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Shivambu files papers in Equality Court

2011-04-13 14:14

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League spokesperson Floyd Shivambu has filed papers with the Equality Court in response to a hate speech lawsuit brought against him by Independent Newspapers journalist Carien Du Plessis.

This was in response to a court case that started in the Equality Court last Tuesday in which Shivambu, is accused of hate speech for allegedly calling Du Plessis "stupid" and a "white bitch" in text messages.

The Equality Court last week postponed the matter, setting April 13 as the date for Shivambu's lawyers to file papers in response to the allegations.

The complaint dates back to May 18, 2010.

Du Plessis alleged that in an SMS exchange between herself and Shivambu, he wrote: "You must learn to respect people. I don't comment on YCL [Young Communist League] issues and please stop being stupid."

Personal attack

He also allegedly wrote: "I wouldn't want to earn respect from white bitches... so dream on." The ANCYL launched a public personal attack on Du Plessis last week.

In an e-mail to the entire media lists of the youth league and the African National Congress, Du Plessis was described as a liar with "tendencies", without saying what "tendencies" it meant.

Another ANCYL spokesperson, Magdalene Moonsamy, e-mailed the statement about Du Plessis to media houses.

"The ANCYL is aware that such allegations are lies and false and confirmed that at no stage has Cde Floyd Shivambu sent her such text messages. Those who know Carien Du Plessis will be aware of her tendencies and that the allegations that she apportions to Cde Floyd are indeed false and will soon be exposed," said Moonsamy.

The ANCYL said the case against Shivambu was "once again agitation through the media to spread lies against the leadership of the ANCYL".

Moonsamy, at the end of the statement about Du Plessis, adds: "We are aware that the case is sub judice and that facts will be presented to the Equality Court and hence, the ANCYL will not entertain the issue further until it [is] before the Equality Court."

No comment

Du Plessis referred all queries to her lawyer Okyerebea Ampofo-Anti, who said her client declined to comment on a public personal attack launched against her by the ANCYL.

"My client prefers not to comment on the content of the media statement issued by the ANCYL or the appropriateness of issuing such a statement.

"She stands by her complaint and looks forward to having the merits of the case decided in the appropriate forum, which is the Equality Court," she said.

Du Plessis wants an order declaring that the labels allegedly applied to her by Shivambu constituted hate speech, an order requiring him to issue an unconditional written apology, payment of R100 000 damages and the costs of the suit.

Comments
  • Moi1980 - 2011-04-13 14:18

    I very much doubt that she will get far with this. More's the pity

  • willieman - 2011-04-13 14:31

    Floyd you insult a woman and you see it fit to go to court to defend your nonsense.My brother swallow your pride and apologise

      Moi1980 - 2011-04-13 14:37

      Dont forget, he doesn't see her as a woman...all he sees is a white bee-itch and therefore, he will feel completely justified in his remarks.

      Nebkad - 2011-04-13 14:43

      @Willie Do you have ANY prove that the allegations against him are true?

      DW - 2011-04-13 15:00

      Nebkad, I doubt that anyone would be stupid enough to go to court if they had no evidence. I am sure that she saved the relevant sms and it will be presented as evidence in court. Do YOU have any proof that these allegations are false? Are you calling the journalist a liar?

      kungfupanda - 2011-04-13 16:08

      Certain cultures in this country by default treat women like rubbish. That's why we have so many cases of rape, because men are raised in their communities to disrespect women as part of their culture. This is what we have as rulers of our country. Shocking!!!

  • Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-04-13 14:34

    Since when is a mere spokesperson leadership in the ANCYL? Just asking. As far as I know he is the mouthpiece for the leadership, nothing more and nothing less. Not allowed to speak his own mind (if he has one to speak of), that is not in his jobdescription.

      The-man-who - 2011-04-13 14:47

      He is the Secretary General of the ANCYL not just a mere spokesperson.

  • Frikkie1234 - 2011-04-13 14:37

    Well time to get Vodacom/MTN to release those phone records...I love how Floyd is a comrade....comrade in what, and affiliated to what army? None of the ANCYL was part of the “struggle” (I suppose if you don’t have and struggle-cred you have to have a big mouth, teeth optional) and what is this revolution they keep yapping on about, this is not Cuba or Russia last I checked my passport it said and I quote “Republic of South Africa”…

      Pundit - 2011-04-13 19:11

      The revolution is in progress meneer. That is why you are squealing so loudly.

  • GeneralCS - 2011-04-13 14:37

    Some people just aren't cut out to be public figures. It does however demonstrate the attitude of the ANCYL... they don't give a damn about the future of SA for they still and always will live in the past.

      Nebkad - 2011-04-13 14:44

      @General From the article above, can you quote any line, paragraph to support your claim?

      GeneralCS - 2011-04-13 14:50

      Well calling someone a "white bitch" amongst other things is more than enough evidence to support my claim. You'd have to be morally twisted not to see that as a problem.

  • Zupta - 2011-04-13 14:41

    Well done Carien this is very brave of u to stand up to bullies. They have no right to call u names. Keep the pressure we have to change bad behaviour of all in SA. Lets start with ANC yl . We will support u all the way. It's time we lead SA.

      Tseleng - 2011-04-13 14:45

      Not in africa, I don't want to mention SA.

  • v3 - 2011-04-13 14:47

    Next installment: Du Plessis sues the ANCYL and Moonsamy for The ANCYL is aware that such allegations are *lies* and false and confirmed that at no stage has Cde Floyd Shivambu sent her such text messages. Those who know Carien Du Plessis *will be aware of her tendencies* and that the allegations that she apportions to Cde Floyd are indeed false and will soon be exposed" Perhaps the psychotics at the ANCYL cannot tell the difference between a tender, a tendency and tending to the truth. ;)

  • SamuelMabena - 2011-04-13 14:50

    Floyd is a white-hating racist. He represents everything that is wrong with racism in South Africa.

  • SamuelMabena - 2011-04-13 14:50

    Floyd is a white-hating racist. He represents everything that is wrong with racism in South Africa.

  • skulldude70 - 2011-04-13 14:50

    Shivambu IS a bitch..........

      Frikkie1234 - 2011-04-13 15:11

      I wonder if Julius give him taxi money in the morning too!?

      Warren - 2011-04-13 19:48

      Yep... he is Dilema's bitch!

  • Stella - 2011-04-13 16:00

    He also allegedly wrote: "I wouldn't want to earn respect from white bitches... so dream on. It is because none of our so called leaders has respect for women - not Malema and not Zuma.

  • capetonian - 2011-04-13 16:02

    Whose paying these pricks legal bills, by the way?

  • Mundu - 2011-04-13 18:12

    Another black racist turd.

  • Chibuli - 2011-04-13 18:48

    You can see he's a junior politician - foul-mouthed, uncouth, uncultured, arrogant, ignorant. He fits in with the image of the ANCYL (League of Piccanins).

  • Rudi - 2011-04-14 10:53

    Go check out Hayibo.com The article is called "white bitch calls Shivambu a woof, Grrr."

  • Michael - 2011-07-13 07:10

    Here's a few words that are associated with the ANCYL and the ANC. Government, Racism, hate speech, "she enjoyed herself" while being raped, arms deal, wholesale barefaced corruption from top to bottom, oppress and muzzle the media, unpaid land grabs, nationalisation, vegetables and vitamins cure aids, showers stop AIDS when you've raped someone, NO service delivery. Here are a few words NOT associated with the ANCYL and ANC: success, education, service delivery, accountability, govt ethics, respect, modest spending, brotherhood, integrity. s'funny, not long ago, they were angry at whites for leaving. why? should we stay here to bear the brunt of this irresponsibility? If I wasn't on a South Africa passport I wouldn't be writing this. I wouldn't be aware of any of it.

  • Vic - 2011-11-02 09:51

    Shivambu, try and wriggle your way out of this one. Engage brain, before makink such remarks.

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