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Students kicked out of campus dorms

2012-05-31 13:02

Durban - More than 70 students were kicked out of dormitories in a South Coast college for refusing to follow Islamic customs and rules, The Mercury reported on Thursday.

Management at the Coastal As-Salaam campus, in Braemar near Umzinto, allegedly forced students in the dormitories to study the Qur'an and wear Muslim clothes.

They were reportedly not allowed to carry bibles inside the premises.

The students at the further education training college went on strike two weeks ago and lectures were suspended until Tuesday.

Those living in dormitories were told to find accommodation outside the institution.

The students, who are funded by the higher education department's national student financial aid scheme, told The Mercury they could not afford to pay for accommodation and meals as they came from poor families.

The head of the Coastal Central further education and training college, Patche Tigere, said he could not comment, but was working to resolve the matter.

Higher education spokesperson Vuyelwa Qinga said the department was in talks with college management and education officials in the province.

Comments
  • rbphiri - 2012-05-31 13:10

    What are they turning the South Coast college into an Al Qaeda training camp. You can't force people into a certain religion or merely segregate people on the basis of religion.

      Piet - 2012-05-31 13:17

      I don't understand why people insist on being included in certain institutions or activies that are based on those people's religious/traditions or beliefs. If they know this is a muslim universaty, why not go somewhere else??? Just like that black girl wanting to join that Afrikaner Hockey event. WTF! These people are just looking for reasons to start race/religious wars. Just stay away from thse places!

      Peter-Peter - 2012-05-31 13:50

      Piet, these people have that 'victim' logic. That 'freedom', the ANC promised them, had very small print with the T&C's...i take it that they understood that 'freedom' was applied to EVERYTHING...from schooling to taking over high profile jobs, with minimal education and understanding. They seem to believe that the world owes them everything...like squatters moving onto private land

      ludlowdj - 2012-05-31 13:56

      the students should have though of that before signing up at an Islamic institution then hey?

      Eternity - 2012-05-31 14:00

      @Piet I think that since they come from poorer homes they don't many opitions open to them.

      E=MC2 - 2012-05-31 14:16

      INFADELS

      molise.moloi.7 - 2012-05-31 14:20

      Oh Peter-Peter, do you mean like white people invading Africa, the US, and South America? RPhiri, the Al Qaeda blanket statement is also below the belt...

      Rob - 2012-05-31 14:44

      @RPhiri...Lol. Brilliant. @molise...We came we saw, we conquered, we ruled, we built and now it's all yours. Enjoy ! No, no...No need for thanks. You guys deserve it with the effort you have put in.

      John - 2012-05-31 15:47

      @ Piet... while my tax is being spent/used/donated at any educational institute, then they have no right to enforce their radical religious beliefs.

  • Mtk.the.poet - 2012-05-31 13:13

    Anti-Christ, though shall payeth

      Mike - 2012-05-31 13:52

      pffff

      Martin - 2012-05-31 14:08

      ME THINKS THE CHURCHIES ARE THE ONLY ONES PAYING, paying out their hard earned money to beggars with a collar, wtf does the almighty god need money for ?

  • siyanda.myende - 2012-05-31 13:13

    They'll talk to them? That's all we ever do in this country, talk. It's wrong to force people to follow your beliefs. Rather have a private institution that doesn't receive any funding from the government if you can't stand people who believe in something different.

      Kenny Bianco - 2012-05-31 13:28

      that's rubbish, if it's Muslim school then they musnt get any funding from SA government, y dont they make it private?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-31 13:41

      Exactly... anything funded by government (taxpayers money) should be free from religious or cultural connotation. Another example of this inequality is that fat Zulu "king" getting R60mil a year for the upkeep of his supposed kingdom, while the other kings of this country don't even get 10% of that. It is unequal that religious institutions get special government funding, yet non-religious institutions do not (compared to the amount religious institutions receive). Everything should be equal. Also, if there is a Muslim only university, what is stopping other groups from wanting to set up other segregated institutions (eg. black only, Indian only, Chinese only, Xhosa only etc...)

      dave.leverton - 2012-05-31 13:47

      It's a private Islamic school. Only the non-muslim students are funded by the education department.

      Bryan - 2012-05-31 13:49

      It's fine for every other ethnic group wesley.... it's only racist when a wittou does it....Sad but true!!

      siyanda.myende - 2012-05-31 13:54

      Kenny, no where in the article is in mentioned that it's a Muslim school. Since they're able to receive NSFAS for their students, then obviously it's a public school. My point is if you want to force people to your religion, then have in some dark hole privately. We don't specify which religious group our money should go to when we pay tax.

      dave.leverton - 2012-05-31 14:04

      http://www.assalaam.co.za 100% muslim school

      siyanda.myende - 2012-05-31 14:13

      Erm... Dave, so that justifies them abusing other people's right to their religious beliefs? Muslim, Christian or whatever. Fact is that it's a public school and it receives funding from all groups, even us \evil\ atheists. It's really rich coming from people who always claim that everyone else is intolerant of their beliefs.

      Riad - 2012-05-31 15:14

      @siyanda.myende: for the sake of not looking foolish to the people thats familiar with this particular campus, please refer to “dave.leverton” suggestion and click on the web link he provided on his post and after perusing this website, I think you would be well equipped to make a more decisive comment.

      siyanda.myende - 2012-05-31 15:26

      Riad, you say that because you think I haven't referred to Dave's link? For the sake of not looking like an uneducated man, how about you get your facts right before throwing insults. Again: NSFAS is only awarded to students who attend public schools, not private. It may be a Muslim school, but it's a public school non the less.

      Riad - 2012-05-31 15:52

      @siyanda.myebde: maybe you should question NSFAS why they funding students attending a "Charitable Educational Institution" instead of a public school. For sake of clarity, this is by no means a public school to which please take note.

      siyanda.myende - 2012-05-31 20:20

      Rian, get this right. One: It's a public school and that's a fact, maybe you need to refer to Dave's link. Two: NSFAS funds students registered public schools. Three: Everyone who attends a public higher education institution is subsidised by the government, that includes the Muslim students who don't receive NSFAS funding. Otherwise the fees would be much higher. So everyone who goes to a public school is partly funded by a tax payer, which is why I say it's wrong to turn away children who aren't Muslim.

  • luvo.luvos - 2012-05-31 13:20

    If this story is proven to be true, then shame on those perpetrators who practice religious supremacy. Surely democracy makes allowance for the individual's choice of religious affiliation. Why force something upon someone's throat??

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-31 13:43

      That is the mission statement of (most) religious groups. Force your beliefs on others, while indoctrinating children at the same time.

  • Chris - 2012-05-31 13:29

    If that was a christian campus and they did that to a Muslim ?

      Luna - 2012-05-31 17:38

      Then of course it would be fine Chris. In fact, they would probably have the support of most of this site's readers. Remember, it's not persecution if you're doing it to someone else. I feel I need to make a note about the heavy sarcasm dripping off every one of those words, just so we're all on the same page.

  • dave.leverton - 2012-05-31 13:29

    It's an Islamic school. Why would any non-muslim attend an Islamic school ?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-31 13:44

      The same reason i had Jewish, Hindu and Muslim schoolmates at my predominantly christian school...

      dave.leverton - 2012-05-31 14:05

      This is a private muslim school. You won't find muslims and christians at a private jewish school would you ?

      siyanda.myende - 2012-05-31 14:24

      Why do you keep saying it's a private school? NSFAS is only awarded to students who attend public schools, not private. It may be a Muslim school, but it's a public school non the less.

      Bibi - 2012-05-31 18:42

      Its not a private Islamic school,its state funded.Read the article properly please.

  • Gemmy - 2012-05-31 13:31

    As salaam college- its very name tells you it has Islamic links. So why the big fuss? If it was an xstian based college would they allow me to walk around in my parda and my prayer beads and my Quraan?

      kim.t.lochner - 2012-05-31 13:43

      Gemmy I agree fully .@bloodbane seriously freedom of speech yes but disrespect 4 peoples beliefs are just low . I'm a God fearing person but I don't go around bashing athiest. 2 each its own if u have no respect 4 other u certainly don't have respect 4 urself so please think before you speak and be mindful of our multi-cultural and multi-religious world we live in

      Felix - 2012-05-31 13:56

      Nice sentiment Kim, but your bias showed through and you bashed on an atheist... Just saying.

  • Defenderfujvfk - 2012-05-31 13:39

    most students (including muslims) are subjected to christian practises in public schools on a daily basis (choir, bible at assembly etc.) But its usually the first to kick a fuss that grabs the headline. EARLY BIRD...

  • Judith - 2012-05-31 13:41

    This is unconstitutional and should be heavily censored

      Piet - 2012-05-31 13:51

      OMW!!!! Watch out people... We have another ANC member here wanting to give their 2 cents.

      Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-05-31 14:21

      @Piet,are ANC members not allowed to voice their opinions here?Never new News24 is for DA members only,sorry for replying to you my friend as a member of the ANC.

  • Mike - 2012-05-31 13:43

    If you want a proper education go to a secular institution.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-31 13:57

    All those who follow religious rites and practices are religious people. They know no God, no Faith, no Love.

  • Muhammad - 2012-05-31 14:02

    This is an Islamic Institute. So why did they allow christains to stay here? Those Muslims incharge are leaning a lesson. Long ago I said this u must jst see the children dat come from thr. They not intrested in any of the the Islamic duties like 'prayer' wich is compasory. This is good but bad news for me.

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-31 14:08

      Yet one of my Roman catholic schools I went to had no problem with Muslim students practicing their traditions and faith. Tolerant aren't we?

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-31 15:57

      Yes ! They must go their own way ! We want nothing to do with them ! How can we learn to hate them properly when they are under the same roof as us? Let us be pure in our religious Apartheid.

  • buti.lembe - 2012-05-31 14:08

    They did agree b4 to follow the rules of the school. If you're in Rome do as the Romans do.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-31 14:13

    FFS, When in Rome do as the Romans... when you sign up to an insititute that is entirely orienteated to a certain religion you must follow and respect their rules. If this is not your religion, WTF are you doing there in the first place?

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-31 16:09

      Wrong or not. I don't care. Children had to void their religious starting of their school day, in their school, because 3 of these religion's children started to attend the school and the 1000+ other children "were stepping" on these 3 kids rights. The department insist on allowing all kids. The parents had to agree to it. They had to swallow it now these must too. Fair is fair!!!

  • Abdul - 2012-05-31 14:15

    As Salaam is an Islamic institution and hence Islamic laws need to be followed. This is clearly indicated to potential students, BEFORE they sign up. Pretty much like enrolling at a convent school and then expecting to hear the 'muslim call to prayer'>>>

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-31 14:41

      Where on the website can I find your claims? It's simply intolerant. If you consider them to be sinners because of their beliefs, leave it at that. Let Allah be the judge, unless you believe that a human is allowed to decide for god.

  • tony.kirby1 - 2012-05-31 14:19

    Having had a lokk at their web site, it is a satelite campus of one of the FET colleges in KZN. Says nothing about religion and course given are motor mech and electrical and so on.

  • daniel.motlhatlhedi - 2012-05-31 14:19

    Blade stop boycoting city press and do sunthng in your department. Islam

  • Matthew - 2012-05-31 14:27

    Wow.so now its fine that a collage that sponsors people to study (otherwise no moneys for it) and later on,catch 22 comes out "you have to become muslim" .Surprised there isnt an uproar about this,or a massive protest.

  • bosthi - 2012-05-31 14:45

    You know what!!! To hell with religion because this is the reason why we see in colours. Just because one practices a different kind of belief either than yours that automatically gives you reason to deny him/her education. Huh??? Thought that this is a free country and education is free for all. I'm really upset about this because this issue is the reason Somalia can't find PEACE!!!

  • Carla - 2012-05-31 14:48

    From their website: The original objective of As-Salaam as expounded by the Trustees and which are relevant to this day are: To equip missionaries of Islam to preach to the various peoples of South Africa and enable them to talk intelligently about Islam. To teach new Muslims the rudiments of Islam and stress the practical side of the religion. To empower through education, training and mentoring. Da'wah by means of Power Point and other Audio visual methods is given at Clinics, schools and Doctor's waiting rooms

      John - 2012-05-31 15:19

      Nowhere do I read that you are not allowed to read your bible.

  • Carla - 2012-05-31 14:52

    Also from their website: Islam is in crisis in South Africa. It is unacceptable that after over 300 years of the presence of Muslims in South Africa only 2% of the country's population of about 40 million is Muslim. The majority of these Muslims are "foreigners" and not from among the local populace. Hitherto, the Muslims have failed to take the message of Islam to the resident people.

  • Don - 2012-05-31 14:53

    Can you imagine the comments if they had of been forced out of an Afrikaans dorm.........

      Don - 2012-05-31 15:00

      Ooops, ...sorry...there aren't any anymore...they are not allowed...my bad

  • Don - 2012-05-31 14:54

    Oooops, sorry....I forgot, those are not allowed anymore.......my bad

  • Bibi - 2012-05-31 18:50

    This is not Pakistan/Peshawar/Kabul or whatever - Islamic superiority does not apply.

  • Asavela - 2012-05-31 22:14

    My question is that, does this mean now, wits, rhodes, and cut will force the non Jewish people to read the Jewish bible, does it mean Muslim should have their own universities in this country. If we allow such behaviors, as difficult as it is travelling through the Islam countries, we are taking our country towards a wrong direction

  • adrian.hanna.5 - 2012-05-31 23:19

    I lived through "those days". However "these days" 18 yrs later seem to surpass "those days". Wonder WHY??? RAINBOW NATION???

  • thulo.thabiso - 2012-06-01 01:03

    when you abide yourself with rules and regulations of the institution; you signing up for values that guides: plegarism, personal conduct mayb discipline, acardemic performence say repeating one module more than twice is prohited, sick tests

  • thulo.thabiso - 2012-06-01 01:33

    when you abide yourself with rules and regulations of the institution; you signing up for values that guides: plegarism, personal conduct mayb discipline, acardemic performence say repeating one module more than twice is prohited, sick tests

  • thulo.thabiso - 2012-06-01 01:33

    when you abide yourself with rules and regulations of the institution; you signing up for values that guides: plegarism, personal conduct mayb discipline, acardemic performence say repeating one module more than twice is prohited, sick tests

  • muruti.malungana - 2012-06-01 07:49

    U cant throw out students because they disagree with qur'an principles..i,ll never respect a qura'n if it has to be misuse by ppl who opress others in its name.That is religious intolerance. I dnt believe in the qur'an, i dnt want to see it next to me no to read it but i respect arab as ppl. Cant we tolerate others who refuse to be converted by showing them luv. South africa is govern by its constitution not the qur,an.

  • muruti.malungana - 2012-06-01 07:51

    U cant throw out students because they disagree with qur'an principles..i,ll never respect a qura'n if it has to be misuse by ppl who opress others in its name.That is religious intolerance. I dnt believe in the qur'an, i dnt want to see it next to me no to read it but i respect arab as ppl. Cant we tolerate others who refuse to be converted by showing them luv. South africa is govern by its constitution not the qur,an.

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