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Report: Gauteng toll costs excessive

2011-04-05 11:37

Johannesburg - The per-kilometre cost of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP) appears to be much higher than similar international projects, a report released on Tuesday shows.

"... An examination of the GFIP construction costs suggests that the per kilometre cost is extremely high - possibly as much as 106% to 228% higher than that of equivalent international projects," according to the report prepared by economist Mike Schussler.

The report said although there was not much information available on how the SA National Roads Agency (Sanral), which manages the GFIP, determined the toll fees, it must have considered road construction costs.

The Gauteng toll fees were set at 66c/km before a public outcry led to them being put on hold and a committee formed to reassess the pricing.

The report, prepared for presentation to the GFIP e-toll steering committee which is looking into the price of toll fees, used two data sources to make international comparisons.

Far above international costs

The first was highway projects recently financed by the World Bank.

Many of these projects were green fields - that is not new upgrades -highway construction projects in countries with per capita gross domestic product levels much lower than South Africa.

"On a per kilometre basis, the GFIP costs 228% more than the World Bank funded projects."

The second was the Washington State Department of Transport (WSDOT), which compiled a database of US highway construction costs.

"The United States is a much wealthier nation compared to South Africa, which should tend to increase its labour and land costs in construction," the report read.

"However, of the GFIP comparable projects outlined by the WSDOT, per kilometre construction costs averaged $6.59m in 2004 (or $7.49m in 2009 terms).

"The GFIP's estimated costs are 106% higher."

‘Excessive’ inflation of costs

The report warns that many factors influence construction costs so caution should be applied in interpreting cost comparisons.

"However, the size of the difference in price is too large to leave questions in this regard unanswered.

"Indeed, if the costs of the GFIP are inflated excessively, due to inefficiencies or other factors during the commissioning and construction processes, it will be inappropriate for Sanral to simply transfer the excess costs to the commuter and commercial road freight industry," the report read.

Transport regulator recommended

It said there was a "clear need" for a neutral party to investigate the Sanral figures to determine if the construction costs were excessive.

"As most of the project only involved the building of a single additional lane in each direction, there must be concerns about the high cost of the GFIP compared to other countries - even compared to (higher) first-world building costs."

The sector had no price regulator, so the potential for excessive construction costs was a threat.

The report recommends that government consider establishing a transport regulating authority to oversee and regulate toll tariffs in South Africa.

The report was commissioned by the Road Freight Association and AfriForum.

Comments
  • ji - 2011-04-05 11:52

    whats new , the tax payer and private motorists are always being ripped off by anything and anyone to do with the ANC .

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-04-05 12:10

      The motorist is being ripped off! We pay taxes, we pay municipal taxes, we pay petrol tax and here in the Cape, we pay an extra tax on top of our vehicle licence (at least, from all accounts, our Cape roads are in better shape than the rest of the country!). We, the motorist, are not benefitting from this. The only ones benefitting are the elite ANC mafia who are ripping us off left, right and centre!

      Stoutgat - 2011-04-05 12:39

      Be reasonable here, ji - Maybachs, 7-series BMWs, gravy planes and overseas trips to 5-star resorts are very expensive. Rather thank your lucky stars that you have the privilege to pay for the perks above for the Azanian National Corruption's terrorists.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-05 12:59

      Someone has to pay for the Beemers and Mercs the ministers did not earn in an honest days work.

      denmarku - 2011-04-05 13:39

      @Ji-I agree. But, Sbu Ndebele and his other Sanral idiots should be held accountable for this gigantic mess they have created. Good heavens, any “normal” person would know that when you deal with taxpayers monies, you have a duty to spend the funds wisely! Also, I battle to understand how the actual tender was awarded to the foreign company...were there kick-backs involved, did the government-issued calculators/laptops have batteries in them when the ANC officials did the price/quote comparisons, and worse still, was the tender process just a paper exercise? Hopefully, the GFIP’s basis to award the tender will be scrutinised a little bit further! Time and time again, it appears as if the ANC has enormous difficulty in understanding the basic principles of business, ethics and rules of proper governance! Even general common sense appears to be a completely foreign concept to the ANC officials...

  • A(N)ON - 2011-04-05 11:58

    Someone's obviously been licking the gravy off this train - SA has supposedly orders of magnitude lower labour costs than the US or other first world countries. Construction material is cheaper and yet total EOJ cost is >200% higher - wonder who skimmed this one? In my opinion a toll tax on fuel in the highveld would have been a far simpler and cost effective method to recover the toll fees than the fancy e-tag gizmos that they opted for. What a waste of good taxpayers money firstly to erect the structures and secondly to administer the charges. Can we really afford such idiocracy and greed in our echelons?

      Rob Gunning - 2011-04-05 12:12

      I agree, tolling should be outlawed. If they need the money to maintain the road then take it out of fuel levies.

      n s - 2011-04-05 12:43

      problem is there are no fuel levies to take from, it goes missing, it most certainly does not go towards road maintenance. And yes, did they include the taxes we are already paying to come up with this ridiculous attempt?

  • kold one - 2011-04-05 11:58

    I heard something very interesting from a high up government official with regards to the tolls. He said that the toll fees are going to stay the same . It was already decided awhile back , and the only reason the ANC appears to have it on hold is because of the elections.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-04-05 12:11

      Wouldn't surprise me one single bit!

  • jeremy - 2011-04-05 12:05

    Fascinating figures! So let's hope then that the proposed toll fees come down by a minimum of 106% - which would reduce them from 66c to around 31c. I could live with that! On the other hand, I spoke to the DA Gauteng transport spokesperson recently. He assured me that if the DA came to power in the upcoming local elections, it would scrap the new toll fees entirely. So you know where my vote's going......

      jiamalunga - 2011-04-05 12:12

      WHAT? We should boycott it!

      jeremy - 2011-04-05 12:31

      The point of a democracy, jiamalunga, is that when you're pissed off with the government, you vote for the opposition and give them a chance. Boycotting the election achieves absolutely nothing.....

      chris. - 2011-04-05 12:52

      Don't fall for this cheaper fees nonsense! They must scrap the idea completely, if we let them get away with 30c it'll go up to 66c in no time! We pay enough already!

      jiamalunga - 2011-04-05 13:49

      No jeremy, not the Elections! The tolls! Boycott the tolls and vote for the DA

  • will294 - 2011-04-05 12:07

    Everything is much more expensive in SA than elsewhere

  • Maki - 2011-04-05 12:09

    The reason things cost more in Africa than in the West is because of the higher lending rates. If a yankee builds a road at 2% prime and we do the same at 5% then of course our costs double. Someone has to pay for it, this is better cause the rich people who drive luxury 4X4 foot the bill. Use a bus.

      Sedick - 2011-04-05 12:24

      @Maki. Do you really think before you type, or do you type after getting pissed? you obviously don't have a clue. If interest rates double, it does not mean that the repayment doubles......what bus are we suppose to use - and remember that the bus fares will go up because of the high toll fees.....

      Bloodbane - 2011-04-05 12:36

      @Maki - no it's because we have criminals running the country

      Peter - 2011-04-05 12:46

      Maki you have it all wrong. The reason things in Africa are always more expensive is because there are too many people between the producer and the consumer each demanding their piece of the action.The ANC fatcats get the tenders and then employ the lower tenderers to do the job. IT'S AN AFRICAN THING. BUNCH OF BLOODY CROOKS!!!!!!

      Ollie - 2011-04-05 12:50

      You are so ignorant re economics - You will also be getting ripped off re all the luxury cars that your ANC government drives and the upkeep of their houses/wives/travel.Your bus fares and food is going to go up re the toll fees - or maybe this doesn't affect you because you don't pay any tax you don't work? and you eat home grown vegetables and maybe you have some chickens.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-05 13:01

      Yes typical African thinking, we will build it poorly and overcharge them but don't worry they will still vote us in.

      Chanelle Greef - 2011-04-05 13:02

      @Maki - but it won't be only the rich people who drive luxury 4x4s who will foot the bill. It will also be the trucks that deliver bread and maize to the shops. This means that even the poorest of the poor will help to pay, because if you think for even one second that those companies will simply absorb those extra expenses, you are either very naive or plain stupid. And then I don't even mention the poor guy who could only just afford his second-hand city golf, but chooses to drive because he doesn't want to be late for work three days out of four. He also has to pay, you know.

      tonno - 2011-04-05 13:10

      @maki - shame, Maki, were you also one of the previously disadvantaged that didn't get a chance to go to school? No worries, we won't hold such an idiotic statement against you. But thanks dude, your "of course our costs double" comment made me smile nonetheless.

      Maki - 2011-04-05 13:17

      Go to FNB, calculators, enter 1 million for a bond at 9%, then enter the same capital amount at 18% - Doubling interest equates to more than double the repayment. Banking 101 !

      tonno - 2011-04-05 13:27

      (still smiling)... you obviously didn't make it to Banking 201.

      CvdH - 2011-04-05 14:44

      Wahahaha....its not just the idiot JM struggling with woodwork; Maki has NO clue about maths. No wonder our country is in such a mess with these idiots in charge!

      Tilo - 2011-04-05 15:14

      If this country would rely on buses to get the people that pay taxes to work, there would be no taxes. We have to to use cars to be economically active, even if it costs us an arm and a leg and a nose and heart! that's problem with most arguments of ANC supporters, they never thing through an argument beyond the first step.

      saburger - 2011-04-05 16:04

      Maki, the reason this country gets so expensive, is: 1- Very expensive labour force - thanks to trade unions 2- Poor administration that might bankrupt the country - the higher the risk, the higher the interest rates 3- Corruption 4- Poor or zero productivity

  • Rob Gunning - 2011-04-05 12:10

    More expensive to use the road than the actual cost of the petrol. Amazing.

  • o Great one - 2011-04-05 12:10

    its called bribing

  • jiamalunga - 2011-04-05 12:11

    Just Boycott it! It is time that we tell these Parasites that we are already paying enough tax for them to line their pockets with. The Germans got it right to tell them to take a hike with the same system!!! Come on!!!

      Mike - 2011-04-05 12:23

      yes just cover up all identifying numbers on the cars & trucks, they cannot stop hundreds of thousands of motorists at the same time , its time to tell the government to get F........ed

      Nigro - 2011-04-05 12:53

      Yes you are right,lets boycott.Taxi drivers toytoy when they want the authorities to here them,lets do the same,we can bring this country to its knees if we want.Working together we can achieve all we want

  • chiepner - 2011-04-05 12:24

    Of coarse it would be higher. Some politicians had to be bribed with millions of rands in the first place to award the contracts, get their tendertrepeneurs involved which inflated costs even more and then try and extract even more money from the entire tolling system. CORRUPTION = HIGHER COSTS IN EVERYTHING! Because we the common people are footing the bill for the nice mansions, lanie cars, italian suits, sushi driven jols, expensive watches, second story lift for your lanie car, another mansion........it just goes on and on. FREEDOM comes with a price and it seems the price tag is increasing with each passing day.

      n s - 2011-04-05 12:48

      freedom was never enough

  • Kenneth - 2011-04-05 12:25

    Quick question, Will this new consumer protection ac protect us against anything here. Maybe we can all sue / charge sanral when things go wrong, eg, free flowing highways jammed up.

      Brad - 2011-04-05 12:44

      Sorry buddy - unfortunately most Govt Depts are excluded from this Bill. Jeez, I wonder why?!!!

      Kenneth - 2011-04-06 09:57

      Please check out the following website - i accessed it from my Blackberry, so not to sure what link would be on PC: http://itweb.mobi/home/item_d-42349/ - it seems the consumer protection act is or might be a thorn in the side of SANRAL - i got this from @tweetmyattorney on twitter...

  • RIMRIM - 2011-04-05 12:28

    185Km of highway at R20Billion rand. Over R100million Per km. CRAZY STUFF THIS!

      o Great one - 2011-04-05 12:43

      Ja But the road is on R100000 per Km the rest went to the power that be

      SaintBruce - 2011-04-06 11:18

      That works out at R 112 000 per metre. Can a Quantity surveyor please tell me how much stone, concrete, grading time cost, labour , tar and road rip up machine time COULD be used to make a metre of national highway 4 lanes wide ( with only 2 new lanes - R21 freeway)? In the 1980's it cost R 11000 per metre so have we had a x TEN increase in costs since then? Is this real? Oh - a Freeway is just that - free! How can you do a Freeway improvement project and then charge tolls? Change these to highways and then explain the robbery bit....not so LOL.

  • warickw - 2011-04-05 12:31

    Typicall

  • The All Seeing Eye - 2011-04-05 12:36

    Dear Mike Have you been living in a hole that you need a report to tell you the obvious. Clearly the extra cost is required for the bribes and supporting the ANC. How is the ANC supposed to support there lavish life style. Money doesn't grow on trees you know.

  • Le sage - 2011-04-05 12:38

    Agree fully with findings...The rip off actually starts with the car before it even hits the road. Car price is excessive in this country given low labour cost compared to USA and EU. Competition commission should run a complete investigation on car prices in SA.

  • Matthew Dean - 2011-04-05 12:39

    We whities may complain about the bunch of thieves known to the world as the ANC, but in the end 66% of people vote for these people. So let's put it in some other terms. Taxis will raise their price, not by 50c but by rands. The price of food, also basic food like mielies and pap, will go through the roof because the truck that took it to the shop pays R4 per KM to get it there. In the end, the poor will get A LOT POORER. But hey, you don't want to vote Zille, so rather vote ANC and end up starving to death in a mud-hut... because as long as Mr Zuma and his fellow criminals have their BMWs with petrol in them, poor is what they want you to be. They don't care if you live or die. Viva ANC huh...

      n s - 2011-04-05 12:53

      They will starve to death than vote for someone else, because if you vote for the ANC you will have heaven, I just didn't think JZ was serious hahaha

      WillF - 2011-04-05 13:04

      @Mathew Dean - Who's 'we whities'?? You obviously live in Gauteng... A lot of you whities up there vote FFP and all those screwball type parties. Anything right wing is just as bad as voting forthe ANC. Here in the Cape we vote DA - coloured, white and black you tjop Mathew Dean. BTW we have no interest to know what flavour you are - its how you think that counts...

      Matthew Dean - 2011-04-05 13:22

      @ WillF - yes, the WC voted DA and look how well it is doing. Besides GP (yes, I live in JHB) all other 8 provinces blindly vote for the ANC. And I doubt half of GP votes FFP - though I know the type of voters you mean and I'm not one of them... a lot of voters have become disillusioned as a result, I find among the whites that they have this attitude of "the ANC will get in so why should I vote". Maybe it's because they don't vote that the ANC gets in easier? Looking forward to 18 May, to give 1 more vote to the opposition :-)

      cerveza - 2011-04-05 15:03

      @Matthew - you whites are a bunch of racist idiots, we whitees and we darkies and we "number 318 on the plascon charties" people that are intelligent will never say we whities or we whatever colouries, as we have enough intelligience to realise that not everyone that have the same skin colour thinks like we do and that it is stupid to make such a generalising statement, viva ignorence huh...

      Matthew Dean - 2011-04-05 15:17

      @ Cerveza - "you whites are a bunch of racist idiots". Talk about a joke - calling a race group racist and insodoing making a racist statement yourself! I don't want to stereotype but so far, I am yet to find 1 white who votes ANC, or would even have a slight reason to vote ANC; yet 66% of the people vote for them. Why is it that many districts in SA have ANC counsellors, they were voted for by the people - who 17 years into the New SA still have bugger-all and live in poverty? What about stories where people are unable to read or write and are told by the IEC!!! that they must put a cross next to the ruling party? What about areas where the residents go on a rampage because they're fed up of the ANC, then refuse to vote - DUH then if just 1 person in that area votes ANC, they get re-elected... somehow I don't see anyone telling such people what the TRUTH is, or what their RIGHTS are - let the uneducated masses just keep voting for the ANC so that the ANC can keep on pillaging and stealing.

      cerveza - 2011-04-05 17:21

      @matthew - if you had a bit of common sense you would have figured out that I used both you whities and we whities to show there are a diversifacation between people of the same skin colour, and the only part of the white race I insulted are the ignorent racist ones that makes generalising statements, like you, the rest of the people I included in the 2nd part of my comment, so please re-read it, think about it and figure out you are the joke, for failing to realise when you are ignorent and for trying to misquote me in an attempt to hide your ignorance

  • Kevin - 2011-04-05 12:42

    All those that vote for corruption ,lies, stealing ,skimming and look after your mate no matter who he killed or what he stole . These silly voters must pay the toll as there vote means all our tax money is misused and therefore a toll becomes necessary.

  • Badger - 2011-04-05 12:43

    Some one must pay for the desires of the shower head!!!

  • briansmith702 - 2011-04-05 12:49

    Just some more ANC cadre theft. What is new. Well done Mike Shussler. What we need to know is who gets the contracts and how the tenders were supervised? A bloody disgrace as usual with anything this Govt. does.

  • Brad - 2011-04-05 12:53

    For me, this entire situation smacks of poor planning and wishy-washiness! Very few key people were consulted. Tell me, were the emergency services even consulted about the tolls? I mean, ambulances need to travel the same roads! This kind of thing should take many more months or even years to plan and to gather public opinion. Yet, it was sprung on us a few months before inception. Truly, I feel someone somewhere is receiving a prize for "all this work"....likely in the form of a major bribe, or Merc, or house. A full-scale investigation needs to be conducted and the decision-makers need to be held accountable for nonsensical decisions! That is the problem nowadays - lack of accountability! It usually creeps into areas where people don't know what the hell they're doing, and therefore don't need to take responsibility! No wonder the rest of the world believes that Africa is a joke.

      Bottom line - 2011-04-05 13:01

      That's because Africa is a joke

  • jannie.swem16 - 2011-04-05 12:54

    saw an interesting thing the other day at a "state"funeral close to my house. There were about 100 cars in convoy and when they all parked had a look at the calibre of motor vehicles these government cronies and officials drive. BMW X5s BMW 535GT X6s, Audi q7s, 4 Porsche Panamera's,Cayennes, & series BMWs S Class Mercedes, i think the cheapest car there was a 3 series or an A4. Where do these civil servants get off??? Living like arab shieks in this impoverished country. Its quite simple. They get nice salaries - and they benefit from rigged government tenders. and where does the money come from? OUR WALLETS the few taxpayers that this country has.. Collectively there was easily 50 Million rands with of CARS. Now one can imagine the armani suits, the mont blanc pens, the Breitling watches, the gucci handbags... Civil service has never been about enrichment, it seems that the african matra of live like a king when the peasants suffer is the self entitlement that some people have spoken of. The gap between the have's and the have nots is widening. I have a great career and I earn good money. I have two kids and a wife.. Im driving 2nd hand cars and living in a decent home in decent suburb.Making end meet is not easy. I can only imagine what these vampires are earning. the toll road is theer for one reason and that is to enrich the ANC elite. and you blind ANC supporters still vote for them, just because you can now afford a 3 series BMW and live in a single bed flat.

      saburger - 2011-04-05 13:29

      You are correct Jannie. The problem is how long will it take to bankrupt the country? This looting of our assets should stop immediately! We cannot afford it anymore. Just this morning on RSG, Mike Schussler's report was discussed. What is very worrying for our tax payers, is the fact that all taxes collected by petrol levies and other methods are used for other purposes - mainly to pay for this country's unaffordable welfare services. What guarantees do we have that this toll fees will be used for purpose of collection - not even to mention the very expensive method of collections?

  • Zooma Lema - 2011-04-05 12:57

    Let THEM toll, WE will strike till they are on their knees. Come on SA lets unite on this one and show the government what real power is. Let us all strike until they zero rate the toll fees on these roads.

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-04-05 13:10

      I like the idea that all drivers unanimously cover up their number plates the day the toll system comes into effect (Mike's idea on this forum). The truth is that SANRAL will come back with a reduced rate for the toll, but within a few onths, ridiculous increase will take place again (sounds like what Eskom did). We gotto fight for scrapping this plan all together. Those that live outside of Gauteng will also be affected by the toll system, your service costs will go up and the Toll system is planned for the rest of the country in due time.

      Dave - 2011-04-05 13:17

      I've said before, I gpoing to have a permanent bucket of mud next to my garage......how can they prove it?

      SaintBruce - 2011-04-05 14:40

      Someone came up with a briliant idea - just buy the e-tag, use it a few times then leave it at home. When they bill you the standard rate you complain bitterly that their 'system' does not work as you have an e-tag! This will tie them up in such doubt about when, how and if the system works that they will switch it off. This sophisticated system will not be viable here in Africa especially as it failed in Germany.

  • HowardX - 2011-04-05 13:04

    I'm sure the inflated cost probably comes down purely to planning and management inefficiency. I've never understood why it took so many years to widen an existing highway and why there seemed to be never ending empty construction sites simultaneously across the whole Gauteng highway system. For the whole duration, you could drive from JHB to PTA passing through a continuous construction zone but only pass one small crew of workers actually doing something, and then just when you thought they were finished, they'd close lanes for months to fiddle around with the barriers or the lights or something. I acknowledge that I am no expert on civil construction but I often travel to Thailand and whole elevated highways appear in six months gaps between trips - the contrast is startling.

      PoorMe - 2011-04-06 09:07

      At last someone asking a good question, Why is it taking so long to complete this work? Will Annendale ever be finished? Why do they not cleanup the road after finishing a fix up job any job, 3 windscreens in 6 months? I still travel to work at 30km/h on a stop start basis on the new improved 4 lane highway but now I must pay for the torment! They would have done better to put in a mono-rail public transport system.

  • Agent - 2011-04-05 13:09

    I wonder if ever the right person has a read these comments or are they brought to the front on a Satuday eve and a good laugh is had by all the polititians.

  • Pieter Wardeck - 2011-04-05 13:13

    the bribes are included in this package which double the fee

  • Trevor - 2011-04-05 13:26

    LMAO...the ANC KNEW people would object so, make the rate HIGH, then when ti comes time to negotiate, drop it to what they want...you really think they wanted the 66c/km?????? They just playing games with the public and we are falling for it. We should not be paying AT ALL...ANC just hit the fuel with more tax again, we pay HUGE amounts of taxes already for this so this tollgate bull should not even be on the table!!

  • The_Realist - 2011-04-05 13:34

    these toll fees are a forgone conclusion and a done deal, literally! the politically connected elite few (tokyo 'sexwhale') and company want their 'munny'!

  • Legend - 2011-04-05 13:36

    I don't think Mike Schussler is an expert on road construction, he is an economist with limited experience on factors affecting road construction cost. The fact that he is comparing the GFIP construction cost (upgrade of existing roads with large traffic volumes)to Greenfields costs (new road with no traffic) says it all. A greenfields project is a complete new road where there is no traffic and work efficiency is much higher. GFIP probably spent up to 30% of their cost just to accommodate traffic. For GFIP they worked at night, cannot reach the same production levels as for a Greenfields project due to restricted work areas, further increasing the cost. The other main factor is that most of the work had to be completed for the Soccer World Cup where the Construction Companies had to dump resources on the work to finish in time. Again a huge cost implication. The GFIP projects also coincided with stadium construction and Gautrain therefor the old supply and demand thing also came into play. In SA there is probably only 10 Companies big enough to tackle one of these GFIP projects (I think there were 7 of these GFIP projects). With the stadiums and Gautrain the Construction Companies made a killing. There is nothing you can do about that it is all economics. If GFIP could have been implimented over a longer period cost would have been drastically less. At the end we pay because of the Soccer World Cup. MS will need to re-visit his report!

  • The Observer - 2011-04-05 13:41

    We knew that. The difference in cost is so that bonuses can be paid to the anc cadres.

  • Simon - 2011-04-05 13:45

    How many hands need to be filled before it hits the tax payer??

  • Clint - 2011-04-05 13:45

    SIMPLE SOLUTION - DON'T USE THE TOLL GO AROUND! BETTER STILL PUT A COUPLE OF TRUCKS AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE TOLLS AND BLOCK THE WHO SYSTEM. WE NEED TO START A CONSUMER BOYCOTT. THEY ARE COLLECTING ENOUGH MONEY AS IT IS. SARS WAS BRAGGING ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY COLLECTED JUST THE OTHER DAY. WHATS GOING ON!

  • The Observer - 2011-04-05 13:47

    There are so many issues with this tolling. My big issue still is how will the out of towners pay the toll. Take the R21. There are hundreds of heavy load vehicles from Zimbo travelling that road each week. Trucks are the biggest cause of road decay so now how the hell are these trucks going to pay for using the highways? I for one has already worked out my alternative routes so will not using the tolled roads. I will give this anc gov nothing more than what I have to so not to go to jail.

      Spanners - 2011-04-05 14:30

      i fully agree, shaft the government as much as i can with out getting into trouble.

  • slojam - 2011-04-05 13:52

    Typical of the powers that BBEEE! I am sure that the costs for building the new power station has been over exageratted as well in order to justify the huge electricity bills that we the public are burdened with. Dont be fooled people... Its only going to get worse in this country if things go the way they are now!

  • Wow! - 2011-04-05 13:53

    @Maki - I have a feeling taht Zille tax does a darned side more for the comminity than ANC tax does - that goes into some elite ANC's pocket. I live in Johannesburg AND we just get fleeced.

  • colinw - 2011-04-05 14:01

    Its all about making Gautrain appear cheaper to use !

      Le sage - 2011-04-05 14:29

      @colinw. Gautrain is yet another example of a contruction project gone wrong (cost wise). Fare currenlty being asked by a trip is simply ridiculous. I was in Guangzhou in January and paid equivalent of R3 in a similar transportation mode travelling from distance that would be more or less Jhb-pta. I know most factors not same between two these 2 countries but was shocked by the gap. No wonder SNARAL is following suit...

  • TG - 2011-04-05 14:10

    So we'll reduce the toll fees by 50% the masses will be overjoyed. Sure, we'll all be over the to pay for roads which where built by the taxes paid by us in any case. I'm getting tired of working my ass off to fund these govermental idiots as they spend without constraint nor concern, the coffers will always be full and if they start getting a bit low we'll tax 'em a bit more.

  • warickw - 2011-04-05 15:48

    Typicall

  • Mark - 2011-04-05 15:53

    WOW!!! Tell us more

  • Niknac - 2011-04-05 16:25

    Petrol is increasing again tonight. What a rip off.

  • cgtours - 2011-04-05 17:37

    An Investigation need to be lodged immediately into this by private Civil engineers - there is grossFRAUD involved here. Also where are the fuel Taxes going? DA why is there not outcry and Investigations launched into the fuel taxes and also WHY IS THIS COSTING SO MUCH when even in America it osts less- WHO got kickback and How much? Is this another branch of the Weapon Transaction just sprouting in every direction. Where are the opposition Parties? Investigate and high time NOW People in High Places MUST GO TO JAIL - No Travelgate deals anymore- the ordinary citizens go to court and jail for fraud - WHY NOT THE SCUM OF TRAVELGATE - FRAUDSTERS SITTING IN PARLIAMENT AND NOT EVEN ASHAMED - THEY SHOULD BE IN JIAL NOT ON A DEAL!! WITH ANC GOVERNMENT. jail- THEY WERE SKELM - fraud

  • Kenneth - 2011-04-06 09:57

    Please check out the following website - i accessed it from my Blackberry, so not to sure what link would be on PC: http://itweb.mobi/home/item_d-42349/ - it seems the consumer protection act is or might be a thorn in the side of SANRAL - i got this from @tweetmyattorney on twitter...

  • Hardtalk - 2011-04-06 10:39

    What fascinated me is how many people complain about toll costs but say nothing about the biggest rip off in South Africa – Motor manufactures and dealer prices. The price of a new car is very high in SA and it’s not tax it is manufactures and dealers. An example of the price difference here and abroad. Santa Fe R2.2 Diesel AT 5 Seater cost R400, 000 in SA. In the UK it is R230, 000. WHY??? Because people here allow the rip off. Ford Fiesta from R164, 000 SA In UK from R100, 000 Ford Focus from R200, 000 SA in UK from R160, 000 You can find dealers in the UK offering 3years 0% interest on a new car plus 3 years service at no cost. If people protested and demanded a fairer deal we would all save thousands of rands and this would mean selling more vehicles making more jobs and helping the economy, as well as bringing the second hand car prices down. The second hand prices in the UK would make any South African sick. Check out Auto trader UK web site and see for yourself. The prices here are going mad with electricity costing more than most other counties and food prices going sky-high with no stopping or control in sight.

  • mhaga.sabe - 2011-04-06 11:05

    All these toll gates must be pulled down, there is no need for so many toll gates in Gauteng unless it is a call for "people revolt" The toll costs alone are devastating, not to mention the consequential costs such transport cost, food prices etc!! The worst that we now know is that all of that money collected thru these tolls will leave the country, enriching only a few within SA!! This has nothing to do with the ANC, it has much to do with Government and the Private Sector who are signitories to these toll agreements. If the Government of the people is advocating the "peoples revolt" then so be it!!!

      Warlok - 2011-04-07 13:22

      And who are the "Government" Mhaga? The ANC is the government you chop!

  • Petrus - 2011-04-07 14:13

    im nt surprized men ,we always geting ripped off by the gorvenmnt either way& I SWEAR IF ANC were to smhw gona benefit frm ds crap,they would be backing it up

  • Cynical175 - 2011-07-20 18:43

    66 cents a kilometer?,are they nuts? On of the best toll roads in the world in Toronto Canada charges only 23 cents/km http://www.407etr.com/about/custserv_fees.asp

  • Cynical175 - 2011-07-20 18:44

    66 cents/km are they nuts? On of the best toll roads in the world in Toronto Canada charges only 23 cents/km http://www.407etr.com/about/custserv_fees.asp

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