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Re-registration for Gauteng tolls - DA

2012-04-12 08:50

Pretoria - Road users who have registered for the e-tolling system and bought e-tags will have to re-register, after Sanral changed the terms and conditions, the DA said on Wednesday.

"They [Sanral] indicated that the new set of regulations will be consumer friendly. It is therefore essential for everyone to be registered under the new conditions," Democratic Alliance transport spokesperson Neil Campbell said.

Following a lengthy conciliation hearing presided over by the National Consumer Commission (NCC), Campbell said several changes would be made to the SA National Roads Agency Limited's current terms and conditions.

"It only makes better economic sense for Sanral to re-start the registration process under revised terms and conditions. We have managed to negotiate on the current terms and got an indication of revised terms and conditions to be implemented. We are confident that provisions that contravened the Consumer Protection Act (CPA) will be struck down," he said.

Public pressure

Registration for the process had been low, with only around 320 000 vehicle owners signing up for the scheme, in a province where four million vehicles were anticipated to be on the system. The new toll regulations were expected in two weeks.

"I think it is an honourable thing for Sanral to consider the concerns made by different stakeholders on the issue. Public pressure is effective."

Campbell said the hearing had been credible. Most points raised were interrogated, sparking optimism of favourable settlement.

The DA was pleased by Sanral's attendance of Wednesday's hearings. The meeting was the third attempt to get the roads agency to sit around a table with the political party and the consumer body. The hearings were a result of the DA's complaint regarding the toll system.

"Despite this, we still believe that the best interests for the consumer will be served by the scrapping of the entire (tolling) system."

Sanral was not immediately available for comment.

Earlier, farmers' union TAU SA voiced concern over the impact toll fees would have on food prices. Union president Louis Meintjes said farmers already had their backs against the wall with rising fuel prices and higher vehicle registration and licence fees.

The additional burden of toll fees on Gauteng freeways would put farmers in an impossible position, he told Transport Minister Sbu Ndebele in a letter released to the media.

"It becomes clear that primary producers of food are confronted by input cost increases which cannot be recovered from income received on markets."

Meintjes asked the minister for a personal conversation to reach a solution, not just about the toll fees, but also about other transport-related issues that affected farmers.

"Bearing in mind that food security should be regarded as a strategic national asset, the question arises whether the time has not come to reconsider issues which could be managed in the national interest which would contribute to ensuring the maintenance of productivity and the interest of the people."

Opposition to tolls

TAU SA joined a growing list of groups opposed to the introduction of the tolls. The Congress of SA Trade Unions recently led a march in protest over them, saying the costs would cripple poor people and small businesses already struggling with increasing fuel prices.

Earlier on Wednesday, Sanral said it would soon issue revised terms and conditions for road users registered for Gauteng's electronic tolling.

"We believe that these new terms and conditions will allay fears consumers may have," Sanral said.

Information on what these might be was not immediately available. The new terms and conditions were based on public concerns and recommendations, Sanral said. They would apply to all who had already registered or planned to register as users. Registered users would not be disadvantaged.

"This decision is a demonstration that we take the concerns and input of the public seriously. We also continue to co-operate and engage with the National Consumer Commission on this matter."

Sanral reiterated that it needed users' banking details only if they chose a specific payment option.

The Gauteng e-tolls are an open road tolling system with overhead gantries fitted with cameras to read vehicles' number plates as they pass underneath,. Tolling was scheduled to start on April 30.

Payment options included having fees deducted from credit card accounts with top-up thresholds set by account holders, or by pre-paying and topping up via e-tags mounted on the vehicle's windshield.

Visitors to Gauteng could register in advance for day passes. Users who did not register would be invoiced with a due date for payment.

Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan announced in his Budget in February that toll fees would be capped at R550 a month.

Comments
  • drishworth - 2012-04-12 09:00

    I did the 'right thing' and took time out to register - if it means having to take time out yet again to re-register I might just reconsider and join the millions who are taking a stand against the system and not register.

      Sazi - 2012-04-12 09:13

      Go on and be a traitor and sell your own country away to Austria. Not once have I even thought of walking to those orange rooms of doom to sign my wallet away.

      Vaughan - 2012-04-12 09:13

      People who register deserve to have their entire bank account cleared out every month!!

      Bigsexy.jm - 2012-04-12 09:27

      Sheep. Plain and simple

      Zing - 2012-04-12 09:37

      Do the right thing - Don't register!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-12 09:45

      The legacy of the 2010 SWC ! ### King Chaka White Elephant Airport; whch ACSA wants the ( flying ) public to pay for. And has harmed the foreign tourist industry !! ### Multi Billion Rand White Elephant STADIUMS, scattered around our country, where there is no money for the upkeep. Many of these stadiums, in walking distance of informal settlements!!! ### TOLL ROADS NO ONE WANTS TO PAY FOR !!!! And than we let FIFA take the US$ BILLIONS profit, home with them. We even gave the organisers a MEDAL !! Are we totally insane, to have been fooled by the biggest hoax ever to hit Africa!!!!!

      flysouth - 2012-04-12 09:53

      You did the wrong thing and by so doing you are a sell out. Have you not noticed that there is a major fight on this issue against the thieves who intend to skin us all? You have betrayed that cause. I suggest you do not do that again.

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-04-12 10:14

      @drishworth, problem now is, you are registered, with the old terms and conditions. Too late buddy. THEY GOT YOU, hook, line and sinker...

      Compos - 2012-04-12 10:16

      Those orange rooms are the only places at Centurion City where there are no queues. If I have to register to experience a short queue, so be it. :-)

      Irene - 2012-04-12 10:56

      WOW! So you've just admitted on a public forum that you're a moron? NO TO E-TAGS! DON'T REGISTER! ONLY A FOOL WILL REGISTER FOR E-TAG! YOU'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THE ROAD!

      Compos - 2012-04-12 11:11

      @Irene. Why do you call him a moron? Just because he paid for the e-tag? What a stupid thing to say. Personally I think he is an example of a law abiding citizen. I may not concur with the way they are implementing the system, but if you are a law abiding citizen then pay for the tag. If not, don't complain about lawlessness in South Africa.

      lkriel - 2012-04-12 11:22

      Ditto

      bradley.mills2 - 2012-04-12 11:27

      Idiot!

      Alan - 2012-04-12 11:41

      @Compos. You have a wiring problem boet! It is NOT law to have to register for E-Toll, and you can still be completely law abiding AND resist the UNJUST system being implemented. Wake up and smell the roses - if you support an UNJUST system, you are as bad as the people trying to implement it.

      Compos - 2012-04-12 12:20

      Ahhh the mob mentality of the brave behind their computers. The Metro cops only need to stop ten vehicles and you will all run to the nearest e-toll booth. I have said it on many forums, I do not like this toll-system and the way it is implemented. I even quoted from Olsen's work to show what the boere did to Paul Kruger's toll roads. But do not call someone who is paying the e-tags a moron. It shows your lack of upbringing. If you pass a tollgate and are expected to pay, what do you call that an invitation? If you are unhappy with the system, use your vote and change the government. That is why it is a democracy. People get the government that they deserve.

      Warmonger - 2012-04-12 12:22

      sanral can go and get knotted.. No e-tag for me, and I will NOT stop using roads my; and my Fathers - tax money built. Send me a 'bill', with a due date, I will defer payment as long as possible!! And then I think I will [short] pay by doing a cash deposit in as small denominations as I can, to incur maximum bank charges to sanral

  • osmaseko - 2012-04-12 09:04

    DA you don't understand, we don't want to pay finish and klaar nxa...!

      Craig - 2012-04-12 09:06

      I think they do if you READ the article..."Despite this, we still believe that the best interests for the consumer will be served by the scrapping of the entire (tolling) system."

      osmaseko - 2012-04-12 09:12

      if they were doing this in our best interest, they would not be sitting discussing terms and conditions...they would be negotiating for the etoll system to be scrapped.... don't you think?

      Vaughan - 2012-04-12 09:15

      That is why the DA is using every channel possible to delay and finally shut down the tolling system.

      Craig - 2012-04-12 09:19

      If the GOVERNMENT cared out its people they would stop this and get involved! The DA isn't even in control of that province yet they are the ones trying to help the people and negotiate better terms because the government couldn't give a damn - they just see money flying around.

      richard.fahrenfort - 2012-04-12 12:15

      @ osmaseko The DA do have the people's best interests in mind on this matter. The western cape tolling plans have been shelved where the DA have greater influence over these things. The gauteng tolling plans were shoved down our throats by the ANC gauteng provincial government and SANRAL. We have already been taxed to pay for these roads and now we are going to have to pay the tolls to pay for these roads again! Just to top it all off, the profits from this go to an Austrian company.

  • heini.falk - 2012-04-12 09:09

    LOL ... Ok so I cant wait for the 25th where all the unions block off all the roads and cause havoc on the roads. On a second point I wonder when will we stand together and just burn it to the ground like everything else we always disagree upon. Our youth burn down universities because its their right to education but when will our working class burn down or blow up these gantries because its our right to work and provide for our families? Stop complaining and resisting. Burn it down or blow it up. Thats the ONLY way to stop it.

      heini.falk - 2012-04-12 09:26

      To Add something I forgot to mention. It takes 1 million of us to complain and cry about it but it will take 1 Person to stand up and "fix" it and that person would be a hero

      mokoena.job - 2012-04-12 10:09

      If this SANRAL is scheming, we might as well have to establish or reconsider the duty of the IZINYOKA and help them with all the necessary equipments to steal the cables until it is totally down. please call me, I know several IZINYOKAS who can help.

      Mark - 2012-04-12 10:21

      both of you are promoting hooliganism. We can't behave like savages. The system needs to be scrapped and I hope the DA strategies work (to delay it until it's scrapped).

      heini.falk - 2012-04-12 11:51

      @Mark - You clearly have no clue do you? You want to be all proper and just so go get yourself a E-Tag. That's the right thing to do. What are you going to say in 10 year from now when you are asked "Where were you when they broke the economy?" You going to say no I voiced my opinion on News24 because I wouldn't take action but hoped someone would have a heart and listen to me? Getting back to reality Mark they couldn't give a damn about your comment or your sentiment. Talking has never worked with our gov. so saying it promotes hooliganism is probably the ONLY thing that will make them notice there is something going on. Back in the day when someone stole from you they were shot on the spot. Now they steal from us and we try to be so pathetic politically correct. Because oh no we cant do this and that but they are allowed to do whatever they want? Just go buy your E-Tag already.

  • Sazi - 2012-04-12 09:10

    They were busy handing out pamplets on the William Nicol offramp encouraging us to register, all the motorists next me never took any of them, but one idiot smilingly opened his window and took the thing! Felt like slapping the traitor!

      dewalds3 - 2012-04-12 10:04

      I also take them. They are for free and they are good for starting fires....

      mokoena.job - 2012-04-12 10:46

      you should take as many as you can, so they do not land in the hands of traitors.

      Keith - 2012-04-14 13:10

      He had run out of toilet paper.

  • Piet - 2012-04-12 09:13

    Slip in a couple of bulldozers and destroy them.....

      David - 2012-04-12 09:21

      Would be great. This is still going to get nasty.

      Piet - 2012-04-12 09:26

      Tell the copper thieves there is plenty copperwire availible.....

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-04-12 10:19

      And some cameras !!!

  • Michael - 2012-04-12 09:20

    Now's your chance to show your opposition to these people. If this has to be changed, what else is hidden from the public...remember every contract signed is binding, beware, don't re-register!

  • Warwick - 2012-04-12 09:21

    Don't register at all - klaar gepraat!! The DA must understand, we don't want better 'conditions' we want the lot scrapped, and that's the bottom line. Go OUTA, you guys are really our last hope. Either way, sanral get's nothing outta me - corrupt clowns. The more that fight back, the better our chances and if you do register, you deserve all the theft that comes your way, they will rape you!!

  • Mbongeni - 2012-04-12 09:25

    Vote DA

  • Neil - 2012-04-12 09:28

    Don't do it! Don't register! Unity in numbers!

  • Bigsexy.jm - 2012-04-12 09:28

    We should all send sanral a nice fruit basket ( ) ( ) *waves his buttocks at them*

  • debra.brasem - 2012-04-12 09:36

    ITS CALLED F.. US AROUND THEY CANT DO ANYTHING RIGHT!!!!!

  • Paul - 2012-04-12 09:38

    Must I now again get into my car drive to thier offices and fill in the forms all over again ? This is Africa aint it?

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-04-12 10:45

      Why did you do it in the first place ?????

      Kent - 2012-04-12 15:08

      @Paul. You deserve to walk only.

  • Zing - 2012-04-12 09:44

    DON'T BUY AN E-TAG! Do you pay your electricity account regularly? Well you're also paying for others who aren't paying! Unfortunately you're not given a choice. Once they have you registered for e-tag, you will be paying for tolls while others don't. Expect all the agreements that you see now to be forgotten in a few years. DON'T BUY AN E-TAG!

  • musazwane - 2012-04-12 09:49

    Sigh... the DA...

      Piet - 2012-04-12 14:57

      Jip you have to sigh, The ANC is out to pick us clean!

  • fuzile.matoto - 2012-04-12 09:50

    This makes me wonder, the DA can still manage to get SANREL to amend their terms and conditions. What or where our representatives looking at?

  • Elton - 2012-04-12 09:55

    Nice little money making scheme they have here. Drive on the roads to register...and they charge you or driving on the roads. Lets change the terms and make the people drive on the roads again so we can charge them again.

      Mike - 2012-04-13 00:53

      ... and, if that doesn't work, we'll change the name of the road just to confuse things even more.

  • Jacques Engelbrecht - 2012-04-12 10:00

    People in gauteng never need to have sex again, they will get screwed daily with these e-tolls

  • robbie.crouch - 2012-04-12 10:04

    So I have to make prior arrangements to visit Gauteng! Laughable to say the least, this sounds like the Dompass of old.

      eradingoana - 2012-04-12 10:59

      Definitely. You now need to have a passport when coming to Gauteng. Thanks for the African National Corruption

  • Riaan - 2012-04-12 10:07

    Keep on resisting people! Revised terms and conditions are just not good enough! This toll system can simply not be afforded by the general public..

  • ronzaled - 2012-04-12 10:16

    Okay maybe i wasn't clear the first 1000 times, so here it is SANRAL, I AIN'T PAYING FOR NO E-TAG NOR E_TOLL was that loud enough for you. Stop revising your terms and conditions and start unbolting the tolls

      Themba - 2012-04-13 23:04

      Its getting very expensive. Leaving in jhb I salute to all who have. Not register we pay to much tax rate

  • denise.wilshire - 2012-04-12 10:16

    United we stand, Divided we fall! Unity is strength and all of that! Can it be put any simpler. You are an idiot if you register. Let them bill you and provide an invoice each month. I want to see them get money out of the neighbouring states that send their trucks across our borders and thunder down our freeways. I will be most surprised.

  • wbrummer1989 - 2012-04-12 10:22

    This is really bad to all South Africans all over, pay pay pay, why do we pay tax for in anyway????

  • Thapelo - 2012-04-12 10:23

    for once the copper thieves must be useful and do something

  • Tedcason - 2012-04-12 10:46

    Why must we pay tolls when the roads are not complete and lanes are still closed and causing backups

  • zipho500 - 2012-04-12 10:49

    Mr e toll,the day u get a cent from me will be the day pigs start flying.I don't owe u chief!!

  • sekatejacob - 2012-04-12 10:54

    Business opportunity: i'm looking for people who will invest in Izinyoka ( chopper thiefs ).

      mokoena.job - 2012-04-12 14:33

      we are two in this one, tell them to contact me once they are interested.

  • Thomas - 2012-04-12 11:03

    E-nough for E-toll. Do the right thing and don't register!!!!!! Keep up the pressure and don't allow them to screw you, rather screw them and don't fall for their smooth talk!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • lynnethbs - 2012-04-12 11:09

    i wont register and no one will force me to do am paying tax finish and klaar!

  • justice.mpho1 - 2012-04-12 11:11

    E-tolling wow-the government has a sophisticated way to suck up money,just like the taxi driver saying 'we dont break the law,we're just bending it...' compromise!!!

  • nspaynter - 2012-04-12 12:21

    This is a nightmare! I am glad that I live in the Western Cape and we have a local government that would never allow this to happen.

  • Gloria - 2012-04-12 13:29

    Look, if they told me that they will take this money and protect the farmers, rhino's, abused children, poor families and give money to the SPCA I will pay it with a smile even if we are already paying for it VIA TAX! But let me come back to earth, this will never happen! Or..... open up a lane and cordon it off for people that WANTS to pay and enjoy the benefits to get to work on time. We are not gaining anything from this, we will still sit in traffic for hours and pay through our asses to be there!!

  • Jurgens - 2012-04-12 13:55

    I've spoken to some people who thinks the toll roads is great to keep the poor and older vehicles of the road! The rich will not feel the effect of the toll. The poor will be left poorer! I do not agree that it is the right thing to do, I will not register to use the toll roads!

  • Jurgens - 2012-04-12 13:55

    I've spoken to some people who thinks the toll roads is great to keep the poor and older vehicles of the road! The rich will not feel the effect of the toll. The poor will be left poorer! I do not agree that it is the right thing to do, I will not register to use the toll roads!

  • Lance - 2012-04-12 14:13

    i love toll road idea i own a ferarri sports car i need to go fast so less people on highway i get to feel enjoy the speed thx DA etoll forever

      Zing - 2012-04-12 15:38

      You don't need a sports car. You write so fast you don't even have time to check your spelling or grammar.

      Keith - 2012-04-14 13:16

      Well said, Zing!

  • Lance - 2012-04-12 14:16

    R500 a month is nothing i earn R65000 a month so if you can clear the highway im very happy. i think us rich people deserve everything. poor should stay at home

      Zing - 2012-04-12 15:38

      OK, now I know for sure you're talking rubbish. R65k pm doesn't buy you a Ferrari.

  • Ian - 2012-04-12 14:55

    Sanral has already turned the toll cameras & sensors on. Don't use the future toll roads ! This is allowing these thieves to build up a data-base of license plates and vehicle owners who normally use these routes. Just start watching your postbox filling up with ''gentle'' reminders to register.

      Piet - 2012-04-12 15:01

      I need fire starting material to braai with!

      Zing - 2012-04-12 15:40

      Let them send it. If they spend a few million rand a month on postage it will bring this thing to closure so much quicker.

  • Piet - 2012-04-12 14:58

    E-Tag = Dompass!!! Screw you!!!!!

  • Colin - 2012-04-12 16:51

    @compos...since when is buying an e-tag the law?

  • Roelof - 2012-04-12 19:23

    Hell No, We won't go (to e-toll booths)

  • Lekgwakgwa - 2012-04-16 08:07

    We want to thank DA to assist people on this e-toll, if this can start people must knows that DA is not ruling this province only ANC can stop because the rule province, we need to make sure that DA rule Gauteng in 2014 to make sure WE DELIVER FOR ALL not like ANC says WE MILK THE POOR AND WE WILL NOT SPEAK WITH THEM SCRAP E-TOLL NOW.

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