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SA murders exceed road deaths - survey

2012-02-06 19:11

Johannesburg - South Africa is the only country where one is more likely to be murdered than to be killed in a road accident, an SA Institute of Race Relations (SAIRR) survey has found.

"That our murder rate exceeds killings on the roads does not mean that road fatalities are low, only that our high murder rate is even higher than our high road fatality rate," researcher Kerwin Lebone said on Monday.

The study was based on information from the road traffic corporation and the police for the 2010/11 financial year ending last March.

It found that 32 South Africans per 100 000 died as a result of being murdered, while 28 per 100 000 died in road accidents.

"International data shows that the rate of road deaths is always much higher than the murder rate throughout the world," Lebone said.

In the United States, for example, road fatalities accounted for three times more deaths than murder.

Only Limpopo and Mpumalanga came close to the international norm, with twice as many people killed in road deaths than through murder.

According to the survey, the murder rate declined 7% on the previous year.

Data showed that the proportion of people murdered had halved in the 17 years since 1994.

Comments
  • Larry - 2012-02-06 19:19

    Says a lot about what we have to live with. All because of an incompetent Government, Police force and Justice system

      sean - 2012-02-06 19:53

      Stand up then and lets be counted.As the victums of this monstrous and evil society we have to live in,lets do something about our situation,anything within reason.Can't be b***hing about how pathetic our murder rates are and yet lay down and accept it as the normal way of life or as the South African way of life.Libya,Egypt,Tunisia all got rid of their bad governments doing so the violent way,so why can't we do something similar.Are we too afraid of what might transpire as a consequence of going down that route?Rise up people and lets ****ing do something about the situation before we become part of the stats.

      Eugene Muller - 2012-02-06 20:10

      Well if the country is run by people singing songs about killing other people and see nothing wrong with it, what can we expect?

      Bokfan - 2012-02-06 20:11

      This is just a temporary setback. I'm pretty sure the minibus industry will immediately rise to the challenge and take its rightful place at the head of the homicide table.

      Pierre - 2012-02-07 07:58

      On previous threads hardcore right wingers argued with me on this; fortunately this time the article gives us one of the numbers. We are currently at 32 per 100000 murders. The other number, the rate at 1994 is 66 per 100000. (Wikipedia is easiest to confirm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_South_Africa) The murder rate has DECLINED by more than 50% since 1994. Understand what was left by Apartheid and appreciate the progress. There is still a long way to go; but things have IMPROVED.

      Marcell - 2012-02-07 09:01

      @Pierre The only thing that has IMPROVED is the gold price.

      Paul - 2012-02-07 14:28

      But atleast we good drivers , ok that was a weak joke, but damn man why all the negativity , If you take a look at the long term stats, murders are down from 50/100000 in 2000 to 32/100000 now !!1 You see for me the glass is always half full, I refuse to live with a negative attitude, I pray,hope and always look for a positive when faced by negativity. The way you guys go on you'd swear we were living in HELL ... ok ok ...even 1 murder is one to many but we don't live in a perfect world. SA has it's problems, no doudt about it , but for me it has a lot of positives , but one needs to be willing to see them. Take this article , I read it and decided to take a look at the facts, and what did I learn .... 9000 less murders were committed in 2011 than in 2000 , now that's a big positive ... and I pray and hope that the trend continues ... well done ANC keep it up !! The Eternal Optimist !!!

      biltong.eldest - 2012-12-19 04:57

      @ pierredevilliers.9231 You sure about this Pierre? Me thinks the guys keeping the records don't count to well.

  • Anton Mönnig - 2012-02-06 19:23

    Lol, this is ridiculous!

      Fredster - 2012-02-07 09:52

      YIP....WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THIS MR PRESIDENT?

  • Sean - 2012-02-06 19:24

    Are we up for refugee status yet?

  • Adam - 2012-02-06 19:30

    The worlds average is 6.9 per 100 000

      biltong.eldest - 2012-12-19 05:01

      Canada's murder rate is 1,73 per 100 000 and from an ex Capetonian life here is GOOD!

  • Belinda - 2012-02-06 19:30

    so much for democracy

      Loodpil - 2012-02-06 19:49

      Democracy: a political system where two fools can outvote a genius.

  • John - 2012-02-06 19:36

    I would like to know what the murder rate per 100 000 in SA was BEFORE 1994 ? Probably one of the lowest in the world...now it is the highest. What does that tell you ?

      Adam - 2012-02-06 19:56

      it was 66.9 in 1994-95

      Al - 2012-02-07 01:52

      @ Adam, Sorry, but which part of BEFORE 1994 did you not understand?

      John - 2012-02-07 07:34

      Wouldn't have been that much lower. Them comrades liked to kill each other back then, just as they do now. Nothing changed.

      Pierre - 2012-02-07 08:46

      @iPixel: Adam’s rate is correct for ’94. The rate before '94 was not reported. The Nats were clever enough. However one can guess. The highest reported murder rate we have was for '94. However in the preceding 5 or so years there were especially high political violence. (The favourite for many News24 readers is the "black on black" violence, but don't forget the "third force" activities and weapon smuggling into KZN.) We know crime and murder escalated from early to mid 80's and murder reached a high around '91-'94. An estimate for the murder rate in early 90's can be to assume the known '94 rate, but I would argue that it was considerable higher due to the political violence at the time. We will actually never know, but don’t fool yourself in thinking it was anything close to “the best in the world”.

      Marcell - 2012-02-07 09:03

      Less farmers were killed pre 94.

      Pierre - 2012-02-07 11:41

      Northern Transvaal played better rugby pre ’94 than the Bulls play today.

  • Comrade - 2012-02-06 19:37

    ANOTHER A.N.C. WORLD FIRST.

  • Ben - 2012-02-06 19:37

    What a comparison. What a record. Something must be done about this sad state of affairs.

  • AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 19:39

    So hitch-hiking is definetly a dead end ... hooray another first for the ANC.

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 19:41

      Crazy though - It's still home to me ...

  • John - 2012-02-06 19:47

    Another one of those fake stats yet again on news24.......as they say 70% of stats are all made up, please don't tell me we have a higher murder rate than Mexico etc lets be serious here.....

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 19:49

      Check it out John - you may just be surprised ..

      Sean - 2012-02-06 19:55

      Irrespective of whether you feel the stats are accurate or not, you can't deny that SA has one of the highest murder rates in the world. Mexico has major drug problem with the cartels that account for most of their murders, majority of our murders are senseless and unprovoked.

      Adam - 2012-02-06 20:00

      @John, since 2000, the rate in Mexico has ranged from 10 - 15 murders per 100 000. In 2011 it was 15.

      John - 2012-02-06 20:39

      http://urbantitan.com/10-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-in-2011/ read this list and then come back to me and tell me that since you come from the most dangerous place on the planet you would gladly visit any of these place.....lol i will pay if there are any takers.....

      sean - 2012-02-06 22:33

      SA does have a high murder rate,that don't even makes it into the world's top ten per 100 000 people murdered.We not as bad as it sounds as some experts here on News24 would want you to believe! Top Ten Countries with Highest Murder Rates Country Murder Rates (Per 100,000) Year Honduras 82.1 in 2011 El Salvador 66.0 in 2011 Cote d'Ivoire 56.9 in 2009 Jamaica 52.1 in 2011 Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of) 49.0 in 2010 Belize 41.7 in 2011 Guatemala 41.4 in 2011 Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2 in 2011 Zambia 38 in 2009 Uganda 36.3 in 2009 Source of information www.infoplease.com www.mapsofworld.com

      billxhosa - 2012-02-07 02:58

      @john and @sean You people need to get out more. First not everyone believes that the stats released are even accurate and the government is lowering the reported numbers. Second if you want to compare yourself with third rate countries to feel good that's nice. Here is a link to murder rates for developed countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Homicide_rate2004.svg USA 5.5/100,000. Canada, France, England, Australia, Italy, Germany <2/100,000. Your rate is incredibly bad but most of you live in denial. I bet 95% of people who live in SA and comment on this site either have a friend or relative that has been shot, stabbed or killed. In developed countries that's not how people live.

      Pierre - 2012-02-07 07:46

      SA murder rate is very high at 32 per 100000 compare to around 7 for the world average and below 5 for Europe. However the point that people should not forget is that in 1994 (at handover from Apartheid) the rate was 66 per 100000, double what it is today. Thus SA is improving. Just from last year we had an 8.6% percent drop in the murder rate. In 1994 SA was the nr 1 country regarding murder, SA is now around 10. Yes, yes still very high, just understand the improvement. Also people pointing fingers at the ANC on this forum; I am not an ANC member, but you are clearly pointing fingers at the wrong people. @John: We are unfortunately higher than Mexico, but below some South American countries. What I think counts in SA’s favour is that our crime reporting is especially good. This is a personal opinion, but I think a lot of crime go unreported in South America. (Just a note for the trolls, I know Mexico is in North America.)

      John - 2012-02-07 11:18

      The moral of the story don't believe everything you read, everyone has their own agenda, having lived in a lot of parts of the world i can tell you that i do not feel any safer the moment i leave SA in fact in most places i feel very unsafe i,e parts of London, USA and even parts of OZ or Auckland....Don not get me wrong things still need to get a lot better hence i am calling for a million people march aganist crime is SA, Labour is so cheap here that we could actually have the lowest crime rate in the world if we had better trained police, security people and everyone played their part. "A million people march against crime on Mandela day 2012", i have made the call now join me if you really care otherwise put up and shut up.....

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-02-06 19:48

    And yet our population is still rocketing up. We can't even kill ourselves effectively.

  • Adam - 2012-02-06 20:10

    Emerging countries (BRICS) Brazil 23, Russia 15, India 3.4, China 1.12 and SA 34 per 100 000 population. We are the 8th highest behind El Salvador 71, Honduras 67, Jamaica 62, Guatemala 62, Saint Kitts & Nevis 52, Venezuela 49 and Trinidad & Tobago 43. For rape, we hold the first place along with farm murders per capita

      MrGrumpy - 2012-12-18 23:45

      And all those other spots at least have some drug trafficking to fight over...

  • Charmain - 2012-02-06 20:28

    See it works like this. "Road safety" is enforced as harshly a possible because bribes pay for lunch and much more. Obeying road rules are also life saving seeing that getting pulled over can get you a high-jacking, armed robbery, asualt or rape at the hands of the "efficient" SA cops. Murdering someone on the other hand is a much better option. You get off scott free! Do the math...

  • Kevern Upton - 2012-02-06 20:28

    Bring back death penalty.

  • Jacques - 2012-02-06 20:28

    then we must have the best drivers in the world.... NOT!

  • Marius - 2012-02-06 20:35

    What a sad state our country is in. There is no light at the end of the tunnel. Only more murder and mayhem in our future.

  • Sanet Oelofse - 2012-02-06 20:44

    Very true... In my father's 65 years on this earth, he spent a substantial amount of that on the road in his car and was never involved in a car accident, but was murdered in his own home, by armed robbers.

  • cameronjohnprice - 2012-02-06 21:21

    32 per 100 000.... this does not sound right. Interpol doubles that figure.

      Pierre - 2012-02-07 08:13

      Yes the Interpol number is double, but this number is the one most reporting agencies use as correct. More important than the actual number in my opinion is how the number is coming down year on year. I am more interested in the improvement than quibble if the number is 30 or 50.

      MrGrumpy - 2012-12-18 23:49

      @pierre: Sure, we have more and more faith in the accuracy of statistics supplied by police. You view seems to be that the statistic are correct because they were supplied... I don't know about that, bru. But for the sake of your argument, stuff the verification and let's just accept the numbers given to us.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-02-06 22:13

    ...and we have one of the highest road fatality figures...

  • Lynn - 2012-02-06 22:25

    Whats wrong with some South Africans. It's become a hobby to murder!

  • Bloubul Jonck - 2012-02-06 22:25

    This is BAD VERY VERY BAD Why don't you put colour to this article, I am sure it is 95% blacks killing whites

      tanyan1 - 2012-02-07 10:07

      You're a racist idiot. It's more like 95% of killings are blacks/coloureds killing other black/coloured. The difference between white and black murder victims is that the family and friends of whites are more educated and more outspoken and make a bigger fuss of it, and these murders make it into the news. Every day thousands of black/ coloured South Africans are being killed and raped and nobody gives them any attention. I know because i have spent time working in townships. I am white by the way. I just don't have my head up my arse, like you. Start educating yourself, or you are no better than the uneducated black masses of SA.

      MrGrumpy - 2012-12-18 23:49

      No, dude. Not necessary in this article.

  • Pierre - 2012-02-07 03:07

    Some even argued on this before, but this article now gives us one of the numbers. We are currently at 32 per 100000 murders. To compare, the 1994 number is 66 per 100000. (Wikipedia is easiest to confirm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_South_Africa) Please don’t talk of a decline or anything similar. The murder rate has IMPROVED by more than 50% since 1994. Understand what was left by Apartheid.

  • Johnson - 2012-02-07 06:16

    A s tudy is a study, outcome is something you can either except or do something about it.

  • dumisiledee - 2012-02-07 08:53

    Hmmmmm it means South Africans are GOOD drivers:)

  • drishworth - 2012-02-07 09:04

    Thank God for that - I'd just hate to be killed in a car crash..............

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-02-07 11:16

    HI ACE. High Impact Culling Equipment.

  • RabidDog5150 - 2012-02-07 13:33

    I love the emotion these types of articles provoke. If everyone worked half as hard for our country as they spend replying to these types of emo articles and stats we wouldn't have stats like this in the first place. People will kill people, it is that simple. It will never end, in this country or any other. For as long as the reward of murder out weighs the risk it will continue, simple human nature. So lets all grow up and protect ourselves and those that can't protect themselves. For as long as we blame previous regimes, current regimes or social standings we will never accept responsibility for our actions. So tired of the "this made me do it" or "that made me do it". What we should be saying is "I thought I would get away with it and that is why I did it". Only ever boils down to being selfish, period.

  • Sechaba - 2012-02-07 14:28

    atleast Limpopo is not on a bad side this time around

  • Alan - 2012-02-07 14:59

    ANC Champions of Murder as well! Wow!

  • Passionate.Parrot - 2012-02-07 15:11

    How about giving us the true figures of murders, rapes, muggings, thefts, hijacks. This is like the days of the Wild, Wild, West. Strange how the rest of the world don't say a word, don't seem the least bothered. I guess they don't mind this version of "Democracy".

  • annie.israel.50 - 2012-12-19 12:59

    Why everybody asks - SIMPLE THE CORRUPT POLICE/GOVERNMENT AND JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT and the cancerous Zuma is back in the seat - DISGUSTING - does he not realize that he is being watched by the whole WORLD - he most probably do not care due to his age and will keep on plunder SA dry

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