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SA apologises for turning away Nigerians

2012-03-08 14:44

Pretoria - The government on Thursday apologised for blocking 125 Nigerians from entering South Africa and unveiled new immigration procedures aimed at ending a diplomatic row between the continent's two powerhouses.

The dispute blew up after immigration officials at Johannesburg's OR Tambo International Airport on Friday refused entry to Nigerians over suspicions that their yellow fever vaccination cards were fake.

Every day since, Nigeria has turned away dozens of South Africans in retaliation.

Bilateral relations


"We apologise for this unfortunate incident and we hope this matter will not in any way affect our bilateral relations," deputy foreign minister Ibrahim Ibrahim told reporters in Pretoria.

"We've put into place certain mechanisms to ensure this doesn't happen again, and we believe that this matter is closed," he added.

"We are in contact with the embassy in Nigeria, to see that there are no longer problems, and that any difficulties over vaccination certificates are dealt with before a visa is issued."

He did not expect an apology from Nigeria over its retaliatory actions, he said. "We understand the reaction of the Nigerian authorities."

The authorities have agreed to re-open an airport clinic that would allow travellers to receive yellow fever vaccines on arrival; and to require a foreign ministry official's consent before immigration authorities turn away large groups of travellers.

South Africa, the richest country on the continent, is struggling with its reputation for xenophobia - a perception that was reinforced after nationwide attacks on immigrants left 62 dead in 2008.

The government has moved quickly to mend this latest row.

Shock and regret


"Cabinet expressed shock and regret at the reports regarding how African foreign nationals, particularly Nigerians, and other nationals from other parts of the world have been treated" at Johannesburg's main airport, minister in the presidency Collins Chabane told reporters in Cape Town earlier Thursday.

On Tuesday Nigerian Foreign Minister Olugbenga Ashiru had accused the South African authorities of targeting Nigerians.

"What you see playing out is what we call xenophobia by South Africans against all Africans - not just Nigerians - including even those from their neighbouring countries," Ashiru added.

Friday's incident prompted Nigeria's Arik Air to suspend its flights to Johannesburg, though it has since resumed its service.

South Africa's ambassador also called the Nigerian foreign ministry over the issue.

Arik, one of two airlines affected, said health officials had given the reason as incorrect or unrecognised batch numbers on the documentation. Proof of vaccination is mandatory before one can enter the country.

Sales of fake vaccination cards are common at Nigerian borders.

Comments
  • jamesbond - 2012-03-08 14:49

    Are you serious. Why should we risk contamination!!by the way come and take the rest .

      Peter-Peter - 2012-03-08 15:07

      I saw this on the news last night...its such typical behavior. The people who have NOTHING to do with the above board infighting are the people who suffer. Now where have we seen this before? Greedy, corrupt officials and politicians in our own country doing whatever they can do benefit themselves, and to hell with the people their actions negatively affect (hence the poor - that vote them into power, having their essentials robbed of them). Its flipping childish to let ordinary citizens suffer because 'you did this to me, now Im going to do this to you'.. way to go Africa, show the world how world how evolved your brains are!

      Willie - 2012-03-08 16:15

      @ Emmanuel Aja Oga -NO we should screen every crook from your country

      Willie - 2012-03-08 16:21

      Ask the Ghanians about Nigerians they have been crooks asfar as 1950's

      Bryan - 2012-03-08 16:28

      Yeah.. Nigerians can stay where they belong!! We don't need their drug lords and criminality in S.A

      Ludwig - 2012-03-08 16:56

      Was their yellow fever vaccination cards fake or not????

      Anthony - 2012-03-08 17:36

      There are many South African companies investing millions in Africa. Reading these comments, it can't be good for their businesses !!! A country's strenght comes from its exports and foreign investments. It is totally amazing and ohh soo sad, that many South aAricans, don't give a damn about thir own country !!!!!!!

      oladiran.ajayi - 2012-03-08 18:11

      Nigeria also supported the Frontline States through the 1980s and by the end of apartheid in 1994, it had contributed an estimated US$61 billion towards the anti-apartheid effort.

      Refiloe Thelma Shikwambana - 2012-03-08 18:41

      is That currupt country Hiv free kwalng. that the best u gt we love Our Hiv Nation so why are u ppl cryng to come here. if u livng in paradise. eish bo khunta khete ba kapisa. nigerians

      Saun - 2012-03-08 19:24

      U morons, can't u see what this is playing at!

      Dirk - 2012-03-08 19:43

      It shows how ignorant the govt is. It says that an official from Foreign Affairs permission must first be required. SA immigration laws determine that the jurisdiction is that of the min. of Home Affairs, They made the exact same mistake with the Dalai Lama, but a donkey ---

      Jacob - 2012-03-09 02:01

      Majority of Nigerians in South Africa are ruB%ish....involved in scams, drugs etc Kick them out and while we at it clean up Hillbrow and remove them and send the back to their dump of a country!

      yolie.Landa - 2012-03-09 14:31

      Dont apologise. These scumbugers should not live in SA. THey must leave already, all of them

      Deus - 2012-03-09 15:30

      Why are we apologizing for this, we did nothing wrong? that's why I hate politics and politicians....its all a game of ass kissing and diplomacy...no principles, no sense of right and wrong!!

      Omrisho - 2012-03-09 15:34

      govt fence sitting again, grow some for crying out loud, so worried to offend others, but their own people get the finger time and again, pathetic really

      Jacob - 2012-03-11 11:32

      Nigerians are the scum of South Africa involved in drug dealing, Scams, 419, thieves etc Kick them out of SA and let them stay in their dump of a country!

  • Linda - 2012-03-08 14:51

    Good action, 125 criminals could have entered our country!!

      procold2 - 2012-03-08 15:13

      just what i say, should be sending the other 125 000 illeagals back with this 125

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-08 15:36

      @lexysaint, she might be a bitch it is okay, but please stay in your country and live us and our bitches in peace. we have had enough of Nigerians and drugs.

      jowza1 - 2012-03-08 15:36

      easy now lexi

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-08 15:48

      @ lexy people resort to using profanity and insults when they cannot make a good argument.

      Linda - 2012-03-08 16:03

      ok, not sure if I'm correctly labelled here, but my statement stays!!

      Bryan - 2012-03-08 16:31

      I'm with Linda on this!! Lexysaint...Go shag yourself!!!

      thozi - 2012-03-08 16:46

      @ Lexysaint & Greegs You do not have the right to insult our Linda. Linda we support your statement 100%!

      Sefele - 2012-03-08 17:38

      crime pays in south africa, police chief, everyone are benefiting moron. this crime is a risky business for nig, u might be caught up with ur Aids/HIV.

      ugochukwu.ubani - 2012-03-08 22:27

      @ucherharpers, enough said. These idiots think they are the best but can't pull a sensible string anywhere in Africa. Xenophobic bastards. Nigeria should dealt with them more

  • Gigo - 2012-03-08 14:57

    It was unnecessarily to apologize...

      Hallo - 2012-03-08 15:24

      Yea Nigeria, for you, all sign's at our ports of entry actually read - NOT WELCOME!

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-03-09 00:40

      How many SA virgins have you defiled, Ross? Women are not Cattle. Find a different analogy, Proudly African Male.

  • justin.pretorius - 2012-03-08 14:59

    Very cowardly. If they attempted to come in with false documents they must be dealt with

      Vivvian - 2012-03-08 15:26

      It is good you say if Justin? the South African immigration officials in Nigeria who issue visas are part of those at airport. How can the ones in the nigerian offices not pick this up before issueing the visa? This behaviou is typical of immigration officials at SA airports. One of them at the check-in counters last year when i was comming back from the US checked my passport and said, how can you have both work and study permit? my answer -because i work and study? then she replied every foreigner must only do one thing in South Africa- how dum she was- i got really irritated, luckily she returned my passport after she was cautioned by another immigration officer . Many of us Black Africans are adding value to this economy just like the white europeans- but it is always easy for the immigration officails to ask blacks where are you comming from- but whites whether they are from greece, england, australia etc- they become more african than us. Many of us are on our way back home. but if this Xenophobia aginst us does not stop. There will be no future for african unity.

      lexysaint - 2012-03-08 15:38

      SA govt knows they did it cos of they are so xenophobic not bcos of fake documentation, visa was issued by ur embassy. fool

      oladiran.ajayi - 2012-03-08 18:15

      My dear there is something wrong with a mass deportation of 125 people (including a Senator)at once. You should encourage the govt to improve on immigration tactics. Also please remember ..Nigeria contributed an estimated US$61 billion towards the anti-apartheid effort in SA asking for no financial return. In fact SA companies flood the Nigerian market and have indeed been welcome. The SA govt made the right move by apologizing

      Hugo - 2012-03-08 19:52

      Oladiran sources please

      oladiran.ajayi - 2012-03-08 20:28

      oops ... read it here http://www.saiia.org.za/sa-foreign-policy-african-drivers-opinion/giants-of-africa-limp-along-south-africa-and-nigeria.html

      Deus - 2012-03-09 15:43

      Nigerians are stupid, there is no point reasoning with them. Similar incidents have happened with Nigeria and other countries, we are not the first.

  • Poloyatonki - 2012-03-08 14:59

    hahahaha ahahaha hahahah its more like giving someone a nice hot clap and then apologizes...

  • Katlego - 2012-03-08 15:00

    Why is SA apologising? They had fake documents nothing new about Nigerians.

      Trust Muzanya - 2012-03-08 15:09

      the problem with South Africans is they think this so called democracy came without the help of other african nations.wy apologize if the papers were fake?this z xenophobic at its best!i wish all african countries treat SA the same!

      edwardsch - 2012-03-08 15:25

      @Trust. you are a moron. Time for you to get your head out of your backside and start thinking for yourself!!!!

      DanitoGP - 2012-03-08 15:26

      Trust, I trust you are Zimbabwean: RSA cannot remain indebted indefinitely. We should not sit and watch while the whole of Africa comes and strain the already overstretched social system. Most of these foreigners have nothing to offer RSA and consequently becomes a burden on her. I agree with you Katlego, why are they apologising???

      lindz.kok - 2012-03-08 15:27

      ya trust i trust that soon you will leave this country and go back to zim or the drc or where ever the hell you came from. we dont need foreighners insulting us.

      Aijaman - 2012-03-08 15:31

      Muzanya stop smoking Dagga

      Hallo - 2012-03-08 15:32

      @Trust - without us you would have no investment. without you we would have more jobs.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-08 15:33

      @ Trust, I trust you are aware that the problems in Zim should be your main concern instead of ours right?

      Thokozane - 2012-03-08 15:36

      @Trust, democracy came with the help of other African countries, I agree, but it does'nt mean that if I help you build a house, then I'm entitled to the same rights as the owner. Xenophobia my foot, each country has its own rules and law, and visitors, regardless of who they are, need to abide by them.

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-08 15:38

      @Trust we must start by sending you back to Zimbabwe.

      phathuchicos - 2012-03-08 15:56

      @trust no wonder your parents named you trust...

      Willie - 2012-03-08 16:25

      @ Trust Muzanya--you guys are abusing our hospitalty and you hide behind "you help us" during dark days of apartheid. This is now fake documents NO entry

      Bryan - 2012-03-08 16:34

      Trust me.... you are a dumba$$... go back to where you came from!!

      Hugo - 2012-03-08 19:55

      Ross you are retarded

      Ataka - 2012-03-09 15:40

      My dear, from the comments u guys are posting in here, i dont think u guys are matured enough to know why SA apologised. Besides Nigeria is yellow fever free since 1995. They are probably shielding their ego inflated and naive citizens of heartbreak.U look at your skyrise buildings and u think u run Africa? Nigeria sent your government a message which they understood loud and clear. No disrespect to your tiny neighbours but Nigeria is not one of them. Your police should deal with criminality ravaging the land just like every country does. If your government has diplomatic issues with Nigeria, they should handle it better than this. With all our flaws as a people, we travel and live all over the world because we are courageous and bold enough to migrate to any part of the world and find our feet there. People migrate! Likewise Nigerians. We come with the good, the bad and the ugly. Just like every other people. Get over yourselves and deal with it!!

      Tugwana - 2012-03-11 04:04

      @Ataka, it's good that u realising that. U one of the few among your nationals who see that.

  • jurgen.eksteen - 2012-03-08 15:02

    WHY?!! They were caught out with fraudulent vaccination documents (criminal act) and you apologies for doing the right thing. Mr Nigeria, unlike your country we in South Africa still try to fight crime. This country is due for a NEW rampant disease to ravage the poor ... spoken by government spinelessness.

      Lailai - 2012-03-08 16:47

      pls define 'we'...that's fighting crime...ur SA is built by foreigners...so pls dnt start..SA without foreigners wuld be *&%$

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-08 15:03

    It would be blessing if SAA is banned frm Nigeria Look imagine Suid Africa without nigerians.

      jowza1 - 2012-03-08 15:37

      what anice thought

      edwardsch - 2012-03-08 15:41

      Paradise !!!!

      ucheharpers - 2012-03-08 22:06

      SAA would simply go bankrupt, why do u think ur govt apologised, u think they are in love with we nigerians. its becos we hold your economic future and your govt would keep kissing our a*s*s until we tell them to stop.how many SA do you think were deported, over 132, we were about entering the next phase b4 ur govt cowardly apologised. u guys think too high of your self, better wake up to reality...

  • Dave Prinsloo - 2012-03-08 15:03

    collins understands the nigerian reaction, because he is also a child, who would also react so childishly if his yellow-fever infested people were turned away in Nigeria, the crime factory of africa. Smells like a 419 scam to me

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-08 15:09

      Yeah really childish reaction,and those are the people running the country? it explains a lot.The Ashiru guy actually saw nothing wrong with having fraudulent papers.

      phathuchicos - 2012-03-08 15:58

      Oga...then Nigerians should turn back Hillbrow and Sunnyside from slum it is now back to the decent neighbourhood it was. Nigerians always want to be bossy wherever they show u...even in China can you believe it?

      Sefele - 2012-03-08 18:47

      Dave, u moron, there are still 4 outstanding condition ur govt. is yet to meet apart from the apology. U better be fast with that or we send down our missles to ur country. Don't tempt a super power country.

      celeste.rsa - 2012-03-09 08:35

      @sefele Super power country??? I'm about to die laughing! The only thing your countrymen are super at is criminality, moron!

      Deus - 2012-03-09 15:48

      read up about it. this is not the first time nigeria has reacted childishly to incidents involving nigerians in a foreign country.

  • looneylani - 2012-03-08 15:03

    O_o huh?

  • Brenda Mkhalane - 2012-03-08 15:04

    Thats a good start cuz no one deceive to be treated lyk that... We are all humans and not all of us r angels...Nt all South Africans are angels

      Bomb - 2012-03-08 15:15

      ...but all Nigerians are criminals...LOL.

      edwardsch - 2012-03-08 15:27

      Another moron. Are you going to be that happy if Yellow Fever was IMPORTED along with their drugs etc??????

      Katlego - 2012-03-08 15:28

      If they have fake documents send them back home We do not want them here that will be calling for more trouble

      jowza1 - 2012-03-08 15:39

      speak for yourself brenda.btw if you have a comment to make dont use your text language in a forum

  • Sihle - 2012-03-08 15:04

    There's no need to be apologetice since they already retaliated...

      Boer - 2012-03-09 00:43

      I view nigerians in the same way I view insects, you need them. Perhaps 'honest' (if any) nigerians should try and do something to uplift the image of their country. Goodluck uncle Jonathan.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-09 07:11

      @ Ross so tell me then within these 300 companies from SA operating there,who do they employ there? So who would be unemployed then if you guys kicked thenm out? Isincerely doubt that your government has htese companies operating there out of the kindness of their heart you people benefit far more than the companies do,so please try and think about the nonsense that eminates from your mouth. It would be a loose loose situation,if not then you would have kicked them out long ago

  • Mr.Fibre - 2012-03-08 15:05

    hahahaha! Apology accepted. lool

      Angela - 2012-03-08 15:26

      Thus the ANC government !!! A government that fought for freedom .They also remember who helped them fight white supremacy . Nigeria was together with Zambia and Tanzania . This was even addressed in the 100 years anniversary of the ANC .

      JJ - 2012-03-08 18:25

      Voetsek!! I can't possibly argue with this idiot, dumbing myself down.

  • Gibbaan Erasmus - 2012-03-08 15:05

    Why did those fools apologize? Do the Nigerians think they can just enter S.A. without the proper documentation?

      emma.oga - 2012-03-08 15:44

      The joke is on you. "Improper documentation"? Are you saying your high commission in Lagos issued fake visas to Nigerians? LOL. What self-indictment!

      schalkjburger - 2012-03-08 16:07

      @ Emmaneul Aja Oga: A Visa is only legal if the VISA conditions are adhered to. One of those is having a valid (and legal!) Yellow Fever injection card as proof of the injection. Even us South Africans have to have them when returning from certain countries. YOUR compatriots did not keep by those VISA rules (breaking rules is something even the international media knows Nirerians are quite good at). It as nothing to do with the VISA's the SA Embassy in Lagos issued. It as 100% to do with your people breaking the law...not to MENTION putting the genera population at risk of a serious disease So, wake up ...idiot!

      emma.oga - 2012-03-08 16:41

      schalkjburger, Your high commission requires the YF certificate before issuing visas. Go and do your research.

      Sefele - 2012-03-08 18:33

      oh yes, we are super power nation. You are lucky your country apologies to me, i would have send my missles to u morons.

      Boer - 2012-03-09 00:46

      A spear is not a missile. SA and Nigeria are fighting for the crown. King of the dungheap called Africa.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-09 07:13

      @ Sefele where were your missles when Boko Haram was slaughtering people?

      Hugo - 2012-03-09 11:10

      Sefele super power in fraud and corruption no doubt,hell even wealthy americans have fallen prey to you guys.

      Saun - 2012-03-09 16:27

      @Boer, Huge & co. the fact is, a weaker nation begs and apologies to stronger nations, with all our crime to u, we've never apologied to you one day, but rather veto every of ur move in the continent. that is why ur moron president's wife lost the AU chairperson, bs nig veto her position. ur fantancy land is only deceiving u, get out of that pound, u little fish.

  • Lehlohonolo - 2012-03-08 15:05

    South african Gov is a Jelly fish with no spine

      Heiku - 2012-03-08 15:14

      Criminals dont like to bring attention to themselves.

  • john.bainbridge2 - 2012-03-08 15:10

    SA Gov need to grow a pair... My word, how stupid and sad is this...

  • Dannys - 2012-03-08 15:11

    "The authorities have agreed to re-open an airport clinic that would allow travellers to receive yellow fever vaccines on arrival" - is this paid for by SA?

      Michele - 2012-03-08 15:24

      Well, you can bet the Nigians don't have to pay for the vaccinations when they get here - clearly us 4 million taxpayers have to.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-08 15:34

      @ danny yes, we paying.

      edwardsch - 2012-03-08 15:53

      @ Greegs. You also need to get your head out and start smelling roses. If you think that they will pay, you have to be joking. Oh I get it, sarcasm!!!!

      Linda - 2012-03-08 16:07

      Obvious!!

      ucheharpers - 2012-03-08 22:15

      that is chicken change compared to the money ur companies make in nigeria, why do u think SA companies rush to nigeria and ur govt is apologising... my God u guys still dont know who controls ur bread and butter...Jesus!!!

      Boer - 2012-03-09 00:48

      Perhaps because the nigerians are to stupid to create their own?

  • Sipho - 2012-03-08 15:11

    Spineless idiots opening flood gates for Nigerian criminals.

      Kai - 2012-03-09 17:25

      @Ross, Zuma only came crawling on all fours because he hasn't learnt to walk upright yet.

  • Andre - 2012-03-08 15:13

    Apologise for what? They are responsible for most of our crime and train locals to partake.

  • Bomb - 2012-03-08 15:13

    Fckng asscrawling government. Nigeria is CRIME CENTRAL on the African continent, they should be banned in principle on entering on any terms. Nigeria, Zim (and Limpopo) should be cut from the continent and set adrift in the Artic Sea.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-08 15:38

      @ Bomb. LMAO

      lexysaint - 2012-03-08 15:49

      u are a fool...limpopo is part of SA...u will soon get hurt

      Linda - 2012-03-08 16:07

      Why LIMPOPO?

      Jan - 2012-03-08 16:49

      Limpopo is part of SA. Zimbabwe and nigeria must be driven away.

      ucheharpers - 2012-03-08 22:19

      i thought limpopo was part of south africa, and he got a few likes from this country men...u see why we control this SA from abuja and lagos. they dont know their left from their right. u better fulfill the remaining 4 conditions the nigerian govt gave u guys before we unleash another set of sanctions... scallwags

      Alexander - 2012-03-08 22:36

      Bomb, you should try and educate yourself cos i believe you are a mental person that doesn't have any life.

      Steve - 2012-03-09 01:42

      SA is run by intellectual midgets, without the infrastructure and sound economy that the boers and the brits built for you are nothing. Boers are still subsidising your hiv ravaged broke arse. Say Danki to Baas.

  • Elle-Black - 2012-03-08 15:14

    Soo instead of taking this up with the relevant departments like an adult would Ashiru decided to act like a six year old and retaliate by sending back SA citizens for no apparent reason? Well boo f...kn HOO!!! Grow up.

      Obafemi Harrison - 2012-03-08 16:17

      Oh please get over yourself Elle, just as it was required of your authorities to deport based on ''suspicion'' it is required of Nigeria to deport based on actual show of stupidity and inferior intellect. Bitches-they deport with such xenophobic fervour and come back tail-betweenapthey-legs begging for forgiveness. Look we are not Zimbabweans o, we will treat your f**k up instantly.

      Bomb - 2012-03-08 17:15

      you obviously dont get the sarcasm......must be from limpopo then

      Bomb - 2012-03-08 17:16

      Harrison.......you have European surname......rather shut up.

      balimi1 - 2012-03-08 18:51

      @Elle,shut up and learn from your leaders, we have nothing to lose. Your country is the one to surfer the pain get that to your head. We are Nigerians Not Zimbabwe. We already sent 132 South Africans back just in how many days. Your So called MTN should have being close down and other company then we see how you

      balimi1 - 2012-03-08 18:53

      Elle, You black or white? cuz if you black am sure you have no money to buy air tickets to fly around the world. If you are White then your company would be the one sending you or paying for your trip abroad. You need to travel around the world and learn about others.

      jsoile - 2012-03-08 19:36

      @ Elle,I really would love to watch my cane corsos eat you alive. Do you know more than your leaders you retard! They know ignorants like you will go hunger stricken or flood the streets with placards when your economy gets affected. Nigeria is your BIG brother buoyant economy or not,in this black continent NIGERIA comes first...the REAL whites of this world know better.

      Alexander - 2012-03-08 23:00

      You should go head and inform your unorganized home affairs on what to do, this is becoming too much is high time we need to put things in order, if you want the foreigners back home, you must first call back all SA citizen abroad back home, stupid idiots..

      Ross - 2012-03-09 00:17

      No, YOU fcktards grow up. Learn not to mess with Nigeria or you'll end up having to apologise again.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-09 07:20

      @ Balimi you know nothing about my finances and what I can afford,once I finish my degree i will affrod to employ you legitimately so that you no longer have to sell that stuff okay? @Jsoile stop acting like the companies that operate ther are being done a favour,you know that your country gains more from those companies that the other way around,I have never met one of you that would do something for someone without something much bigger in return. It;s called investment,MTN,DSTV and all the others you mentioned are INVESTING in your country,get it right.

      Hugo - 2012-03-09 11:21

      yes you guys are not zimbabweans you are nigerians!how is home. @Balimi,wow you seem to know South Africans more than they know themselves hey.If you are so rich and smart,why are you here?

  • Hendrik - 2012-03-08 15:18

    No, we are not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Trevor - 2012-03-08 15:18

    I wonder how much the Nigerians sponser the ANC coffers....cause this can be the only explination why we,South Africa, would role over and play Bitch to a Rotten to the core Country called NIGERIA...who is KNOWN WORLD WIDE to be the crime center of Africa.

      Lailai - 2012-03-08 16:55

      get it clear...with the money ur companies make in naija...ur anc feeds the poor south africans....so u have to kiss our ass & apologize...hate it or luv it

      Refiloe Thelma Shikwambana - 2012-03-08 18:30

      u nigerians by the way u cmmnting u are all high! lol Mandela cn die today we wnt cm bggng to that christian killng country.

      Ross - 2012-03-09 00:20

      Rotten to the core? Says a man from the rape capital of the world. The robbery capital of the world, and the AIDS capital of the world. You have a lot of nerve. Dumb Soweto goat.

      Boer - 2012-03-09 00:58

      Ross: seems that you are in love with goats. Doing goats are you?

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-09 07:21

      @ Boer LOL,it would seem so,notice how he mentions them in every sentence,I think he has a fetish.

      Kai - 2012-03-09 17:30

      How does Ross find goats in the bush? Irresistible

  • hiebner - 2012-03-08 15:20

    Apart from the Nigerian crime aspect, how many more "refugees" can South Africa accommodate? Already Eskom are battling with demand, our health sector is groaning under all the numbers, our education is strained, and housing is a major problem. If our borders remain porous wewill never resolve all these social issues.

      PastorPromise C Ozuzu - 2012-03-08 15:25

      @hiebner , i want to ask you,do you think everyone coming into SA is coming to live here?

      edwardsch - 2012-03-08 15:37

      @ Pastor, we bloody well hope not!!! They can keep their 419 scams and drugs out of this country and it would be a lot better if they stayed out as well.....

      balimi1 - 2012-03-08 18:55

      But the Nigerian are paying their bills in any part of South africa they re in.

      balimi1 - 2012-03-08 21:54

      @Craig, Right now am in PTA,Before we came to this Country their is crime, You killing each other. Hating each other and so on so we Nigerian are not surprise. We re talking about Travel matters you bunch of fools are talking about scam, drugs, prostitution, You South African really needs to wise up and look for better way of liking each other. I see the Reason why the Afrikaans and Treat and kill you all before my Great Country came in to help out. Your Govt knows whats is at stake before they apologies. Ibrahim Ibrahim says He did not expect an apology from Nigeria over its retaliatory actions, he said. “We understand the reaction of the Nigerian authorities. Do you understand far batter than him? And Ashiru said he had accepted the apology, saying a South African envoy was expected soon to formally apologies for the row. So you should stop your Govment not to go to Nigeria to apologies formally. Nigerian Gave them 5 Condition and they will pay the dues. We re not ZIMBABWE OR OTHER SOUTHERN AFRICAN. WE LEAD YOUR COUNTRY FELLOW. EXAMPLE WE KICK OUT YOUR ZUMA CUZ HE WANT AN HALF EDUCATED WOMAN IN AU AS CHAIRPERSON THAT'S CRAZY TO DIRECT HEADS OF STATES.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-09 07:24

      @ Balimi dude invest in an Oxford dictionary.

      Hugo - 2012-03-09 11:26

      Balimi Nkosazana Zuma is a medical doctor.no, not the nigerian type ,a real doctor who went to medical school.Now that you are here,how about you pay a visit to CNA and get an english dictionary.You can use your fake currency(as usual)

  • Juanita - 2012-03-08 15:21

    @Bomb... WTF Dude... I'm from Limpopo... And these people you want to get rid off in Limpopo with all the fraud and .... (F) up our lives as well... As for the Nigerians why the hell is SA apologizing, Why don't you just let them in to kill, rape, and rob the people of SA??? Some People must grow some brains, because they apparently don't have brains...

      Bomb - 2012-03-08 17:19

      Obafemi Harrison.....that name just crack me up dude....Obafemi Harrison, haaahahaha,....sounds like a low budget bestality porn actor,...HHHAAAAAahahahaha!!!

      Ross - 2012-03-09 00:24

      Nigerians do not kill, rob and rape. You must be mistaking them for South Africans. All we do (at least some of us) is use our brains to fuuck you up since for the most part, you guys are pretty dense.

      Hugo - 2012-03-09 11:29

      Ross boko haram?

  • Angela - 2012-03-08 15:21

    That is why I love the ANC. NIGERIANS FOUGHT APARTHEID and it was going to be wrong to get into a petty fight .(It was a must for all Nigerians going to school to contribute towards the fight against apartheid). As for ther drugs , whyu do you guys go and buy those things and provide a market for them ?

      schalkjburger - 2012-03-08 16:13

      So you are saying that if you support the ANC, you support Nigeria. Corrupt and criminal supporting the corrupt and criminal...yup...yor logic sounds about right.

      Saun - 2012-03-08 20:23

      Craig, for ur information, thampo M. the former presid. was housed in nigeria in the 70's and 80's. Nig. former presid Obj paid for his law school fees in lagos during '76 to '80. and Mandela paid back well by not recognizing the military regim that lead to Nigeria bycotting 1996 nations cup in SA. Nigeria was a strong supporter of Sadeco during the struggle that liberated many southern africa country, including bostwana, nambia etc.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-09 07:27

      @ Craig eish thank you dude,i'm also sick of hearing it.Angola also really aided SA in the days of apartheid but they dont feel a sense of entitlement.

  • Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-08 15:22

    yet again our government fails 2 stand their ground, next time u should address the nigerian people as master u fool!

      Obafemi Harrison - 2012-03-08 15:49

      Hahaha, not next time sucker like right now. Now you know what time it is. I feel embarassed for all those Nigerian criminals in your country but claiming that we are all criminals come on. You know that those yellow cards' claims are bogus so stop with the bullcrap already.If the SA authorities want to deport anybody let them stop taking bribes from Nigerian drug dealers and pimps IN SA and not law abiding citizens with proper documents on some bogus claim. Damn!

      emma.oga - 2012-03-08 15:53

      Master to Nigeria? What a deluded twot!

      Ross - 2012-03-09 00:26

      Hahahaha!! What master indulges in a grovelling apology to his servant? What a deluded dimwit. The problem is your leaders never told you how dependent you were on Nigeria. NOW YOU KNOW.

      Hugo - 2012-03-09 11:33

      Ross elaborate on this dependance.

  • edwardsch - 2012-03-08 15:23

    Way to go Cabinet!!!! Once again you are touching your collective toes so that your 'buddies' can have their way with you. If their papers were not in order, especially their Yellow fever info, we DO NOT want them here. Time for you guys to grow a pair and stop being bullied !!!!!

  • Carlton Bana - 2012-03-08 15:27

    Why is the SA goverment appologising, for doing something right for the first time. SA does not have a foreign policy thats why every Tendai, Osabanjo and Ahmed are squatting in SA. We must march for tougher immigration laws and a tougher foreign policies, enough with quiet deplomacy. Always pleasing foreigners but never SAns.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-08 15:40

      @ Carla "thats why every Tendai, Osabanjo and Ahmed are squatting in SA" LMAO for days,that part finished me.

      kolawole.aderinwale - 2012-03-08 15:49

      Your government apologised because they are more informed and smarter than most of you. They know what's at stake. MTN, Multichoice, Shoprite, Protea, Standard Bank etc

      Gedoemde - 2012-03-08 15:59

      Don't play with the Super Eagle, they just get you were they wanted you. Africa is for the Africans including whites or Afrikaners. Very good lesson for SA. Don't throw stones if you are living in a glass house.

      schalkjburger - 2012-03-08 16:17

      @kolawole.aderinwae: there you go. you are just fuelin your own cremation. So you are saying that legal South African businesses IN NIGERIA must get threatened because SA dares stand up against NIGERIAN false documentation (ie CORRUPTION) IN SA. Again...sounds like the corrupt logic that it is.

      balimi1 - 2012-03-08 22:03

      South Africa promised new procedures to avoid a repeat of the "regrettable incident. Now they regret their action came begging. Well am not surprise cuz most people working in the Immigration are half educated.

      balimi1 - 2012-03-08 22:05

      @schalkjburger their is no legal business SA WORKERS IN NIGERIAN THEY CAME IN AS VISITORS AND LATER WORKING IN THE COMPANY WITHOUT GETTING THE RIGHT PERMIT FOR THEM TO BE A BUSINESS MAN DIG THAT. NIGERIAN GOVT OVER LOOK THINGS BUT RIGHT NOW THEY RE AFTER THEM.

      Hugo - 2012-03-09 11:35

      Bulima so MTN isn't legal?

  • Sean - 2012-03-08 15:27

    We denied them access??OMG!!!What happened?Have we reached saturation limits on drug dealers and scam artists already???

  • Aijaman - 2012-03-08 15:27

    Into endigqibayo apha..Everytime news24 report on this story, either positive or negative. Their last line is "Sales of fake vaccination cards are common at Nigerian borders"hehehehehehe caba bathi bayanya aba..krikrikrikri

      Mbulelo - 2012-03-09 14:41

      It is a pity that one reads such belittling and negative comments by Africans against Africans, irrespective of which side it comes from. In this day and age we shoudl be sharing good news experiences about how to develop each other and each other's countries, not pulling each other down with nasty comments. Beautiful Africans, are you aware that by continuing with these regressive exchanges, you are building hatred and resentment among each other? Movement of people across borders is an inevitable part of human development and progress. What we should be focussing on rather, is how to harness and sharpen the positive aspects of our human experiences and intearctions. The enemy is not your fellow African. The enemies are the MNCs,IMF, WB, WTO, etc that have resulted in the arrested or under development of Africa and by implication our countries. As youth, those are the kind of topical issues we should be grappling with. Don't invest your intellectual capital in small matters.

  • Bertus Pretorius - 2012-03-08 15:31

    Sooo, we are sorry for just protecting our security and health risks? Why not then create an airline flying in all those happy Nigerians without any hassle over nitty gritty stuff like passports, yellow fever certificates? FFS

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2012-03-08 15:33

    Seriously?? You try and enter a country that requires certain vaccinations without the relevant docs and see how far you get!!! They won't let you pass border control! Grow up South Africa, we don't need anymore Nigerians - in fact send them all home

      emma.oga - 2012-03-08 15:56

      Your upstart country, saw these yellow fever certificates before issuing visas. SO what then changed? I had same issues in Accra, I was vaccinated and let in. Why must this be different? You guys have a young nation, so it's understandable when you fail at simple things like diplomacy.

  • Faizie - 2012-03-08 15:33

    124.5 were drug dealers.

      charmaine.rowlands - 2012-03-08 15:36

      LMAO

      edwardsch - 2012-03-08 15:39

      OK THEN THE .5 CAN COME BACK.....

      Juanita - 2012-03-08 15:40

      Hahahahaha Good One

      Linda - 2012-03-08 16:10

      All of them! look at what they doing to our cities, durban point road, jhb hilbrow. Guys I support the person who came up with the idea of sending them back. Should also come to our city and his service is needed urgently!

      Sefele - 2012-03-08 17:54

      just send 87 SA morons back to Jhbg. got HIV.

  • Thokozane - 2012-03-08 15:37

    If proof of vaccination is mandatory before one can enter into a country, then why are we apologizing for doing the right thing? I'm disappointed. I have a feeling other African nations will start playing the xenophobia card to push their own agendas. I guess if I help you build a house then I'm entitled to the same space as the owner.

      Ross - 2012-03-09 00:41

      But no one forced your govt to apologise. Perhaps they know something you don't.

  • kolawole.aderinwale - 2012-03-08 15:42

    Did the news say "two powerhouses"? No. There is only one powerhouse in Africa- Nigeria! The fact just played out.

      Carlton Bana - 2012-03-08 15:44

      Then go home! And be a giant there. Besides we have interrests there.

      edwardsch - 2012-03-08 15:49

      OUT, OUT BASTARD GET OUT, as Julius Malema would say....

      Carlton Bana - 2012-03-08 15:54

      Nigerians brought here, go home boko haram is waiting

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-08 16:01

      if nigeria is a power house of africa then i am suprised,83percent household withod electricity no infrastructure,nigerians are dispersd all over the world arrestd evryday for drugs and fruad.

      Linda - 2012-03-08 16:13

      Wishful!! hardly have proper identification system in place,

      SpHa S-Jay Jay-Kay - 2012-03-08 16:24

      Ask ur superpower leaders to organise a gigantic boeing to come fetch ur gigantic cousins then! Enjoy ur superpower status in ur country..

      kolawole.aderinwale - 2012-03-08 17:11

      We kicked you out and you apologised so quickly. Stop crying fowl. For your information, I don't intend to step into that AIDS territory. I am writing from the country that contains the largest concentration of black people in the World.

      Bomb - 2012-03-08 17:26

      jip, the state of your country's infrastructure and economy clearly shows that......why do so many nigerians go to other countries and so few people go to nigeria???

      Sefele - 2012-03-08 17:58

      Kola, leave this morons and see if they will not come begging after mandela death.

      Refiloe Thelma Shikwambana - 2012-03-08 18:15

      Aids Aids. i bt u corrupt ppl dnt even knw the number of ppl infectd. ya vele we are a Aids Nation so y the hell are u cryng for.and y the hll are u bro and sis stl cmng here. i wnt seat foot in that corrupt, christian killng country even if u paid me a billion dolla.

      Candice - 2012-03-09 12:33

      says he sitting from a comfortable office in sandton most probably! Argh grow up down and go live in ur babboon land

      adejimijohnson - 2012-03-09 19:15

      @craig,you are too undereducated to post on this blog..saying " In fact, SA's GDP is twice that of all countries in Africa" is that what your SA schooltaught you?? Little education for you... africas GDP in $billion for 2010. 1.SA:357.259 2.Egypt:218.466 3.Nigeria:216.803 full details at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

  • Andrew - 2012-03-08 15:43

    POWER HOUSES OF AFRICA, my foot. Why all of a sudden problems regarding the Nigerians and free passports ? There are more Nigerians in Cape Town than in Nigeria. Passports for fuel I think !Viva South Africa Government Viva !

  • yisaakin - 2012-03-08 15:43

    many south africans are doing drug b4 Nigerians came to south africa,many other nations are caught doing evil things in south africa,how many nigerians are caught killing rhino,killing people,telling black south africans to kill white guys,if you guy needs to know more about drug masters in SA,go to hawks,they will tell you guys better.

      Vivvian - 2012-03-08 16:14

      Well said. Nigerians only retail drugs after their white south african and european accomplices give them. 99% of drug bosses are whites. they even bribed the former police commissioner.

  • Mark - 2012-03-08 15:44

    I've never heard the government apologize to me for for allowing criminals to run riot, for appointing people with no ability to key position and for the fact that the education my children have received is inadequate. But then guess that's because I don't have a bilateral agreement with them, more a payer-payee agreement.

      Sefele - 2012-03-08 18:29

      who are u? moron

  • Hermann - 2012-03-08 15:45

    All commentators you are now now missing the point - the government, if we can call them that, is now bent on selling our health out to all for the sake of African unity. Bottom line is what about the illegals coming here? What a farce we are living in.

      Sefele - 2012-03-08 18:29

      U got it wrong Hermann, ur police chief and heads are now corrupt. U better start thinking of leaving SA to ur forefather land moron.

      Saun - 2012-03-08 20:48

      @Craig, I don't think HermannH trust you on that, why the black empowerment and taking away our white jobs.

      Hugo - 2012-03-09 11:40

      Saun who took your Job?

  • Biz - 2012-03-08 15:46

    About time they apologized. How can they love and respect others, when they blatantly show so much hatred and disgust for each other. Nigerians may not be angels, but they are far more accommodating and real than you bloody SA citizens. As a southern African myself, its cool to see your asses being kicked. Morons!!!

      charmaine.rowlands - 2012-03-08 15:57

      perhaps it's time to reevaluate your living arrangements. Go home!!

      SpHa S-Jay Jay-Kay - 2012-03-08 16:19

      Go home now!! Nd dnt look back!!

  • Mzwandile - 2012-03-08 15:48

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/07/nicolas-sarkozy-too-many-foreigners?INTCMP=SRCH This will make interesting reading and it made me rethink my position on all immigrants on our country. Thinking long term we will confronted with what France today is facing, "Too many foreigners in France". SA need to relook its immigration policy and start to put SA first. Imagine if France implement these mmeasures to reduce the number of foreigners by half these people will look for a next destination that has resources and easy access. In 30 years time SA won't cope in terms of resources that have to provided to the poor. We need to be realistic about this matter. I don't think its a matter of xenophobia.

  • emma.oga - 2012-03-08 15:59

    Your upstart country, saw these yellow fever certificates before issuing visas. SO what then changed? I had same issues in Accra, I was vaccinated and let in. Why must this be different? You guys have a young nation, so it's understandable when you fail at simple things like diplomacy.

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-08 16:04

      go back to your country man.

      emma.oga - 2012-03-08 16:11

      What! are you kidding? I'm in my country. You would need to pay me set foot in your upstart country. Don't be fooled by the low-lives from Nigeria who flood your country. What you never know is, it is those who have failed to excel in Nigeria that run to your country. Nigeria has been good to me. I'm going nowhere.

      charmaine.rowlands - 2012-03-08 16:16

      i'm confused LOL... do you live in South Africa or Nigeria? Can't quite get a handle on your comments. If you live in SA, we invite you to go back to your beloved Nigeria, if you live in Nigeria, we invite you to STAY there

      emma.oga - 2012-03-08 16:43

      I'm a Nigerian living in Nigeria. If that helps you.

      charmaine.rowlands - 2012-03-08 17:08

      Oh it does, thank you so much for enlightening me. Please stay there

      Bomb - 2012-03-08 17:30

      Emmanuel....that must kill you everyday. im sure the only reason you are actually still in nigeria is that you cant manage to collect enough money at the intersection everyday.

      SpHa S-Jay Jay-Kay - 2012-03-08 18:23

      Travel the world with one salary?? I thort doctors were realistic... My fantasy is tht all the pips of nigeria were like you so tht they can remain thr!!!

      ucheharpers - 2012-03-08 22:36

      this south africans think we are writing this comments from their own dirty country...we are all typing from our beds, cars , offices in Nigeria, london and all over the world. we just want to read your silly views...scallwags

      Ross - 2012-03-09 00:52

      Emmanuel, why are you bothering with these unexposed fools who think the world revolves around their tiny country? They actually think we are posting from their country! How small minded can one be?

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-09 08:05

      @ Emmanuel yhat's the point exactly why are they going to USA or anywhere else,stay home what dont you get about that?You know the Americans dont want you,STAY HOME!!!!!!!!!

      Johan - 2012-03-09 12:50

      Elle, no one wants them. They are even less tolerated in the UK and the USA than here. They should be thankful that we turned a blind eye to their mass immigration to little Lagos (Hillbrow) and the rest of our country. Now we all take a stand and say no more! They must go back to their own country, unless they have proper and permanent employment.

  • thozi - 2012-03-08 16:04

    What diplomtic row? You did a splendid job by blocking the entrance of those Drug Addi... sorry, Nigerians. To complete the good work, kick out the rest of them, whether they have false marriage certificates or not.

      Obafemi Harrison - 2012-03-08 16:29

      Nigerians? Drug addicts? Good lawd, you SAns aree truly high on your own brand of ignorance. Check global statistics(if you are capable of comprehension of course) and see who's on top of the drug addicts list certainly not Nigerians. No wonder you got so much beef for us, we are much smarter than you in ANY field. You buy, we sell, chikena!

      Akasman Ak - 2012-03-08 17:08

      U south african are childish!imagine u callin 9gerians drug addicts,hw can u judge 160 million pple becos u of sme u knw! ...just shows how u guys are myopic

      Thozi - 2012-03-08 20:36

      @Obafeni & the myopic Sorry, you're right. Not drug addicts, drug peddlars - and by the way, if you're one of them peddlars, I hate you. And if you feed our sisters drugs then use them as prostitutes for your financial gain, I still hate you. But if you're one of the extremely few & rare good and honest Nigerians, welcome to our country - brother.

      Ross - 2012-03-09 00:54

      Actually you South Africans are the addicts. Some of our lowlifes just go to your country to take advantage of your foolishness, by supplying you the stuff. LOL

      Obafemi Harrison - 2012-03-10 03:50

      @Thozi man, truly I'm on the side of justice and equity at all times. I'm not going to ever side with criminals especially the kind as dangerous and despicable as druggers. Truth remains however, that that Immigration action by your airport authorities was in bad taste. I maintain that the authorities in SA should fish out the Nigerian criminals in SA and lock them up for as long as they please. We here of Nigerian being killed in China FOR DRUG PEDDLING and I assure they won't be missed.

      Obafemi Harrison - 2012-03-10 03:50

      @Thozi man, truly I'm on the side of justice and equity at all times. I'm not going to ever side with criminals especially the kind as dangerous and despicable as druggers. Truth remains however, that that Immigration action by your airport authorities was in bad taste. I maintain that the authorities in SA should fish out the Nigerian criminals in SA and lock them up for as long as they please. We here of Nigerian being killed in China FOR DRUG PEDDLING and I assure they won't be missed.

  • Falcovrod - 2012-03-08 16:05

    This is so interesting. I travel alot from SA to Nigeria and back for business and strangly enough this is the second scenario of this kind. During the football world cup, a lot of nigerian people were sent back due to fraudulant documentation. The next moment, instead of waiting ten days to get our visas from the Nigerian Embassy, it become 3 months, and the price went up from R700 to R3500. So the Nigerian Embassy is ripping us SA people off and now we have to apologize. This is crazy. O YEAH, AND IF YOU PAY A THOUSAND RAND EXTRA TO A CERTAIN LADY AT THE EMBASSY, YOU CAN GET YOUR VIS IN 4 DAYS...WOW NE!!!

  • olunloyo - 2012-03-08 16:06

    Why not get your facts before commenting on issues? Majority of you commenting behave more like kids and highly unschooled. You have demonstrated gross ignorance at its peak! I will not want to be dragged into your name calling childs' play here but the fact remains that this is the latest show of Shame in Africa, a big shame indeed for Africans, for sister nations in Africa. When will Africa truly unite? When will YOU stop relating with people based on their background but on individual personalities? We all need to outgrow and overcome this evil tendencies keeping us down as a people, even amongst ourselves if we are to emancipate Africa.

      Carlton Bana - 2012-03-08 16:10

      Nice touching speech, it would be better if you typed that in Nigeria not some dingy building in Hillbrow cutting cocain.

      thozi - 2012-03-08 16:34

      On a serious note, I feel for every honest Nigerian and the truth is that there are many here in South Africa - contributing to the development of our country. And that's a fact! But unfortunately, the good that they do, is overshadowed by the equally many who are dedicated to committing crime in South Africa. To us, ordinary South Africans, everytime there's child- or forced prostitution, a Nigerian is involved, Drugs peddling, 419 scam, false ID's and Marriage certificates and Academic certificates and... I can go on and on, a Nigerian is involved. Do you blame us?

  • Teri - 2012-03-08 16:08

    WTF wants to go to Nigeria?

      Naledi - 2012-03-08 16:47

      @ Teri - let me educate you - Who wants to go to Nigeria: -Absa -Woolworths -KFC -DSTV -ME and hundreds of other enlightened business people and Multi-national corporations who have identified huge opportunities on the continent's 2nd powerhouse. Sit along the sidelines and watch us make millions of throughout the rest of the continent - whilst u stupidly sit there and say "WTF wants to go to Nigeria" ... - Thnk u for your comment @Olunloyo

      Ross - 2012-03-09 01:01

      I bet Teri is saying this from her one bedroom shack in some remote, decrepit corner. More intelligent South Africans have since travelled to Nigeria to partake of the massive economic boom there. Ignorant Teri thinks the world revolves around her one bedroom.

      Elle-Black - 2012-03-09 08:14

      @ Naledi so our health should be compromised so that you and the mega businesses should make money? That is highly selfish of you. Tell you what since you have identified such amazing opportunities there ,stay there,marry one of the locals and get citizenship. i am well aware of Nigeria's fast growing economy, i dont think though 40 million Sa citizens should be sold down the river for all 5000 of you to make a buck or two.

  • Cathy - 2012-03-08 16:10

    Oh grow up Nigeria! The people were trying to enter our country with illegal documentation. Once more corruption has the upper hand. How utterly infantile to act in this manner! And then the SA govt actually apologises? Foreign nationals entering Nigeria will never be allowed in without all their medical papers 100% in order!!! My son in-law was deported and he has a green card!

      Saun - 2012-03-08 21:22

      @Cathy, seems u've taken part of the weeds, do u understand that the SA govt. apologies that the documments were not fake, but that they were not properly checked. This is because the whites that do properly jobs at the airport have all been removed and replaced with the low esteem minded blacks.

      Hugo - 2012-03-09 11:46

      Saun Whatever dude.

  • Khwezi - 2012-03-08 16:13

    who ever didnt allow them entry well done appology or no apollogy these guys are crooks, never ever trust a nigerian, they must all go home. I am tired of these fellow africans who talk kaak about our country but they are staying here, if you dont like it pack your sh...t leave us in piece.

  • Linda - 2012-03-08 16:16

    Who ever apologies was bored, SA government should get their house in order, otherwise we would not enjoy our space!