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SA becoming welfare state - SAIRR

2011-01-31 16:39

Johannesburg - The number of social grant beneficiaries in the country has increased by more than 300% in the last nine years, the SA Institute of Race Relations said on Monday.

"SA is becoming a welfare state... the number of social grant beneficiaries is on a constant rise. Grants risk creating a dependency syndrome," spokesperson Nachi Majoe said in a statement, commenting on figures in its latest South Africa Survey released last week.

In the 2009/10 financial year the country had nearly 14 million social grant beneficiaries. The child-support grant made up the highest share with over nine million beneficiaries. The old-age grant was second highest, with over two million beneficiaries.

By 2012 the national treasury predicted there would be 16 million beneficiaries.

Thirty percent of the country's population of 49.9 million were currently receiving social grants.

Comments
  • Antoinette - 2011-01-31 16:49

    *sigh*

  • f035monster - 2011-01-31 16:55

    28.05% is receiving grants. Poor journalism...

      richard - 2011-01-31 18:53

      And why are you the expert.

  • rudi.groenewald - 2011-01-31 17:09

    LOL... ummm... duh.. tell us something we didn't know?

  • sasafari - 2011-01-31 17:11

    nearly 50 million citizens and only about 10% are taxpayers supporting the welfare state.

      Wabb - 2011-01-31 18:07

      At the rate people are leaving the country, the 10% will be 9% in no time and then 8%, 7%.......

      richard - 2011-01-31 18:54

      Don't forget all the members of parliament and the rest of thier buddies.

      Mike - 2011-01-31 20:48

      You hit the nail smack on the beanie. It's not sustainable, but the question is at what point does the ANC government wake up to that unassailable, inescapable, fact?

  • Jungle_Girl - 2011-01-31 17:14

    It is unsustainable and we will end up rioting like Egypt and Tunisia with any luck. It is inevitable

      reader4444@24.com - 2011-02-01 09:54

      The sooner we start the real revolution the better. Oust the deadwood and let taxpayers take back their power.

  • Herman - 2011-01-31 17:14

    This is a big concern to me, where will this end. The ANC goverment better start creating jobs asap. I'm not even sure that if the SA economy is running @ full capacity would able to sustain 16mil mouths. We have to stop imegrants and start creating jobs for our own people, surely they come first. The second thing that must stop is the corruption how many jobs can be sustain ? How many jobs can be created if we sort out service delivery ? We have to start with proper education our children first. We should start teaching them to "fish" so that they don't ask for bread anymore !

      Madelane - 2011-01-31 18:37

      Governments CANNOT and never have been able to 'create' jobs. All they do is take your money pay themselves and a little to the people employed. This bunch of play at governing are the worst of the lot. Governments are not productive now nor have they ever been. What is needed is for the Malema's of this country to stop spouting nationlisation and to encourage foreign investment whereby one then creates productive industries that employ people. People that have a modicum of education that is.

      Zion - 2011-01-31 18:50

      Herman, You must add 250 000 new workers (mouths) from Zimbobwe to your calculations. Remember too that these mouths are going to reproduce too and the consequences are another 750 000 extra mouths to feed and provide with grants. Ayoba Ubuntu.

      Lawrence - 2011-01-31 19:23

      @Madelane - Well stated, no government has ever been able to sustain ongoing employment without the entrepreneurial skills of the electorate – The only jobs government can create is that of civil servants, members of parliament, police, fire-fighters, soldiers, etc. teachers and hospital staff should be self sustaining if the establishments are well run on business principles, unfortunately we are a welfare state so all the above can only be maintained through taxes. Over taxation will result in more entrepreneurs and established business leaving to neighbouring states offering tax reprieve, creating growth there instead of here. A further catalyst fuelling the exodus and or stifling growth is the stringent BEE rules and regulations which overwhelm and bury burgeoning entrepreneurs in their effort to create business and work in pursuit of profit. (I read an article that the minister of labour intends coming down harder on business) Government should encourage and not hinder entrepreneurial effort unnecessarily – All people within our rainbow nation, at grass roots level, should take hands and assist each other in concerted efforts to meet each others needs through sound business principles. Failing which ... We won't have a snowballs hope in ...

      Lawrence - 2011-01-31 19:25

      @Madelane - Well stated, no government has ever been able to sustain ongoing employment without the entrepreneurial skills of the electorate – The only jobs government can create is that of civil servants, members of parliament, police, fire-fighters, soldiers, etc. teachers and hospital staff should be self sustaining if the establishments are well run on business principles, unfortunately we are a welfare state so all the above can only be maintained through taxes. Over taxation will result in more entrepreneurs and established business leaving to neighbouring states offering tax reprieve, creating growth there instead of here. A further catalyst fuelling the exodus and or stifling growth is the stringent BEE rules and regulations which overwhelm and bury burgeoning entrepreneurs in their effort to create business and work in pursuit of profit. (I read an article that the minister of labour intends coming down harder on business) Government should encourage and not hinder entrepreneurial effort unnecessarily – All people within our rainbow nation, at grass roots level, should take hands and assist each other in concerted efforts to meet each others needs through sound business principles. Failing which ... We won't have a snowballs hope in ...

  • lldoidge - 2011-01-31 17:18

    The most important thing to control is the breeding! We are going to end up like the UK where these youngsters breed for their social grants. The small taxpaying base in this country can just not afford these never ending grants. Birth control needs to be preached all day everyday. Oh! sorry we can't because our president is the biggest culprit!

      Lihle - 2011-01-31 17:22

      We had a welfare state for whites pre-1994. All thats happened is that bits extended to neveryone else.The breeding among the whites was encouragede. Why discourage it now?

      Valis - 2011-01-31 17:29

      @Lihle: Oh bullshit! You have no idea what you are talking about. Idiot.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-31 17:49

      Pity I didn't benefit from it. And boy was I dirt poor!

      lldoidge - 2011-01-31 17:50

      Besides, lihle who mentioned race? You racist dumbass!

      DW - 2011-01-31 17:51

      Excuse me Lihle. My grandparents came from an era where they had 9-14 children. I dont know a single white South African family who has more than 4 children - and even those are rare. I did, however, meet a young Zulu man recently whose father had 67 children and 10 wives! Who do you think is going to feed all those children? I earn well and couldnt afford it, so I wonder how he will. Get your head out of the sand you idiot!

      Bill - 2011-01-31 18:14

      Lihle - I see your from matric class of 2010

      Wonderboy - 2011-01-31 18:28

      @Lihle. I wonder why the white population has increased from 5 million in 1970 to approx. 5million in 2010 against the 16 million blacks in 1970 to the approx. 40 million now. I think the breeding amongst the whites were encouraged so that the tax base could be increased.

      Zion - 2011-01-31 18:57

      Lihle, The only person who encouraged the whites to breed was the long gone leader of the Herstigte Nationale Party HNP. It was not popular then and not now because it goes against the grain of western philosophy.

      richard - 2011-01-31 19:02

      Lihle, you are right about one thing, we should have breeded a lot more . But let me tell you something, it is because your race breeding is out of control. Do you think that a mere grant of R200 a month for a child is sufficient for that child's welfare. That is the difference between us you see, and that is why you will remain poor because you have too much mouths to feed.

      JadedJay - 2011-01-31 20:05

      Lilhe...there are not enough strong insults for your obvious lack of intelligence (epidemic, endemic I suppose), but granted, it must just be awful enough being you, and I'll settle for that justice.

      rikhogrande - 2011-02-01 09:57

      @ Linhle, pre 1994 white people were encouraged to breed in and audacious bid by the anti-black apartheid government to rid white people of thier racial minority status. It also served to beef up thier numbers as there was a threat of a civil war and black people had far greater numbers. In this case however the people that are multiplying at the fastest rate are poor people with no resources. Meaning their kids grow up very disadvantaged and have the odds of making a meaningful contribution to the economy in their lifetime severely reduced. Unfortunately due to our recent past, apartheid, bantu education etc, approximately 99.9% of the most impoverished people are black. So if you encourage poor people to stop multiplying you inadvertently encourage a group that happens to be predominantly black to stop having kids. Its not a black or a white thing, its a plea to grant seekers to stop having more grant seekers.

  • jjhvan - 2011-01-31 17:26

    And now we are thrown into slavery. Not only paying for the sins of our fathers, but also the sins of all whites that started slavery. Bring it on... what the hell...

      Wonderboy - 2011-01-31 18:30

      Correction: Slavery was not started by whites.

      Madelane - 2011-01-31 18:40

      Oh grief...here we go again. Wake up and look at Africa where places like Kenya have been independent for fifty years and nothing has changed. Haiti is another example. So stop blaming someone else for your lack of ability which incidentally can be obtained very easily by making sure that the despised whiteys create more industry and work opportunities thereby affording you the opportunity to learn the necessary skills.

  • briansmith702 - 2011-01-31 18:02

    Typical of the mentality. If it is free grab it.

      mollma - 2011-02-01 09:33

      Unfortunately even if it is free people are not grabbing anything unless it is money and for that I am very sorry for.

  • Claude - 2011-01-31 18:03

    @Lihle - you are the the stereo type malema syndrome scum, go and get an education so that you can particpate in some intellectual discussion you prick. Basic economics is a good place to start......................

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-01-31 18:03

    This article is outdated by a few years. Becoming? I don't think so, it is already a welfare state. Get with the program, poor journalism

  • Cynical Sci - 2011-01-31 18:20

    Wish we could get back to being a "Night-watchman state"

  • The_Truth - 2011-01-31 18:31

    Start a program to stop the poor & uneducated from breeding like rats. Don't breed if you can't feed.

  • Klaus - 2011-01-31 18:31

    "Bonk" for your money!! @ monster, 28.05% ?, maybe the article was written 2 days ago!

  • theoldmanofthemountains - 2011-01-31 19:16

    "becoming"? No, have been for a while!

  • Showahed - 2011-01-31 19:55

    Some beneficiaries at least have death certificates...at least 5% of the 28.047658% and Lihle you are probably one of them numbskulls.

  • Snoopy88 - 2011-01-31 21:10

    They're doing it all backwards. How about rewarding people for NOT having children they can't look after? I've heard of too many cases where women have four kids just so they can claim the R250 monthly child grant. Nobody bothers working then because they can scrape by on R1000 a month and a rdp house. And if the children die of disease and malnutrition they just have more to replace the 'earners'. What really pisses me off is that they drop the babies with grandma and take the child grant for themselves. Then poor grandma must support the children on her meagre pension. Take care of the pensioners by all means, they have at least hopefully contributed to the economy most of their lives!

  • Rob - 2011-01-31 22:52

    Whites are the proverbial canary in the ANC`s coalmine and that canary is on life support. An apt quote by Dr. Adrian Rogers - "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."

      nixcroft - 2011-02-01 08:18

      so true !

  • Pragmatist - 2011-01-31 23:09

    The population is growing like a plague, and the tax base shrinking.... who is going to pay?

  • cam - 2011-01-31 23:34

    unemployed? just have more kids...your ticket to free money and more poverty.

  • youcantrunyoucanthide - 2011-02-01 06:54

    As hy staan steel hy... as hy le teel hy. - Ancient Chinese proverb.

  • Patrick Moloi - 2011-02-01 07:47

    Haikona. Mmmmm!!

  • dracolusus - 2011-02-01 09:28

    Stop the breeding, can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em. Simple!!!

  • dracolusus - 2011-02-01 09:32

    Saw an initiative somewhere to have mandatory drug testing for people on Welfare. i believe this is a great move. One better would be to only give welfare to people that voluntarily sterilise themselves. If you can't afford to feed yourself, stop breeding more mouths to feed!!!

  • Big Apple - 2011-02-01 09:51

    Creating more jobs will not solve this ... why would one work if you can recieve by doing nothing

  • reader4444@24.com - 2011-02-01 09:53

    What a shame that a country with so many resources should bottom out in the way it has. Too many out-stretched hands, either grabbing what they can get or pathetically unwilling to even try to help themselves.

  • rikhogrande - 2011-02-01 10:14

    Blame labour law, plus why dont we come up with a system that allows the unemployed to work part time or something for thier grant, they add no value yet they suck up soo much money

  • koper - 2011-02-01 10:33

    this is encouraging laziness. no wonder so many poor people breed so much.

  • Colin - 2011-02-01 13:24

    Well what do you really expect when our borders are left wide open to any "Tom, Dick or Harry" who arrives in our country. Their chances of employment are nil so automatically they get a free house, water, electricity and sewage removal. Our locals have to wait at least 20 years for these freebies. Who wants to wek anyway ??

  • AllHoliday - 2011-02-01 21:43

    Nine million children on social grants?? How about bringing in the "law" of ONE child per family? And sorry but if you want a child while you are still at school, you have to get out and get a job! Take responsibility for your actions. Too many school girls are pregnant in school, and this sets a bad example for the younger girls.

      Sanda - 2011-05-08 19:19

      this too has been iritating me;4 Gods sake why wud u concieve a child while knowing u won b able to feed them. peterssanda@gmail.com

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