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Soldiers deployed in Marikana

2012-09-15 19:36

Johannesburg - At least a thousand soldiers were deployed in Marikana on Saturday evening, the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) said.

"The soldiers were deployed at the request of the police to support them in their operation,' said SANDF spokesperson Brigadier General Xolani Mabanga.

Mabanga said the soldiers sent to Marikana included members from the air force, the army, and the military health services.

Earlier on Saturday, police fired rubber bullets to disperse striking mineworkers who had gathered in Nkaneng informal settlement in Wonderkop.

Twelve people were arrested during a raid at Lonmin mine's Karee hostel, and pangas, knobkerries and other dangerous weapons were seized.

Comments
  • raymond.buis.3 - 2012-09-15 19:43

    Round one- traditional weapons vs fully automatic weapons. Round two -traditional weapons vs tanks. Wonder if they will win this time?

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-09-16 22:07

      There can be no doubt anymore. When the government deploys the army against its own citizens, you either have a civil war or a revolution on your hands. The message I read into this is that the government has lost control of the situation. For their sake I hope the ANC has that red telephone linked up to order some helicopters to save them from the rooftop of Luthuli House like Ferdinand Marcos and his family were whisked away from the rooftop of Malacañang Palace in the Philippines back in 1986.

  • graham.brouwer - 2012-09-15 19:45

    Keep it up and 100% happy with progress... Just very sad that our tax money is spend on a tragic situation...:(

  • michael.rampatla - 2012-09-15 19:54

    They disarm them and now send the soldiers to kill them to protect Cyril Ramaphosa

      thabo.lekwane.7 - 2012-09-15 20:11

      Ramphosa is dancing where is cz he cnt wait 2 c those slave of his back at work maybe he wnts 2 buy a lion nw.

      nads.delange - 2012-09-15 20:22

      You guys confuse me. There are legal ways to strike, without weapons and killing people and keeping people who don't want to strike from working and earning a living. You are basically condoning crime and lawlessness by supporting these miners. They could've striked legally, they chose not to, therefore they deserve to be punished. The army will not kill them, they will just ensure that these illegal gatherings are broken up, to keep innocent people safe.

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-15 20:26

      And all of these worker were taken to the mine under force to work there? These are free men that can walk off the job and go find something better

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-09-16 01:28

      Ten days ago the media announced that Malema’s arrest was imminent. Nothing happened to Malema. He was not arrested and he is still visiting mine after mine inciting violence and revolution in South Africa and the ANC lets him be. Malema's so called banning from the ANC was just a scam. He is still their loyal agent and lapdog, carrying out the true agenda. The biggest mistake people can make is to believe that Malema is anti Zuma. He is Zuma’s big mate and he is a communist apparatchik. Malema being “fired” from the ANC is actually a promotion for him. He was too old for the Youth League anyway and as an “independent” he can carry on pushing the communist/ANC agenda without any fingers being pointed towards them. Who will be the next president is what is currently being played out. The communists want their man in. The NWO faction want their man in. Malema was roped in to escalate the revolutionary level and put the squeeze on the NWO gang. The Marikana Massacre was the result and the official start of the Revolution. The Communist will use every dirty trick in the book to win the race and get what they want. They will use blackmail, coercion, violence, terrorism, strikes, even revolution to bully everyone into submission.

      john.bucknall.1 - 2012-09-16 12:22

      The truth, read this: http://www.marikana-truth.com/

      jay.kganyago.5 - 2012-09-16 17:32

      Even if their grievances are legitimate, does that make it acceptable to destroy other peoples jobs and property, and to murder?

  • lee.parker.39142072 - 2012-09-15 19:56

    Now do your job and protect the country against these ignorant hostage takers.

  • daniewilken - 2012-09-15 19:56

    It's not the miners. It's Zumas lap dog that caused all this grief. malema is smilling. he is saying to himself (Hell i am powerfull) Now they can see how powefull I am. Malema saying to Zuma :And I am still free and I can cause even more damage. Remeber this is our secret plan. Keep me out of jail and I will see that you get your second term Zumie.

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-09-15 20:12

      Easy to solve, ensure fatboy has an "accident".

  • thabo.lekwane.7 - 2012-09-15 20:04

    Its bad 4 those people cz it seemz like every1 in our goverment hv shares at lonmin,Ramphosa hv 50,03 percent n NUM as well maybe Zuma also hv shares hu knws y r they protecting each other so mach.

      nads.delange - 2012-09-15 20:32

      So who will you vote for next election?

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-15 20:32

      And with the next election you fools will just vote for the same corrupted scum bags and then moan about them after the election

      alansmartSnr - 2012-09-15 22:44

      @..thabo.lekwane.7 - If you can't place your comments in decent english then shut up. Learn to write in English or any other language.. Stop writing like a grade 4 mixit. This forum is for adults. A aggree with you but give u a thumbs down for your irritating style.. we are not all juveniles you know..

      nads.delange - 2012-09-16 00:28

      Alan, ever consider that Thabo maybe didn't have the education you did? No need to attack him, he makes a valid point.

      jayjay.mlungu - 2012-09-16 07:00

      If you think carefully, the workers (not just the miners in these mines) probably have shares in these mines through their pension funds anyway. But you are right unfortunately money rules the world

      john.bucknall.1 - 2012-09-16 14:05

      Smart.Allen, FS your English isn't much better. You also need an English lesson or two.

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-15 20:07

    Where is Juju now? He must go and fetch his gun and help these miners!

  • juicecard.tshaka - 2012-09-15 20:13

    heavy handed tactics won`t solve labour disputes, watch this space

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-15 20:33

      But it will force them to demonstrate peacefully without killing one another

      Robin - 2012-09-15 23:24

      labour dispute? think they are just tired of waiting on the anc government to deliver and now the employer must pay cause the anc steals all the money that could be used to improve people's lives.

  • buti.Bambo - 2012-09-15 20:17

    This is war now

      kenneth.chipu - 2012-09-16 00:00

      If this ppl want to die,let them continue with their attitude then saps unit like TRT,NiU,Task force will shoot them with live ammunation

  • linda.linde.735 - 2012-09-15 20:18

    This are TRUE colours of Jacob Zuma.

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-09-15 20:19

    there is no need for soldiers,this is not a war but our govt turn it to war.the leaders of SA stupid

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-15 20:34

      There is also no need for spears and pangas and killing while you protest

  • jan.matsetela - 2012-09-15 20:20

    Hypocrisy in democracy this is dictactatorship

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-09-15 20:21

    we need more soldiers every where until we become cool.

  • abdullah.abdullah.31105 - 2012-09-15 20:25

    To those of you who think this is great news: Is the ANC going to be frog-marching their own voters to the booths with soldiers come next election also? Just asking...

  • Michael - 2012-09-15 20:31

    I have a feeling that intelligence have reported an issue behind this Marikana saga, but on the other hand blacks people must understand that if we are breaking law and order, police and army must intervine, there should be no confusion about that. Army will defend the Country, people are not excecising their rights properly in SA. People are being hacked to death with pangas at Marikana and the media is ignoring that, i dont understand why that does not make news.

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-15 20:39

      The army defend the country against both threats to the country both foreign and domestic

  • Millos Mpofu - 2012-09-15 20:49

    Our citizens need protection. We don't need Monsters in this country and Tribalism. Lets give each other a chance of leading. African leader failed because of Tribalism

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-15 20:59

      Well said Mpofu

      bennie.erwee - 2012-09-15 23:59

      Best comment of all

  • tlouesele.mogoshane - 2012-09-15 21:06

    At last our last line of defence will take over.....peace will prevail.

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-09-15 21:10

    good show them who is boss

  • Mandy Casey - 2012-09-15 21:13

    Now go open the schools

  • thabo.lekwane.7 - 2012-09-15 21:14

    If it ws'nt Juju we would'nt knw about ppl n the so called union who hv shares in lonmin wild we thought that union is talking for workers not to riching themself sis NUM.

      Msika - 2012-09-16 08:22

      Did u copy tht frm Mxit? Lol!!

  • maria.ferreira1234 - 2012-09-15 21:15

    Where is fat boy malema now?

      lee.parker.39142072 - 2012-09-15 21:18

      Eating

  • mlungisi.magada - 2012-09-15 21:15

    More people have died in the Cape Flats in gang wars than were killed by the striking miners in Marikana.Zuma and co. refused to deploy the army in the Cape Flats when Zille asked him.The "intelligence services" could be stoking the violence in the Cape Flats.

      motleleng - 2012-09-15 22:16

      Someone is protecting his/her investment because SAPS did not do enough protection..

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-09-15 23:47

      Tvpillay, methinks you been a the tik boet! Those gangsters are as savage, if not more so than the miners.

      marious.mathekga - 2012-09-16 06:06

      because is DA that came with suggestion. No other reason.

  • warren.mark.92 - 2012-09-15 21:21

    I'm very disappointed in SAPS for requesting assistance from the army ,SAPs are fully equipped and have all the training necessary to deal with the issue at hand ,this is not a problem the army can deal with as they lack training in this certain field .saps I have really lost confidence in ul

      bennie.erwee - 2012-09-16 00:01

      True. The army is trained to use maximum force, that is their core function. On the other hand this may be what is needed.

  • raditshaba.mahasha - 2012-09-15 21:53

    But could not be deployed in Cape Town

  • malesela.franc - 2012-09-15 22:32

    The action which has been taken by the law enforcement is a clear demonstration of the governments commitment to stabilise the country.Law and order should be maintained at all odds, Lonmin Marikana mine workers brought this havoc upon themselves.

  • thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-09-15 22:45

    Where there is war there are soldiers. This mining chaos is a leadership test.

  • malesela.franc - 2012-09-15 22:47

    The action which has been taken by the law enforcement is a clear demonstration of the governments commitment to stabilise the country.Law and order should be maintained at all odds, Lonmin Marikana mine workers brought this havoc upon themselves.

  • matsi.makoro - 2012-09-15 22:54

    Remember when gangs terorised and killed de ppl in cape town?remember when cape town wanted soldiers to be deployed? Remember when nathi mthethwa said\soldiers are not equiped to deal with people\ If you do, Good, wat has changd now? Is zuma going to kill any more of our brothers?

  • Nkosiyam Maxhegwana - 2012-09-15 23:23

    Why they deployed the soldiers but in Cape town Zuma & Mthethwa refused put soldiers on the gangster problem? & now Zuma & his cabinet, they want to kill more mine workers. Zuma his a Dictator.

  • jacob.molife - 2012-09-15 23:37

    These miners formed a war committe/s. Again we all expect govt. to sleep soundly? Sharks!!!

  • tolo.maano - 2012-09-16 00:35

    ZILLE asked zuma and mthethwa to deployed. Soldiers in cape they refused knw they deployed to marikane to kills our brothers and fathers we already lost 44 pls no more killings...

      ipeleng.molaba - 2012-09-16 06:30

      Those 2 r stupid... I jst wish sum1 culd jst supply does pple wth gunz 2 protct demslves. Cz our gvrnmnt has turnd agnst dem..

      jayjay.mlungu - 2012-09-16 07:08

      Ipeleng you want people armed and then beg for no more killing???? Sorry your logic has gone down the drain

  • happy.rikhotso.14 - 2012-09-16 00:46

    My country on wrong hands. Hw can you deploy soldiers to someone who is not fighting but jst carring sticks, machetes and pangas to support them selfs during the strike.

      Erna - 2012-09-16 06:56

      These 'innocent' machetes, spears, pangas and sticks are weapons of war and are used to kill people.

      comrade.shefu - 2012-09-16 08:04

      How can you support yourself with a machete?They must carry placards not weapons.

  • pws69 - 2012-09-16 01:12

    The Arab spring started with just one person who was heavily handled by the state security apparatus. There was a large IFP march in Braamfontein on Friday, we have this, we have all of the multitude of service delivery protests. Up to know, the ANC have turned (mostly) a blind eye to it, in the interests of their self preservation. Now they are attcking their already very angry (not only in Marikana, but all of the country) own people. In many minds they will have turned from liberator to oppressor. We're going to be in for a rocky ride unless something drastic happens. I have no sympathy for this particular bunch at Marikana, who started the bloodshed by killing ten innocent people, but Marikana is becoming very rapidly a rallying cry across the country. The match has been lit, the only question to anwser is who will put it on the very short fuse?

  • Lucky Onkabetse - 2012-09-16 01:28

    it is about time,welldone zuma and nathi this is what is required of you,and if things continue u knw wht 2 do,u can organise a place of safety and start transporting innocent citizens there and leave ppl who want to corrupt our country.if they mess wth u kill them fullstop

  • Tshilidzi Wa Ha Mukhovha - 2012-09-16 02:05

    People did you ever ask yourself these questions. When will these month old strike end? And who is going to stop it? ,The police or the CCMA, Management of Lonmin or The Union Representatives? I don't know now or Now the soldier who are also desperate for their colleagues who are still in suspensions for involving themselves in striking at union building I don't know?

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-09-16 04:11

    We won't hear from Juju for a while, he knows his ass is only one step away from jail. But jail is on his horizon and it will teach him some good lessons.

  • Andre - 2012-09-16 04:57

    Fight fire with fire. The miners started it!

  • don.mug.3 - 2012-09-16 06:30

    A labour dispute turns into a WAR,shame ANC.

  • Erna - 2012-09-16 06:48

    This situation should have been handled long ago. As usual the anc needs to 'investigate the challenge', 'apply its mind', meet and discuss for days; then they come out in full force and say nothing. I wonder if any of these brave (remember by their own admittance the were too scared to speak to their people), have met with Lonmin executive to discuss a solution?

  • joseph.maluleka.18 - 2012-09-16 07:29

    It is strange that on Friday, IFP marched to SABC; almost all those who participated were carrying these so called dangerous weapons. How come the minister of police is not complaining about this. Is IFP licensed to carry these weapons? There is no fearness in the whole matter. The minister has run out of ideas. But is there anything that the leadership ever did to address this real question? I do not remember. Now, one is conered to ask a basic question: Is the leadership capabable of dealing with real social issues? It does not look like it. Their millitary approach will result in unprecedented results and they have to be accountable. Prison will be ideal.

  • ike.molema - 2012-09-16 08:23

    The security forces cannot get involved in what is essentially a labour dispute.This approach endorses the employers prerogative to pay slave wages in the full knowledge that their state partners will support them.Workers should not be intimidated by the state to accept exploitation salaries while platinum mine owners pocket the bulk of undisclosed profits.Where are the unconsolidated annual reports to prove that the mines cannot afford what workers are requesting? The $1500 pm is a pittance by international standards.South African workers have a right to set prices for their national scarce resources just like arabs do with the oil.

  • amos.motsai - 2012-09-16 08:58

    Its about time

  • piet.hannibol - 2012-09-16 09:02

    Woot Woot Gov! Law 1 - 0 Idiots

  • rofhiwa.ronald.1 - 2012-09-16 09:11

    ANC n its chief commander ZUMA is now a laughingstock coz they r now mo confused by malema's move .

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-09-16 09:20

    Has the government gone to war on South African workers? Yep, it is the beginning of the End for the ANC, what is going to happen next as the country moves into martial law.... The ANC is lying once again when they say this is not 'a state of emergency' they have failed South Afrca once again... Have they taken all the bread knifes as well, have they cleared out all the tires, emptied out the paraffin stoves and cars of petrol, The government action is pure vomit, they just have no clue on how to begin approaching this crises, and their actions do more damage to our Nation, just when you think it can't get worse the ANC-farts poop even louder. What a joke... Are they going to arrest these miners and force them down the shafts? This is just going to prolong the strike and will probably cause the strike to extend into other sectors of the economy. As for all the other union leaders putting out anti-announcements, it is really not going well on the ground either. It seems like we are back in the 1970's How long do the government expect to deploy armed forces in and around the mine's???????? Forever? The next thing the Soldiers will be asking for increases, overtime and danger pay... and when they are refused they will also be on strike, EEISh .....at the end of the day it costs the tax payer, to ensure the ANC/Alliance fat cats can keep skimming of the mines.

  • steven.m.armour - 2012-09-16 09:38

    Sounds like old times,but the shoe on the other foot

  • james.strawson.9 - 2012-09-16 09:55

    http://ozziesaffa.blogspot.com/2012/09/south-africa-military-on-high-alert.html

      james.strawson.9 - 2012-09-16 09:57

      Have a look at this before you have faith in the New SADF! ha

  • 009ICE - 2012-09-16 10:23

    The government is full of Hypocrites,No Soldiers wil b deployed to the Cape flats,because nothing that belongs to the colonial masters is at stake!Now SANDF is deployed in Marikana without notice,because the masters are tapping their shoe,or else the political cronies looses the benefits that they get from the wealth beneath the ground!This,is typically how every african state that colonialist have a stake in have failed today!I hope this doesnt escalate to a \state of Emergency\ ...!

  • sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-09-16 10:23

    Hellen Zille asked for the SANDF to cum n help stop the ARMED GANG Warfare in the WCape-That request was denied by BOTH Min Nathi Mthethwa

  • vhonani.nemavhola - 2012-09-16 10:55

    I thought nw da striker wil see dat malema wz using dem bcz hes no lnger bng wtht dem,bcz hes scared of army