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Religious public holiday hearings start

2012-06-21 14:22

Durban - Hearings to discuss the possible revision of public holidays got under way in Durban on Thursday, with more than 100 people taking part in the discussions.

Four complaints sparked the discussion about the revision of public holidays, the Commission for the Promotion and Protection of the Rights of Cultural, Religious and Linguistic Communities said in Durban.

"Two complaints were received from Durban, one from the Free State and one from the North West province," commission advocate Aubrey Sedupane said.

"The complaints allege unfair discrimination, the lack of recognition [accorded] to other religions, and the basic condition of employment (act) which forces people who don't fall under the Christian religion to take leave," Sedupane said.

Members of the Youth Hindu Network, from Newlands in Durban, wore T-shirts which said "Make Diwali a public holiday".

Public hearings have been held in Gauteng and the Free State.

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  • ntshembolloyd.shibambu - 2012-06-21 14:32

    eh this zuma's anc yerrr,DA will have a lot of work after taking this country.

      marings.vank - 2012-06-21 15:00

      Anything which is of Christ in this country is being watered down and there is turning back. we heading for disaster. Antichrist has arrived.

      thutothegreat - 2012-06-21 15:41

      I dont care about religion, but please dont take my holidays away. All the long weekends I get to live and not work, rather not call it Easter or Christmas..

  • Bardy - 2012-06-21 14:35

    That should cancel all religious holidays and have people take leave on those days if they want off. Then we will see how these people moun! YOU ARE GETTING A DAY OFF FFS!!!!! Whats your problem???

  • Kala - 2012-06-21 14:37

    Scrap all religious public holidays and give us extra days leave to be taken when we want to. It's simple really. So if you want to celebrate Christmas then you put in leave. Same for Diwali, Yom Kippur, Easter etc.

      zaatheist - 2012-06-21 14:45

      I think we should scrap all public holidays and give everyone 7 days extra leave a year. Will help counter the road carnage of those long weekends when everyone wants to travel at once.

      nhlanhla.ndlovu.10 - 2012-06-21 14:59

      Remember that school children need to be accomodated too.

      Kala - 2012-06-21 15:07

      The school terms and holidays can stay the same.

      Skia - 2012-06-21 15:44

      how about december 31 & jan 1 holidays, then every last friday of the month off.

  • JohhnyBGood - 2012-06-21 14:38

    Make everyone a contractor. In other words=NO WORK = NO PAY. No-one will take leave and the country ill be much more productive. :)

  • Rodney - 2012-06-21 14:39

    Crazy , our economy cannot afford any more holidays. Can all religous holidays and give everybody three days a year off that they can use to celebrate their own specific faiths celebration .

  • murray.annandale - 2012-06-21 14:41

    What if someone makes their own religion? Then they must also get a holiday. i.e. Hasselhofinism

  • richard.zanner - 2012-06-21 14:42

    Well either then make them all holidays so we can stop working all together while we try and learn all the 11 official languages or cancel them all and let people take leave. The Jewish community have never complained and have simply taken those days off. Why make everything such a science. Spend more time running this country. AS it is we already have so many public holidays.

      ztoefy - 2012-06-21 15:03

      There have been plenty of religions that have not complained and were happy to take leave. Please don't only Highlight the Jewish faith. I agree with you though that we spending unnecesary time on this matter and in fact would prefer if they focused on other aspects. I don't care what happens as long as they don't prevent me from practising my religion or observing my religious holidays. I cant believe a big meeting is held for only two holidays ie Good Friday and Christmas.

  • warren.carne.9 - 2012-06-21 14:43

    4 complaints and we have a national hearing over holidays,I'm sure there's a hellova more complaints about crime,why don't the govt have a national hearing and discussion about that?. This govts priorities are so f-d up.

  • rocky.bell.927 - 2012-06-21 14:53

    4 complaints and a whole country comes to a standstill. Chuck me Farlie. Can only be Efrika

  • marion.friedenthal - 2012-06-21 14:54

    So does this mean that when four people complain and one hundred people attend to express their opinions the other millions will just have to accept the outcome of whatever those less than 200 people come up with? Here's my vote for what it's worth. You can take Christmas and Easter and make them into any holiday you like. I don't need a man-ordained public holiday to be at one with the God I believe in.

      beryl.knipe - 2012-06-21 15:51

      Well said, Marion!

  • louis.nolte.3 - 2012-06-21 14:56

    While the majority of the population struggles to keep head above water, the government has hearings over religious holidays. They probably think its a way of nailing the so called 'europeans' (afrikaners) who are mostly Christian. What they don't realise is how many South Africans of other ethnic origin are Christian.

  • fhedzani.sadiki - 2012-06-21 14:57

    South Africa is not a Christian state but a constitutional democracy.

  • phiwo.gasa - 2012-06-21 15:02

    Oh no! When will the people get time to drink?!

  • juan.nel.184 - 2012-06-21 15:07

    Only 2 Christian Holidays. Other religions get their days as "religious" leave days that do not go off annual leave. 4 Complaints. 3 hearings for this. No hearings for bad service areas! What a freaking waste of time!

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-06-21 15:12

    Scrap all holidays, outlaw trade unions, BEE & AA and let those who wish to work, work. I assume that all 100 people participating belong either to the ANCYL or the Mother party and that they received their free chicken and T-shirts.

  • wikusp - 2012-06-21 15:12

    This is a predominantly Christian country that's why we have all the public holidays. If you take away Christian public holidays from the masses take away BEE and affirmative action in the process. The minority has spoken! Viva!

  • lauren.myburg - 2012-06-21 15:13

    The government cant feed or house the poor, they cant stop greed, fraud and corruption, they cant stop unemployment, they cant seem to stop Malema, they cant stop violence, murder, rape, pornography, they cannot educate the youth properly … but hell yes, they will all get together and try and end Christian holidays, what a waste of tax payers money .. FFS, concentrate on what is supposed to be important and necessary for this decaying country of ours!!!

      donovan.hendricks.7 - 2012-06-21 15:26

      And what a waste o taxpayers money these conferences will be,I wonder who won the tender for the catering? A minister's wife or a well connected cadre as usal?

  • celest.pretorius.9 - 2012-06-21 15:13

    Giving leave days will make it extremely difficult for schools, with parents taking their children out of the school when they take their 'religious' holidays.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-21 15:15

    why bother, Cosatu members get like 2 months paid toyi toyi leave followed by increases they don't deserve. the ANC government will soon setup a committee to study how ant farts effect global warming.

  • Bheki Nas - 2012-06-21 15:18

    we need holidays like africa day..easter holidays just a waste of time and money..

      Irene - 2012-06-21 17:46

      LOL! What's to celebrate about Africa?

  • Steve - 2012-06-21 15:22

    have x public holidays : religion and other ie 16 person to choose y of these : ie 8 if falls on a sat or sunday - bad luck this yr ie muslim and other prayers times also fall into this basically would get 8 holidays times 8hrs = 64 hrs in a yr for religion /prayers /holidays etc person cant chop and change religion - can relook at every 3-5 yrs

  • Adriaan - 2012-06-21 15:24

    The ANC that stole christmas... or is it the grinch. Just spend millions on ammending the labour act to give everybody an extra 5 days off a year and hear them moan as "not everybody can take off on the same day" principle starts kicking in. Then see the decline in Retail and tourism figures. The hypocrits all draw the benefits at the moment but as is greed, they want more. Goes beyond me.

  • morena.tsolo - 2012-06-21 15:34

    This process shall put to rest one of the Apartheid last remaining corner stone, the people have been lied to about this religion and it's god and this will show that there is no superior religion in this country all of them are just a figment of a man's imgination. We are sick and tired of being brain washed...

      werner.coetzer.311 - 2012-06-21 15:43

      jy is n mongool

  • Bongani - 2012-06-21 15:37

    why dont we just put all holidays around same time. No one can say Jesus was born in December for sure and Diwali and any other religion, people just picked a day. i say make december a month of holidays.

  • werner.coetzer.311 - 2012-06-21 15:40

    ok, then I would also like to go \pray\ for 2 hours every Friday, there' s a cozy lil pub close by that would do just fine.

  • maryclarice.pelser - 2012-06-21 15:41

    That is why this country is the way it is, because very little people want to acknowledge God and His Holy days, But then again, the ANC think that they are God.

      thutothegreat - 2012-06-21 15:46

      Where does the ANC come in on this article, I am starting to think that white people have secretly agreed that from now on, instead of saying Blacks, they will say ANC.. This hearing is happening on a public forum..

      jason.mcdonahugh - 2012-06-21 15:55

      @thutothegreat yes thats exactly it you guys made the word black racist so now we just call you ANC, when we had our secret overthrow the country meeting in oranje it was decided. yes that sarcasm for any one who didnt notice.

  • tshibalo.virginia - 2012-06-21 15:41

    Dat is the way of spending money y dont they supply books to limpopo rather dan spend it for nothing leave xmax and easter for us as citizen not only for crestian vhurivhuri is were i stay

  • Denton - 2012-06-21 15:50

    Change all Public Holidays to a Monday and call them Bank Holidays then no Religion or culture can complain. It will also help the economy due to mid week disruption etc.

  • jeffrey.jones.357 - 2012-06-21 15:53

    Next thing the muslims will want the whole month of Ramadan as paid holiday. If their religion is so important to them they can go and live in a country that gives them their religious holidays.

  • beryl.knipe - 2012-06-21 15:54

    I think it's a really good idea that working folk take leave if they want to observe their observances. That should shut everyone up.

  • beryl.knipe - 2012-06-21 15:56

    Just shows how democracy isn't working! So, 200 will decide for the masses? Tch, tch!

  • pastorchris.mukoki - 2012-06-21 16:15

    Here we go again. Christianity under attack. Why? because they are an easy target. I was in Egypt recently. There are about 10-15% of Christians. Do you think Christian holidays are recognised? Not a chance! Majority rules. Muslims are in the majority. That is pure democracy. In South Africa, Christians are 80% of the population. Muslims less than 2%, Hindu less than 0.5%. Why the halabaloo about Eidd and Diwali to be included as holiday? Do you think Christmas is celebrated in India? South Africans are busy dying and losing their identity,

      moko.brian - 2012-06-21 16:41

      Understood, but remember that South Africa is a Democratic Country guided by a constitution which dictates that there should be equal rights for every citizen. This is not Egypt buddy

      danie.bouwer.9 - 2012-06-21 19:55

      @Moko based on your logic all political parties should have equal say. A democracy by default means that majority rules. So if 80% of the population is Christian then Christian holidays should be observed by default. I do however feel that all religious holidays should be scrapped and only members of a given faith may take the religious days which are relevant to them. That way there are no freeloaders and everyone get the chance to practice their religion.

  • Peter - 2012-06-21 16:16

    25 December and Easter or Ishtar are pagan holidays the Roman Catholics merged with Christianity. We Christians will celebrate Christ birth, death and Resurrection on any day. True Christians celebrate Christ eveyday. The Babylonian pagans running the world and South Africa will never surrender their holy days. So, 25 December and Easter (Ishtar) will remain.

  • shimiPetje - 2012-06-21 16:48

    to be honest, how many public holidays are actuali religious. We hav xmas, easter n then da rest are important public holidays like youth day, freedom day, etc. So basicali people are complainin for just two days

      moko.brian - 2012-06-21 17:00

      Yes for just two days and simply because they also have a right to their two days of practising their religious beliefs without having to take leave. I do not blame them, our constitution allows equal rights for every citizen. While they are at that, they will also demand change to the National Anthem, "Morena (God) boloka sechaba sa heso", they will want to include Allah. Rastafarians will follow and demand that Jah also be included in the National Anthem, they have every right to demand all this. This is not a religious country but rather a constitutional country. Thwy should have done away with religious holidays when they introduced the constitution

  • Shane Kelly - 2012-06-21 17:04

    maybe they should cancel all the public holidays it will save company's a lot of money

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-06-21 17:33

    Public holidays generally have a negative effect on productivity but I think there should be days when the nation as a whole celebrates something together. So I think every Monday should be a public holiday so we can celebrate the start of a new productive week. Fridays we can take off to celebrate the achievements of that week.

      tolo.maano - 2012-06-21 18:09

      I m wth u thr

  • Mabeyeni Benjamin - 2012-06-22 21:54

    people r abusing this democracy, how can one country accommodate all these religions at the same time. the calendar should remain like this

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