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Simelane facing 'racist' complaint

2011-09-06 13:18

Johannesburg - A complaint has been lodged against national director of public prosecutions Menzi Simelane relating to "racist" comments he made in the Sunday Times, the SA Institute of Race Relations (SAIRR) said on Tuesday.

"The institute is of the view that these comments are racist, could incite racial hatred, and unfairly discriminate against whites," deputy chief executive officer Frans Cronje said in a statement.

"The institute has asked the Human Rights Commission of SA to investigate the comments and secure appropriate redress."

The newspaper quoted Simelane as saying: "It is also a fact that in all, if not most, of these crimes black people are the victims. It is also a fact that the perpetrators are mostly white men. Our courts are full of people like these."

He called for the introduction of race crime legislation and greater policing of social networking websites.

Until race legislation was enacted, South Africa would continue to have incidences where race remained a major factor, said Simelane.

His comments were in reaction to a story about a boy shown in a Facebook picture lying apparently lifeless while a white man stood over him with a rifle.

SAHRC spokesperson Vincent Moaga confirmed it had received the complaint on Monday.

"It will be put through our complaint assessment process to determine the best way of dealing with it."

National Prosecuting Authority spokesperson Mthunzi Mhaga said the national director of public prosecutions (Simelane) would deal with the matter when formally notified.

"The NDPP has noted the press release by SAIRR. He will deal with the said complaint as and when he is officially notified and in receipt thereof."

Comments
  • ManOTMoment - 2011-09-06 13:23

    "Our courts are full of people like these.".......eish

      Yomar Sapus - 2011-09-06 13:44

      A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, "What are all those clocks?" St. Peter answered, "Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie, the hands on your clock will move." "Oh," said the man, "who's clock is that?" "That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never moved indicating that she never told a lie." "Whose clock is that?" "That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have only moved twice, telling us that Abraham only told two lies in his entire life." The man asked, "Where's Julius Malema's clock?" "It's in the Main office, they are using it as a FAN !!

      Komasa - 2011-09-06 14:45

      @Jou Ma rich coming from someone who can't spell.

      Point Blank - 2011-09-06 15:15

      Who says he can't speak it... douche bag.

      Meanleader - 2011-09-06 15:36

      Komasa ..Eeish ..you need to go steal some brains ...yours are weak and worn out >> Inkwenkwe !!!

  • The_Realist - 2011-09-06 13:24

    "Our courts are full of people like these." what a delusional twat!

      willieman - 2011-09-06 13:39

      If Simelane says our courts are fullm of this people could he please care to give us numbers.Polirising the country again

  • Welleducated - 2011-09-06 13:25

    These comments come as no surprise at all! ANC supporter no doubt. Racists.

      daaivark - 2011-09-06 13:37

      Which of the many varied comments do you refer to? It seems rather confused just to make an unqualified statement like that, and being well educated it can't be possible that you're confused, can it?

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 13:52

      @welled: i bet that qualification is fabricated, judging from your biased comment and to summarise what you have just said: "I am not suprised by this comment (which comment?) because all ANC supporters are racist." That is your opinion but it is an unfair conclusion towards those with different and unbiased views. It highlights your failure to reason and make logical conclusions of an issue in its entirety. The whole is not equal to the sum.

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-06 14:21

      you know what both you welleducated and you Komasa are racists. Tell you what everyone is really big and bold on this type of media. Lets arrange a fist fight and see if any of you would show up. I would, to clobber the both of you idiots.

      clayton.bezuidenhout - 2011-09-06 14:27

      @Vullis, What are you ranting about. I have a friend, a very close friend who is and always will remain an ANC supporter, I on the other hand support the DA. We have not let our Political Views or the colour of our skin come between our friendship. Go stand in the corner and think about what you said. Maybe then you'll realize that the sense you've been making through your comments doesn't make any sense at all. Educate yourself to the prospect of a rainbow nation where black and white remains merely just a color and not a side.

      happycamper - 2011-09-06 14:30

      komasa...your comments are childish and without intelligence. in fact - it resonates of the african mentality. try one of the other cards in the pack - the race card is getting old.

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 14:41

      @Clayton - *sigh*. Perhaps you should re-read my comment and see whom it is directed at. I shall let you be the assumingly intelligent individual that you would like to portray yourself as. On another note, you have friends that support the ANC? I have family that supports the ANC, so don't get clever - get educated. Read.

      Komasa - 2011-09-06 14:49

      @happercamper it was sarcasm directed at @Welleducated's comment. Not intelligent enough to see that??

      happycamper - 2011-09-06 14:51

      I am referring to all you comments....

      Meanleader - 2011-09-06 15:43

      Clayton ...I feel sorry for you ...truely ! Daaivark has just woken from a whisky stupor ! Komasa just got let out of the zoo ! Simelanie purposefully tried to portray whites as the main criminals in SA , when in fact it is quite the oposite ... Man SA has had it's chips with the intellectual dissappointments like these around !.

  • Richie - 2011-09-06 13:27

    This is the corrupt official that gave Zuma life. By dropping all charges when he was so monumentally guilty... so who could ever take him serious.

  • Prof - 2011-09-06 13:28

    I think they are just being too sensetive. This black and white thing is not gonna end anytime soon.Oh my country!!!!

      Meanleader - 2011-09-06 15:46

      Yeah ..not as long as affirmative action and Black Economic plunder continues ...that is what is dividing SA ....oh and the corrupt people that Simelanie did not mention !

  • Komasa - 2011-09-06 13:28

    The SAIRR obviously does not read the comments on news24.

      DeonL - 2011-09-06 13:37

      People in high places don't comment here. He should have known better if he indeed said that. Only 10% of white men don't work and they are only 10% of the country. So they must be realy busy to get that done, being only 1%.

      CalamitySA - 2011-09-06 13:39

      Komasa Racism is bad. In everybody's eyes. What hurts me more though is the HATE which comes through so clear in your comments. I have already and will pray for you again tonight. You probably know that hate comes from somebody whom you do not want to be associated. Wish you well.

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 13:53

      CalamitySA: i don't think you speak for everyone.

      Neles - 2011-09-06 14:04

      @CalamitySA - hope you praying for an unbiased view as well while you at it. Wish you well.

      happycamper - 2011-09-06 14:33

      Komasa is sour.

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 14:43

      lol@Komasa, that was funny but below the belt.

      Komasa - 2011-09-06 14:51

      @happycamper run out of adjectives?

      Point Blank - 2011-09-06 15:17

      ...and Komasa doesn't read the comments on Sowetanlive.

  • Viv - 2011-09-06 13:33

    Haibo - black people being racist - never! What are you talking?? Didnt you know that racism is only a white thing?? Only whites are racist. Black people are angels didnt you know.

      k1dbl4ck - 2011-09-06 13:50

      angels who think the bigger your mouth the further you move forward in life.

      Moonshine - 2011-09-06 14:11

      Viv. Angels are white!!

      Komasa - 2011-09-06 14:34

      @Jou Ma especially when white people can't spell.

  • jeremy - 2011-09-06 13:37

    A man in his position should be sure of his facts before commenting. The Star yesterday quoted the father of the boy in the picture. The father apparently said his son was sleeping and the white farmer posed over him with his gun as a joke. The father said he had no problem with the pic - and that his son and the farmer were on good terms. The problem is that a pic like this gets put on Facebook - and everybody, including the Sunday Times and Menzi Simelane, jump to the wrong conclusion. By all accounts this was a harmless joke which, thanks to Facebook, has become a national embarassment!

      Lions Man - 2011-09-06 13:54

      majozi your type are taking care of the problem yourselves... carry on fornicating and spreading aids! negative growth rate JACK negative growth rate!

      Neil - 2011-09-06 13:56

      @Majozi: Yes here is another one.. Someone broke into Malema’s study and stole five of his most favourite books over the weekend. He is so upset because he wasn’t finished colouring in three of them.

      24JD - 2011-09-06 13:59

      @Majozi, the boy was sleeping and with the parents saying it is ok, the foto taken. If you do not know the story, do not commet, just makes you sound like a fool!

      Felix - 2011-09-06 14:01

      Majozi, if you'd read the story they are actually buddies and the kids family was there laughing with the white boy. They even did a picture later on with the roles reversed. BTW I didn't know Zim still had internet. Hamba cockaroach.

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 14:08

      @LionsMan: 'Your type'? what type is that?

      Neles - 2011-09-06 14:15

      yes @jeremy did you also read the part where the father of the boy is an employee of the rifle poser's father or did you skim through it?

      Peter - 2011-09-06 14:21

      They say a picture is worth a 1000 words, but the economy is so bad now a picture is only worth 10words

      jeremy - 2011-09-06 14:27

      Neles,yes I read that. Your point being what exactly? That the man is going to lie to the Star to save his skin? It sounds to me as though this whole thing has been blown completely out of proportion.

      Komasa - 2011-09-06 14:28

      @jeremy your justification just shows what an idiot you are. Guaranteed The Star never spoke to the boy's farther, why did they not speak to the farmer as well.

      Lions Man - 2011-09-06 14:30

      Vullis the TYPE that threatens civil war, clear enough for you?? Funny thing is this little turd will be the first to run.

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 14:54

      aaaah yes lion, you have lost your roar! but i agree, civil war is on our door step, if this ANCYL thing is not curbed

      Komasa - 2011-09-06 14:58

      Lets reverse the situation and have a black man with a rifle kneeling over a white child and see if that is a 'harmless little joke'.

      Tolerant - 2011-09-06 15:09

      Chill out guys, let us rather talk Rugby. Go Bokke, next time BB.

      Lions Man - 2011-09-06 15:12

      eish madozi eish. I think you dumber than your comments even reflect! Eish my willy is bigger than yours. eish! hahahaha! Neanderthal!

      kleindeef - 2011-09-06 15:32

      @Komasa. Already hapenned. Her name was Wilmien. Only one difference. She was really shot.

  • vegetarian - 2011-09-06 13:38

    This complaint is senseless because Simelane was quoting facts and referring to a specific case. It is true that the people Simelane was referring to are culprits in most racial inspired hate crimes. So speaking the truth is no longer acceptable in this rainbow dispensation.

      Tolerant - 2011-09-06 13:51

      This story was about a photo, it was never a case. The father of the boy agreed that it could be taken, nothing came of it. The boy was just sleeping.

  • Really Now - 2011-09-06 13:41

    It wasn't racist! Grow up! Every time somebody reports a statistic and labels a specific race group, it will always be seen as "racist". What if he is right? Is he only a racist because he is wrong? If white men go on facebook and utter racist nonsense more than any other grouping, are nobody allowed to say that? I want to live in a country where I can look at two boxers in a ring and it will not be racist to call the one black and the other one white. I want to live in a country where I am told that 15 black children died in a taxi accident. I want to live in a country where I can be told that 4 black young men murdered a white farmer with an axe. Why should "race" be protected in this country?

      trev2 - 2011-09-06 14:05

      Why do you want to know the colour? If 15 children die in a taxi accident it is a tragedy. Why should the skin colour of the children make any difference? I agree with you on the boxers in the ring though. If that is the easiest way to tell them apart, there is nothing wrong with referring to them as black or white. No different from two white boxers being distinguished by the colour of their hair.

  • Nkalakatha - 2011-09-06 13:41

    Eish Menzi there you go again !! Let your staff investigate first BEFORE you comment on issues like these !!

  • Vredehoek Rentals - 2011-09-06 13:43

    Why is this statement racist? Because he is generalising or stating facts? We don't know this - maybe there are alot of ppl in the courts or maybe not. Only time will tell. Do we always need to jump on our horses and accuse everyone of being racist when we the racists. Yes i am talking to you reading this. All the racists on this forum.

  • Sakzen_Ma2fa - 2011-09-06 13:44

    Its sad to see all the fear and hate between blacks and whites on news24.

      Really Now - 2011-09-06 13:53

      It's not just on News24. After 1994, most white and black people were ready to forget the past and work together on a new country for all. Last year my son wanted to go to University and although his marks were better than any of his classmates, he was declined as "they have to allow a certain number of black students in before they look at the white list". THAT is racist. But it is the law now. Of my son's 15 friends who got the free entry on the color of their skin, only 3 passed. My son applied again and got in during the second term. This country is wasting our time and money by forcing racist rules down our throat. Every time that happens, white and black people take one step back towards a racist society. Malema opens his mouth, another step back. Uninformed blind rugby transformation - another step back. A white man getting a suspended sentence for killing a black worker - another step back. Shabir living the life of a king while "terminally ill" - another step back.

      falcon2020 - 2011-09-06 13:56

      I am white --- PLEASE make me feel better about my future in South Africa...PLEASE!!

      Kenko - 2011-09-06 14:26

      @Really Now - We have taken so many steps back, we actually turned around and are marching fullspeed in the backwards direction. We will have to turn things around and start taking steps backwards, in the right direction. Am I making sense?;-)

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 14:56

      @falcon - what about the black people living in squatters, the ones that have drowned due to flooding as well or the woman in these squatter camps that are raped? Should they not feel better about their country too?

      Tolerant - 2011-09-06 15:11

      Forget race, lots of money to be made still in SA, Go Bokke.

      falcon2020 - 2011-09-06 15:15

      @Vuilgoed..the comment was about white fear and black anger and the saddness of it all, But you are correct that we should all feel better, it's just that when contributing all one can, treating all fairly and with respect, the "country" does not seem to take decent white folk into account, it's like you want to read what is not said into comments, and highlight a angle that portay arrogance, racism, lack of understanding, Your still young you'll understand one day. Almost all white folks have become accidentally offside and penalised for racism, that was never actually committed or intded..

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 15:36

      @falcon. ok.

  • SalesMon - 2011-09-06 13:45

    OK, this is a bit tenuous now ... when did we become so sensitive? Surely the SAIRR has more radical & damaging cases of racism to pursue? As a white man I suspect that Simelane might well be spot on w.r.t abuse of social networking sites; particularly as how this segment of the population is the one which enjoys the overwhelming majority of access to websites in SA. Would I be held up as racist if I indicated a belief that the majority of hijacking perpetrators are black males?

      Naraku - 2011-09-06 14:30

      I'm pretty sure you would have to say goodbye to your career and status if you were anyone worth noting and you said that in public, yes. I am all for truth, I don't actually care about peoples stupid sensitivities if they get in the way of the truth. I have no problem with simelane having his say, as long as whites are allowed theirs, which they aren't. I prefer truth.

      Naraku - 2011-09-06 14:42

      For example, stats would not back you up. They only take race into consideration when they know it will be in their favour. Crime stats are not in their favour, hence no racial classifications. But you will find racial classification in stats from houshold income, education levels, to infant mortality rates.

  • Johan - 2011-09-06 13:45

    I hope he can back these allegations with stats because if he can not do that he is going to go the same way as Malema. In fact - those utterenses are very unbecomming of a person in his position and you may very well expect strong action

  • asiseeit - 2011-09-06 13:47

    Our goverment are full of people like these.....!

  • Expat - 2011-09-06 13:48

    Oh my word. SA news is full of jokes today. First this untrue propaganda rubbish; http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/SA-has-a-positive-online-reputation-20110906 and now this; "It is also a fact that the perpetrators are mostly white men. Our courts are full of people like these."

  • Dazbo - 2011-09-06 13:49

    Seems a bit frightening to say the least when the National Director of Public Prosecutions makes satements like this. Should he not be trying to bring about reconciliation between various ethnic groups rather than inciting racial tension at this point in time. Regardless of your ethnic origin or political viewpoint you should condemn this person and his comments in the strongest possible way. These statements in no way, shape or form, advance the cause of all South Africans. I, personally, am disgusted !!!

      falcon2020 - 2011-09-06 14:00

      Well said!

  • Kevin - 2011-09-06 13:50

    Again we have a government idiot in a position to make an ar#e of himself.

  • Kimbo Slice - 2011-09-06 13:53

    Cant even comment, it will be deleted within 5min. *starts stopwatch

  • Thelma - 2011-09-06 13:56

    www.wix.com/ajkraad/genocide-museum - say no more!

      Jim - 2011-09-06 14:02

      Nothing to see or say? .......

  • Fired-up - 2011-09-06 13:58

    Dont tell me, Menzi is ANC. Bloody agent!

  • abg100 - 2011-09-06 14:00

    Oh for goodness sake! Its always "BECAUSE IM BLACK' Majority of crime in this country is commited by blacks-before everyone starts whinging go and look at the prisons! Kill the boer,kill the farmer,farm attacks,the list is endless! When are blacks in this country going to use their so called "freedom" and better themselves as people instead of always playing the race card???? The most brutal crimes in this country are comitted by blacks-body parts for muti,raping of babies to cure aids,murdering albinos because of witch craft and always done behind the guise of its tradition or the ancestors told them to do it.Bottom line you are what you are in life because you choose to be so-not because your grandparents were victims of apartheid or because youre black. We are always being told black or whote-cut the skin and flesh the same. If thats the case then blacks have serious self sabotaging tendencies and or no desire as individuals to be the best person they can. They will never be takeb seriously until they step up and walk the road everyone else does.

      trev2 - 2011-09-06 14:12

      You talk about 'blacks' and use the word 'they'. This is dangerous generalisation. By using these words you are implying that all black people are like that. This is the type of thing that adds fuel to Julius's fire.

  • BusyB - 2011-09-06 14:03

    I must be a racist because I only have sex with white girls

      abg100 - 2011-09-06 14:21

      Or a sex addict,or perhaps you have a bit of class and are picky about what diseases you contract?

      happycamper - 2011-09-06 14:45

      ja, I think my dogs are racist as well, because they bark for only black people :-p (just a joke)

      daaivark - 2011-09-06 14:58

      They bark for only black people. What about people with blotchy skin who aren't only black but may have little patches of colour? It's a language thing, in case you don't get it.

      happycamper - 2011-09-06 15:06

      Nope...they can keep quiet and still. But also..i've seen black people's dogs only barking for white??

      the one - 2011-09-06 15:14

      @happycamper that is funny, not original, but funny....we need that, especailly news24 readers...well done

  • George - 2011-09-06 14:03

    Lets be honest, Nazism, apartheid and superior racial attitudes (racism) is the main disease of Europeans. Hundreds of Millions of innocent white people in Europe and other dark indigenous tribes have lost their lives due to people like Hitler, Malan, and other white racists. Hitler did not even consider some fellow Europeans such as dark southern Europeans as proper aryan white races derserving to live. hence he attacked eastern europeans ( Russia) in search of a "lebensraum" livingroom for proper Aryans. (German). Racism everywhere is the disease of white people resulting in the near extinction of the jews and the Australian aborigines. We must accept that fact. Not long ago in SA, (17 years back) racism was openly institutionalised and practised barbarically by whites. Do we think that the scourge is over is such a short period of time? No.

      Bloodstone - 2011-09-06 14:27

      You cite Nazis against Jews as racism, fair enough; what would you call the Hutus against the Tutsis? And you keep on saying that only whites can practice racism. Go smoke your pot somewhere else!

      Dazbo - 2011-09-06 14:33

      George thank you for your comments... However, i believe that you have been misinformed or have been travelling through life with blinkers on. Carry out some research on genocide and you will find that it is not a European problem at all. I agree that Hitler was a major culprit but was the exception rather than the rule. Any comments on the following... Rwanda Genocide equatorial Guinea - Francis Nguema Genocide Ethiopia - Genocide Zimbabwe - Our friend Robert Mugabe - Genocide Somalia - Genocide Darfur/Sudan - Genocide Idi Amin - Uganda - Genocide and a host of others...all black !!! Sir, i am not and have never been a racist but your comments are offensive, purile and totally uneducated !!!

      Point Blank - 2011-09-06 15:24

      @George.... blah blah snore. Go educate yourself..

  • burtfred - 2011-09-06 14:04

    "Our courts are full of people like these." What a load of rubbish. Similane has obviously not spent much time in Hillbrow Magistrates Court - there is hardly a white face to be seen amongst the thousands of "accused" that get processed monthly at this tacky little so-called legal edifice.

  • Greg - 2011-09-06 14:04

    What a great country South Africa is! May we continue progressing towards a non-racial society where everyone is treated equal irrespective of skin color. Proudly ashamed of South Africa...

  • Fredster69 - 2011-09-06 14:06

    This guy must be colour blind

  • Faffa Venter - 2011-09-06 14:06

    It seems you are only a racist if you are white! If any white person should dare say anything like that he will be stoned in public by the public. Where is this all going?!!!

  • 2WhiteStars - 2011-09-06 14:07

    Meanwhile the black racists on Facebook get away scot-free. Openly calling for the murder of White people and what does the State do about it? Nothing. But a joke picture (albeit in poor taste) causes a national crisis. And a word to the unwise: this White man is armed to the teeth, a crack shot and has lots and lots of bullets.

      Neles - 2011-09-06 14:18

      lol

  • Doublepost - 2011-09-06 14:08

    So, let me get this right. White people are getting assaulted, raped, robbed, murdered and driven from the work place through BEE and AA and then rightfully display their utter horror and disrespect of black racist hate crimes and instead of sorting the issue out, Mr Simelane decides he wants to introduce more draconian "hate" speech laws in order to shut the White man up. Wow, such enlightenment here!

      Neles - 2011-09-06 14:17

      I doubt anything will shut you up

      Doublepost - 2011-09-06 14:39

      Nope, that's the whole point of free speech, isn't it? They can keep coming but one must never ever "shut up." So, Simelane will probably try but please people, whatever happens, DON'T SHUT UP!

  • maxster - 2011-09-06 14:09

    Thelma so true and Majozi if you do that black ppl will live like zim ppl no food no work no money

  • Du - 2011-09-06 14:12

    Majozisand where do you come from, let me help you NORTH Africa, ONLY the Coi San from Southern Africa. Q: and after you have chased all whites into the sea what will you be eating, who will be providing your food? In 17 years we saw how quickly you can destruct a country, when all the whites are out what will you have? another Somalia, who has to give aid there (western world which was build up by WHITES) Q: Why do think there are so many Zim's in this country? To have foodhere and work? No I did not think you could think that far. STARVATION is on your front stoep. Q: Why do so many African countries ask White South African farmers to come to their countries??? To rescue there people from starvation.So put this in your pipe and smoke it, you need us to rescue you from starvation and also to help you re-build South Africa after everthing is demolished and destructunbg you've proven that in only 17 years. THIS IS MY COUNTRY whether you and your mates like it or not. Q: Why are there so many black and the rest of the world? Because in their countries they are starving. Whites had to come from other countries to come and try to civilize people like you and try to uplift you, needless to say unfortunately this is not an easy task, as most of you prefer stealing, murder, raping, crime and destroying. Do yourself a favour and look at the history of the WHOLE of Africa's history, and then talk to us again.

  • africanwolf - 2011-09-06 14:14

    Instead of try and bring all South Africans to live in peace together, some elements are trying to ignite a racial civil war . well guys i have news for you 1.white South Africans are here to stay, and will go nowhere. 2. on the first attempt to steal property Zimbabwe style, war is inevitable. 3.white South Africans love this country, and have nowhere to go and will fight and protect their families and property , no matter what. 3.i believe live in peace is more affordable for both sides, as there are no winners in wars only losers. P.S don't forget that it is not only black and white. South Africa's population of today consist of many nationals.

  • Goose - 2011-09-06 14:15

    We, as commentators and ordinary citizens of SA are perfectly entitled to state our personal points of views on these forums. FACT?: every single human being is racist to a greater or lesser extent, don't deceive or BS yourselves. Following on to the artricle, any person heading up a government body, has a fiduciary duty to make neutral comments stating facts and NOT inciting hatred or violence! The difference is that these high office holders are very influential and are thus accountable to taxpayers. Simelane is a racist, arrogant moron who should be charged for doing a Malema-style propaganda statement, knowing full well that he is spewing forth garbage and portraying it as truth!

  • the one - 2011-09-06 14:17

    race will always be a factor in South Africa, its our scar(both black and white), our legacy.......just live with it :)

  • Beannie - 2011-09-06 14:17

    @vullis, no we whites should drive all of you blacks into the sea. It is a fact you can't swim, the bone in the heads is too heavy.

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 14:50

      hey, my comment is waaaaayyy up there. you are lucky i scrolled down. lol

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 15:06

      by the way, your comment is very intellectual. *thumbs-up*

  • Jf - 2011-09-06 14:23

    basically, since 'racism' is something only white people produce, the so called 'race crime legislation' would target only white people! After all some people think as Majozi" - September 6, 2011 at 13:34 I think we shpould do the Zim style and drive all Whites to the sea and build a Dromedaris for them.They dont have their own country called home and now have big mouths.They are squatters in SA." the question being, after the last white person leaves RSA, who are they going to blame for their failure? I'm sure they'll find someone, more bloody agents!

      the one - 2011-09-06 14:26

      breathe JF...what you have just said is not basic at all...just...breathe!!! ;)

  • Badger - 2011-09-06 14:24

    Sure, but what about Malema and "Kill The Boer" I'm sick to death of idiots like this always crying race when the shoe is on the other foot. This crap will NEVER END, NEVER !!!!!

  • Goose - 2011-09-06 14:24

    For the record, whoever placed the photo of the guy with the gun standing over a black child is an utter and complete idiot! I am not fond of black people or their culture, but that was seriously DUMB!!

  • Peter - 2011-09-06 14:25

    So it appears to me that a white can not make a joke with a black. I have many laughs with black people but then they are not poltitions

  • letsee - 2011-09-06 14:26

    Another guy with a complex of inefriority

  • mac5079 - 2011-09-06 14:28

    OK, so why are people so miffed at his statement. The order in which the facts are reported is bad but I find his statement to most likely be true. Firstly his statement applies to crime committed online seemingly using social networks. Secondly I think it is reasonable to assume that there are disproportionately more white people online in SA than black. I suspect that the majority of the SA online community is white. Thirdly men tend to commit crime more readily than women, look at prison population make-up. There are some interesting theories on why this is the case but I wont get into that. Fourthly the majority of the SA population is black, and the victim does not need to be online to be the victim. So online crime is most likely committed by white men with black people being the victim...so what? The reporter probably asked the guy about the demographic that commits online crime, he gave his answer. Then the story is written with the facts out of order and people get upset. So what that he didn't comment about other types crime, he probably wasn't asked. The part I find worrying is the race based legislation but nothing is said about how it would work or if it applies both ways and to other crimes.

  • whatsinaname - 2011-09-06 14:29

    @The_Realist - Exactly! What Simelane said was fact! Does that now make him a racist?

      Naraku - 2011-09-06 15:07

      By the populour definition used today? Yes. It is used against whites everyday.

      Naraku - 2011-09-06 15:08

      Just to elaborate, no I don't agree with that definition. Stating a truth is not racist.

  • Ingie - 2011-09-06 14:29

    It is also a fact that in all, if not most, of these crimes black people are the victims. It is also a fact that the perpetrators are mostly white men. Our courts are full of people like these." AND PRAY SIR DO YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL FIGURES FOR THIS SO CALLED MADE UP INFORMATION. HOW MANY WHITES ARE KILLED BY BLACKS, AS OPPOSED TO BLACKS BEEN KILLED BY WHITES..GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU OPEN YOU BIG FAT MOUTH

      Antionette - 2011-09-06 14:50

      Hey bru - you're sitting on your bit of brain

  • rory - 2011-09-06 14:31

    I understand Menzi Simelane's concern about racially prejudicial social networking sites. However I do not think that his suggested solution of race based legislation to deal with the problem is the best approach. Such legislation just keeps racism in our country alive. Surely legislation could be formulated that addresses the abuses of human rights that is inherent in the content of these sites and no racial references need to be made.

      Moi1980 - 2011-09-06 15:10

      You know what? As long as he goes after the various individuals on facebook that are encouraging the murder of farmers and other whites, then he can also go after the idiot posing with the black child. They can put them all together in one section of the prisons and they can all take out their hatred with each other and leave the rest of the South Africans alone.

  • maxster - 2011-09-06 14:33

    good things come to those who wait

  • clayton.bezuidenhout - 2011-09-06 14:35

    Not even worth fighting about.

      Vullis - 2011-09-06 15:07

      shame

  • pewpewpew - 2011-09-06 14:39

    @Vullis, um maybe to whoever or whatever the article is about... or do you just skip that and go strait to the comments and when ever you see they ,them ,she ,him ,dog ,cat blah blah blah… you just say," they (as in the people you seem to think are racist) must be talking about black/white/colored people" or whoever you think is being discriminated against. YOU are the one that wants to make it a race issue so you can feed your little mined with hate

  • Antionette - 2011-09-06 14:42

    THE RAW HATE BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE IS REALLY GOING TO COST THIS COUNTRY ......