RACSIST!

      James - 2012-05-03 12:45

      @Smile Dude, you have issues. Seek some anger managment classes. Once completed emigrate

  • Malavi - 2012-05-02 12:19

    if it was my child you won't hear it from the news...you will only hear how the netball captain is fighting for her life in hospital after getting a mother of all beating.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 18:02

      Malavi!!! That why we need people like you locked up!

  • Deon - 2012-05-02 12:21

    Inititians is part of most schools and Universities and res. "culture". As long as they don't go overboard it is fine. I can still recall my time at Eendrag US, good times.

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-02 12:25

    Dear Alien if you are out there , please splash us with green paint so that all human species can stop this black and white nonsense.

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 12:29

      Hear Hear

      Loodpil - 2012-05-02 13:36

      but... but... but... but what are we going to blame for our own stupidity then ?

  • Rob - 2012-05-02 12:27

    Never niss an opportunity do they ! They in case anyone asks = blacks.

      sabongam - 2012-05-02 12:43

      Here we go again, with nonsense.What bloody opportunity, Rob? I personally went through initiation at an all boys school(Maritzburg College) to be specific and Old College boys know all about it. As much as I did go through it, I would never allow my kid to be made to eat saliva from anyone,black or white. Now, Rob, would you eat someone else's saliva or allow you kids to do so?

      Rob - 2012-05-02 12:51

      Hell no ! And I'd be upset too. But why the race card from educator Mama ?

      lwando.poni - 2012-05-02 13:15

      And I suppose 'educator mama' speaks for all black people. You're very arrogant Rob.

  • muriel.proudfoot - 2012-05-02 12:47

    Dear Black People... are you so uncomfortable in your own skins that you are compelled to connotate EVERYTHING to racism????

      Sibusiso - 2012-05-02 13:06

      I'm black and I think this had nothing to do with race. Stop generalizing, we are trying to build a unified South Africa, these tendencies of generalizing are taking us back-18 years

      Sibusiso - 2012-05-02 13:07

      I'm black and I think this had nothing to do with race. Stop generalizing, we are trying to build a unified South Africa, these tendencies of generalizing are taking us back-18 years

      lwando.poni - 2012-05-02 13:13

      I personally wouldnt dream of being any other race other than being umXhosa (black). You're an egocentric troll for using such a dumb generalization. You obviously have very little respect for other people

      Smile - 2012-05-02 18:06

      @lwando.poni Your facebook pic tells us all that we need to know about respect. mwhahaha... You cant even hadle your alchohol schoolboy.

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-05-02 12:49

    But why, I just don't understand sometimes when it comes to race in South Africa. These girls are young and what could be an influence for them to racialy abuse other kids at school? We need a change

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:19

      Its got nothing to do with race, the girl never admitted to doing it as a racial abuse, they just happened to be black stop playing the race card please

  • helen.derobillard - 2012-05-02 12:49

    This was not a racial thing, if anyone was causing a racial isues it was the mother of the child the school teacher, the teacher should have been suspended for her actions, toy-toying at the gates of the school,is madness, if you cannot handle the white mans way of doing things stick to your own schools, spitting in the baby purity is not a good thing, but hell things where taken to far & thanks to the teacher of Ferrum High Scool, get the chip off ypur shoulder, before you educate the whites.

      Malizba Liz Mhlanga - 2012-05-02 13:13

      Is that all you can say? shame on you is putting a saliva on food a whites way of doing things?you have no rite of choosing where blacks must attend school in their own land you will rot in hell

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:20

      Try some Education yourself, Helen.

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:22

      @bluzulu try some actual debating, your little snarky troll comments add nothing to the discussion

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:23

      @Malizba Liz Mhlanga, if you knew anything about religion, you wouldnt be such a hateful person, its more likely you will end up in hell

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:33

      Debate....hahahahahaa So people can pick on my Late parents and my family? So that people can call me derogatory names that NEWS24 gladly allows? No thanks Peter, Leave a comment as I am allowed to and move on.

      Brett - 2012-05-02 13:37

      No bluzulu debate so that we can see you for the fool that you are.

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:37

      @bluzulu, not to be rude but wtf do your parents have to do with this or any of your family for that matter?... your not making comments though your trolling theres a difference beleive it or not

      Malizba Liz Mhlanga - 2012-05-02 13:39

      @peter its better because there are people who knows how to deal with kind of people like you and Helen your match Lol

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:47

      @Malizba Liz Mhlanga dont waste your time on an english website if you cant form a sentence that makes sense. I cant argue because i dont have the slightest idea what you are rambling on about. "People like you" what white people? are you racist mama Mhlanga? Racist people go to hell for not tolerating others you know.

      lwando.poni - 2012-05-02 13:54

      If you cant handle Africa go back to Europe mbobo!!

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:55

      Exactly Peter, Now teach some of your educated(loosely applied) Detractors this simple notion, Thanks.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 18:12

      Malizba Liz Mhlanga , bluzulu , lwando.poni - Dammit you are fools. :( You cannot even open your mouths with out smelling the b&llsh&t! Helen made a good point, yet you cant get past your own ignorance yo acknolege it!

  • Tebogo - 2012-05-02 12:57

    This is what you get when you raise your children as superior to other races! This girl will never change! The mistake Mandela

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:17

      @Tebogo, and you are what we get when we have a racist breed with a moron. Not everything is about race you just like to think it is so people can feel sorry for you

      Smile - 2012-05-02 18:15

      Tebogo!!! Eish - You are an idiot...

  • bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:06

    Speaks to the Culture and Moral standing of this Institution,

  • Peter - 2012-05-02 13:10

    PLEASE READ! this has absolutely f&*k all to do with racism. So what if they were black? Just because there were 3 new memebers and 2 were black and one was not there does not make it racist. Did they even say why the white player was not there? no they didnt so STFU! initiation is initiation there have been far far worse forms! pupils get beaten at some schools yet this makes news. And I guarantee you there are initiation rituals that involve black students on white students. So f**k off with your high and might racist stance. You play this card daily get over your selves

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:31

      Yes keep thumbing down my comments and you just prove that you are so racist that a color has to be associated with every action someone makes. Well done on proving to the world you are a complete racist.

  • Positive - 2012-05-02 13:13

    Once again most people missing the point here , its not the actual incident that's the problem , but in the context of how its been portrayed. If its an initiation that everyone gets when they join the team then it wouldn't been a problem but there was also a new white girl that did'nt had to do it , I mean I will feel the same way what makes the new white girl more special ? And why do I have to do it. I know its not that serious but we should always try to be fare in whatever we do Good on you girl, let it be a wake call to everyone

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:32

      "a new white girl that did'nt had to do it" you see the whole race argument falls apart at this. They didnt say why she didnt do it... maybe they gave her a different worse form of initiation, but no everyone must look at it as a race thing

      Positive - 2012-05-02 14:13

      You see peter I understand what your saying whether the w girl did or did not is not the case but the b girl's and parents perception was that the other girl did do it , and that angered them , and too many times the race card kicks in , whether it's racism or socialism how ever you say it and we all tend to forget that its not always about your views and you have to respect other peoples views as well

  • michael.falatsi - 2012-05-02 13:19

    white people and their insecurities,why treat anothe human being like dirt.i simply dont blame the captain she was tought by her parents that kind of behavour so all white people are the same like it or not deep down inside you dispice black people who did nothing to you

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:26

      @michael.falatsi i take it deep down inside you obviously despise white people... don't be a hypocrite! Black people also treat other people like dirt get off your high horse you fool. No one despises white or black people besides racists. White people are just tired of the government that happens to be black, do yourself a favor and educate yourself

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:29

      If this was a one off....no problem. However this type of incident has happened in the past , Now we have to set standards nevertheless this institution did not complete this simple task.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 18:19

      What? WHite people and there insecurities? What have you been smoking? You are the one bringing up race? Who insecure now?

  • dkatse - 2012-05-02 13:23

    Why everything got to do with racism? Just because the white playes was absent,they say its racism...mxm we nid to get over ourselves now!

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:40

      Well said! thats my point they never said what happened to the white player and why she was absent. That is a key to the entire article and whether or not you can actually start to call it racist.

      lwando.poni - 2012-05-02 16:23

      No I dont need to get over myself because I have never used the race card in my life. I've been f**d up by many people of different races but I dont cry racism everytime and there are millions of blacks like me, dont feed into the bull***t. That women needs to get over herself. Dont fuel these rants by these racist douchebags. Not all black people cry racism!

  • CliveK - 2012-05-02 13:33

    If the black girls went through a different initiation to the white girls, this is racism pure and simple - finish and klaar. A wrong messge is being sent by condoning such actions. Old white guy speaking.

      Peter - 2012-05-02 13:44

      How do you know the white girls initiation wasnt worse? or why dont you question why she didnt go through that initiation? Why fuel the racism factor without asking questions CliveK?

  • ian.bosch - 2012-05-02 13:43

    why is it that when anything happens to a black that also happens to a white its immediatley labelled racist by the black but accepted by the whites.. white pupils undergo the same treatment but dont cry about it..if i choose not to date a black woman am i a racist for this or is it that becos she is black they should get a special dispensation which just leads to more of 1the african begging bowl hand out syndrome.. wake up people.. blacks are just as racist if not more.. and are not entitle to their entitlement attitrude anymore.. aprtrheid is dead and byuries get over it and accept you are black and thats that..you are treated the way YOU make others treat you.,..

      lwando.poni - 2012-05-02 13:50

      You really are a bosh

      Peter - 2012-05-02 14:13

      @lwando.poni - and you really are a poni?

      tnmunyai - 2012-05-02 16:18

      This is a stupid coment

  • Dan - 2012-05-02 13:48

    saliva flaroured cola, anyone? hmmm, yummy!

  • neo.mmatli1 - 2012-05-02 13:50

    Obviously,the principal will defend the act and the school.Why hand back the captaincy,if such a disputed is still be addressed? She(the captain)must be made to eat all that rubbish herself, seeing that she was fine with doing ti.This has nothing to do with race,but pure principles period.It should have been dealt with privately.

  • Nicolaas - 2012-05-02 13:56

    why is it a problem, people eat each other saliva all the time, remember that when u passionate kiss ur wife, husband, boy or girlfriend?

      Dan - 2012-05-02 14:46

      yah, but i obviously don't go around kissing and eating saliva off everyone i come across? duh...

      tnmunyai - 2012-05-02 16:12

      Ja! I see. Some people are mentaly sick.

      Yamkela - 2012-05-08 21:12

      How old are u? Oh let me gues 19 years agh NO WAYS u are 14 years old

  • Positive - 2012-05-02 14:44

    We should all stop with this nonsense of trying to protect and hide the K*K that people do that's why we can't move forward as an democratic country , I think we all need to get educated regarding this topic because we miss the hole point of you must be accountable for your actions , I mean It's amazing to see how many mostly whites wants to protect and prove sometimes , this b girl felt it was unfair I mean we don't know\r\n what was said during this initiation we were not there so how can we say it was not racism. Stop with stereotyping and labeling people it's Bullcrap man

      Manu - 2012-05-02 18:06

      You make a very good point here! When quantifying harm it's the values of the victim that have to be considered first and the values of the antagonist considered last. Let's for a moment suppose that the students were muslims and the initiators were chrisitian. Let's further suppose that the christian students maliciously fed the muslim students pork. There would be riots at that school! ... and if christians were to excuse themselves by saying we also eat pork, it will anger muslims even more because it would demonstrate that the christians refuse to acknowledge the values of muslims. Blacks do not engage in these kind of humiliating initiation rites. The mother of those girls knows this. So I can understand why she went ballistic. So the school not properly acknowledging the damage done to her and daughter's esteem must have cut even more deeply. It's the same with the death Scicheka. Many of the usual suspects were defending their torrid actions and comments on the basis that it was acceptable culture/practice in the white community. But what about the offence caused to the black community? Does that not matter?

  • lwando.poni - 2012-05-02 14:49

    This probably isnt a racial issue but I would knock the teeth out of any person that fed my child their saliva.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-02 15:50

      I agree and yes, saliva is not on!!! Shows you some kids just don't think...or take the time to think. They are rushing so over stuff that one would think live is shorter for them. Just ask them to show you something new on the web or pc and you will be surprise how fast they try to do things. Making mistakes and have to do it over using the same time my slower, but correct approach is using. They must do it fast without thinking. :)

  • Michael - 2012-05-10 09:31

    more political crap....hows bout the woman cacuasian lady shot in her face yesterday for wearing the skin she was born in....

  • Siwe - 2012-05-11 10:39

    This new trend of every act being regarded as racist has made its way all over SA, suddenly initiation at schools has been changed from being a tradition to a family issue where mum can go and complain. Fine, they where not supposed to feed them saliva, but the ladies being initiated could have said no in any case. this has got nothing to do with the whole country and could have been dealt with by the Netball coaCH. Not a day goes by without someone complaining about another being racist towards them. Do people actaully understand the meaning of the word, or are they just using as a means of escape in whatever situation they find themselves in.

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