News24

SA man stabs soldier in Israel - report

2012-02-28 14:54

Johannesburg - A South African who immigrated to Israel in October last year is facing charges in that country after allegedly stabbing a soldier during a brawl.

Haaretz reports that Adam Michael Gringruz, 20, originally from Johannesburg, allegedly stabbed an 18-year-old off-duty soldier in the neck with a broken bottle outside a Tel Aviv bar.

He claims it was in self-defence, after being chased by eight youths from the bar.

The injured soldier is in a moderate to serious condition at a hospital in Tel Aviv.

Gringruz's father, Yossi, is visiting Israel. He told Haaretz he had been allowed to meet his son for "two minutes" and that his son sustained a head injury in the altercation.

"He was going to enter the Israeli army in a few months," said Yossi Gringruz.

The family has lived in Johannesburg for more than 20 years, after moving from Russia to Israel in 1975.

Comments
  • Jomah - 2012-02-28 15:00

    Someone is in for some serious punishment, unlike the punishment handed down in the ANC courts!!

      Janice - 2012-02-28 15:01

      Yes, what a dumb move that was!!!

      kgomotso.radise - 2012-02-28 15:08

      Old habits die hard

      Putin the " - 2012-02-28 15:10

      Good because they won't be house arrest there, straight to jail boere

      Graham - 2012-02-28 15:15

      Surely the article should say that the South African man EMIGRATED to Israel. You can't immigrate to a country!

      Willie - 2012-02-28 15:19

      Main export ---violence

      Willie - 2012-02-28 15:22

      "...chased by eight youths from the bar..." we have enough of those --their leader Juju

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-02-28 16:01

      @ Graham...thats what they taught us at school...doubt if its still in the sillabus...I mean these days you can even touch someone on their studio! Then there is the outside chance that the reporter is sitting in Israel and could interpret it from that angle ?

      Hugh - 2012-02-28 16:27

      @nangambihr, what are you on about? I think your on the wrong thread, but since you want to start a racist debate, you've come to the right place.

      werner.smidt - 2012-02-28 16:29

      @Graham . . well, when you deal with teachers thinking it's OK to SMS a school principal in advance telling him that she's not coming to school, because she "got da flu" you really can't blame the new journalistic blood for not knowing the difference between "immigrate" and "emmigrate".

  • Nick - 2012-02-28 15:14

    Our local criminal market is so saturated that we need to start exporting to the rest of the world now!!!........lol.......we need to change "Proudly South African" to "If you have a dime we will supply the crime"....

  • Pieter Janse van Rensburg - 2012-02-28 15:18

    One man against 8 other youths and he did that in self-defense. Imagine they were one-on-one! Hooooooo Vuyu! Don't mess with South-Africans

  • NlggaWitattitude - 2012-02-28 15:40

    South Africans... we are special people..We committing crime world wide...

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-02-28 16:07

      ye you could almost say we are world champion criminals! of soos Kaspaas sou se...mens kan maar se eks onder 'n krimineel gebore...

  • emokgojoe - 2012-02-28 15:42

    maybe the boy was defending himself ppl,being a soldier doesnt mean you cant or dont misbehave yourself.He just been there for a few months and maybe its not as easy for him there, just talking from experience. I was once in a foreign country( germany) myself and trust me the ppl the were cold as ice..so ppl dont throw stones when you live in a glass house, think SA is a bad state go overseas and stay there for a while not in some hotel and youll come back telling a different story...anyway like i said maybe he was defending himself

  • Rolene - 2012-02-28 15:44

    Cosmos, you seem obsessed with the fact he is Jewish, why?

      cosmos.ndebele - 2012-02-28 16:21

      You want to accuse me of something, Go on

      Rolene - 2012-02-28 16:33

      I am not accusing you just curious

  • Nkulekweni - 2012-02-28 15:44

    South African doctors are world class knife wound experts. Student doctors from aound the world come to SA to learn about treating stab wounds. I guess we have to be world class in something..

      Jesse Casanova - 2012-03-11 12:46

      Wow I actually used to be friends with this guy I knew him last year before her left, he used to work in morningside shopping center at optimum nutrition as the store manager, he was very messed up on drugs before her left that was the main reason as to why he was leaving to get away from the parents that were fed up with his habbits and to stay away from his drug lifestyle in south africa, we stopped being friends just before he left cause he was acting really and paranoid on drugs I think that might of had to do with the stabbing seeing as he was such an unstable person

  • Vuks01 - 2012-02-28 15:52

    Another SA Export - violent crime

  • nangammbihr - 2012-02-28 16:15

    Fellow white people, don't confuse forgiveness with forgetfulness. There is still a lot of imbalances, inequalities and deep wounds that were caused by 100's of years that won't heal in a mere 2 decades. Blacks resent you. Why? For if their parents had had same opportunities as you then we'd be on equal playing fields. You had a 100 year head start in everything and expect us to just accept that this "race" this is fair when you are still ahead of us by 100's of years? We forgave you but we have not forgotten or healed yet. Accept it. Work with us. Yeah, we'll still try to guilt you into doing things but that's the price you pay. Issue closed!

      Danny - 2012-02-28 17:03

      what does this have to do with a stabbing in israel?

      Mikkel - 2012-02-28 17:41

      "We forgave you but we have not forgotten or healed yet" - Ofc you forgave us I'm so sure of that. Also when are you planning on getting healed? Srsly retarded comment of note.

      Pierre - 2012-02-28 19:06

      Nagamibaar, waar val jy uit??????

      marcanthonytaylor - 2012-02-28 22:12

      Swazi or Durban poison?

  • TenRas1 - 2012-02-28 16:15

    so this is what whites do when they get to the other side of the country...Lets all shout death penalty

      Mikkel - 2012-02-28 17:48

      Assuming that it is a White person is simply ridiculous. You have NO facts to prove it. Shame on you.

      marcanthonytaylor - 2012-02-28 22:13

      When were Jewish people white?

  • schewitz - 2012-02-28 16:18

    the comments on this post are ridiculous. firstly to the racist black man Cosmos O'Ndebele one become s citizen when one has an identity number, regardless of color. you may live in a world where only black people can be south African, that is racism my friend. I am south African as i hold a south African identity document, i am also Israeli as i hold an Israeli identity document. i am as much a south african as any one else on the same note i am as much an israeli as anyone else. Dual citizenship is common very common. Indians are prohibited from dual citizenship and some other states prohibit dual citizenship. South africans are allowed multiply citizenship as this adds to the economy in that south Africa wants people like me to return and pay taxes. I dont think i will return due to my disdain for racism and south africa is a deeply racist society from all sides white on black racism black on white racism(such as yourself and malema) and the violence is just extreme. i will not give up my south african citizenship as one never knows what the future holds. I am Jewish and African and i happen to have white skin(for those that skin color matter, shame on you u should stick your head back in the sand and get .....)

      Willie - 2012-02-28 16:31

      Are you new on this blog

      NlggaWitattitude - 2012-02-28 16:37

      @Willie I think he is new because he is trying to reason lol... "News24 commenting 101" No need to read the article just start attacking the other race , that's how South Africans roll in News24... No need to reason lol

      cosmos.ndebele - 2012-02-28 16:44

      @SCHEWTZ im not racist by an measure. My girlfriend is WHITE & VERY WHITE, I hve Jewish (Israeli) friends and i eat jewish food in their houses, does that sound familiar my friend. I have spent all my adult life in Europe & true i have nationality too. But this is clearly Israeli Jew & his family lived in S.A while in transit. I disagree that he commits crime then all of a sudden there is no mention of his Israeli passport. Send this guy to the Kibbutz & leave S.A name out of it.

  • erick.letshwene - 2012-02-28 16:18

    Emigratedto Isreal, really now...

  • Mohsin - 2012-02-28 16:18

    WHATEVER WE DONT CARE! KILL EACH OTHER!

  • schewitz - 2012-02-28 16:21

    the headline is massively misleading. it was a bar brawl thats all. it was not a man in uniform or a soldier on duty just a normal 20 year crazy drunk youth. it happens everyday in south africa, in Europe in asia its what happens when young people drink too much. whats the fuss about. a more appropriate albiet less sensational story would be south african youth involved in bar brawl in Tel Aviv

      Barefoot - 2012-02-29 07:31

      I believe they said the soldier was off duty

  • Nomtha - 2012-02-28 16:33

    I REALY THINK IT WAS SELF DEFENCE COZ NO ONE JUST ATTACKS SOMEONE OUT OF THE BLUE...LYK REALLY.BUT IF HE REALLY DID JUST ATTACK THAT POOR BOY THEN JUSTICE SHOULD PREVAIL.

  • Jay - 2012-02-28 16:41

    jew on jew violence!!! not cool yo!!

  • Jay - 2012-02-28 16:48

    hey cosmos guess what half the people in this country are illegal immigrants!!! forget about the jews!!! i hope A ZIMBABWEAN TAKES YOUR JOB!!!!!

      cosmos.ndebele - 2012-02-28 18:06

      Jay how did yr grand parents arrive here?

  • Zion - 2012-02-28 17:08

    Oh, for the bounty of South Africa and the generosity which accompanies it. Now we export our crime to other countries. Ubuntu at its best.

  • Tshiamo - 2012-02-28 17:10

    what has his jewish extraction has got to do with the crime? people from other races commit crimes too? Even worse. Please be rational!!! This is an isolated case in Israel that's why it has even made the headlines. While in this part of the world it is par for the course.

  • Se-a Spencer Ikeremm - 2012-02-28 18:19

    Let him rot there...SA has an army that he could have joined.

  • paulmandlankosi - 2012-02-28 19:50

    Once a South African always a South African

  • Cheslin White - 2012-02-28 20:10

    I was abroad a few years, got racially abused and threatened by a bunch of thugs. The local community and press were outraged and came to my aid. SA consulate still too respond, 15 years later!! Watched Voetspore on SABC 2 last night. The staff at the SA counsulate in Mali were outstanding in their welcoming of the SA explorers when they stopped over there. Let us not generalise and let anger guide us. Listen to the facts and then form an opinion. Humanity must be our guide.

  • Tanie - 2012-02-28 20:35

    Dangerous weapon that is, bottle kop? he must have lots of coloured friends or have just passed out from the camps.

  • schewitz - 2012-02-28 22:57

    i love it when racist cry "im not a racist" i just hate.....

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