Settlement mooted in Malema case

2011-04-21 13:00

Johannesburg - The possibility of a settlement in the hate speech trial against Julius Malema was raised during his cross-examination in the South Gauteng High Court on Thursday.

"If the spirit is the same here, certain things... will die a natural death because we appreciate one another. And it doesn't need a court order," said the ANC Youth League president.

Afrikaner interest group AfriForum and farmer representatives TAU-SA have taken Malema to the Equality Court over his singing of the lyrics "idhubhula ibhuna", which translate from isiZulu to "shoot the boer".

Malema, however, has said he did not recognise the translation from isiZulu as "shoot the boer".

He said that the two parties had moved closer.

"We are coming very close to each other."

Shell House massacre

Malema was led through questioning on whether he was open to dialogue to solve the matter, which has also sparked a national debate.

He said he had already told AfriForum youth leader Ernst Roets that he was open to dialogue.

But, he did not agree with their decision to take it to court or to stage a march outside Luthuli House. He denied Roets's testimony that his group was threatened with a repeat of the Shell House massacre if they went ahead with the march.

"They came to Shell House, there was no shooting," he said of a two hour meeting between the two. He corrected himself to say Luthuli House as the headquarters of the ANC.

Shell House in Johannesburg was their previous base and 19 people died after ANC security guards opened fire on IFP marchers shortly before the country's first democratic elections.

After the tea break lawyers for AfriForum and TAU-SA said they would be happy to engage in dialogue but they would not abandon the court case. It would be a parallel process, they said.

  • paulf - 2011-04-21 13:10

    So it is going to be debated then?

      Tc - 2011-04-21 13:48

      An excuse for doing nothing while people get killed because of the song!

      Thangy - 2011-04-21 15:45

      Nobody is getting killed because of the song, let it go!

      Benny66 - 2011-04-22 09:54

      @Thangy. And your qualification for making such a statement is? - or is this just your opinion?

  • daaivark - 2011-04-21 13:17

    Debated even more!!! What a waste of time and resources.

  • Slapper - 2011-04-21 13:29

    No settlement can be reached without a total ban on the song. It would be nice to see Malema with a bill for the cost of the whole episode, maybe it would cause him to at least try to think a little, before opening his mouth?

      Steven - 2011-04-21 13:55

      Sure... he would need to sell one of his farms to pay for it!

      DW - 2011-04-21 15:26

      He hasnt even paid the fine that the previous court imposed on him for hate speech. He has no respect for the law. What makes you think it would be different this time?

  • Born To Fish - 2011-04-21 13:31

    Ag whatever! Give little Baby Julius the Country so that we can all die of hunger!

  • Wils - 2011-04-21 13:33

    Malema at the mature age of 13, armed with a 9mm pistol explains a lot!!! Malema at the age of 30 surrounded by thugs with machine guns doesn't seem to have matured much since then!!! ANC youth league hijacked by a bunch of bullies and thugs!!! Surely the youth deserve better than a bunch of old immature men representing them? Nothing wrong with song only with Malema!

      Benny66 - 2011-04-22 09:59

      Of course he has "matured" since then. From a 9mm pistol to machine guns! From holding the gun himself to having his hired thugs holding the guns. AND now the stakes are much higher From a revolution to change some thing bad (apartheid) to a revolution to change some thing good (a country largely reconciled)!!

  • za101 - 2011-04-21 13:34

    Malema says he was “disappointed” when former president Nelson Mandela said the ANC would insist on an election date from the former National Party regime. “We thought he (Mandela) would say, ‘now is the time to attack’.”

      GoFish - 2011-04-21 13:51

      And doesn't that just explain it all. Don't think he'll rest until he can "shoot a boer". What a "afrikaans box" he is.

  • spcwzrd - 2011-04-21 14:11

    This statement of his gets my full support : "If the spirit is the same here, certain things... will die a natural death because we appreciate one another. And it doesn't need a court order," said the ANC Youth League president.

      DW - 2011-04-21 15:27

      And this is what his lawyers told him to say so that it would all go away and he can carry on with his hate speech.

  • Woseck - 2011-04-21 14:24

    It will be a big mistake to settle and debate. This must be followed through and a decision must be made. If they settle and debate, no one will win this piece of work South Africa dug itself into now.

  • mike - 2011-04-21 14:25

    if you are sick & Tired of Malema & friends...join the face group group called 'The May 1st South African Uprising' to put an end once & 4all to this madness...

      Notbuyinface - 2011-04-21 15:44

      Dreamer, you think 50 racist who comment on this site constitute an uprising. At best this is a sobbing site.

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-04-21 17:15

      A group of dagga smokers

      Koos - 2011-04-22 11:28

      @are you on tik or you are too posh for tik in that case you just had some line of charlie,Uprising my ass,you will be crushed, you will not win,we will not tolerate the narrow minded racist trying to cos kak in our country,you guys should just forget cos you have no chance my china.

  • Yasr - 2011-04-21 15:33

    Akuna Matata

  • Kaizo - 2011-04-21 23:29

    Just ban the damn song and lets move on PLEASE!

      elia.mafetiko.maluleke - 2011-04-23 12:32

      follow cour proceeding be educated then you will understnd that the song is needed

  • lenand40 - 2011-04-21 23:49

    How do you take someone to court, and then debate at the same time? It does not seem like a genuine pursuit of a solution, rather grand standing. Perhaps after the elections, everyone will come to their senses

  • George - 2011-04-23 07:09

    But if they settle are they going to also remove streets and towns named after apartheid killers like Verwoerd and malan Just imagine a street in Germany named after hitler. Are they also going to Remove apartheid symbols such as the afrikaner apartheid monuments in pretoria.

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