Shorter liquor hours for Cape Town

2010-11-10 14:03

Cape Town – Cape Town's drinkers will have less time to buy liquor or spend in pubs next year, the City said on Wednesday.

In terms of a new by-law, from January the new drinking hours for pubs, clubs, restaurants and hotels would be 11:00 to 02:00, instead of the current 10:00 start, with an option to continue to 04:00.

For liquor stores and supermarkets, the liquor trading hours would be 09:00 to 18:00. Currently the hours are 08:00 to 20:00.

The councillor who chaired the City's liquor policy task team, Taki Amira, said it had been difficult to please everybody in the drafting of the new by-law.

"With over 3.6 million residents from widely divergent social environments, the City of Cape Town has a responsibility to treat all citizens equally and to help fight the scourge of alcohol abuse," he said.

"The City has tried to strike a balance between the hospitality industry which preferred longer trading hours, and community leaders who insisted on tighter regulations."

  • Faansie - 2010-11-10 14:17

    Stupid Stupid Stupid. A New Bylaw made by Stupid people. It would not make one iota of difference. Would these be applied and enforced on Shebeens as well? I think not.

      Caulfield - 2010-11-11 22:22

      These councillors may think they have won the battle - introducing a by-law that they think is going to curb road accidents. Where did they come from .... oops, I recall we the voters put them in power! Well thanks to democracy we the voters can change things. Don't get too comfortable in your office councillor - we have by-elections next year and I am sorry to say you are the weakest link and have been VOTED OUT!

  • Carolyn - 2010-11-10 14:23

    Why dont they refuse to sell alcohol to any one under the age of 25 yrs, and if caught drinking and driving they should be locked away for life, Maybe they should just ban alcohol in this country, like they are trying to do with cigarettes. Less murders, less rapes, less accidents. Good idea get rid of all the booze and drink water instead, at least you wont die of alcohol problems.

      Julian - 2010-11-10 15:22

      ' Maybe we should ban alcohol in the country' And then we can ban unhealthy foods (Ischaemic heart disease and stroke ) and then sex (AIDS) and then lock people away for life who steal or cut off the toungs of those who incite violence and make it compulsory to exercise and then and then.

      Japhta - 2010-11-11 12:35

      Caro are you for real

      Ockert - 2010-11-11 12:43

      You are an alcoholic ?

      Anita - 2010-11-11 23:18

      if you had any idea of the history of probation you would realise that banning alcohol resulted in the rise in power of the american mafia... when you ban it, you force it underground then the money that he government would make, that could be put to public use, goes directly into the hands of criminals. what we should be focusing on is what this will mean for the western cape economy. with shorter hours almost all of these establishments will lose money and will in all likelihood resort to retrenchments and/or closure. this could ultimately lead to decreased capacity in one of the western capes largest industries (ie. tourism) and a potentially staggering rise in unemployment. the approach of these law makers is narrow and elitist. they are attempting to control, in dictator style, the activities and behavior of the citizens while taking away one of their basic needs, access to employment. but can we expect anything more from the government that shows constant classism verging on racism?

  • Keith - 2010-11-10 14:23

    you concentrate on other forms of abuse

  • sanodn - 2010-11-10 14:25

    I hold a very demanding job with long work hours. Do I not have the right to let loose every other Friday and party until 4am? Obviously I am referring to responsible partying - no drinking and driving, no disturbing of the peace, etc.

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:28

      Yes you can, it just means after 4am or 2am they stop selling booze. It doesn't mean the clubs close.

  • kevin.cadman - 2010-11-10 14:28

    How, pray tell, will limiting the hours that liquor is available help curb alcohol abuse? This is so short-sighted! Are you going to police all the Shebeens too, or do you not REALLY care about them? This is why you get the 'Off License' shops in the UK - they've realised that curbing the PURCHASE never actually helps to curb the problem. Pathetic.

  • andre.schalkwyk - 2010-11-10 14:29

    Please explain how this will fight alcoholism? You cant be serious... what a joke

  • Peter - 2010-11-10 14:31

    This is just to take your attention away from any real issues. We are fast becoming a nanny state...

  • Smanga - 2010-11-10 14:33

    Poor DA, bored... How about they sort out the gun-toting thugs in the cape flats...

      Bernard - 2010-11-10 15:33

      A similar bylaw was passed in the Free State a few months ago...

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:42

      Durban has had this for years already...

      Ockert - 2010-11-11 12:45

      Thugs - are the youth league running around there?

  • lips69 - 2010-11-10 14:41

    This is going to cause binge drinking where people try and consume more alcohol in shorter periods. The UK is a prime example of this. What about the bottle store,clubs, hospitality business, taxi drivers etc etc etc. Are they going to be compensated for shorter periods. No they are going to have to charge more. I think this should be looked at more closely.

  • Zeca.De.Oliveira - 2010-11-10 14:47

    What Community Leaders ?????? No public consultation meetings were held at all in this regard, The community has not had a chance to voice it's opinion on this subject matter as it does not interest the politicians as to their view point. Smacks of National Party enforcement of it's will of minorities on the majority. Wake up Capetonians we living in a democracy don't be led by the noses. These bylaws will only fuel the shebeens and underground liquor outlets and the dronkies will make a point of getting drunk quicker. What stone age babble Jose

  • Shauno - 2010-11-10 14:50

    Trying to treat the problem, instead of finding the cure.

      Pragmatist - 2011-01-06 18:49

      As usual, the band aid is the easiest solution and will get you re elected

  • tenille.lindeque - 2010-11-10 14:52

    Do these people actually know any alcoholics? I have an alcoholic father... he waits outside the bottle store for it to open... whether it opens at 7am, or 10am, he's still going to be there waiting to get his fix. It won't make any difference to curbing the scourge of alcohol abuse WHAT SO EVER! Alcoholics will find a way to get their drug of choice, just like every other addict.

  • sabrael - 2010-11-10 14:52

    "help fight the scourge of alcohol abuse" - Really?

  • Jim Sher - 2010-11-10 15:01

    So instead of staying at work until 18:00 to avoid traffic, and then getting my bottle of red from Pick 'n Pay at 18:30 - 19:00, I now have to leave work at 17:00 sit in traffic and hope to make it to the Pick 'n Pay before they close the alcohol section. Effectively this is reducing the amount of work I do in the day by dictating what time I'm allowed to go shopping and increasing my frustration by forcing me to sit in traffic jams. Why limit law-abiding citizens? Why not simply clamp down on those that break the law? Or is the idea that more people will break the law to sell to willing buyers so that there will be more fines for the city to rake in? Shifting goal-posts is not going to make a (positive) difference.

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:24

      This is not about you dumb ass. You clearly not thinking broadly. Listen to yourselves, worried about the fact you cannot get booze (everyday) after work... you need help and clearly these by-laws are aimed at you and the rest of the dependants to booze. Well done Cape Town!!

      AJ - 2010-11-11 13:23

      This will make absolutely no difference to abuse of alchohol. It will make it slightly more inconvenient for responsible drinkers, but other than that absolutely nothing will be accomplished. Youcan drop the speed limit on the freeway to 50 km/ hour too, but the same idiots will still do 150 and kill people etc in crap cars. It's always easier to change some silly by-law, inconvenience the majority who have not done anything wrong, rather than sort out the actual problem.

  • organik.newsletter - 2010-11-10 15:03

    People are going to do whatever they want, when they want. A lesson learnt from USA's failing "War On Drugs". Changing the liquor hours will not reduce the amount of alcoholics - it is flawed logic. Seeing as 90% of people are opposed to this by-law - how did it actually pass? aren't we a democracy?

  • Greg McDavid - 2010-11-10 15:08

    So the Western Cape has become a Nanny State. Awesome Stuff!

  • Barry M - 2010-11-10 15:09

    Here we go again – backwards…………to the old Apartheid days!!!!! – I remember in the old Rhodesia (before Mugabe and his henchmen plundered the place for personal gain) we could buy liquor at any supermarket (Meikles) any time of the day (or night) and any day of the week! Booze is just another commodity people – like baked beans. It seems like the monolithically stupid sandal brigade will always be in a position to dictate to us lesser middle of the road mortals. When will we pull together and stop them?

      Nebula - 2010-11-11 15:06

      Dude, they still sell liquor in zim supermarkets and you can still buy it on a sunday... afterall not everyone was allowed to be in miekles after 6... so those are not the good old days coz they served only a few...

  • SSDD - 2010-11-10 15:11

    Now hundreds of people must rush at 17:00 after work on a Friday and crowd in a bottle store after searching how long for a parking spot, just to buy a six pack to enjoy with a braai after a long week - and all this within a hour.

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:25

      We in Durban can do it, so can you.

      SSDD - 2010-11-11 13:35

      @pointblankza - congratulations to you. Still not helping me. Do you sit in 40min traffic just to get out of CBD to your suburb? Why should it be that one has to rush - this 2 hour change won't make any difference to an alcoholic as they will get their fix no matter what, but for me as someone who enjoys a beer on a Friday after work, it makes life difficult, unnecessarily.

  • katfiro - 2010-11-10 15:13

    its about time. i am glad this will be in place from next year. everyone is all hands up in the air about ti but its only 2 hours difference???? grow up people. you cant be drinking your life away. it just means you will get home earlier and thus wake up earlier and maybe do something productive with our lives instead of spending weekends hung over!!!

      savage182 - 2010-11-10 15:35

      I have a right to choose when to drink. I drink once a week when i get off shift on a friday at 2. now they are stopping me? Alcoholics will drink at anytime,,,,,,,different hours will not combat the problem of why people baffoon.

      Subzer0 - 2010-11-10 15:35

      I completely agree with you on this one. If everybody was as responsible as they pretend on this site, there would be no drunk-drive accidents. Have your dop at home till the wee hours instead my chinas!!!

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:44

      Gee savaghe182, is Friday the only time you can drink? How about you wait for Saturday morning and then buy your stock for Friday? Stupid.

      Barry M - 2010-11-10 16:25

      Your comments show your lack of intellect. Alcoholics will always find a way to get their fix. For us normal people who wish to enjoy a beer or two with our Friday night braai this is an enormous pain in the arse! Like you!

      katfiro - 2010-11-10 16:31

      firstly, SAVAGE182, its only a 2 hour difference,so buy a pack of beers in the week and drink at home. and didnt your mother teach you that if you have nothing nice to say dont say it at all??? you cant just go around calling people "buffoons" you are obviously not very well educated and have no manners. enjoy your black labels at home on friday night you rude man!!

  • Dylan Mugabe - 2010-11-10 15:16

    Since when is this government so determined to completely stuff up the economy?? I am an adult. I am constantly being pushed around by this stupid government because of the idiots in the cape flats that drink meths and stab each other. Kak law.

  • edwardvk - 2010-11-10 15:17

    A terrible step backwards. So embarrassing.

  • zengfuey - 2010-11-10 15:17

    Failure by provincial and national government to introduce sound socio-economic principles and to use resources to retrain the masses' expectations, eventually leads to the conception of the Nanny State.

  • phherselman - 2010-11-10 15:19

    Dit gaan die DA baie stemme kos by die volgende verkiesing !!!

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:32

      The ANC put those laws in Durban years ago dude. And they still going strong here....

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  • Anna - 2010-11-10 15:20

    "treat all citizens equally" - that would obviously be excluding drinker.

  • pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:22

    Durban has had this for a long time, we get by just fine. Clubs have to stop selling alcohol by 4am but it doesn't mean it closes at 4am. And if you feel you cannot party without alcohol then the by-law is clearly aimed at you, you have a problem..

      lorry1 - 2010-11-11 09:14

      Man but you have had alot to say on this, obviously you have nothing better to do in Durban. By the way, you say that it has been in force in Durban for a long time, yet you have just stated that clubs there have to stop selling by 4am, when what our issue is that they are making clubs here stop at 2am, get your facts straight before you decide to put in your 2 cents worth....Troglodyte

      SSDD - 2010-11-11 13:57

      @pointblankza - WOW, you little kinder garden class captain you. you surely do have lots to say on this subject I see. Judging by the way you respond to everyone’s posts here, It's clear that this is a very sensitive subject to you and I suppose you are leading in the alcoholic trailer trash path that your mother has probably followed. Instead of jumping on your little horse and stretching your trap on everyone, come up with some useful insights and comments, then you will see more people will start taking you seriously.

  • Anna - 2010-11-10 15:22

    "treat all citizens equally" - that's obviously excluding drinkers.

  • cvdwesthuizen - 2010-11-10 15:23

    Is this 7 days a week?

  • deejaysfr - 2010-11-10 15:23

    This is a very silly way of trying to combat a problem. Do they think that if I stay out in long st till after 2am, I'm gonna go home and beat my wife and have kids with FAS. Really. what a joke.

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:30

      Huh? Speak English..

  • Craig - 2010-11-10 15:25

    I am not sure what they are trying to achieve - Why not start by sorting out the problem which is not pubs and liquor stores. All you are doing is telling people to go and buy their drinks earlier that's all. Why not implement a good public transport system that can get people to the pub and home safely. We have all theses buses standing around empty as you enter the CBD - USE THEM YOU CLOWNS... Government really needs to wake up and sort themselves out and not waist time on useless stuff.

  • Gemstone - 2010-11-10 15:26

    Then instead of buying 1 bottle of Rum, I will have to buy 3/4/5 in order to make up for the "smokkies" closing earlier ;)) LMFAO... This is utter B.S :) BITE ME!

  • codyfrmn - 2010-11-10 15:28

    So now the people who aren't at fault must pay for those who are... Pathetic Cape Town, absolutely pathetic.

  • siener - 2010-11-10 15:29

    This is so ridiculous. I'm sure the shebeen owners (and the people who get kickbacks) are happy though. Note to lawmakers: Any law that instantly turns reasonable behaviour of normal citizens into a crime overnight it probably not a good idea and will probably have unintended consequences.

  • Nick - 2010-11-10 15:30

    This only serves to punish bars/clubs. Another bird-brained law thought up by short-sighted City lawmakers. And to top it off they do it at the beginning of the tourist season in the Cape! What a laugh!

  • Makutu - 2010-11-10 15:32

    OK! Less SAB jobs... Less jobs for bartenders. Less tax money to be paid by SAB. Less money to be made by government. How smart was this huh? Like seriously. This is very stupid of the Cape Town government. VERY VERY STUPID.

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:44

      Durban has been this way for years dumbo

      Makutu - 2010-11-11 08:50

      And I live in Durban, right?

  • Toby - 2010-11-10 15:35

    My God!! D'you mean people start that early!!! And you reckon an hour is going to make all the difference. And yes, closing at the same time will absolutely help!!!

  • sanodn - 2010-11-10 15:37

    People can take it up with the person responsible for this (or at least partly): This email is publicly available on the City of Cape Town's website.

  • nikondaniel - 2010-11-10 15:44

    this country is so THIRD WORLD!!!

  • chrisct001 - 2010-11-10 15:47

    email Taki Amira & Dan Plato to complain : /, this address has his contact details:

  • The Customer - 2010-11-10 15:48

    poor us! just look at all the comments - how are we now going to sustain our charming personalities...???

  • antpear - 2010-11-10 15:51

    whats the point of going out then? and they are soooo worried about the drinkers,that they forget about rapist,robbers and killers. these people are sick and want to spoil everyones lifes,gov makes me sick,pathetic.

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:58

      Sounds like you are too..

  • CB57 - 2010-11-10 16:06

    Welcome to the Nanny State! Please check your free will, maturity, conscience, values and common sense at the door; you don't need it - we'll think for you!

  • Banned - 2010-11-10 16:06

    Ummmmmm....what time do the shebeens close in CT?

  • CB57 - 2010-11-10 16:10

    welcome to the Nanny State! Please leave your common sense, maturity, and anything else that gives you free choice at the door. We'll make the rules for you. Funny how all these new laws seeem to have councillor JP Smith's hand in them. Same man who's going to time dogs barking for the allowable 6 minutes an hour! Mwahahahahahaaaaaaa! I'm lovin' it - NOT!

  • semaj - 2010-11-10 16:18

    Let us get realistic now. People are going to drink whether you or I like it or not. Furthermore we know that there are many, in fact thousands who cannot behave properly or even in a semi-civilised manner when under the influence, therefore, lets us ban alcohol totally as was the case in the USA during prohibition years. What happened? The original drug culture sprang up out of nowhere to supply a perceived need, so here we are about to add to yet another bunch of gangsters who will be selling their wares. Perhaps drinking may be worse than snorting or smoking? Whicheverway, it will lead to further impovirishment and crime if existing legitimate outlets are closed down.

  • Marek - 2010-11-10 16:28

    It is really annoying being told what and when to buy certain products. Alcohol does have its drawbacks but this by-law will have little affect on the problem of alcoholism. Marijuana should also be legalized! It is completely ludicrous how a substance that can (and is) used by many and to the detriment on none, is illegal. It is an outdated law that needs review! LEGALIZE IT!

  • Anonymous. - 2010-11-10 16:31

    I agree it is stupid, there is no logic in it. I work for the City of Cape Town, and believe me the place is a shambles. Stupid illogical decisions are being made all the time. Do they really think that this is going to curb alcohol abuse?

  • mraciborski - 2010-11-10 16:32

    It is really annoying being told what and when to buy certain products. Alcohol does have its drawbacks but this by-law will have little affect on the problem of alcoholism. Marijuana should also be legalized! It is completely ludicrous how a substance that can (and is) used by many and to the detriment on none, is illegal. It is an outdated law that needs review! LEGALIZE IT!

  • mikejanuary - 2010-11-10 16:34

    Well, if I can't make it to the bottle store before closing, it just means the local smokkie will make more money. I thought the intent was to put the smokkies/shebeens out of business, not give them more.

  • anya.scholtz - 2010-11-10 16:42

    People keep pointing out that Durban has had this for years... do you really want to compare Durban's nightlife to Cape Town's? I've experienced both and i can tell you right now there is no comparison, aside from the drunk drivers, and I assure you Durban has just as many as Cape Town. This is pointless.