News24

Speedster kills boys sleeping next to road

2011-12-29 20:05

Johannesburg - Two teenage boys were killed when a car drove over them on the Vereeniging road near Potchefstroom on Thursday, North West police said.

"The two were allegedly hit by a speeding motor vehicle while sleeping on the road about 20km outside Potchefstroom," Lieutenant Colonel Lesego Metsi said.

The two, aged 16 and 17, and two other friends decided to sleep on the road in the hope that motorists would offer them a lift.

They were hitch-hiking from Potchefstroom to Boipatong in the Vaal area. A black or charcoal VW Jetta with unknown registration plates, travelling towards Vereeniging, drove over them, killing two instantly, around 03:00.

The other two were unhurt. The driver apparently only stopped to pick up his licence plate before fleeing the scene.

The names of deceased were being withheld until their families had been informed.

Comments
  • JudithNkwe - 2011-12-29 20:14

    For crying out loud! My condolences to the parents

      ubhejane - 2011-12-29 21:07

      This story just doesn't make any sense. Kids sleeping on the road? And who says the motorist was speeding? 120 sounds fast when you are standing by the roadside. At 3 in the morning if you suddenly run over people sleeping in the middle of the road I would think he/she was in shock. Lately the reporting on here is creating more questions than answers. I can't get over the story a few weeks ago about the man that smuggled the 13 kids into the country. The first report said 3 kids ran away and 10 were taken to a home for orphans. I never slept that night worrying where the three kids (two boys and a girl) were. The next morning we were told on here that it was three adults that ran away and all 13 kids were safe. So my question is now, how much of this report is fact? Were they sleeping ON the road or NEXT to the road as the headline says?????

      Squeegee - 2011-12-29 21:24

      If they were lying on the road how can the motorist be blamed? Where were their parents? Whay are teenagers out at that time?

      Anthony Faul - 2011-12-29 22:39

      Ubejane I Agee with you 100%. It dies not make it better but the writer of this story wants sensation.

      Hans - 2011-12-30 07:52

      Sleeping on the road or pretending to be hurt is a method used by hijackers. The motorist must have probably thought that this was the case.If he stopped to pick his number plate up, then surely they would have recognised some digits or letters of his plate?

      Henk - 2011-12-30 08:25

      @Hans - I agree. It sounds like a highjack attempt that gone sour. Years ago, there was a story where one man pretended to be hurt, laying in the road while his accomplices hid in the grass. The motorist swerved off the road to avoid the "injured" man, only to run over and killing the accomplices. Not sure if the story was true, but this incident surely sounds like the same kind of thing.

      Craig - 2011-12-30 08:36

      to all the people that thumbs downed this comment are you smoking your socks or are you just plain dumb ??

      goyougoodthing - 2011-12-30 11:24

      Sleeping on the road = stupidity of note. Speed is not a factor here, stupid children out late at night is the cause.

  • Carla - 2011-12-29 20:15

    Sleeping on the road. Thats a Darwin Award.

      Gareth Jones - 2011-12-29 20:33

      Wishing that on someone's family makes you worse than the person who hit the boys.

      Pieter - 2011-12-29 20:49

      Besides that - an old trick. Lie in the road and when a concerned motorist stops you jump up with your two buddies hiding in the bush and - bingo after beating the crap out of the good samaritan, you can drive home with drink-money,a cellphone and a watch.It happens frequently on certain roads.

      Shoosh - 2011-12-29 21:06

      @Bart get over yourself with your nonsensical comments. "..they were trying to get home and did not have money." therefore according tour logic they were right to sleep in the road @ night?

      marileigh.pienaar - 2011-12-29 21:11

      I feel sad for the families of the boys. But at the same time I agree: who sleeps in the middle of the road? Next to the road - fine! But on the road?! This is only normal behavior for a team of highjackers trying their luck on a quiet road.

      Squeegee - 2011-12-29 21:22

      B(f)art. Go lie on the road at 3AM.

      Jean - 2011-12-30 08:02

      @ Gareth and Shoosh. If I put a string on a door knob, and the other end to the trigger of a gun aimed at my face. someone then opens the door and I get killed. Will the person that opens the door be held responsible? or will I be to blame. Sleeping on a highway is just moronic to say the least. Carla was not wishing it on anyone's family you ninny. Have you ever heard of the "Darwin awards" it is for people that die in absolute stupid ways, like SLEEPING on a freeking highway.

      Shoosh - 2011-12-30 17:58

      @Jean please read my comment again, I am in agreement with Carla's comment & consider the deceased kids action to be stupid. My reply was to Bart (comment deleted/removed) which I quoted part of, being "..they were trying to get home and did not have money." hence the inverted commas.

  • Daryl - 2011-12-29 20:16

    how dumb can you be

      Daryl - 2011-12-29 20:37

      Bart, How can you be sleeping on the road? How can you commit such a hideous crime and drive away, therefore my comment. find out your facts.

      Anthony - 2011-12-29 20:47

      bart daryl,s comment is not dumb, I will never teach my children to sleep on the side of any road at night or day no matter what. trucks, taxis and cars, they all use that part of the road.

      Shoosh - 2011-12-29 21:08

      @Bart the old saying that it is better to keep quiet & let people think you are an idiot than open your mouth (or post a comment) & prove it.

      Pieter - 2011-12-30 21:24

      Someone with the name of Bart (Simpson) must be stupid.

  • Norah Kwatala - 2011-12-29 20:31

    Stupidity at it's best.

      Grant - 2011-12-30 11:33

      At least we are strengthening the gene pool!

  • Bart - 2011-12-29 20:32

    these poor kids are not gonna another birthday, how does that make you feel. oh ya you are warm in house, eating leftovers. think of others you bloody idiots. pooor pooor kids.

      Shoosh - 2011-12-29 21:13

      @Bart give it up already, you have tried repeatedly to make your point albeit irrational. The amount of 'o's that you use in poor doesn't make it any more tragic.

      Wesley - 2011-12-30 05:48

      I will call it cleaning of the gene pool. Stupidity must be removed

      goyougoodthing - 2011-12-30 11:46

      Stupid kids or hijackers.

      Pieter - 2011-12-30 21:25

      Bart Simpson, please find something else to comment on.

  • Ben S - 2011-12-29 20:33

    If they were on the road it must have been an accidental hit, but then he should not have left the scene.

      Anthony - 2011-12-29 20:49

      true

      SergeD69 - 2011-12-29 21:01

      In this new SA of ours? Call your lawyer to ensure that the SAPS do everything by the books. Drive to the nearest police station. Report it and then return to the accident scene with your lawyer and the SAPS. Would newer know if it was a setup.

      TamaraSays - 2011-12-30 02:59

      Then again, at 3AM, if you drive over something on a deserted road in South Africa, would you stop to see what it was? All sounds fishy to me.

      Jean - 2011-12-30 08:08

      Totally disagree with Ben. However, if the claim is that he stopped to pick up his licence plate ? if he drove over them ? how far must he have got before the car stopped. At night, how was he supposed to know what he hit. It could have been a dog. Also if I was him. I would not even have stopped for my number plate. I would have got on my phone ( YES while driving and I know it is wrong) contacted the police and informed them. To often you hear of people stopping just to be high jacked, raped and killed.

      Gail - 2011-12-30 10:26

      If it was a potential hijacking scenario then he would not hang about waiting for someone to jump him and beat him up. He would presumably drive to the next police station and seek help. The whole report is fishy. 16/17 y.o ;s sleeping on the road? Or lying next to the road or were there two others lying next to the road who were lying in wait and witnessed what happened.

  • Princesa Xzaviera - 2011-12-29 20:36

    :( dammit man! 'Picked up his license plate and fled the scene"!!! Noooooo! We are all people! Not owning up is the same as cannabilism... They're not animals! I hope you don't get caught! I hope you don't turn yourself in, but I DO HOPE that you are haunted by those two boys souls all the time! I hope you see them next to your bed at night. In your rearview mirror everytime you look back and especially in your reflection everytime you catch it in a reflective surface! You are a PIG!!!

      Piet - 2011-12-30 07:54

      Princesa ... sigh that the driver picked up his license plate or was speeding is based on hearsay , thus not proven at all. so your wishes of doom and despair is for a person not yet proven guilty of anything !! this makes you even worse than the driver, this makes you the proverbial person that throws the first stone.. this makes you the person that judged others.. this makes you the bad guy!!! maybe the driver was a lady, scared to death by daily headlines of hi jackings, rape and murder. come on princesa wake up and smell the coffee, your comment reeks of ignorance .

      Gail - 2011-12-30 10:32

      I do wonder why if you were scared to death you would actually stop and pick up a number plate? Wouldn't you just get the hell away from there. Not reporting it at the first opportunity tends to indicate that perhaps alcohol was involved and maybe the person will still come forward when there is no chance of being charged with DUI.

  • Djim - 2011-12-29 20:39

    So speed gets the blame? Immagine what a reversing interlink would do to somebody sleeping in it's path?

  • Sechaba - 2011-12-29 20:45

    This is insane, I never expect to see people sleeping on the road at night, even if I happen to see them I would speed off because that could be another trap.

  • Win - 2011-12-29 20:46

    This is both unfortunate and unwanted. These were only kids, but the driver might have been unsighted. The lights of a car would not picked them up at a acceptable speed. No one can ask to have people sleeping in the middle of the road, never mind that time of night. My condolences to the families involved .

      kikisian - 2011-12-30 08:43

      Have you driven that road? There are no lights and more potholes than road the last time I drove it. With the amount of open veld next to the road - it is a huge wonder why they decided to sleep next to the road intead a few meters into the veld.

      roger.pacey - 2011-12-30 18:14

      You are supposed to drive at a speed at which you are able to stop within the range of your lights. If the driver couldn't do that, he or she was driving too fast. Mitigating factors would include whether the victims were wearing dark outfits, road conditions and how far out in the road the victims were.

  • Gideon - 2011-12-29 20:50

    Um, why were they sleeping in the road? Roads are for vehicles, not sleeping last time I checked. Would you have managed to avoid them in the dark at 3AM? No? Of course not!

  • Jean-Paul - 2011-12-29 20:51

    I suspect the driver might have been drunk hence he did not stop and call the Police however if they were not sleeping on the road the accident would never have happened. May these two boys and the over 1,000 people already dead on our roads this Festive(Crazy)season RIP

      John - 2011-12-30 15:59

      Wondered when someone would blame it on alcohol....

  • Hester - 2011-12-29 20:54

    Yes, maybe the driver was wrong in not investigating, but with the high incidence of crime and people getting killed in fake accidents like this, who says the driver did not go to his police station and reported the accident. As far as I know, you have 24 hours in which to report an accident. According to this, they were sleeping ON the road, not even next to it... that is utter stupidity. Yes, it is horribly, terribly sad that they have been killed, but this is ultra poor reporting.

      SergeD69 - 2011-12-29 21:14

      From a young age we teach our children to stay off roads, look out for cars, look left-right-left when crossing a road. It's common sense not to sleep on a road. In this new SA of ours it seems that the schools should teach the most basic things: do not sleep in roads, stop when you make an accident, treat blind people with respect, do not make bomb threats, etc. Can the 21st century man do not think for themselves?

      Mitchell Nortje - 2011-12-29 21:56

      If they really wanted a lift and had normal brains they would stand up and wave down cars, not lie in the way. And if they were tired, don't lie in the road, don't lie next to the road, lie far away coz a car can still stray.

  • Leo Morena - 2011-12-29 21:00

    They were sleeping on the side of the road? Totally stupid

  • fpstevens - 2011-12-29 21:06

    Speeding Motorist? Common, The title should be "Smart Motorist does not fall for Hijack attempt". So many people here commenting on the poor little kids, the little angels were probably waiting for some sucker to stop so they could kill him and his family and drive off with his car.

      Njabulo Wela - 2011-12-29 21:47

      I reckon the two "survivors" were hiding in the bushes, waiting. That's why they were able to tell what model ran the others over; they definitely weren't sleeping.

      Gerda - 2011-12-29 21:56

      I must agree something does not sound right. Think this was a attempt to hyjack a sucker in the middle of the night.

      Jean - 2011-12-30 08:12

      Now if the driver swerved out to miss the "bait" in the road, he would have killed the other two high jackers in the bushes. ( Only speculation), but the more likely situation.

  • evamaritha.bergman - 2011-12-29 21:13

    What a real big chicken who could do something like this. It´s disgusting. Poor guys and their parents.

      Azurite - 2011-12-30 06:07

      Not the brightest spark in the box hey Eva? Why were the kids sleeping on the road? Would you sleep on a road? Think think think!!!

  • Sipo - 2011-12-29 21:32

    sleeping on the road @ 3.00 am.lets be realistic,if u were the driver, would u be expecting people 2b asleep on the road at any time for that matter,of course not,if that happens the 1st thing that will come 2 mind if that happens is hijack-ing.i once saw a tv advert,a bear was hitch hikin the driver stopped more bears came from the bushes.

  • Mitchell Nortje - 2011-12-29 21:40

    I wouldn't offer people a lift if they were standing up with their thumb out, let alone people lying down sleeping on the road. I can barely see joggers at night(with out reflectives) running, so if I was driving I wouldn't see people sleeping. At least keep one awake to flag down cars. Now we need new signs to add to the learners book, watch out for pedestrians and people sleeping in the road.

  • Nico Randy Van Zyl - 2011-12-29 22:05

    Sleeping on the road at 3am = suicide

      Mitchell Nortje - 2011-12-29 22:11

      4 people lying in the road @ 3am sounds like hijackers

  • tom.s.rand - 2011-12-29 22:19

    aside from the connotations as to why's & wherefore my heart goes out to the parents & family. what ever the situation death is a bad thing & should be treated as such, also the 2 others are more than likely in a worse state than the driver.

      Mitchell Nortje - 2011-12-29 22:28

      Stupidity is no excuse.

      Mitchell Nortje - 2011-12-29 22:28

      Stupidity is no excuse.

  • Anthony Faul - 2011-12-29 22:33

    @ News24, Why the headline "speedster kills boys......" If they were sleeping in the road at 3am legal speed (or even less) will do the same.

      Mitchell Nortje - 2011-12-29 22:41

      Headline should read: stupid kids sleep in road and innocent driver gets the blame for running them over.

  • frikdt - 2011-12-29 23:04

    In conclusion, one of the more interesting reports (and comments) I've read in a long time: The story's heading and content, taken together, provide irrefutable proof (at a macro level) of quantum theory's postulate that an object can be at two places at the same time (NEXT TO the road and IN the road). The reporter and/or the survivors had access to advanced equipment and/or skills in order to determine (in the darkness of the night) that the driver was speeding. Bart has a wonderful repertoire of expressions that varies from 'poooor kids' to 'you're an idiot' to '(I hope) you/your family will be next'. The victims have set new standards in stupidity, in which case I agree with Carla about the Darwin award OR the victims were planning a hijacking, in which case I have no sympathy with them at all.

      Azurite - 2011-12-30 06:08

      Now here is a person that can think! Great comment.

      Mildly_Amused - 2011-12-30 10:51

      Haha Schrodinger's Cat much?

  • Pietman Kahl - 2011-12-29 23:13

    That road has a speed limit of 120 km/h. The only problem is that the guy stopped to pick up his number plate, otherwise you could believe that he was scared of an attempted hijacking.

      kikisian - 2011-12-30 08:47

      Well that is what the witnesses claim - and if your friends are sleeping in the road and you see the lights of a car - why would you not move your friends?

  • Mitchell Nortje - 2011-12-29 23:28

    Can I just point out. Like someone said, the speed limit was 120. So if the driver was speeding he was obviously going way over that. So assuming the number plate did fall off, the driver would have been quite far passed the number plate. They would have to reverse/pull over and go back to get the plate. To me its the word of two stupid survivors agaisnt a driver that will never be found out.

  • riaancillie - 2011-12-29 23:39

    Who wrote this rubbish? The article claims the motorist was speeding. How do they know that? Also the headline says "Speedster kills boys sleeping NEXT TO road", the article states "sleeping ON THE ROAD". The headline is completely misleading. The journalist who came up with this piece of rubbish should really consider getting some other kind of day job. As for the kids sleeping on the road, it just shows: speed doesn't kill, stupidity does.

      gbbfg - 2011-12-30 04:44

      Absolutely right. I'm not sure where they find these people but perhaps there is a job for some of us at News24. You clearly don't need an education. In fact, not having one puts you at a clear advantage.

  • Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-30 00:09

    Is it possible that the driver, on a dark road, MAY have thought that he had hit a pothole or something other than kids? I mean, were they standing up sleeping with orange cones on their heads? Were they wearing reflective clothing? I am sorry to hear about this, any life lost is a tragedy but once again people are equally savage in condemnation as some heartless criminals are in commision of crimes

  • M.j. Swanepoel - 2011-12-30 00:23

    why oh why would you sleep on the road??? Car + speed + stupidity = instant death

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-12-30 05:59

    WTF. On the road or next to the road. Rather idiotic thing to do, sleep on the road. The driver should not of left the scene.

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-12-30 05:59

    WTF. On the road or next to the road. Rather idiotic thing to do, sleep on the road. The driver should not of left the scene.

  • Jaco - 2011-12-30 06:13

    who says he was speeding... I would of stayed, but if I was to be found guilty like this of speeding and "murder" by the morning I would also of considered collecting my plate and leaving... sleeping on the road, not very clever of them or the people that told them it was a good idea.

  • Silvana - 2011-12-30 07:01

    This story doesn't make sense. Why were they sleeping on the road and not at the side of the road. If this is true and I had been the driver, I would have thought it was a trap to make me stop and get out of my car. It's happened before.

  • Piet - 2011-12-30 07:39

    the heading is just to grab attention... how did the reporter measure the vehicles speed to determine it was speeding? even the driver stopping to pick up his numberplate is hearsay based on information of stupid people sleeping on the road. my humble opinion is: this was a botched hi jacking and the driver can count himself lucky to be alive. and to bart.. you dumb f#cknut , learn to spell.

  • Trevor - 2011-12-30 07:42

    Sleeping on a road at night...in the dark....idiots...sorry how can you have sympathy for these guys?????As for Speeding, what a STUPID headline News24...what you basing your claims on...some Lt Col ignorant statements based on his vast experience of what..come now this is not reporting!

  • Claude - 2011-12-30 07:51

    How can you say it is a speedster if in previous reports it is stated the two boys slept in the middle of the road, now it is reported next to the road. Please get the facts correct when you place an artical. The boys themself are to blame for this. Stay of the road

  • Obakeng Molobi - 2011-12-30 07:51

    Our politicians are clowns, our national teams are doing bad, our girls are drug mules....looks like our journalists have also joined the mickey mouse club.

      Piet - 2011-12-30 08:00

      haha well said..

  • jjlambrechts - 2011-12-30 08:13

    Maybe the headline should read: Innocent driver takes blame for running over boys sleeping on the road!

  • samuelbowker - 2011-12-30 08:55

    Two less idiots (and possibly criminals) in the country. We have a long way to go.

  • Humble - 2011-12-30 08:55

    So how do they deduce that they driver was speeding? Sleeping next to the side of the road...? sleep in the rd & you're more than likely going to be hit by a car! Seriously now

  • lerato.selane - 2011-12-30 09:05

    IOL reports these boys were in the middle of the road. They look more likely to be ranover there compared to the side of the road where news24 is reporting. I also think this could have been attempt of hijack went wrong. I wouldn't have stopped either. The driver should have went to report the incident though.http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/two-boys-die-sleeping-in-middle-of-road-1.1206117

  • Simon - 2011-12-30 09:12

    I fully agree with most of you all , but to sleep in the middle of the road for whatever reason is just stupid, there is nothing common about sense . If the were sleeping on the pathway next to the road and the driver swerved out , it was a different story. The driver did nothing wrong , he was driving and even if he drove 80km/h they would still be dead. so guys when you rea read something , be realistic

  • Katlego - 2011-12-30 09:35

    My uncle was hijacked years ago using the same tactics, one guy was lying onthe middle of the road pretending to be injured while his buddies waited in the bushes. he stopped to offer assistance to the guy and the other two jumped him robbed hi of his belongings and took his car. news 24 please clarify..

  • Jason - 2011-12-30 09:42

    Sick bastard, kids - not the wisest move sleeping close to the street I am afraid, condolences to the families!!

  • alobar.prunesqualler - 2011-12-30 11:10

    Strange! If they were sleeping on the road then is the driver to blame? Seems like a ridiculous thing to have done. My condolences to the families of the two victims, but for goodness sake, how stupid can you be?

  • Sipo - 2011-12-30 13:48

    I asume the boys were black and the driver was white,now everyone is defending a white driver,what if the boys were white and driver was black,the abuse would be targeted at the driver

      John - 2011-12-30 14:45

      stupid Sipo now why dont you go sleep on the road..

      John - 2011-12-30 14:48

      What Sipo meant to say was ..The hijackers where black and the intended victim was white... too bad he did not use his reverse gear and get the other 2

      debbi.scheun - 2011-12-30 14:52

      Oh please Sipo, when are you people going to get over the racial issue and stop blaming everything on apartheid. It makes me sick!!

      Piet - 2011-12-30 16:23

      haha Sipo... i think with ANY incident or tragedy in our lovely country , some idiot like you will see it as a racial issue some time or another. Whats next? Come on Sipo blame it on the previous regime or the colonials introducing tarred roads... there should not have been roads to enable the boys to sleep on? right Sipo? its your poisoning attitude that is the problem in our country . You dwis.

      frikdt - 2011-12-30 21:51

      @Sipo: You are right in your assumption that the boys were black. The fact that hey were on their way to Boipatong leaves a clue, and the fact that their names have been released on another news site leaves no doubt. However, no details about the driver have been disclosed, except that he or she had been driving a black or charcoal coloured VW Jetta, which means that the driver could have been as black as those boys or yourself. Regarding your accusation of others being racist, I suggest that you go read up on the term "Psychological projection" or "Freudian projection," (in essence it may described as "a defense mechanism in which one attributes to others one’s own unacceptable or unwanted attributes, thoughts, or emotions").

      Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-31 03:14

      I do not give a fig if the driver was Chinese or Zebra striped! I would like to know why you, Sipo, ALSO assumed they were black? Isn't it rascist also to assume they were black simply because they did something like this? Are you such a rascist that you cannot even conceive of four white boys who could do this too?

  • roger.pacey - 2011-12-30 18:25

    SergeD69 wrote "From a young age we teach our children to stay off roads, look out for cars, look left-right-left when crossing a road. " When cars drive on the left, your kerb drill is look RIGHT, LEFT and RIGHT again. Don't feel too badly, though; the road safety radio ad got it wrong at first

  • Marais Van den Berg - 2011-12-30 18:47

    Sounds like a hijack-gone-bad to me. I wouldn't have stopped either. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know not to sleep in the road. Sounds like a lame excuse to me. And can the journalist who so blithely makes sweeping statements just clarify WHERE were the boys and WHERE was the car driving when it hit them?

  • hannesw1 - 2011-12-30 19:42

    Oh my gosh, everything that happens now is by a "speeding driver"...I guess there was a speed trap nearby?

  • Philip - 2011-12-31 14:31

    sleeping on the road!!!. I rest my case.

  • Stuart - 2012-06-13 07:43

    Attempted Hi-jacking gone wrong?

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