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Shaik asks Zuma for his R2m

2012-01-22 14:27

Johannesburg - The presidency has declined to comment on a Sunday news report that convicted fraudster Schabir Shaik wants a presidential pardon and the repayment of a claimed R2m loan to President Jacob Zuma.

"There is no comment. The issue of the pardon application has been responded to by the ministry of justice... that's the only issue we are commenting on, not the others," Zuma's spokesperson Mac Maharaj said on Sunday.

Shaik told the Sunday Independent newspaper that he had not been re-paid and wants what he maintained was a R2m loan to Zuma, who according to a court finding was bribed by Shaik.

It was believed that the initial loan amount of R2.5m, primarily used for Zuma's children's upkeep and educational needs, was part of a loan agreement drawn up by an attorney, the newspaper said.

Only R500 000 of that has reportedly been paid to Shaik by Zuma.

Shaik also reportedly wants his presidential pardon. It has been more than three years since he applied for it.

He said he had not heard from Zuma since he became president despite their being in contact before that.

Shaik told the newspaper he felt used and let down by Zuma who was once a close friend.

"Now that Shaik is a dried up well, the Guptas are the flavour. I have been used and abused," he is quoted as saying.

He said he was concerned that nothing had yet come of his pardon application and feared he was running out of time. Shaik's application was currently before the department of justice.

Department spokesperson Tlali Tlali said it would then be sent to the president for his consideration and decision, the report said.

In 2005, the Durban High Court sentenced Shaik to 15 years imprisonment for fraud and corruption. His sentence effectively ends in 2021. On March 2009, Shaik was released on parole with a terminal illness but sparked controversy and accusations of special treatment because of his political connections. He then applied for a presidential pardon.

The Supreme Court of Appeals will next month rule on an application by the Democratic Alliance that challenges the National Prosecuting Authority's decision to halt Zuma's prosecution on fraud and corruption charges related to Shaik's case in 2009.

Comments
  • jack.oosthuysen - 2012-01-22 14:33

    When someone owes you money you work through an attorney, not the media. Do think that Zuma will not adhere to any of his requests.No pardon and no repayment.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-22 14:49

      Totally and where is this 'loan agreement'. Surely a loan agreement would have stopped allegations of corruption, after all a loan is legal...

      Squeegee - 2012-01-22 15:39

      Zuma has a problem. If he says it was a loan, he must pay up; if he says it was a bribe - well he can't do that without a whole world of new hassle.

      RE - 2012-01-22 15:40

      all thiefs..

      Spyker - 2012-01-22 15:58

      Ha, ha, ha, ha - da bucks or I spill da beans... The latest course in the ANC's political university for drop-outs and common-criminals: HOW-TO-TURN-ONE-OF-THE-MOST-PROLIFIC-ECONOMIES-IN-THE-WORLD-EVER-INTO-A-BANANA-REPUBLIC-IN-LESS-THAN-TWO-DECADES 101.

      rbphiri - 2012-01-22 15:59

      Sorry MR Schabir Shaik but the money owed to you was used to hire a second plane for the President.

      rbphiri - 2012-01-22 16:25

      Guys please support me, I'm having a JUNK sale, the following items are available Shaik, Zuma, Julius, Maharaj and many more.

      Travis Vermaak - 2012-01-22 16:26

      Maybe its part of Zuma's plan, to play it off as if it was a loan. When it goes to court and he will 'somehow' produce the money. That way both get off relatively light. Anybody wanna loan me 2 bar, ill pay it back I swear!

      Godfrey - 2012-01-22 16:31

      @Squeegee I agree that Zuma sit with a problem. However so does Shaik's if Zuma does not win (ANC presidence) and is re-called, he could head back to jail.

      Sharon - 2012-01-22 17:23

      awwwwww give the man a tissue!!

      John - 2012-01-22 18:43

      Schaik is a liar; he plays golf, where he fights people; he goes to mosque, where he fights people. I have got no problem with Zuma paying him the 2 million; its between thieves. But someone must charge him with all his costs from trials, prison and hospitals and other related expenses, 4 Million plus!

      Ian - 2012-01-22 19:39

      I wonder, did he ask him nicely, or was it, "hey baba, shaya taful, or I will tell the truth"......

      Jerhone - 2012-01-22 21:07

      amazing he's back from his deathbed now all he thinks about is money the spineless bastard, thought he'd be living next to the Gangis by now

      JP - 2012-01-22 22:06

      just another drama episode in S.A politics !!!!!!!!!!!

      George - 2012-01-23 03:53

      Shaik is a sick man and he IS getting worse now. Soon gone now this has come up Getting like the wild west, Money or your life RIP later

      nasheenar - 2012-01-23 07:57

      So is it possible he will be sent back to jail for asking for this money mppphhhh...........One can wish. As for this president of ours, quite a piece of work this one.

  • Consolata Connie Lodya - 2012-01-22 14:39

    hahaha...shaik was zuma's mistress or one of his many wives and now feels like a w*ore cos he doesnt get presents from his lover anymore.

      Francois - 2012-01-22 15:00

      Consolata, are perhaps insinuating that Schaik got screwed by Zuma?

      Consolata Connie Lodya - 2012-01-22 15:40

      @ francois...hahaha, nice one. Thats exactly what i'm saying!

      Piet - 2012-01-22 16:11

      Love this...bring the popcorn

      alfie.dunn - 2012-01-22 16:20

      You're a poet and you don't know it...

      Consolata Connie Lodya - 2012-01-22 16:41

      Shaik it off, shaik it off, its hard to dance with the devil on your back so shaik him off. #florence and the machine

      Jou - 2012-01-22 18:04

      Hey Zooma where is my small loan I gave you bra'? I know it's pocket change to you and your makkers in the new regime bud, it's just that I need it cos I have a small problem...I'm addicted to wealth.

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-01-22 14:40

    The arrogance of this man knows no bounds.

      ronald.stilianou - 2012-01-22 15:38

      both of them!

      Heila - 2012-01-22 18:41

      What man are you referring to, Zuma ? Yes I do agree, he is arrogant.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-22 19:10

      Both of them

  • Mike - 2012-01-22 15:00

    If this wouldn't be so sad one could actually laugh - our fantastic President could not run his household on a Ministers Salary - and now "attempts" to run the country.... well we all see how "successful" that is.... And in regards to Shaikh - shouldn't he be shipped back to Westville Prison... oh but with R 2 Million owed by the "Honorable" President we now can see why he is playing golf, having his favorite Pizza and still smoking his cheap cigars...

      Johan - 2012-01-22 15:09

      WHERE THERE IS SMOKE, THERE IS FIRE.

      rbphiri - 2012-01-22 16:19

      Where there is a golf course...there is a Shaik

      Juan - 2012-01-22 16:41

      Yeah 750 odd corruption charges all of a sudden dissappears due to a technicality. I'd say there's a helluva lot of smoke

      George - 2012-01-23 08:23

      First time in world History that a member of the public will de sueing the presedent of a country for money that was lent to him or given. This can only get better. Keep watching folks

  • Orapeleng Molosiwa - 2012-01-22 15:00

    Huuuuuhahhaaaaaakgggggkgfff,hahaaaaa,Roll the tape, Let the games begin...!

  • Trevor - 2012-01-22 15:12

    I hope Zuma screws him on both THEN, then truth will come out and Shaik is right, I don't like the guy but he is right, Zuma used him now the Guptaps are the flavour of the day...Julius also found out the hard way, Zuma will serve ANY MASTER who pays him....he's just like any African Dictator...

      Yar - 2012-01-22 15:55

      There is no honour among thieves.

      Jerhone - 2012-01-22 21:12

      especialy the chinks

  • Garreth - 2012-01-22 15:16

    If he can get a Presidential pardon, so can Boesak who spent time in jail for covering for the ANC elite.

  • Alva - 2012-01-22 15:16

    Chickens are coming home to roost!

  • lungile.madikazi - 2012-01-22 15:17

    In Politics there are no permanent friends.Why he demands his loan back now when there is no response to his pardon application? Is he angry or what? Why he chose to use the media instead of his Lawyers? In Xhosa we say ""kukhona okushaya amanzi la"".The truth is about to come out about the WEAPONS.

      lee.ferreira - 2012-01-22 19:28

      And about time would you not say? The whole country has been hoodwinked long enough!!

      Jerhone - 2012-01-22 21:15

      the media blackout will come before the weapon trial, thats why showerhead conned us about an arms trial, all smoke and mirrors ANC style

      Sterling - 2012-01-23 02:02

      In the US there is an old saying that everything comes out in the washing. Zuma has a conflit of interest with his dealing with Shaik and he should come clean with his relations with this guy. I know a lot of the ANC die hearts don't want to believe it but, Zuma played a role in getting Shaik out of prison.

  • Belinda - 2012-01-22 15:18

    wake up and grow up Shaik

  • gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-01-22 15:25

    Hahahaha....ha..... ha! This is so laughable. Zuma should just pay him in babanas.

  • Sithando - 2012-01-22 15:31

    This could only mean, Zuma is not a corrupt man if he was he wouldn't loan like this,even from the bandits?

      Sterling - 2012-01-23 02:04

      People don't give unsecured loans unless they something in return.

  • eddiebant - 2012-01-22 15:32

    Still a brother in high position that can help.

  • Bernard - 2012-01-22 15:32

    It all sounds like a big game

  • Patrick - 2012-01-22 15:44

    zuma must pay back the money, we all need to tighten our belt

  • Moeketsi - 2012-01-22 15:45

    Fulfill your promises Mr President.

      Johan - 2012-01-22 17:17

      BLOODY THIEF.

  • velilejonathan.williams - 2012-01-22 15:48

    Yha neh!

  • Ian - 2012-01-22 15:50

    wow, this sure is a long terminal illness, most terminal patients would be dead by now, must be the shaikalitis medicine LOL, shaik you prick

      Jerhone - 2012-01-22 21:19

      I bet the dead minister beetroot would have loved to know what keeps Shaik and selebi alive seeing they were both at deaths door and she didn't make it

  • Deon - 2012-01-22 16:01

    Presidential pardon? This is now clear that he was never so ill as pretended and need to get rid of the medical parole thing.

  • Sylvia - 2012-01-22 16:04

    I thought Shaik was on his last legs three years ago. A miraculous recovery indeed. He can kiss that R2m goodbye, but I wonder what revenge he's now planning. Interesting times we're living in.

      rbphiri - 2012-01-22 16:29

      It's no suprise becoz snakes dont have legs.

      Juan - 2012-01-22 16:44

      Well I hope he will let some of Zuma's skelletons out of the closet.

  • Brent - 2012-01-22 16:06

    SO WILL THE SHAIK'S MAKE THE PRESEDENT DANCE?

      rbphiri - 2012-01-22 16:31

      The Luther Vandross remix: Dance with my father who owes me R2m again

  • Piet - 2012-01-22 16:12

    Now class, waht do we learn from this? Criminals always turn on each other...bring the popcorn, this is gona turn interesting.

      raath - 2012-01-23 14:32

      Yeah, there is no honour among thieves.

  • Larry - 2012-01-22 16:14

    Now the knife is going in. I would imagine that as he did not get a pardon, someone has made him an offer too good to refuse.

  • Solomon Mathoma - 2012-01-22 16:17

    They were once partners in the wrong doing.

  • christian.helberg - 2012-01-22 16:21

    if he was truly on medical parole, why would he ask for a presidential pardon. what has he recovered from his terminal illness?

  • ReunionofIntelligentMinds - 2012-01-22 16:22

    Shaiky - write a tell all book and you will have your 2 million back in not time. Being permanently @ home lack of time should not be a factor.

  • Elkieta - 2012-01-22 16:31

    Here it comes.Zuma has a problem now.Shaik is tired of waiting....comeon Zuma pay or Shaik will spill the beans.

  • Michelle Vlok - 2012-01-22 16:38

    snakes

  • klay.martens - 2012-01-22 16:43

    Strangly active for a terminally ill bugger, aint he? What a twit. And what a blatant misuse of power and priveledge to escape punishment. Terminally ill, my eye!

      lee.ferreira - 2012-01-22 19:35

      Strange that this should come about when we all know there is a plan to oust Zuma. shaik is not clever enough, so who is behind it??

  • ben.mekwa - 2012-01-22 16:59

    I smell rat rather not fish i knew it will come up some time

  • lekgolo1 - 2012-01-22 17:09

    I THINK SHAIK HAS GOT A SECRET TO SHARE WITH WORLD ABOUT HIM AND ZUMA,SO LETS WAIT AND SEE SOMTHING BIG IS COMING I TELL YOU

      Gail - 2012-01-23 13:46

      Where is Julius to kill this guy and die for his President when you need him ey Juju? Another one who talks the talk but cannot walk it.

  • John - 2012-01-22 17:09

    I thought Shaik was dead!!!!

      Gregory Jurgens - 2012-01-23 07:29

      Yeah he is suppose be by now. We where assured of that when they took him home from jail half dead in a ambulance.

  • pws69 - 2012-01-22 17:11

    Shame. Shaik didn't get breakfast and taxi fare, and now he is crying. ROTFLMAO. I'm loving it.

  • Sithembele - 2012-01-22 17:17

    go to hell shaik; this not for us and the media; it is for you and your boyfriend whom you still together

  • Enlightened - 2012-01-22 17:22

    We are missing the point here. Shabir Shaik is a convicted criminal whom is presumably out on medical parole. His general behavior is irrefutable proof that he is fit to go back to jail and pay his debt to society. As for the debt, We have seen our president mangle his way out of bigger ones than this: flying up and down to prevent documents that prove his involvement in corruption cases, the simple fact that he was in court on rape charges. Getting out of this one should be small fry for him. Actually, if I was Mr Shaik, I'd be very careful not to choke Our president too much, he might just get hot under the collar and have him put back i jail just to shut him up once and for all

      Gregory Jurgens - 2012-01-22 18:36

      What does a half dead man want a pardon and 2 million rand for.

  • Ken - 2012-01-22 17:38

    seems that Shaik may be trying to extort money from Zuma, could land him back where he belongs.

  • KCorsar - 2012-01-22 17:58

    Excuse me, a loan is a personal matter between parties = typically called a contract. How is the State one of those parties; to be asking for a pardon. If Zuma did in fact that this money, it was as a citizen; not a President. Shaik you are a convicted felon, out on medical parole that shouldn't be; you belong behind bars as per your sentence, then we wouldnt have to read drivel like this.

  • Mike Bosman - 2012-01-22 18:13

    Clowns only in africa

  • Irene - 2012-01-22 18:19

    He will probably have to wait until Zuma has won some of the cases due in court! Is'nt he suing Zapiro of the Sunday Times for millions, for the cartoon depicting him with a shower-head on his head?? And poor Shabir really deserves a pardon???

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-01-22 18:33

    The 2 million should go to the people it was stolen from.

  • MikeFraser - 2012-01-22 19:12

    Don't mess with terminally ill people. They always come back to haunt you!!!

  • harmonious - 2012-01-22 19:22

    Clearly this shows that "our president" is not honesty, does our hard earned tax have to pay for this? I sometimes regret to be a South African, #Zuma uyi sgebengu# hahahaha why don't you pay him money?

  • Daan - 2012-01-22 19:35

    Easy. Lend from Peter to pay Paul.

  • hannesw1 - 2012-01-22 20:04

    Dear Mr Shaik. Did you for one moment thought about your ridiculous claims? We just had to fork out R100 million to gorge the rich and famous. One trip to USA cost me R13 million because my second hand plane is giving trouble. I still have to pay the police chief sitting at home and the previous one's medical costs. To make matters worse I must also pay the head of the NPA who's now also sitting at home. When last have you travelled on interior roads in the country? Did you perhaps saw the potholes that must be fixed by me? And the street lights? Do you realize that Escom, health services and education needs my money too? I mean really, Mr Shaik, I've organised you a nice medical parole and now you want your money back? What about the job to your brother and all your government contracts? You are really a spoiled little brat! Your ex pal - J Zuma. P.S I'll try and get R2 million from my beloved tax payers just keep your big mouth shut!

  • Daaivark - 2012-01-22 20:16

    Shaik is a BILLIONAIRE. Asking for repayment of R 2 million points to an ulterior motive or some sinister underhanded plan.

  • neil.vdbijl - 2012-01-22 20:19

    maybe Zuma can sell one of his planes :) oh wait.. it's actually the tax payers planes..

  • Pawel - 2012-01-22 21:12

    I'm sure there is enough TAX money that can pay Zuma's outstanding dept..

  • chris.piro2 - 2012-01-22 21:45

    Mafia style

  • Henri James Christie - 2012-01-22 22:22

    Never a dull moment!! The mind boggles? Terminally ill, the doctor has obviously asked for his payment

  • meshack.letswalo - 2012-01-22 23:25

    its true that there's no honour among thieves