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Rapists don’t drop from the sky - MEC

2012-04-18 23:01

Cape Town - Gauteng Community Safety MEC Faith Mazibuko on Wednesday called on parents - especially those with sons - to teach their children to respect themselves as well as others, after the gang rape of a 17-year old Soweto girl, which was recorded on a cellphone.

The video, more than 10 minutes long, of the teenager being raped by at least seven men, went "viral" and became one of the main topics trending on the social networking site Twitter.

The rape was apparently filmed last week.

"Rapists don’t drop from the sky. Somebody rears them and they stay in our communties," Mazibuko said.

Mazibuko was speaking during a visit to the girl's mother.

The girl, who was reported missing in late March, was found in a man's house in Bramfischerville just before noon on Wednesday.

It appeared she had been kept there against her will. The man allegedly told the police she was his girlfriend and that she had said to him that  she was 19 years old.

The man was arrested for abducting the girl, and could also be charged with rape. This brings to eight the number of people arrested for attacking the girl.

Depraved

The African National Congress Women's League, which had helped search for the girl, said it was outraged, angered and disgusted at the crime.

The rapists were "depraved", and some of them were "old enough to be called men" but did not deserve the dignity associated with the ideal of manhood, spokesperson Troy Martens said.

Martens said parents should take responsibility for their children and instil in them - boys in particular - morality and respect for women.

She applauded the woman who found the video on her child's cellphone and went to the police.

"We would like to commend the swift action taken by police in arresting the culprits and [their] dedication to finding the missing girl."

The National Education Health and Allied Workers' Union condemned the crime as "barbaric" and said South Africans should be concerned about the prevailing high levels of women abuse.

"The patriarchal attitudes that still exist need all role-players in our societies to work together to educate and agitate for a change in attitudes from males of all ages," spokesperson Sizwe Pamla said in a statement.

Proudly South African said it was launching a school roadshow to raise awareness about sexual abuse. It would begin in Soweto.

Chief executive Leslie Sedibe condemned those who watched and distributed the video of the rape.

"What have we become when children rape children and we as fellow South Africans stand by and watch something so evil, cruel, callous and inhumane? Even watching such a video after the fact is atrocious and abominable."

Minister for women and children Lulu Xingwana condemned the rape and the spread of the video, which local media said was circulating mainly among teenagers in Johannesburg's Soweto township.

"In addition to the painful ordeal of rape the young woman was forced to endure, she is now subjected to a second assault on her dignity," Xingwana said in a statement.

National Youth Development Agency chairperson Andile Lungisa said the government and non-governmental organisations needed to work together to root out violence against women and children.

"It is beyond human comprehension what would [motivate] any human being to engage in such an inhumane act of violence, damaging the dignity of another human being in this manner."

If those arrested were found guilty of raping the teenager, the law should "have no mercy" on them, he said.

The suspects are expected to appear in the Roodepoort Magistrate's Court on Thursday.

Comments
  • Ian - 2012-04-18 23:16

    yes madam MEC they dont fall from the sky, however if your government would wake the f up they would drop from a scaffold with a rope around there necks, its the only way to stop these barbarians as they know when they get caught all they get is a roof over there heads and 3 meals a day at tax payers expense along with dstv and whatever the scum want

      Oscar - 2012-04-19 05:28

      ...and neither do competent MECs crawl from under the nearest bush.

      carpejugulim - 2012-04-19 05:53

      no they don't fall out of the sky but the powers that be have ensured that discipline is a farce. Parents and schools are virtually hamstrug when it comes to disciplining children ... thou shalt not cane or spank. My generation was still caned and it didn't turn us into criminals. Juveniles were caned for misdemeanours and the caning stopped their criminal careers in their tracks, no criminal record but a lesson learned and never repeated. There is a vast difference between a corrective smack on the behind and physical assault and abuse.

      Ian - 2012-04-19 06:46

      @carpejugulim, I hear you, once in std 4 i bunked school, believe you me after the principal and my parents finnished with me, i never did it again and i mean exactly that, never, today if a teacher looks at one of these disgusting brats, they are charged with assault and cANCer drops the pass rate in there joke of 'basic education' schools to what is it now, 25% or whatever, then they 'dumund', that private schools drop there pass rate too and bring the education level down to theres, thankfully they were told to stick it where the sun dont shine, in most private schools where there is no standard grade the pass rate sits at 60%, always has been, always will be no matter what any uneducated politicion wannabee has got to say

      Michael - 2012-04-19 07:59

      Ian; I thought you supported the independence of the judiciary with no government interference! The constitutional court abolished death penalty NOT the government. Please go and read the case of S v Makwanyane and Another (CCT3/94)- 1995. Maybe you must advocate for changing of the constitution - the issue that always arouse hullabaloo OR force the government to interfere with decisions of the judiciary (another pain). It does not help for the likes of you to make noise that won't take you anywhere unless you engage in actions similar to what I propose. The tragedy is most of N24 forum members DO NOT like factual comments, hence they will thumbsdown this 1.

  • Trevor - 2012-04-18 23:38

    Bring back the old days. They used to hang rapists then.

  • Frank - 2012-04-18 23:46

    There is this guy i know who's daughter was raped a boy next door. After discovering that his daughter was raped by this boy, he immediately searched for that boy and shot him dead. Now he's doing 22 years in jail for that. At first, i did not understand why he took the law into his own hands but after reading this rape story i understand why he did it. If i was in his shoes i would have sone the same.

      spartanx93 - 2012-04-19 07:39

      Revenge is dish best served cold.

      Martin - 2012-04-19 08:47

      i will do the same, 22 yrs with a smile one my face and a massive naught

      Kala - 2012-04-19 11:29

      Me too

  • Omphile - 2012-04-19 00:02

    Our South African laws sometimes really kill us.It seems like justice is abandoned at all,since the money plays an important role,leading to biased dicissions made by those who are legally payed to uphold justice and at the main time illigally paid to be biased.This clearly make it possible for someone with lot of money to commit a crime and be rescued by money.

  • Dewald - 2012-04-19 02:01

    What is happening to this world we are living in??? A 15 year old boy is "suspected" of killing his father, mother, and sister... Young boys (14 - 20yrs old) KIDNAP and RAPE an under-age girl, and they even videotape this! Just when you think you have heard or read the worst, something even more terrible happens! Maybe the Mayans where right about 2012, and the end of the world is near....

  • Florence - 2012-04-19 02:38

    Chief executive Leslie Sedibe condemned those who watched and distributed the video of the rape.\r\n\r\n\What have we become when children rape children and we as fellow South Africans stand by and watch something so evil, cruel, callous and inhumane? Even watching such a video after the fact is atrocious and abominable.\\r\nPlease guys let's stop circulating that Video. Imagine if it was ur daughter!...

      John - 2012-04-19 12:00

      Florence, I'm an old guy please explain to me what all this r\n\r\\n\r represents. I'm ready to accept the ridicule, please explain.

      John - 2012-04-19 12:01

      Can anybody explain?

      John - 2012-04-19 16:28

      Well Florence, after waiting the whole day for your explanation for the use of "r\n\r\n\r\\r\n" I've come to the conclusion that you don't know yourself, therefore anything you post here is BS

  • Florence - 2012-04-19 02:54

    True that this rapists are born by us. Its sad to realize that those kids have a home. I can't imagine what their parents might b going thru. I'm a parent of a 6 year old boy How do we ensure that our kids stayz away from this kind of social ills!? I'm worried...

      Dee - 2012-04-19 05:35

      Outside of the home learning environment (where fathers (un)loving actions probably the most profound teacher of sons) I think a practical measure for kids to learn EMPATHY for fellow human beings is through school plays - drama / acting - and learning to 'walk in the shoes' of another person.

      LindiBleu - 2012-04-19 08:13

      @ Florence, I have 2 sons, and much as I believed in my own strength, I admitted that good men are necessary in a boy's life. So make sure he does sports, and does not have time to be surfing th net 24/7. limit his access to media. try to build a foundation that ensure he can talk to you or ask you anything. and try to be as honest as you can be. take an interest in his life, his friends. have a male friend who can step in with man to man talks when necessary. I do not guarantee that it will work, but it is a step in the right direction. it's not easy but we owe it to ourselves to build men, not eternal boys.

      vinny.damoyi - 2012-04-19 09:04

      @LindiBleu... I couldnt agree more with you, its critical that boys get involved in some kind of sporting activity. I have seen the positive results for hundreds of young men particularly from martial arts.Anything that forces them to descipline themselves in order to achieve goals,that teaches them to work hard not just for themselve but for the team,that teaches respect for themselves and everyone else around them.Playstation and internet should be kept to a minimum and used as learning tool rather than entertainment.

      Nirosha - 2012-04-19 15:41

      We need to set a good example, and teach them what is appropriate and what isn't. With a good foundation set at home, we will know that we are putting them on the right path. I think prayer & religion also plays a big role.

  • Dee - 2012-04-19 05:18

    I pray for a new ethos in SA ...... seems to be too much sense of entitlement by all. And change of attitude must start from top down. Leaders and senior civil servants are not entitled to take, take, take public funds nor coerce the populace when they see fit to disband successful crime fighting structures or coerce populace into accepting tolls and media muzzling. We can talk about why the high rate of rape in SA, and the abhorent absence of empathy of these latest deviants - but if I look at the daily message from govt - it is one of TAKE TAKE TAKE LIE DENY DUCK DIVE COERCE, TO HECK WITH LEGALITY & MORALITY, AND USE YOUR BLUE LIGHT BRIGADES (pseudo-penis's?!) TO KILL or MAIM AT WILL - and zero empathy for the 'weaker' is how you get ahead. So no, rapists don't fall out of the sky - but an ethos of empathy, morality and integrity demonstrated from leaders would sure help revive some decency.

      John - 2012-04-19 06:39

      Well the example was set in 2005 and when the future president got away with it, where do morals, decency and integrity stand a chance?

  • DustFree - 2012-04-19 05:54

    The lack of proper education (including discipline at schools) and lack of proper parenting are the root causes here. The youth is getting restless/unruly due to a lack of direction, lack of secure long term future (such as jobs) and a lack of respect. To them it has become a case of short sighted and immediate gratification. We want and take what we want now...no matter the long term consequences. Unfortunately Government has a hand in this, but they are not the only ones at fault here...look at the parents. They should go and apologise to this girl's parents and assist financially.

  • Tim - 2012-04-19 06:03

    Who is raising these men? The mothers and grandmothers - in other words other WOMEN. What are they doing that their menfolk have so little regard for other women???

      LindiBleu - 2012-04-19 08:19

      why are women the only ones raising the future generation? where are the men, the fathers? these women did not have immaculate conceptions - when are men taking responsibility for their pleasure? who must feed these children? women. who must make sure they go to school? women. who pays for their clothes and ensures they have a roof above their heads? women. am I the only one who sees something wrong with that picture? I used to believe that men arent necessary - women can do it by themselves. I retracted that statement, and believe that the custodians of education, of manhood are fathers - who have no idea how to be fathers themselves if life is any indication. your audacity in attempting to place the blame at women's feet, puts you in the category of the eternal boys because if you are a father, then you should know how important both parents are to a child.

      Riëtte - 2012-04-19 09:40

      You probably also believe if a woman is raped she did something to provoke it? Fathers needs to SHOW their sons how to treat a woman. A mother can blah blah for years but if BOTH PARENTS do not lead by example it's wasted.

      Nirosha - 2012-04-19 13:12

      That is the problem right there, the women do everything and the men desert their children, and go on making children everywhere but taking little responsibility for them. The woman have to work long hours, trying to put food on the table and have little time for anything else. Having said that there is no excuse for rape, and certainly cannot be blamed on woman. Maybe you should ask yourself where is the man/father, did he do enough to prevent things like this from occuring.

  • Dennis - 2012-04-19 06:18

    And this is what the liberation forces fought for !! YES ACCORDING TO THE ANC !!!

      Ian - 2012-04-19 06:49

      'forces' real forces do not bomb wimpy bars and throw limpet mies into bins, they were to crap scared to face the sadf head on

      spartanx93 - 2012-04-19 08:07

      Strange how these ANC cowards call acts of terrorism a liberation movement.

      Lerato - 2012-04-19 08:47

      @Deeteem Come on, what’s with the tasteless comments, as far as I know Mandela’s ANC fought for freedom, so that people like you can be free to expose their verbal diarrhoea on this forum. To say that ANC fought so that there could be rape and all related evils is an insult not only to Mandela but also to about 60% of voters who voted for the ANC. Why can’t you simply argue or contribute on the above matter, that’s why teenagers with parents like you tend to slaughter their families and rape because the way you think sucks !!!!!

  • Wesley - 2012-04-19 06:20

    The minister said they must be hit with the full arm of the law, but in South Africa, just remember to wear white gloves. The protect criminals like these

  • Ask - 2012-04-19 06:38

    They should be necklaced... street justice for this one...

  • Manu - 2012-04-19 06:44

    The video went viral? Pathetic and disgusting. I can't imagine why any sane person would want to watch such a vicious video? This confirms to me that the problem is not restricted to these boys alone. The problem is rooted in the subconcious values of the society.

      LindiBleu - 2012-04-19 08:22

      does it differ much from pornography? because if porn, specifically gang bangs have an audience, then this will definitely also have an audience - with the plus that it is authentic.

      Manu - 2012-04-19 08:54

      Of course it differs. What you describe are simulated acts done by consenting adults and the objective is eroticism and not violence. The video of this poor girl shows acts of violence and torture being committed against her. It's not a simulation ... she is not consenting ... this is an act of violence. Your question is the same as asking what the difference is between a horror movie (say the Saw series) and snuff movies. I find your statement, "- with the plus that it is authentic" quite offensive.

      galef - 2012-04-19 13:21

      you know......no matter what.....the world is filled with sick ppl that enjoy this sort of thing... even snuff videos...and those are far worse than gang rape....ive seen a few.....*spits*..........the internet and the freedom kids have of cel phones and internet....is the venom here.....they get to do what they like when they like and send it out viral.....i bet there are many more out there....they just have not been caught yet...

      galef - 2012-04-19 13:24

      oh...and i think humans are curious by nature...and no matter how sick it is.....curious humans are going to watch it even if they know they will throw up.....its just how nature is.....

      John - 2012-04-19 15:28

      Yep Manu you're right the President in 2005 set the norm, as long as you have a shower after. What a great example for the youth.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-04-19 06:52

    no and neither does jobs, education and health care, but you have allowed everyone MEC to believe that it does.... This whole problem needs to be addressed... Is it a cultural thing that men force themselves on women or what????

  • umkhwetha - 2012-04-19 07:03

    Does the MEC think parents don't teach their children . Bahaviour seldom has anything to do with what your parents taught you . Television is full of sex today , everyday you are bombarded with sex and violence on our soapies, SEX SELLS .The government should start by regulating them first and leave the parents alone .

  • skootzie - 2012-04-19 07:04

    "If those arrested were found guilty of raping the teenager," What do you mean IF!? There is no IF. There is incontrovertible evidence to lock these disgusting ingrates behind bars for the remainder of their unnatural and pathetic lives; then they can experience the horror this poor girl has had to go through at their hands. *spit*

  • Leon - 2012-04-19 07:35

    There are so many rapists out there and yes i agree that it comes from the upbringing !They should casterate these perpintrators! As a parent of a young girl Who hás gone through a rapé, its the hardest think to see the innocence taken away! And even harder to swallow the judicial system that does nothing !!

  • Aditya Maney - 2012-04-19 07:38

    The big question is what will happen to these rapists. It's amazing how the comments ffg this article in the international arena depict this country to be utterly shambolic. We are a great country dying rather rapidly

      John - 2012-04-19 15:42

      They might get convicted, MIGHT, then there will be appeal after appeal after appeal. Has anyone from this MEC's department been to see this victim? I bet not they are too busy wondering how they can get into the coffers, who cares about a destroyed life? Not Madam MEC!

  • Rob - 2012-04-19 07:41

    Dignity indeed! Like being screwed by Sanrail, tossed over by house robbers, ignored by supermarket tellers....go on and on. Primitive societies only know the tribalism, power and false dignity of big-men and criminals.

  • Dennis - 2012-04-19 07:47

    BUT MEC's do ?? Or crawl out from under a rock ?

  • Elkita - 2012-04-19 08:30

    Rapists don.t fall from the sky.Ask the anc

      John - 2012-04-19 15:46

      Ask the big boss! he's an expert!

  • Cassius - 2012-04-19 09:21

    My feeling is that Our justice system is lenient to crime and perpetrators has better rights than the worse than the poor communities.

  • Cassius - 2012-04-19 09:27

    I don't want to imagine the feeling of the family of the victim who will see these evil monsters walking the streets soon, just because they've got right to bail.

  • Mart - 2012-04-19 09:43

    This will continue to happen as this country keeps producing wave after wave of children who are mentally deficiant (I swear the average IQ has mutated to dangerous levels) and are brought into the world as 1 of 6 or 7 children that their parents cannot afford. 'We have bought a months supply of chicken meat....and we don't own a fridge'.

  • Riëtte - 2012-04-19 09:46

    The MEC is right, parents must teach their kids respect for themselves and others, but the point here is that our government's lack on delivery on so many aspects has degraded people and then respect for all is lost. Lead by example is a very true saying, especially the interaction between parents. Just on another note, the woman's league are outraged by this incident, but when their president were accused of rape they stood behind him? Seems they have double standards...

      ngoako.mathekga - 2012-04-19 10:10

      Bravo , well said ?

      Eugene Walters - 2012-04-19 10:18

      So this seven rapists defence will read ; Sorry u honor we were not brought up properly by our parents . We did not know right from wrong. shame

      Louise - 2012-04-20 20:39

      Yes, if streets were lit, townships wouldn't be the places of doom for law abiding people. And if townships had enough police that are not corrupt, women would be safer.

  • Renusha - 2012-04-19 10:04

    This is so disgusting. These rapists and every other rapists/murderers should get the maximum, harshest, punishment dealt to them and the only punishment I can think of, that befits this crime, is the Death Penalty. Whats even worse is this footage was viewed by people that watched on the internet too and kept quiet about it. Does this mean that they enjoyed what they watched, if not for that woman that went to the police. What does that say about them. They should also be charged and spend some jail time. This makes me so furious!

  • ngoako.mathekga - 2012-04-19 10:07

    You stop parents to discipline their children the way they know how(spare the rod, spoil the child) and later you blame parents wow. does that mean even corrupt politicians don't drop from sky? and what is government saying to the parents about that? Government is the last to blame parents when coming to disciplining of children.

  • Sethole - 2012-04-19 10:11

    I AM DISAPPOINTED ABOUT ANCWL,DURING JACOB ZUMA'S RAPE TRIAL THEY GANGED AGAINST THE VICTIM

      John - 2012-04-19 15:54

      Because there was nothing in it for them. I mean how many wives can he have, get in line sisters. ANCWL are a disgrace. waste of time.

      John - 2012-04-19 15:58

      How many of them have gone to see this poor girl? ZERO and never will. They'll all be at the mans wedding chanting viva take me next.

  • Claire - 2012-04-19 12:30

    No respect for human life... thats the problem, what makes it worse is the fact that people who commit acts like this also have human rights acording to our constitution which makes me sick!

  • mariana.barry - 2012-04-19 12:59

    Has our Honourable President Jacob Zuma responded to this inhumane act yet? I am a firm believer that you can read alot from a "no comment"

      John - 2012-04-19 16:10

      Give him a chance, right now he is trying to stop the demons in his cupboard from shaking it to bits.

  • curbylee1 - 2012-04-19 13:03

    I wrote an article and letter i.e. year ago. I am saddened that this government is not doing more to stop this. What is saddening is that one year from now, we will have this same type of report and worse and t money, no resources, no will to safeguard the future of a SANE South Africa. Read www.news24.com/my news24/yourstory/abuse-against-women-and-children-20110217/

      Louise - 2012-04-20 20:47

      There's STACKS of money for officals' hotel, travel, vehicle, food and party bills. Who said ANYTHING about a lack of money? Our very minister of women, children and disabled people is so well-known for her travels (overseas along with 54 officials from her new department) that Treasury says it's puzzled. She told parliament she can't travel "la-la class", meaning economy class. She claims she suffers from too poor health to be able to survive "la-la class"

  • Nirosha - 2012-04-19 13:15

    Their real justice will be meted out to them in prison. Who needs the death penalty.

      John - 2012-04-19 16:12

      They've got to get there first. Remember half of them are minors.

  • Louise - 2012-04-20 20:35

    Oh goodness, all these MEC's, ANCWL characters with their pointless "disgust." We see that everytime there's a vilent crime like the Mudimole Monster, this and others. Have these women who make so much noise and play to the TV camaras ever thought of working behind the scenes to ensure that there are sufficient mental health facilities in the country, educational programmes in schools about appropriate sexual behaviour, support for single mothers who have menatlly challenged children, etc? Our very minister of women, children and disabled people are being investigated right now by the Human Rights Commission for doing nothing for disabled people. But she's spent almost ALL her departments budget for the year ahead already - guess on WHAT? Travel!

  • puleng.choma - 2012-05-17 11:29

    bring back the death penalty so that rapists know its not right and they wil eventually die if they rape...

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