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SA speaks with rare authority - Clinton

2012-08-08 15:57

Cape Town - South Africa's next generation of leaders should honour the legacy of former president Nelson Mandela by promoting democratic values around the world, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday.

She also called on South Africa, which voluntarily gave up its nuclear weapons programme from 1989, to use its long-standing links with Tehran to persuade Iran to reconsider its suspected pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Clinton, speaking two days after visiting the 94-year-old Mandela, said South Africa's legacy of peacefully overturning apartheid brought with it responsibilities.

"Few countries on this continent can carry as much weight or be such effective partners and leaders as South Africa," Clinton told university students in Cape Town, in a speech billed as the centrepiece of an 11-day Africa tour.

"You are a democratic power with the opportunity to influence Africa and the world."

Clinton's speech was a strong call for South Africa to do more on everything from promoting economic development to solving global challenges, such as Syria's bloody crisis or the impasse over Iran's nuclear programme.

Sign of strength, not weakness

"As the first country to voluntarily give up nuclear weapons, South Africa speaks with rare authority," Clinton said.

The ANC has had close ties with the Islamic leaders of Iran as well as with Western powers trying to put pressure on Tehran to end what they suspect is a drive to develop a nuclear weapons capability.

Iran says its nuclear programme is for peaceful purposes only.

"You can most convincingly make the case that giving up nuclear weapons is a sign of strength, not weakness," she said

Peppering her remarks with personal reminiscences of Mandela, Clinton tried to underscore that South Africa's own democratic values called it to greater action.

"I do believe because of your history, South Africa has an obligation to be a constructive force in the international community - just as the United States does," she said.

The apartheid government developed a nuclear arms programme. The decision to dismantle the programme came as the Cold War was ending and Pretoria saw less need for weapons to counter a communist threat. The apartheid regime was also trying to improve its tainted global image.

Comments
  • felix.feline.3 - 2012-08-08 16:04

    Please dismantle your nuclear weapons America. Is it working?

      cliff.slabbert - 2012-08-08 16:19

      And then ??????

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-08 16:34

      With all the "comrades" and "Revoltion" talk going around I think Pretoria should bring back those nuclear weapons to protect us from the communist threat.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-08 16:52

      Yes let Russia and China sit with all the nuclear weapons, smart move (not)

      keith.murphy.9638 - 2012-08-08 20:53

      Yes ! this evil monster coming and preaching in the name of peace yet they are the onse supportings terrorist to overthrow regimes.Look until today how the people of Vietnam are suffering?? This Hitlary monster taking about their concern and will support financially.Money cannot bring back their lives and redisform the kiks.The west and its allies should be wiped off the face of the earth so that the world can become a better place to live in without them vampires.South Africa should declare her per sona non grata

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-09 09:34

      I want to understand the logic here Keith: The West are evil vampires. They must be wiped off the face of the Earth. So who exactly is the "evil vampire". The West or you?

  • Rashida Patel - 2012-08-08 16:24

    Who in their right mind cares or believes what clinton or america has to say..starting wars all over,only country to use nuclear bombs

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:30

      All the while hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims are being slaughtered by Jihadists and unelected dictators in your midsts, and you're doing nothing about it. At least Clinton is.

      cliff.slabbert - 2012-08-08 16:37

      Typical radical anti western anti democratic twaddle Patel. Do not judge everyone by your small mindedness. If it was not for the USA you would be speaking Russian right now if you were lucky enough to be alive.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-08-08 16:47

      Where to start with this? How many of these wars were actually started by the US, even this latest Iraq war should have been sorted in the early 90s if it weren't for the idiots in the UN. Second, the atom bombs dropped on Japan ended the war much quicker and arguably saved more lives than they killed and at least the US loaned Japan and germany the money to rebuild after the war. And what about occasions like the Balkans where the US was told the slaughter of bosniak muslims was a european affair only to be asked to clean up the mess later and how often are they told its an african affair only to watch it descend into chaos.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-08 16:56

      If America hadn't gotten involved in WWII and used nuclear weapons you would have had the Japanese and the Germans as your masters. It wouldn't have bothered me, but it wouldn't have been very nice for non-Europeans

      salee.sithwell - 2012-08-08 17:08

      "To use" - used where?

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-08 17:44

      " If it was not for the USA you would be speaking Russian right now if you were lucky enough to be alive." A majority of Africans already speak French, so your point is what? Revisionists will have us believe that "civilised" European powers fought WW11 to free the world from evil. +- 1.5 million Algerians sacrificed their lives in order to free Algeria from the French colonialist, as did many other Africans in various countries. Nazi Reich or British/French/Spanish/Portuguese/Belgian colonialism makes no difference. They are/were all birds of a feather!

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-08-08 18:11

      Realy Rashida are they stil using nuclear bombs today? Where? When? Prove please

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-08 18:16

      Depleted uranium in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. Google "Fallujah birth defects"!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 18:45

      Right now, in the US/Mandela thread, Fidel states that Nelson Mandela is an "Uncle Tom", a fake. This is how delusional Fidel's world is. One of the most revered leaders the world over, our own Nelson Mandela, is a fake. Fidel's obsessive and immature anti-West core belief even distorts his view of Nelson Mandela. I wonder what ANC members and voters (67% of South Africans) think of this.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-08 20:06

      No wonder this fidel HATES the West. Democracy , according to her === ""a noisy circus every four or five years"" What an insult to all those who fought to get democracy to SA

  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-08 16:27

    You should know, after countless years of SA UN ambassadors giving your UN envoys hiding. You should see the face of Susan Rice squirming whenever SA has managed to convince large majorities in the UNGA not to support your stance. You aint seen nothing yet. There is a reason why we are chairing the NAM and the AU!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:29

      Right now, in the US/Mandela thread, Fidel states that Nelson Mandela is an "Uncle Tom", a fake. This is how delusional Fidel's world is. One of the most revered leaders the world over, our own Nelson Mandela, is a fake. Such is his world view. Fidel's obsessive and immature anti-West core belief even distorts his view of Nelson Mandela. I wonder what ANC members and voters (67% of South Africans) think of this.

      cliff.slabbert - 2012-08-08 16:39

      Not a lot Fred!

      cliff.slabbert - 2012-08-08 16:48

      Fidel , where were you when the Berlin Wall came down? Most probably not even born yet. Well maybe a bit of education might help. Then the excuse for an education that you are so sadly offered in South Africa may be your feasible excuse.....? So I cant really blame you for not knowing any better.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-08 17:02

      I think Fidel is a little youngster and still have a lot to learn about the world.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-08 17:25

      Doesn't take much to get the nasty ,spitefull insults and inuendo stirred up does it? Poor you, nothing to counter-argue with? Or in the words of Cicero "When you have no basis for an argument, abuse the plaintiff."

  • cliff.slabbert - 2012-08-08 16:30

    My speculation is that Mandela is not at all happy with the ANC as it stands right now under it's present 'leadership'. I think Hilary gave Zuma and co a gentle but firm warning slap on the wrist on behalf of Mandela with the US Governments backing.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-08 17:06

      Well if the US can help us get rid of these clowns, and replace it with a regime that's competent and have sound principles we would be much indebted.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-08 18:36

      You are the kind of western agents that need elimination. You should be standing in the docks with your boeremag brethren.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-08 19:57

      Fidel, Your HATRED is not only disturbing, IT IS SICK !!!1

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 19:58

      To Fidel, even Nelson Mandela is a fake. Imagine that.

  • sycomachinery - 2012-08-08 16:31

    South-Africa got rid of it's nuclear weapons because we did not want it to fall into ANC hands, not because of some righteous ideology or something. If you want the government to ask Iran to do something you will have to pay them an diplomatic fee, in other words a bribe. For a minister of foreign affairs it is amazing how little HC knows about African politics

      opinion.blake - 2012-08-08 16:46

      If there is one person I won't underestimate it is her. She knows exactly how African politics work. She even knows the terrible things we would rather choose not to know. I assure you that behind closed doors she is less diplomatic. No use as secretary of state vomiting your disgust at poor leadership in public.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-08 16:51

      She's upset because she gets no action from the staff in her office. Bill still leads the way.

  • sisie.indola - 2012-08-08 16:34

    Zuma is so poop scared of this fire brand that he hasn't even been in the country while she visited.

      cliff.slabbert - 2012-08-08 20:47

      Exactly Sisie!

  • rickvcooper - 2012-08-08 16:38

    'SA speaks with a rare authority...' Wank wank masterbate.

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-08-08 16:39

    Oh, no!

  • michael.i.wright - 2012-08-08 16:41

    I feel sorry for the devil the day this woman pops her clogs. He might have to move to America and seek asylum.

  • el.torro.509 - 2012-08-08 16:41

    An authority that is rapidly diminishing with the vacuum in quality leadership we face!

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-08 16:55

    I don't like Hillary Clinton. Something about this woman is not lekker ...

  • Mike - 2012-08-08 17:25

    Hilary, how naive can you be to make this suggestion. You are totally out of touch with reality. I am not going go into detail but I find your comprehension of African and the Middle East affairs disturbing to say the least.

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-08-08 17:27

    stop colonising the world

  • gerrit.volschenk - 2012-08-08 17:30

    What partnership. The USA has no interest in SA except for what they can gain for self enrichment as they have been doing for years all over the world. One sided partnership now trying to befriend Africa after they lost out to China.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-08 17:56

      Well said, but the jelly brained on this thread are befallen with US exceptionalism and altruism, despite diametrically opposed evidence to the contrary.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 18:25

      Right now, in the US/Mandela thread, Fidel states that Nelson Mandela is an "Uncle Tom", a fake. This is how delusional Fidel's world is. One of the most revered leaders the world over, our own Nelson Mandela, is a fake. Fidel's obsessive and immature anti-West core belief even distorts his view of Nelson Mandela. I wonder what ANC members and voters (67% of South Africans) think of this.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-08 19:55

      This Fidel is not interested in any voters. Democracy to Fidel is "just a noisy circus , every four r five years" Talk about being childish !!

  • nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-08-08 18:19

    Shame another person living in the past! Sorry Me Clinton the Leaders of today do not care about Madiba and if the ANc of today had nuclear wepons they would have hang onto it with all their might!

  • zama.williams - 2012-08-08 18:39

    But how can this American woman pretend/befriend SA like this? Its a slap on the face! If we are such friends with America then how come we r undermined like this? The commodities speak for themselves, the is and has always been way smaller than the dollar! America is a control freak!

  • Amanda - 2012-08-08 18:41

    Can HC really be so naive of Africa! She is really one stupid woman. Hope she and Obama and the rest of the Democrat administration go in the next elections. Fingers crossed.

  • Amanda - 2012-08-08 19:16

    By the way - whoever wrote this stupid Headliner on News 24 should be fired. What utter rubbish. Please stop looking sensationilistic headers without any base!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-09 09:58

      Amanda, Are you not lucky, that you don't live in Russia, China or Iran, and that you don't HAVE to go to this news site !! THAT is exactly what the USA propagates; Freedom of speach, Freedom of information Try RT, they will give you the kind of 'news, YOU will like !!!!!

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