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'Shoot the boer' sung outside ET court

2012-05-22 11:23

Ventersdorp - Supporters of the pair accused of killing rightwing leader Eugene Terre'Blanche started singing "shoot the boer" outside the High Court sitting in Ventersdorp on Tuesday.

Crowds had gathered outside the court to wait to hear the fate of Chris Mahlangu and an 18-year-old youth accused of hacking the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (AWB) leader to death on his North West farm in April 2010.

People were dancing and singing, "Viva, Mahlangu, Viva" and "Dubul' iBhunu".

Some carried placards reading, "Down with the AWB", "Thank you, Mathangu" and "Waar is jou onderbroek ET [Where is your underwear, ET]".

Also outside court were AWB members, clad in camouflage uniforms and sporting flags and banners in support of Terre'Blanche.

Some of their banners read: "AWB stood the test of time" and "Long live the AWB".

Members of the rightwing Gelofte Volk, an AWB splinter group, were also present. Leader Andre Visagie said he had mixed feelings about what to expect. "We are not really very optimistic that justice will be done."

Police and police vans lined the streets surrounding the court. Heavily armed officers stopped family members and media from entering the court until the last minute.

Members of the community were also gathered outside the court. Everyone was warmly dressed to fight off the winter cold which has taken hold of the North West town.

Both accused have pleaded not guilty to murder, housebreaking, and robbery with aggravating circumstances. Mahlangu has claimed he acted in self-defence.

The youth has denied involvement in the crime.

Mahlangu and the youth declined to testify and, in April, the trial was postponed for judgment.

"It is probably going to be a long judgment. So prepare yourselves for a long judgment," Judge John Horn told the State and the defence.

The youth turned 18 shortly after the proceedings were postponed.

On Monday, North West police said it was prepared for large crowds which might gather outside the court.

"Based on previous confrontations between the two groups outside the court police are expecting even worse situations than the previous ones and are up to the task," Brigadier Thulane Ngubane said.

 

Comments
  • Sharon - 2012-05-22 11:26

    I rest my case. Can someone please chuck some paint on them??????

      JasonMichelleVanderbijlpark - 2012-05-22 11:29

      Racist idiots!!! How can you still be allowed to sing that song?

      Eva - 2012-05-22 11:30

      or petrol with a lit match ... but that would be provoking hatred and violence, now wouldn't it ...?

      E=MC2 - 2012-05-22 11:36

      justified racism more than likely... what would happen if whites started singing shoot the blacks...???

      Peter - 2012-05-22 11:37

      And all those with old SA flags.

      Bryan - 2012-05-22 11:55

      Just 5 minutes.... That's all I would need with this person called MATHATA... Racist little F**K wit!!!

      Chez - 2012-05-22 12:05

      @Sledge. so you condemn a racist by making racist comments? Can you not see that you are just as bad?

      Rob - 2012-05-22 12:20

      Cant understand the mentality of these people. We are trying our best to keep the engine running for them to want us dead. We go to work everyday to support our families and workers ( I employ 65 ). Why would you want to shoot the hand that feeds you. Killing all the farmers is just braindead stupid. I feel sorry for them as I will soon be gone elswhere.

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-22 12:41

      While Africa burns with hatred, the Northern Hemisphere are going further and further towards becoming what we in Africa will end up calling them as "gods"... While we fret and whine and hate each other with words and paintings, a newly privately owned spacecraft has opened the doors to a new industry : privately owned space services. For those that need to rise above barbarian feelings, read: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18154937 Peace...

      sabongam - 2012-05-22 12:42

      This "Kill the Boer" k*k song really should be banned for life. It's obviously hate speech which promotes the annihilation of the Boer/Afrikaner nation...My thoughts were that the new SA("rainbow nation") meant that we are starting afresh and forgetting our turbulent past and trying to live in peace and harmony by uilding a better future...One in which we can live tolerate and learn to live with each other...Clearly that's not the case...Just like the late ex-ANCYL president,Peter Mokaba's "one settler,one bullet" slogan was as hateful. There was an outcry beacuase of the reaction - when some whites came up with "one settler, one taxi" .What would the reaction be if a white person was accused of killing a black person and other white people came to support him and started shouting outside the court, "Shoot the Black/s"? Obviously they would be labelled racists...Doesn't that make those blacks singing/shouting this slogan, racist themselves? It works both ways guys...

      Richard - 2012-05-22 12:46

      A court order was issued banning the singing of the song. This now becomes contempt of court. Arrest all the idiots a slap a R5000 on each and every one of them. Maybe the cANCer will bail the transgressors out and then take a very hard look at promoting the song on another occasions.

      Michael - 2012-05-22 13:24

      @sledge Stop derogatory remarks or should I add that they are racist? U wonder why there's so much animosity towards whites! To people like you blak equals uneducated and a thief? Why generalize?

      James - 2012-05-22 13:39

      The Black Panthers in the US spew killing whites too just in more imaginative ways.

      Cornelius - 2012-05-22 13:43

      The irony of it all... there is no more space in jail :-). Let them sing it... let them kill us... I would rather be dead and in a better place than living my entire life with hatred and revenge towards another, it's unhealthy :-). Sad that a country with so much potential, is drawn down with individuals like these

      ttshabalala - 2012-05-22 14:09

      There's so much racial tension in this country that even some of us that were beginning to see the short comings of the ruling party and contemplating voting other parties are beginning to get a sense that we will be bringing apartheid back if we do. With all this racial tension, it doesn't matter what the ANC does or doesn't do. I am not making a decision to be led by a white party. Whites in SA are too angry. I know there's a lot that ANC is not doing right but when I read the comments on this forum, it is clear that we're not fighting a political, but a racial battle. And guess what? This is what most black people feel at the moment, and we are in the majority. There we go: now we know what will be happening every time we vote, as long as we are a country devided on racial lines. Scary!

      blipsie - 2012-05-22 14:19

      @ Tsabhalala. You dont maybe think the ANC is to blame for a lot of the racial tension? Sorry to say, they are the main stirrers and you for one have fallen for it.

      blipsie - 2012-05-22 14:46

      Well, according to legend, the ANC bussed in the crowd previously, so they probably did it again. They're also footing the bill for the defense. Of course they wont be arresting anybody for singing their beloved song. I think it's time to accept that the ANC makes up the rules as they go along. And why not? Nobody is challenging them, they keep getting away with it.

  • trudiroos.potter - 2012-05-22 11:27

    Hkgk.........what about some black paint? Apparently that solves all problems in this country. Paint it black..........

      Frank - 2012-05-22 11:59

      Time to burn this cotton catapult they use as a flag and refuse to be pulled into singing the stupid first half of the anthem. They are spoiling for it........

      zukisanim - 2012-05-22 13:19

      Stupid comment

      Jason - 2012-05-22 14:28

      The problem for the ANC is the DA is getting stronger, so they will try fuel the racism card to keep the majority voting for the anc.

  • phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 11:27

    geez...can't this two groups just fight a little on an open ground without gaming riffles and stones. words alone aren't enough for a wrestling fan like me.

      Stille - 2012-05-22 11:33

      *rifles *on open

      JasonMichelleVanderbijlpark - 2012-05-23 15:40

      *these

  • Lizette - 2012-05-22 11:28

    If they keep on singing shoot the boer they must be prepared for more than stone throwing

  • Sechaba30 - 2012-05-22 11:36

    God help South Africa, there is too much hatred in this country.

      monkinsane - 2012-05-22 11:58

      Quote: "gareth - hat's why the song has been classified as hate speech and is a punishable offence! " DSo you really think they're gonna get punished for singing it? Wake up!

  • Wilhelm - 2012-05-22 11:37

    Real mature. It is people this that who believes in apartheid not whites. Soooo, I guess everything Madiba fought for is being destroyed by the same people who were supposed to make a difference and bring unity in South Africa. But I guess that was asking to much for people who don't go past grade 4 at school.

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-05-22 11:40

    WTF?????????????????

  • john.dorian.1042 - 2012-05-22 11:40

    Anyone get a sense that tensions are escalating in SA at the minute??

      nickey.vanrensburg - 2012-05-22 11:47

      Oh yes it is. I'll be VERY surprised if we do see an election come 2014.

      Eva - 2012-05-22 11:54

      So many have said it's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better. It's definitely getting worse, lets hope it gets better! But that much longed for upward slope is note going to happen tomorrow! Lets hope our children never has to know what a civil war is ... and I hope I'm being overly dramatic ...

      John - 2012-05-22 12:19

      @ Eva, I’m sorry but you will find out what Civil war is long before your children is grown up. Sorry to say that but the writing is on the wall. We are very close to that in this country and it is only going to get worse.

      gert.nell - 2012-05-22 12:35

      Its about time, we are sick of the real racists...blacks

      Jason - 2012-05-22 14:22

      Maybe in other provinces but Western Cape is just fine thanks.

      Heinz - 2012-05-22 14:24

      Yes and it should. We can't eat their cr@p forever.

  • anthonyangiev - 2012-05-22 11:40

    Anyone have a petrol bomb handy??? I'm so gatvol of these racist remarks!

  • salome.scholtz.1 - 2012-05-22 11:41

    They say white people are racists, we never sang songs like this!! This is supporting and promoting murder!

      Gee - 2012-05-22 11:45

      Baie waar...ons sing net bobbejaan klim die berg!

      Sean - 2012-05-22 12:40

      This doesn`t matter to the ANC ! According to them you can`t be racist if you are black ! You can murder , rape and steal, that is also fine if you black ! What a f@cking joke !!

  • Shirley - 2012-05-22 11:43

    Tyical double standards racism,which is abundantly clear in this country! Watch the news-nothing will be done,however if this was a white group it would be dealt with swiftly and seen as shocking! Shame on the powers that be for allowing blatant racism inciting violence!!!

      Eva - 2012-05-22 11:59

      and it would be blasted all over international news channels! and the world will blame WHITES for throwing the country back into the dark ages!

  • Jaundre - 2012-05-22 11:47

    I fear that today will be known in SA as the day Jungle Justice takes over if our actual justice system does not make the correct finding. People, black or white that act within the law belongs in society, people who live outside of it belong in prison.

      Sean - 2012-05-22 12:42

      Jaundre , the problem here is , this country is run by a bunch of incompetent imbeciles !

      blipsie - 2012-05-22 14:50

      I actually pity the judge. No matter what he decides he will be hated.

  • Peter - 2012-05-22 11:47

    violence breeds violence it seems.

  • Timothy - 2012-05-22 11:52

    Who are the racists now?

      Rudi - 2012-05-22 12:55

      everybody.. i think.

  • Corne - 2012-05-22 11:52

    Mathata - please go back to the bush and try to learn some manners or your place for that matter.. please do not pollute this newspaper with your racist comments..

  • Druu - 2012-05-22 11:53

    All I c is racist comments, why can't we be people and just be people. Even the colours we claim we are not correct. No one is black not white.

      Bomb - 2012-05-22 12:01

      Those of us that try and believe this are unfortunately in the minority. The government fuels discrimination and racial hatred with their statements and policies. Whenever there is an opportunity, they use it to incite further hate between black/white. This country will never get to the stage where we will live in harmony with each other, it just wont happen if government is not willing to address racial hate in active manners.

      randomhero6661 - 2012-05-22 12:05

      humans are stupid that's why!

      Sean - 2012-05-22 12:48

      @Druu and Bomb - Both of you are 200% right ! I blame Zuma for not shutting up Malema earlier . Blacks are getting fustrated because the government f@cks this country up , all empty promises since 1994 and whites get upset becuase everything gets blamed on f@cken apartheid !!

      phil.vandeventer - 2012-05-22 17:14

      dude are you blind

  • Bear - 2012-05-22 11:53

    Morons... its because of people like them(people who sing "shoot the boer") that the AWB will exist for all time. As they continue to provoke the AWB more and more people will join the AWB.

  • Thamsanqa - 2012-05-22 11:54

    I thought this song was banned? I'm black and I really did not like that man but in order to move on we need to stop with the double standards. If that offended you just complain to the SHRC

      Chez - 2012-05-22 12:17

      @Thamsanqa. Sad that i had to go so far down the comment section to find someone not gripped but this madness. I am white and had no time for ET or the AWB. Also no time for racism and racist songs. Viva S.A viva

      Felix - 2012-05-22 12:25

      Unfortunately it is all being instigated to protect the ruling parties votes.

      tyroymike3 - 2012-05-22 12:49

      Just when one feels civilisation has come to SA - we have to read all these barbaric and irrational comments by the so - called citizens of SA . As a famous poet once said ' if this is how the Queen treats her prisoners , she does not deserve to have them ! ' We have a wonderful country filled with fantastic people - if you cannot behave in a decent and respectful manner , you do not deserve to live here. This country needs citizens of sound mind and strong bodies - not this trash that is being printed by these gutless people. We need to build up people and infrastructure in SA , not tear it down like mindless sub - beings. Get a life and celebrate our country with positive work and talk.

  • Khetha Hlophe - 2012-05-22 11:56

    DaviD killed Goliath and praised\r\nT killed by common man n arrested\r\nSee any relationshi?

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-22 12:27

      Yeah the bible justifies violence. Glad I am not a bible nutjob.

      Felix - 2012-05-22 12:27

      I see the relationship between your intelligence and a glass of water.

      Heinz - 2012-05-22 14:26

      Be careful, David was the small one. Who's the minority in this country? See any relationship?

  • zee.angel.10 - 2012-05-22 11:58

    Typical!!!!! Bunch of savages....say no more!

  • Rob - 2012-05-22 12:01

    Thanks FW !

      Sean - 2012-05-22 12:50

      Thanks Zuma and your ``used condom`` , Malema !

  • siya.jr - 2012-05-22 12:01

    South Africa the miserable place for ALL

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-22 12:24

      I can't help but feel ashamed to be a part of the human species. One can only step back and watch emotionally charged idiots lay the stepping stones to a future of hate and violence, and hope that loved ones don't get involved.

      LadyCadaver - 2012-05-23 08:17

      You said it dude.

  • eve.carrington - 2012-05-22 12:03

    Let me start by sating I do not agree with the person Terre'blanche was nor his actions however that being said ... firstly it has to be the ANCYL singing the song Shoot the Boer - see their JuliASS taught them well... Secondly, "The Youth" implicated in this crime is no longer a "youth" he is now 18... he should be sentenced as an adult!

      Alfred Luis - 2012-05-22 12:50

      @Gloworm it seems 2 me that u r in a wrong career/career path why didn't u take up a career in detective,u idiot.

      Dylan.rid - 2012-05-22 14:44

      I personally agree with gloworm........name calling shows something of your intelligence, you can't argue so you call names? Let me guess you're standing outside that courtroom now? Or couldn't you get there?

  • Bomb - 2012-05-22 12:07

    The fact that they approve of murder should say something about the mentality and the state that this country is in. Life here is worthless. The authorities knew this could happen, and should have planned accordingly, fencing the area off and keeping the supporters apart. But the government knows that tensions run high, and want it to escalate into something ugly, so that the race card can be played again. Why does the government not come out and publicly denounce such barbaric behaviour? Because they dont want to.

  • papzo.maleke - 2012-05-22 12:09

    If you are posting racists comments - u r on the same level as those who r singing "shoot the boer" outside the court. U accusing them of having grade 4 - so u telling me a grade 4/ uneducated person is really making ur emotions sky rocket like that? what does that make you. Im black and i can differenciate between right an rong - n my fellow white friends who r educated im sure they can do the same. two rongs dont make a right

  • liso.silwana - 2012-05-22 12:12

    how can you support killers? some of us b*ack people are idiots

      Lita - 2012-05-22 12:46

      You are still oppressed mentally by the whites you can't even type the color of ur own skin?! What a shame!

      Jacqui - 2012-05-22 13:09

      Lita, you are what? eightteen. What oppression are you going on about?.

      Heinz - 2012-05-22 14:26

      Lita, your skull is oppressing your brain.

      Dylan.rid - 2012-05-22 14:41

      No Lita you are a shame, you are a shame to black people, you are a shame to your country.....I can hardly imagine being like you, filled with so much hatred over something you know nothing about.....I thought ignorance was bliss???? You obviously never got that memo,

      Johnny - 2012-05-22 14:54

      Black and White, both have a bunch of idiots, and it's hard to get the message through that murder is murder, oppression is over long time ago and we could make this country fantastic if we just opened our eyes and work together. But hatred is unfortunately fed like baby bottles from birth in this country.

  • mnbain - 2012-05-22 12:15

    Its ok, just no pictures of JZ the DickTater's Penis

  • Ryno - 2012-05-22 12:21

    all these people toi-toing at the hearing / art gallery: i am sure they do not have jobs, so where do they get money for banners / t-shirts and how do they get to the venue(s)?

      Jacqui - 2012-05-22 13:12

      Ryno, all these things are supplied by the ANC and they are promised a nice day out with free food and drink. If not they don't want to come. Of course the racist white taxpayers of this country is good enough to pay the bill.

  • Ingeborgh Botha - 2012-05-22 12:22

    It's ironic then they call the whites racist? Excuse me!

  • Peter - 2012-05-22 12:25

    so they sing this song outside the trial of a "suspected" murderer of a Boer. How does this old struggle song tie in with this trial...i can think of only one way. Can somebody help me understand please.

  • jacques.jdp - 2012-05-22 12:30

    Just shows, these idiots have no respect for themselves, let alone anyone else. I wonder who is feeding the poor people who worked for Terreblanche? fact is, 99% of them can not create anything, they can only destroy.

  • kevin.moreland2 - 2012-05-22 12:35

    @JasonMichelleVanderbijlpark cause they are black remember "only whites can be racist"

      Lita - 2012-05-22 12:43

      Yes only whites

      Heinz - 2012-05-22 14:27

      It's because they have to mental capacity to choose. Sorry Lita, no go eat your banana.

      Dylan.rid - 2012-05-22 14:36

      @Heinz, LOL that made my day!!!!

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-05-22 12:37

    Anybody noticed!!!! All this, because of one little spear. Its been building up since Friday. WTF. People are losing the plot altogether.

  • deonk - 2012-05-22 12:37

    I am seeing racism from both sides here, still no reason to sing shoot the boer!

  • Frans - 2012-05-22 12:38

    One can understand the anger and frustration from both sides. One can also see the racism and immaturity in the comments and that is not a solution to our problems. Singing and chanting racial slurs only deepens the hatred and is in no way going to help with reconciliation.

      helena.vanzyl2 - 2012-05-22 13:00

      You are soi correct!!!

  • Thomas - 2012-05-22 12:40

    this has nothing to do with white or black. this has to do how he treated people and he got what he gave over the years....

      Paul - 2012-05-22 12:47

      Fair enough Thomas. Remember though, he did go to prison, and in the end got a "death sentence". Therefore it would only be fair if those who murdered him, also get what is coming to them. I totally agree with the fact that he was a bastard, however he was a South African citizen who was murdered in his own home. Now, as a South African, you must by implication demand justice for a fellow citizen. If they go free, because "he got what he deserved", no South African would ever be safe. No one can justify murder. No one! No white man...no black man..NO HUMAN BEING can justify taking the life of another in a brutal cold blooded manner!!!!

      Thomas - 2012-05-22 12:49

      I agree 100%, we should forget about white and black and they should go to prison but I cannot say that I am not happy for what he got. He got served!

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-05-22 12:58

      When the day comes when you and/or your family are held up by criminals and your begging for your live you must think back to this day and the comments you made.

      Thomas - 2012-05-22 13:47

      will do Christian J Denyschen because I will get what I deserve. "jy sal saai wat jy maai onthou jy die gesegde"

      Dakey - 2012-05-23 00:35

      @Thomas. I didn't like the man at all. He was a tool and this coming from an 'Afrikaner'. That said unlike you, I don't wish death upon anyone just because they're bad, not even Malema. There simply is no place in this country for people like you. You're no different from all those who wanted Mandela dead.

  • Sepedi - 2012-05-22 12:40

    slowly but surely

      Jacqui - 2012-05-22 13:17

      You know Sepedi, I get so tired of people like you threatening, always threatening, and the first to run away when trouble looms. It's pathetic and that is the way it will stay.

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-05-22 12:41

    Then the people who always pull th race card to white sing tht song, who th racist nw? Th man died man, hopeless citizens.

  • herman.brummer - 2012-05-22 12:45

    Too much hate in SA.

      tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-05-22 12:50

      Too much hate in the World - i read viewers' comments on CNN and BBC sites and it's equal if not more racist and ugly - they're a lot more sarcastic and outspoken and to the point. It's everywhere. I hoped SA would be better than a bunch of hillbillies and trash. Sad.

  • karen.jansevanrensburg - 2012-05-22 12:57

    This just shows that racism will never end in SA we are suppose to get along and make it a \rainbow nation\ well I know that us whites has gotten over this racial things but it just shows who is the real racist that song was banned but you all sing it so now you what to know why we retaliate by calling you \K\ for you want want want but don't give. What's good for one is good for the other crime is crime and it must go with the right punishment does not matter if you black white pink green or any color under the sun.

  • Rudi - 2012-05-22 13:00

    Love this country. Wannabe nazis and uneducated unemployed morons having a highschool cheering battle. "we've got bullets! yes we do, we've got bullets how 'bout you?" Though, these chaps should go to jail. Murder = murder, and if you dont understand that then you're an animal.

      Jason - 2012-05-22 13:10

      well said!!!! These isiots from both sides should just be put on their own little islands

      Dylan.rid - 2012-05-22 14:32

      Best comment I've seen today.....sadly logic like this will never reach these people, on both sides......

  • Jason - 2012-05-22 13:08

    ok so lets get this straight we respond to black people being racist, by posting racist comments on news24 any one else see the irony?

  • chasrocker - 2012-05-22 13:08

    Ons helde, na al die geploeter... Lê diep in die aarde se kors.. En ek dink en ek drink aan die soeter, wyn teen die grooter dors.

  • tuwanir - 2012-05-22 13:12

    Racism is alive and well in South Africa. It's like a ticking bomb waiting to explode. May someone provide political leadership before it's too late?

  • Bob - 2012-05-22 13:13

    I think it’s so pathetic how the blacks are allowed to sing anything, but we can’t have a simple painting. The only racist thing about all of this stuff, is the racist attitude of our government. BBBEE affirmative action and so on... IT SUCKS..!! Viva DA Viva...

  • neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-22 13:15

    I wonder who is realy the racists in this country

      Rudi - 2012-05-22 14:25

      Like I said before. Everybody

  • Dylan - 2012-05-22 13:15

    The comments I read here are no better than the actions of the people singing that song. We are all to blame. We are all doomed.

  • Msika - 2012-05-22 13:18

    For as long we still have morons like Brent Murray, situations like this will never come to an end in this beautiful country of ours

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-22 13:29

    After the case is over the AWB should shut it self down and disband completely. They are an embarrassment to the country. Maybe the ANC will follow suite, Yah...sure, in my dreams!

  • Michael - 2012-05-22 13:30

    Guys, Looking at some remarks that are unapologetically "white" you are polarizing our society. This justifies a thought that "white is White" and will never have interest of any black person at heart - whether within DA or not. No matter how hypocritic you can be, you deserve to be hated and driven to the sea. I am just echoing thinking of some blacks out there and you know what I mean.

      Michaele - 2012-05-22 13:38

      Hi Michael, I agree that the remarks used on News24 is sometimes racialist, but what about the singing of kill the boer. Boer from a black perspective is the same as a white person using the "k" word. So for that you believe, as all your black comrades, that whites should be driven into the sea. Who will pay your taxes so that your elected government can purchase BMW's and the like...... Regards, Mike

      Michael - 2012-05-22 14:37

      @Michaele There you go again. Who said only whites pay tax in this country? Do you know that there are various forms of direct and indirect taxation? Aren't black workers paying PAYE and SITE? Aren't black businesses paying company tax? Aren't black consumers paying VAT? Aren't blacks paying fuel levy? Aren't blacks not paying rates and taxes? I can go on for pages. Now stop your stereotipic thinking before you stir hatred. To you black is bad and white is saint.