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'Racist' initiation: Pupil faces charges

2012-03-13 10:33

Newcastle - A top netball player at a Newcastle school is under criminal investigation for duping two new teammates into eating baby food, allegedly laced with saliva, during an initiation ceremony.

Police are investigating a case of crimen injuria against the Grade 11 pupil at Ferrum High School in the northern KwaZulu-Natal town, amid accusations of racism.

She was also suspended from participating in sports pending the finalisation of an inquiry by the KZN education department.

The pupil’s mother declined to comment on Monday night.

School racially polarised

A Ferrum High pupil told The Witness the incident had racially polarised the school, with white pupils siding with the Grade 11 pupil and black pupils backing the two new players, aged 17 and 18.

She said it was not even certain that there was saliva in the baby food.

Khosi Mbuli, the mother of the 18-year-old, is a Zulu teacher at the school. She and other parents picketed outside the school on Monday in protest at its alleged tardiness in dealing with the matter.

Mbuli said she reported the incident to the school governing body on Thursday - the day of the incident - but no action was taken.

This was clear from a netball match on Saturday, when the girl was still playing in the team and had allegedly showed no remorse.

The initiation occurred on the school premises.

Although there were three new players in the team, only the two black teammates were present.

It was not clear why the third player was not there

An angry Mbuli said: “This is wrong. It is racism.

“Why was the white girl not there when they were forced to drink this Purity?

“Just because they are black they are treated this way. No, this thing needs to end.

“They planned this in their class to do it to blacks. They see nothing wrong to this thing. Some even say it’s not a big deal. They are affected psychologically.”

Dignity violated


She said her child was traumatised and would receive counselling.

Asked whether the protest would affect her relationship with her teaching colleagues, Mbuli said she had acted as a parent, not a teacher. She added that she would stay in the school and her child would finish her matric there.

“I am not going to move from this school because of this. I don’t care about what they are saying about this. I will stand for the truth and the rights of my child,” said Mbuli.

Her daughter told The Witness the incident was part of first netball team’s initiation of new team members.

“We suspected that there was something wrong as it was more liquid, but she [the top player] said it was just because it was in the sun. We drank it.

“After that one of her classmates told us that she had spat in it in their class and mixed it. When we confronted her she denied it.

“My dignity as a human being is violated and I feel bad about this entire thing that happened to me.” She said the police had video footage of the alleged incident.

Another protesting parent, who asked not to be named, said it was a very serious offence that needed to be addressed quickly.

Investigation


KwaZulu-Natal education spokesperson Sihle Mhlotshwa said the principal informed the department of the event on Friday.

He could not comment further until the investigation was completed.

Ferrum headmaster WF Swanepoel said he could not give any information while the district office was investigated it.

National Association of Schools Governing Bodies’ chairperson Reginald Chiliza said that if the claims were true, “such incidents are undermining black people’s dignity. Maybe this is an influence from home - or she was just being a naughty child”.

Provincial police spokesperson Captain Thulani Zwane confirmed a crimen injuria case was being investigated.

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Comments
  • stoute.babuseng - 2012-03-13 10:40

    here we go again

      Spyker - 2012-03-13 10:46

      How many South Africans were murdered and raped during the writing of this article..?

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-13 11:01

      @Spyker you are less likely to read if it is about murder and rape. The SA media knows that and is abusing your volatility on racial matters.

      Putin the " - 2012-03-13 11:07

      A snake is born with a vernom!!

      Mhlophe - 2012-03-13 11:16

      These girls were made to drink it? How? Is it possible that the third girl just said NO! C'mon people, it's just baby food, thousands of ppl are using it every day.

      Leon - 2012-03-13 11:16

      lots of he said she said and very little facts to go on, however i was under the impression "ontgroening" and such initiation was canned long ago precisely because it leads to these type of situations. The white girl should have known better, and her friends keeping quiet about was also wrong.

      Dawood - 2012-03-13 11:33

      here we go again..comments are based on racial profiles..when is this crap going to stop..take this student,expel her and charge this idiot..

      Spyker - 2012-03-13 11:51

      @Ian.., I can safely say nobody ever 'arroved'(sic) in SA. Btw - anal probes are exclusively reserved for Champagne toting Russian cops... @JohncarlosBiza.., It is always a good day in SA when the two of us can agree on an issue - have a great day, bro...

      Moi - 2012-03-13 12:01

      Jaja is in the running for the troll of the day award.

      Ashuvha - 2012-03-13 12:04

      spyker What has it got to do with this?

      Given - 2012-03-13 12:08

      Jaja and Ian,you guys need to be left on an island near madagascar just the two of u or maybe add Jono on the list who we might come fetch in 6 mths. We shall name that country The democratic Republic of Morons and Dweebs. Nxm julle praat masepa net

      Bluecrest - 2012-03-13 12:31

      Brilliant - my laugh for the day. Just waiting for the 100 list thing now; thats going to be hilarious!!! @Ian - well said :-)

      Jaja - 2012-03-13 12:40

      @jono, sorry, dont have time to finish the list as I must go to class now, Will continue after 6pm.

      Given - 2012-03-13 12:42

      ai nico thats unfair mos im dating one

      Besil - 2012-03-13 12:47

      whats with this whole black and white issue here? jono i believe africa could have developed in its own way if we did not come!

      charles.singo - 2012-03-13 12:55

      people, we are all africans, why do we hate each other so much, apartheid was done by/to our grannys n grandfathers. what we need to do now is to work together n correct the mistakes of the past, black or white, we all have red blood, regardless of colour, what happened to those two gals is wrong n should be condoned. africans are people of ubuntu, so where is ur ubuntu guys, my fellow blacks lets move with time and forget what happened in the past. not all snakes are vernomous, so Ian dn't u wish to be a non-vernomous snake?

      Jono - 2012-03-13 12:59

      So JAJA …is that why you hate us??? You got to be kidding me!!! How old are you just so by the way??? I have black friends, I love them to pieces, best folk on this earth! I am friends with them although blacks have killed, im friends with whites although they have killed, and so on and so on! Your judgment about us is made purely on sad cases. Do me a favor…stand up for yourself, don’t mingle with people you don’t like, if that is white folk by al means (white folk probably wouldn’t want to mix with you neither, and im sure nor some black people) don’t be friends with them and go on with life! Not all white folk have been nice to me in my life but yet I looked passed idiotic people and live my own life. You need to grow up and understand no one cares about you like no one cares about me and when I fail. Life goes on and if you want to live in hatred then by all means go ahead, but keep it to yourself! Otherwise write a book so that those that would like to read your racist rants then they will buy the book. You need to vote DA… hahaha only joking lol

      eric.vanvuuren - 2012-03-13 13:11

      How is feeding someone saliva a racist action. Hahahaha Not only can't you play rugby, but wow!!! That province needs to evict all the people of KZN into the ocean. Then let decent people move in there. What a national blemish.

      Janice - 2012-03-13 13:47

      Thanks ALL, that was the MOST amusing reading Ive done in a long time!!! Keep it up...

  • Brett - 2012-03-13 10:41

    When is Malema going to be charged for his racist rants? He calls all white people thieves and calls for white farmers to be shot. Why is he allowed to do that? A friend of mine was stabbed by 2 blacks last week. Why did this vicious racist assault not even make the news? Is stabbing less serious than spitting?

      Jean - 2012-03-13 10:54

      @ dUNCAN maybe its a influence from your home. Maybe your mother and father acted this way so you think its fine to say things like that. Wouldnt suprise me if you where one of the many commiting crime in SA. Freak.

      RealNikka - 2012-03-13 10:54

      Brett If I remember correctly Malema went to Court for singing that songs and all other allegations...Was I dreaming when I saw that on TV??

      Ernst Theart - 2012-03-13 10:55

      Discrimination against whites is overlooked by the media, because apparently we deserved it..... This country will fail! And there is only one race to be blamed for it, because of there unwillingness to work together with other people of race

      Linda - 2012-03-13 11:00

      Brett what is your augment? the issues you stated are both wrong and should reprimanded. Please understant, the issue here is not about Malema, or his cronies! I think most of the people are fascinated by this young champ!!

      PhilipV - 2012-03-13 11:03

      @Linda, fascinated? I think you mean nauseated ...

      Brett - 2012-03-13 11:15

      @RealNikka I asked when Malema was going to be charged. Has he been charged? No he hasnt. Stop dreaming.

      Zimbobwe - 2012-03-13 11:22

      Was he racially abusing them??? If not don't worry it was not racially motivated. People get stabbed all the time on mother earth unless he comes from Mars and surprised about people stabbing each other. I hope he gets well very soon and he should be careful next time. I was also stabbed!!!

      Brett - 2012-03-13 11:31

      @Zimbobwe people also get initiated all the time. I went through initiation too. Do you get it now?

      ina.f.chatwind - 2012-03-13 11:35

      Brett, my friend (59yr old lady living alone on a farm) was stabbed to death ( 25 knife wounds in her back and a cut throat) last year by a coloured man. I never thought this was a racist attack. Why does everybody think every offense that happens is racist?

      Dawood - 2012-03-13 11:40

      these type of racist actions and comments frm whites breed MALEMAS and MUGABES..be honest and non racial in your actions,comments and thinking

      Brett - 2012-03-13 11:41

      @Ina ask yourself how much would you have to hate someone to stab them 25 times.....

      jacques.theresa - 2012-03-13 12:03

      Duncan - If you hate us soooooo much why do you have a "white" name. Please do us a favour and STFU.

      Deon - 2012-03-13 16:34

      @Ina, Bret is correct, stabbing a person 25 times while that person is still is alive is actually to torture the victim before killing the person. There was definitely an overture of racism in her killing. Only hatred and anger would unleash such a torrential act of abuse before killing a person. When people such as Juju, trained to subvert young minds by the communist political teachers, manipulate and influence young minds that hatred is born and violence spawned.

      Deon - 2012-03-13 16:40

      @Jaja, I understand that you are hurt by what happened to your little brother as he is very important to you, but your parents teaches racial tolerance which good. Listen to them and stop listening to Juju who is there only to poison your minds with the wrong things as he is trained to do. If you listen to your parents advice you will have a good, prosperous and long life. Speak to someone who can truthfully help you with that hurt, someone whom you can trust.

  • Terina - 2012-03-13 10:42

    we all were initiated at some point, seriously

      Marion - 2012-03-13 10:51

      I don't recall any initiations that required anyone to have crap poured over their head or to drink someone else's spit (as alleged here). Any initiations we had were just good clean fun and never disgusting.

      RealNikka - 2012-03-13 10:57

      Maroin True , I went to PTA Boys high and we were initiated nothing disgusting...everything we did was fun, It was something we would laugh about when we were done...this girl might have disease in her saliva that might put those two girls lives in danger...

      Deon - 2012-03-13 10:58

      Me too, still remember my 1st year in "Eendrag" Stellenbosch. The first 2 weeks in Feb. wearing suits was a "bit" warm.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-13 11:05

      @Terina I was initiated by Afrikaans men, but the way they went about it made me adore and respect them greatly. It is not right to 'normalize' incidents like the one on the article.

      Neill - 2012-03-13 11:27

      @Marion: If all your initiations where all clean fun, then you where never part of any real team.

      Marion - 2012-03-13 12:06

      @308 - Whatever works for you...

  • John - 2012-03-13 10:43

    victim much?

  • Byron - 2012-03-13 10:47

    Anything to flip the "youre a racist" switch...

      Thokozane - 2012-03-13 12:27

      Whenever I read such articles, I play one of my favourite songs in the background: Mike and the Mechanics - Living Years, this song is like a prophecy. Every generation, blames the one before. In the end, its only bitterness that lasts, and we only sacrifice the future. I'm really tired of reading about such stories.

  • Morama - 2012-03-13 10:47

    Am tired of reading about this.....can news24 stop posting this because i really believe doesn't worth reporting? We have serious issues to worry about....ANC and their cadres who are destroying this country insted of worrying about this lame crap that we all know will take sometime to be eradicated!!!

      lucebotha - 2012-03-13 11:28

      News24 likes to stir racial tension betwween people, haven't you noticed it by now?!

      Ashuvha - 2012-03-13 12:14

      This is news,it has everybody talking.There's a little red box with an X at the right corner of your screen,click it.

  • mattjohnbass - 2012-03-13 10:49

    Racist rants in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...

  • JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-13 10:50

    The media tribunal should ban News24 from using the R word. They intentionally fish around for it to make money off article clicks.

      Given - 2012-03-13 11:06

      They are ridiculous ndoda,they must just stop it,its sickening. News24 needs to stop this crap. Start giving us stories that can motivate us to help others and improve their lives where we can. Tell us about poor communities that we can adopt and help by donating to to improve their lives.Give us stories that will make us s.africans work together. Stop reporting this rubbish about school kids and their mentally unstable parents who deserve a double spin kick on the throat for perpetraiting unnecessary racial tension at schools

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-13 11:43

      Nice to see you here Given :). I don't mind bad news, but it has to add some kind of value to my life - e.g I should know where it has become dangerous to walk in the night. What a random person in a gym calls another random person is not of national importance. The people involved in stories like this one can sort themselves out without the whole nation's involvement...and I do agree the black parents sound like they have issues of their own.

  • Louwhan - 2012-03-13 10:53

    If only the white girl showed up this would/could/should not have made it to any news site.

  • sjmanthey - 2012-03-13 10:56

    why hasn't someone poured temic into the teachers tea?

  • hcrouse - 2012-03-13 10:57

    Silly girl. Even a 15 year-old should know you handle black people with kid gloves these days. The black kid should obviously have been made captain.

      PhilipV - 2012-03-13 11:01

      Nailed it.

      Klipkop - 2012-03-13 11:09

      and head-girl in a few years and hey lets get her a bursary to study at the most expensive uni in SA. I mean if you are black you surely deserve everything in life for free hey? Purity with spit in it is really the most horrible thing ever, she will take many years to get over it, shame. Lets get her a shrink right now before she kills herself.

      Brett - 2012-03-13 11:17

      @Klipkop she probabaly deserves a tender as well. I hear Matrics are getting them these days...

      Thokozane - 2012-03-13 12:37

      @hcrouse, reading your comment, makes me realize that we are very far from reaching an end to racial spats if people still walk around with such ideosyncrasies. Black people do not need kid gloves, they only need to be respected as human beings. The most surprising thing is that people who give thumps up to such comments are the same people who are quick to complain about Malema. We are killing our kids by perpetuating such prejudices, regardless of what race you belong to. The next generation deserves better.

      John - 2012-03-13 13:08

      Thokozane Maloka, and yet you saying nothing about Ashuvha comments promoting rape and torture?

      Rudi - 2012-03-13 13:08

      @Thokozane, Dude I appreciate your sentiment and agree. But some, black people, are really taking it way too seriously. I mean criminal charges?? This white girl was also initiated. And the girls before her. It's called tradition and its sacred in schools and fraternities. No. a predejuce would be to not initiate her at all. Because that way she'll never really be a part of the team.

  • Yolandè Rwaai - 2012-03-13 10:57

    News 24 wants us to have a go at each other! They love nothing more than seeing us insulting each other

      Teboho Mphaloane - 2012-03-13 11:06

      WWE (web wrestling entertainment), lol

      Yolandè Rwaai - 2012-03-13 11:13

      At its best Tebo

      Pixie86 - 2012-03-13 11:35

      i cant agree with you more! If there was ever a site that incited racial segregation its news24) everything is sensationalised! I'm beginning to think the media is not helping the healing of this country!

      Yolandè Rwaai - 2012-03-13 11:48

      Ditto! And we fall for it each time!

  • Given - 2012-03-13 10:59

    OOh no this is ridiculous,not every act of sillyness is racially motivated. Iv been initiated a number of times as a child and we took it as that "initiation" and nothing else. Post matric it got worse bcos i studied in the Free State where one wouldv taken any tiff between black and white person racially motivated,but hey it wasnt like that. Parents just need to instil morals and teach them racial tollerance more than perpetrating it like the mentioned are doing now.I bet the kids were influenced by their parents to take this as a racial thing. Lets all be good examples of better human beings so that our kids inherit good and wise ways of dealing with situations

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-13 11:46

      I agree, once again. I think the parents have had no exposure to initiation and still make racial connotations to every unpleasant incident involving whites. I feel bad for the kids...are they gonna change schools or what?

      Rudi - 2012-03-13 13:10

      Well said, and in the freestate fraternities, the first years had it bad. :D

  • Tilly - 2012-03-13 11:02

    Going to the shop with my husband one day we pulled into a parking bay which the car behind with 5 blacks wanted (being behind us!!!). They parked two bays further away. They jumped out the car shouting with fists up in the air "you son of a white whore", "you whites are scum" etc. I told my husband not to stoop down to their level and to ignore them. We did not run to the press and courts and cried "racist". I am so sick of racist excuses. Yes it is revolting what some pupils do but in our day we had initiation of a worst kind and that was white on white. If a game is played and a white kicks a black its racist but if the roles are reversed no-one says anything! For Pete's sake get over this racist inferiority.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 13:58

      We are moving ahead as a country.....Not too far in our history we were not even allowed in the car park.

  • Omrisho - 2012-03-13 11:04

    if you have ever shared a cold drink or had a taste of someone's ice-cream etc. then you have shared their saliva... sheez this tit for tat racist bs is getting really pathetic... when are we going to see some decent leadership in our country that will come out and publicly denounce such behaviour as being "un-south african" what can be so hard about that? or are we as south africans so pathetically immature that we want to stay full of hatred... for crying out load people, teach the children for a better tomorrow

      Pumlani Poni - 2012-03-13 11:12

      Nobody shares purity dnt be stupid plz nd the amounts of saliva is nt the same so plz get ur head out ur backside nd think

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 11:49

      Teach the children "How to respect each other"

      Omrisho - 2012-03-13 12:16

      pumlani... you seem to miss the entire point, and then call me stupid, couldn't wait to jump on the trivial point and then miss the main issue, for someone that went to morningside HS, would have thought you knew better... get your head out bro (you and my kids were probably mates) bluzulu (nice nick) absolutely bro... today's kids are tomorrows future, the adults/older generation need to invest in that..

  • violet.bossut - 2012-03-13 11:07

    Blame the parents of this white kid, There must be so much hate for other people in that home. Then on Sundays they sit right in front of the church.

      Skuiter - 2012-03-13 11:18

      yes, because if they sit INSIDE, their cars will be stolen.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 11:48

      Tis the truth mate,

  • ronzaled - 2012-03-13 11:12

    Here we go again, spewing racial comments all over the place. This might just have been an initiation that went too far. I'm starting to think News24 are really enjoying seeing their readers spewing racial insults at each other. People really need to grow up and own up

      JJ - 2012-03-13 12:50

      starting??

  • Ciano - 2012-03-13 11:13

    Initiation is tradition that go back for Centuries. Grow up or quit your sport. Even on Professional level new players are initiated. Irespective black/ white? Indian etc etc. If you want to play with the big dogs, don't piss like a puppy!!!!!!

  • Skuiter - 2012-03-13 11:17

    oh boo hoo...bloody sissies

  • emokgojoe - 2012-03-13 11:19

    if they did it to my child ...heaven help us.

  • Lebogang - 2012-03-13 11:22

    "A Ferrum High pupil told The Witness the incident had racially polarised the school" The tragedy is that our reaction to this "probably innocent" incident will leave a couple of these kids with entrenched racist views. The vicious circle starts again. SA eating itself alive.

      Vaal-Donkie - 2012-03-13 11:54

      The great irony is that it wouldn't have riacially polarised the school if the parents had not chosen to turn it into a racial incident.

      Wally - 2012-03-13 12:42

      Thank you, Lebogang. I believe we speak the same language. If I am wrong, pardon me then. My comments are posted above. I pity all those who posted incessant racist remarks and vile comments from both white and black commentators. Disgusting to say the least. Accept that you cannot change the history of 500 years that shaped this country, plz. To say I did not come with a boat to Africa is a truth - I was born here, so too my father and his father and probably his father. I don't know a place called home in Europe or anywhere else in the world. Hatred and contempt will bring us nowhere. I am so pleased to see this morning a young black man writing to Morning Live and saying we should stop focussing on the past and see what is happening - the worst colonialism Africa has seen - CHINA! But, you decide, ppl. Be blind to the truth of the past, the present and what is to become the future. Am I inciting hate? No! Be alert and build education, literacy, integrity. Become self-sufficient by working hard instead of waiting on Govt to dish out. Become employers instead of waiting to become an employee. Seek for opportunities. Do not let our country end up begging from those waiting to seize what we have as a country.

  • David - 2012-03-13 11:23

    harden the f*@k up...traumatised and would receive counselling! Way worse things happened during initiations when I was at school...it's part growing up and forming bonds! Jirre!

  • Ali - 2012-03-13 11:27

    Oh gee-whizz every time a quarrel or initiation happens and the parties are from different races it's racist? This word is too widely used and 90% of the people who use it have no clue to the meaning. And btw...purity? Perfectly innocent and safe.

  • Barefoot - 2012-03-13 11:28

    They say eat you eat then you cry foul? foolish girls and reactionary parents saliva didn't kill you and won't kill you- unless if she had a an infectious disease transmitted through saliva

      Mvikeli - 2012-03-13 12:52

      They cried foul after being told that it was laced with saliva. they were trusting enough to still eat the stuff after their "teammate" told them there was nothing wrong with it.

  • Pixie86 - 2012-03-13 11:29

    this is ridiculous! These are just kids picking on each other as kids do! Had the kids been one race would it still have received such hooha! Come on! Rather punish the girl for the initiation, but don't turn it into a race issue! The adults in this country are the ones still gripping tightly to old racist things and are now passing our issues to kids! Come on!!

  • Philip - 2012-03-13 11:34

    I was initiated into my rugby team by getting twenty two shots with a cricket bat. 3 of the 5 people who hit me were black. do you hear me complaining about racism, it is in the past. LEAVE IT THERE

      Victor - 2012-03-13 13:27

      Yes, again: What a f..n idiot!!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-13 14:46

      Ashuvha, a new troll is born.

  • Phiwe - 2012-03-13 11:37

    Blown out of all proportion! stuff like this happen all the time during sports socials and worse for initiation at my Uni. The act itself may not have been racist but the subsequent disapproval of the act was polarised on race lines. Of course we can appreciate that a) this girl is not really lady like and is quite the ladette, b) what she did was inappropriate and much of what happens when teams have socials would shock every parent alive (which is why we keep it from them) but then someone will speak and put the leaders in trouble. And if this happens you just have to do the right thing and apologise, not stand your ground on some misguided impression that you are on the right. She got found out, she cant defend her actions and no one else should either. But people can defend the charge against her of racism, there may not have been any racist intent in the act. Again you'd have to look at the history of initiations in that team, if then suddenly when the only initiates are black she decides that initiations need to be disgusting then I might suspect something.

      hcrouse - 2012-03-13 12:13

      'nuff said. Yours should be the last comment.

  • filipa.domingues - 2012-03-13 11:37

    seriously....saliva??? My God it could have killed her!!!! news 24 are ou guys running out of stories to write? sounds like a daily voice article to me...talk about digging deep!!

  • Ian - 2012-03-13 11:41

    So if the initiation is done on same coloured pupils it is fine but as soon as a black person is involved, it is called racism. Get over yousrelves. Initiation tactics have been around for ages even during the Apartheid regime. You are not special!!!

      Pixie86 - 2012-03-13 11:44

      coloured people are black

      Ian - 2012-03-13 11:51

      Maybe if you read my sentence: if it is done to a same colored pupil. I did not say coloured pupil but same colored pupil. besides, I know a few coloured people that woudl disagree with youi. Also, if they were black then why do they not qualify for BBBEEEE

      Ian - 2012-03-13 11:52

      I know some coloured folk who woudl disagree with you. If they were 'black' then why does BBBEEE not apply to them. Besides read my comment before you make such stupid comments

      Phiwe - 2012-03-13 11:52

      Blacks are the only race in SA to suffer the most because of racism. In this marcabre sense, yes blacks are special. It's not a good special either.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 12:14

      Blacks are African, Coloured, Indian and Chinese in this country mate.

      Given - 2012-03-13 12:25

      Hau Ian did u just say coloures arent blacks?did u just say that coloureds dont qualify for BBBee lol Dude where are u from,and what do u read? Y mag doesnt qualify.lol im finished. Dude even maChina qualify for bee. Lmao#death by coloureds not being black iyhoooo

  • Mesulie Vince' Ntombela - 2012-03-13 11:45

    I really think we shouldn't be allowed to comment on these articles...All we do is attack each other which further seperates apart! Lord have mercy...

      Ashuvha - 2012-03-13 12:31

      We can't blame the article or it's publisher we don't like each other in reality.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-13 12:39

      The irony is that the people fighting each other have nothing to do with the incidents. It's like people fighting each other over a sports game or movie ending.

      Wally - 2012-03-13 12:47

      I agree. God bless you and your family, Mesulie.

      Rudi - 2012-03-13 13:18

      Being trolled is all it is. Some fat white kid, giving himself a name like Nkululeko Whatever and taking the piss out of everyone. Or news24 "agents". OMG Ive uncovered a conspiracy! :D

  • bluzulu - 2012-03-13 11:47

    I see my comments have been removed....THE TRUTH HURTS

      Vaal-Donkie - 2012-03-13 11:55

      Try a less confrontational tone.

      hcrouse - 2012-03-13 12:08

      Even here there's a stupidity filter. You just didn't make the grade.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 12:12

      Whatever hcrouse, try another tact mate.

      hcrouse - 2012-03-13 15:00

      Don't "mate" me, you little poseur. Your comments were deleted because they were crass, stupid, off the topic, and written in bold. Keep your vitriol for your new homeland, you wannabe kiwi.

      Deon - 2012-03-13 17:06

      @hcrouse, thanks for doing us the favor. Bluzulu, please don't come back to this country. Your not welcome here. Rather stay a kiwi (fruit) and leave Africa to the tough Africans, born of this soil for this soil.

  • Selma - 2012-03-13 11:49

    Thats why I do not eat in public places - to steer clear of urine, semen and saliva.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-03-13 14:35

      Now there's a thought. They had some CCTV footage of waitrons deliberately spitting in food a couple of years ago.

  • Warren Cowley - 2012-03-13 11:53

    You've got to be kidding me. News24 do you like purposely go out looking for \racial\ stories. Irrelevant of race, i would have punched the lights out of anyone who tried to make me eat their saliva and not ran to the newspaper. Really now...

  • SARealist - 2012-03-13 11:56

    Just another example of a kangaroo court Where's the proof of the pudding?????????

  • Mzwandile - 2012-03-13 11:57

    @Jaja - Cool down. I know this is disgusting and remind some of us of the horrible past of human degradation and subjected to a subhuman level. That can never again go by unnoticed and unpunished. I can assure you that people who still have these kinds of mentality are few and by the day are becoming fewer. There is no reason to hate White people, ubsolutely no reasons. Your hate will give victory to those that still have racism in their mist to prove that Blacks hate Whites.

      Ashuvha - 2012-03-13 12:49

      I can assure you that people who still have these kinds of mentality are few and by the day are becoming fewer. are not few,read comments n this site everyday and you will see they are not few. No they

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-13 14:49

      Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die.

  • Theresa - 2012-03-13 11:57

    Are we sure this was a racist incident or just someone playing the tired old card again? Horrible prank but maybe the white chick was sick or bunking. There is no doubt that racism exists(black people call it xenophobia)in SA across all the so called rainbow nation but unless these silly little girls deliberately told the white chick not to be there.....

  • Fran - 2012-03-13 11:58

    People should stop denying that racism is still alive and ugly in our country and deal with it. Why would any of the girls say it had saliva in it if it wasn't so? Can she take a lie detector test to prove she was lying? And what initiation was performed on them when they joined the Netball Team? We are living in a sick and twisted part of the world called South Africa and until we acknowledge that there is a problem there will never be solutions, we are just working backwards. Even here on the comments forum whites are siding with each other, so are blacks? You see what I mean? Remember the Park Town Boys initiation case, parents of the boys who put others through initiation were also up in arms in denial of the truth while actually staring the evidence in the face. I am now confused and I fail to understand just how does one defines hypocrisy? If parents continue to behave this way I am afraid we are raising a generation of little monsters who will one day be adults and live in this country, I wonder what is mother future holding for them in years to come.

  • Ashuvha - 2012-03-13 12:03

    Nothing will happen to her,we all know it.

      Garth - 2012-03-13 12:25

      Why? Is her father a prominent supporter of the useless anc?

      Ashuvha - 2012-03-13 12:33

      The ANC is ruling you and your taxes you are just giving yourself a heartache thinking about them.

      Given - 2012-03-13 12:36

      @Garth u sound like u and her mother might be an item, bcos ur both irrational,petty etc.Who knows maybe u are the father!

      Garth - 2012-03-13 13:44

      Given that you are uneducated and uncouth, I know that I am definitely not YOUR father!

      Given - 2012-03-13 14:17

      Lol i would be an unhappy child,with a father like you? Im sure suicide would have been my daily mission like Stans grandfather on South Park. Uneducated mmmmmh yes thats true,but depends on what curriculum or institution you are talking about.if u meant that i didnt go to the International School For Morons,Dweebs and Imbeciles that u went to and graduated cum laude,then u are most certainly right lovie

  • Cameron - 2012-03-13 12:07

    wtf????? thats racism? oh please man, its just an initiation... bloody idiots, thats nothing compared to other initiations people have had to endure. Besides they could have said NO... retards, does everyting in this country have to have racism attached to it somehow.... GET OVER IT man, saying thats racialistic is just plain old retarded!

  • Andrew Sheppard - 2012-03-13 12:08

    Grow some balls! It's only saliva!! They won't get aids unless she downed a couple litres of the 'tasty' stuff! Good grief!!

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 12:11

      I can mail you some of my Saliva....Go for it...enjoy

      Andrew Sheppard - 2012-03-13 12:23

      @bluballszulu..... Not thanks I don't want aids.... Besides it will probably be drunk at the post office before it gets to me hahahahahaha

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 12:33

      Are you phobic towards HIV sufferers?

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 12:37

      I see you cannot even get my nik right. You had no issue with saliva in your statement however it seems to have changed....Is it becauce I ain't White...heheeheheehee hypocrate

      Andrew Sheppard - 2012-03-13 12:49

      @blueballszulu.... I think you have an issue with being able to read the worldwide language called English..... Go back to Grade0..... Oops sorry forgot you won't understand this...... Hahahahahahaha!!

      RealNikka - 2012-03-13 12:49

      Andrew your really are stupid and Ignorant... you contradict yourself in just 2 comments, you one of the people I wouldn't even waste my time arguing with..Geez

      Garth - 2012-03-13 13:48

      Andrew your first post is puerile, crass and ignorant to boot. Then you go even further and really demean yourself . . .

      bluzulu - 2012-03-13 13:49

      The sherperd has returned to his fascist Volk....

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-13 14:51

      Andrew Sheppard went full retard...

  • Wally - 2012-03-13 12:11

    Why racism? They involve the black teammates in what should be regarded "an honor" to be inducted into the team. Children and students have done this and worse for years and years. My son is white and attending a school where the majority is black. If he complains I teach him to deal with it. to him it is not a question of race or color. Do we want our children to be racists? Do we want them to hate? Do we want them to "struggle"? Instead of picketing and causing more of a circus, tell your precious daughter to grow up, you do the same, Mam, and get back into your classroom. Stop this psychological trauma crap for once and for all. Small wonder more and more youths are committing suicide. They do not learn to deal with issues the right way; to deal with confrontation positively; to accept that life throws a curve ball at you more than often; to look up and look forward for their own sake. There are incidents of abuse and serious trauma - start a campaign iro that. Stop handing out condoms and start teaching the right and wrongs of our moral dilemma. Then you are being constructive, Madam Teacher. I work with black ppl and I have no problem. Why? We share in laughter, grief, pranks and life in allits forms. I see the ugly of a society growing more and more sick by the day - not physical, but morally, emotionally, ethically. Attack me if you want...but think about it, plz.

      Wally - 2012-03-13 12:26

      I just want to add, I do not condone having anyone drink saliva or have faeces or urine poured over them. However, plz do NOT forget that when initiated at times you are made to believe something to be baby crap that you have to eat when it isn't the real thing. Perhaps the so-called grown-ups should just stay out of it. I pity your child, emokgojoe...he/she will not be allowed to blend in, to look back years later and laugh about it; and if no double standards, you will have to prevent him/her vigorously from taking part therein when new initiates are introduced. Nothing nasty, pure good fun making you feel part of the team. That has now been destroyed. If the Grade 11 Girl did anything untoward she should be disciplined. But plz, this is ripped totally out of context.

  • Zack - 2012-03-13 12:13

    Trauma counselling For Drinking Spit That is A New One Maybe I Should Have Gone To The Police When The High School Cricket Team initiation Was To hit You The New Players On The But With The Cricket Bat. Come On People This Is Childish There is no need for the police to get involved in Sh@t like this

  • arthurbrigg - 2012-03-13 12:13

    How many waiters have spat in food? Well, we'll never know...

      Garth - 2012-03-13 12:30

      Nice one earth-piggie! There's always one! One in every family who just can't resist tipping the bus over the cliff. Always one that has to go beyond the bounds of disgusting. Thanks again. No seriously, thanks. Were you a waiter perhaps? Thanks again.

  • Alphonso - 2012-03-13 12:21

    The girls should have said no. clearly proven again that certain people have no brains.At the end of the day what ever the motive. the two girls made a decision, and that is to drink it. No gun was put to their head. Everybody decides and you girls decided.TOOOOOO DRINKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • stretch.lawrence - 2012-03-13 12:21

    yeah yeah - party A pull stupid stunts like this and party B go around raping and killing. all's fair in love and war apparently

  • Wendy - 2012-03-13 12:31

    With people like JAJA living in this country - it will never come right!!!

      Ashuvha - 2012-03-13 12:34

      you people living in this country is a headache.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-13 14:52

      Good, I'm glad our presence affects you in that way..

  • eheesen - 2012-03-13 12:40

    The comments on this story sounds like sibling rivalry!

  • Koos - 2012-03-13 12:49

    @Given: I could tell you what happened at my school but you won't belive me and it didn't even make the local news paper. Nico's advice is sound.

  • Vanessa - 2012-03-13 12:50

    @Jaja: Firstly do not point fingers to all whites in the first place! Don't you find it amasing how u always compare a few people with all people. Take it as when racist things happen, do we seem 2 to say I'm done with blacks! or blacks MUST GO????? In cases like these IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING RACIST OR NOT IT'S ABOUT BEING RIGHT OR WRONG!!!!!!

      Wendy - 2012-03-13 12:59

      AGREED...

  • Verona - 2012-03-13 12:51

    Purity baby food has a vacuum seal button on the lid of the jar. Surely you realise that if the button is not flat, you know that it has been tampered with?