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Teen gang-raped by 5 men

2011-12-27 13:21

Polokwane - A 16-year-old girl has been gang-raped at Shongwane village outside Lephalale, Limpopo police said on Tuesday.

Lieutenant Colonel Mohale Ramatseba said the girl and her boyfriend, 18, were on their way home from a tavern on Monday night when they were confronted by five men who assaulted the boyfriend.

"The boyfriend allegedly fled, the victim was then dragged to the bushes and raped by the five suspects," he said.

No arrest has been made.

Comments
  • JudithNkwe - 2011-12-27 13:32

    Lephalale appears to be a very unsafe place to live. Why was the girl at a tavern when she is underage - what were her parents thinking or is she an orphan?

      Anthony - 2011-12-27 16:04

      did I not read this same story a few days ago????

      Shoe - 2011-12-27 21:37

      Judith,whatever she was doing in that tavern at whatever age is beside the point. Underage drinking is NOT a rapable offense. Neither is drinking, nor wearing a miniskirt. In fact, I know no rapable offense, and therefore does not see any reason any body should be raped.

      Francois - 2011-12-27 22:50

      Ai tog Shoe, Judith did not say it was a rapable offense. I think she is implying that she should have been in a safe place where rape could not happen. Rape happens in SA and quite regularly and our government likes it as it appears that they are doing nothing about it. Let us put it in simple language, if you step into a cage where a hungry lion is kept, don't blame the lion for feeding. Stepping into the cage is not a lion food offense, but you can protect yourself against it, by not going in.

      Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-27 23:28

      Francois: I was raped in my home. Where SHOULD I have been so the lion couldn't feed? Comparing rapists to animals makes it sound as if rape is an instinct and not a choice. Way to give rapists the go-ahead

      Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-28 01:06

      Sorry and by the way my rapist was a white, educated, english-speaking south african.

      Kim - 2011-12-28 06:50

      At Francois and Judith - women should not have to spend their lives hiding away. Men should rather be taught that stealing a woman's body is WRONG!! But the world keeps blaming women for men's shortcomings in life. A man can't say know - what a load of crap. Stop blaming women and start changing the mindset of the average man!!

      Francois - 2011-12-28 07:03

      Michelle, my condolences. I know that nothing I can say will make your ordeal go away. It is not unfortunate that even our own homes are not safe anymmore. "Unfortunate" is putting it too lightly and to make something racialistic about it,will even be worse. You are a brave woman and I hope that your story will not only help to bring the message of out of control crime home, but also to everybody that we should ALL help to improve our society.

  • Johan - 2011-12-27 13:34

    We live in a country where these animals are not punished for such savage crimes!

  • Ben - 2011-12-27 13:35

    South Africa has become a very unsafe country to live in. This type of thing happens too often. What type of people are living here?

      wayne.nkuna - 2012-01-19 14:04

      come on people these things happen all around the world , go to the usa and you will read of the same things if not worse......crime is the same everywhere....its what you choose to read everyday.....ways must be found to deal with such crimes

  • Janice - 2011-12-27 13:37

    What a Peaceful country we live in!!! Perfect harmony!!!

      Shirley - 2011-12-27 13:49

      And we are back to that all important word"parenting". If a child is raised correctly there would be a lot less of these horriffic crimes! Todays children are left to their own devices-parents miss all the important clues that their child is going off the rails.

      Ben - 2011-12-27 13:53

      Parenting from time to time requires discipline and that is now a crime according to a wonderful law.

  • Shirley - 2011-12-27 13:40

    No arrest have been made and none will be! 16 year olds hanging around a tavern-shouldnt be happening,not in a decent society. Rapists will continue with their hideous crimes until there either the death sentence or life without parole!!!!

      Bianca - 2011-12-27 14:17

      But Shirley, the issue isnt that she was at the tavern, altho under age, the issue is that these men had NO right to hurt her. Their crime is the issue and That should be addressed. I'm sure this discussion would be different if it had happened to an older women. Either way, the fact that men rape women is wrong and it should be addressed more harshly.

      thozi - 2011-12-27 16:46

      I understand Shirley to be saying that a 16-year old girl who patronises taverns, has more chances of being raped than the one at home, libraries, movies with friends etc. But nonetheless, she condemns rape unreservedly - no matter where or how it happened and by whom. I support her totally.

      Kim - 2011-12-28 06:55

      Shirley you obviously have absolutely no insight to life in the rural areas. Just because she was in the tavern does not mean that she was drinking. Sometimes it is a safe place for youngsters to meet and they often sit in these taverns and do homework because they do NOT have the facilities at home. That doe NOT give men the right to abuse her. It also does NOT give you the right to judge her!! Get it in your head - NO man or woman has the right to violate another human beings body - it does NOT matter what the circumstances.

  • Bornlucky Manaswe - 2011-12-27 13:45

    This really hit home, I have experienced this 13 yrs ago when I was 13 yrs old wn my sister was abducted just like this girl and me and my brother we couldn't do anything because guns were on our heads. I wonder if those thugs died or still wandering our streets because I don't believe they are in prison. Is wrong for a 16yr old girl to be at a tarven but this is not an excuse, do u think it could have made a difference if she was 18?please don't ever blame victims because u are giving power to these thugs.

      Mya - 2011-12-27 14:16

      Im sorry for the horrible ordeal you and your family had to go through. I can't begin to imagine what kind of scars you must all be left with. People love to blame the victim, if she had been 18, people would be saying she shouldn't be walking home after dark, or she was probably drunk. She could have been walking between two homes and this could have happened. These guys needed to get their party on and they would have found a victim be it on the street or through someones window. Lots of kids unfortunately engage in underage drinking, does not mean they deserve gang rape or any form of rape. We need more visible policing! More neighborhood watches in the townships. More sever punishment for these tsotsis.

      Bianca - 2011-12-27 14:19

      paulmandlankosi and Simon... where you ever 16 and walked home... regardsless of the time/place/occasion... I agree with Nornluck Manaswe... "don't ever blame victims" - they arent the ones doing the CRIMES.

      robbieyahu - 2011-12-27 14:42

      you are right ...the children do not deserve this terrible treatment no matter the circumstances ...period !!!

      Lyndatjie - 2011-12-27 14:53

      I agree... there is a sick tendency by some to blame the victim, the parents or the race of a person. Stop giving power to the abusers and stop causing the victims even more pain and abuse by blaming them. There was a time when our kids could walk home, now they can't. That is the issue... our children aren't safe... and we as a community should stand together and fight this. The victims need our help, our assistance and our prayers - not our condemnation. Bornlucky - I hope your sister survived this horrible ordeal - both physically and mentally.... :(

      Riaad - 2011-12-27 19:11

      @Lyndatjie Let's be rational for a second. A 16 year old girl walking from a friend's house at night will possibly be raped. But a 16 year old girl walking from a shebeen at night will PROBABLY be raped. I'm not blaming the victim, just stating the obvious. I have 3 daughters and I will never allow them to go out at night alone with a boyfriend, let alone to a tavern. The parents are to blame - like it or not. The analogy is a guy walking into a shop after leaving his car door open and the keys in the car. Obviously someone's gonna steal it. If I say that he is a fool to do that, then nobody in their sane mind can castigate me for blaming the victim!

      Lyndatjie - 2011-12-27 19:23

      @Riaad Yes - I agree - let's be rational. Let's take the blinkers away from our eyes and look at this rationally. A five year old girl can be raped by our own uncle INSIDE the safety of your own home. A thirteen year old girl can be raped in school where you place her safely every day of the week. A fifteen year old girl can be raped by a priest, a minister a spiritual leader or anybody else you trust. A 16 year old girl CAN and WILL rebel at their parents and start taking chances. They can tell you they are sleeping at a friend's house - while they go to a party. They can spend an evening at a "cousin's house" while both of them hike to a dance. The analogy can even be that if you have a girl - she will be raped because she is a girl - so its better for parents to have boys. But that's not our argument on this thread. The argument is that while you place "blame" by berating the parents and the child - you are letting each and every PERVERT that read these comments KNOW that they are RIGHT in raping these kids because they are LOOKING for it. That is what we mean by giving them power.

      Riaad - 2011-12-27 19:40

      Oh cm'on Lyndatjie. No rapist believes that his perverted action is right or justified, but he does it anyway! My blame of the parents is a constructive blame. It may make neglectful parents wake up, so that this does not happen so often in the future. But no amount of rational arguments can dissuade a rapist from raping. Only the Law can. SA Law cannot, however. In a Muslim country rapists are executed. The horrible scene of a beheading is usually sufficient deterrent to would-be rapists.

      Lyndatjie - 2011-12-27 20:18

      Riaad - of course rapists believe that their action is right and justified. Read through some of these arguments - people are attacking the parents and the child for being out so late. The rapist feels justified... its not HIS fault - just look at how many people here think exactly like him. He is perfectly within his right to rape that child because like all of you he is placing the blame on the parents and the girl itself. After all - she was looking for it. I confronted my rapist when I become of age and his answer to me asking WHY was that I wore a two piece bather when I swam. This happened between 5-9 years of age. And what was his Sister's reaction when she heard what he did? He was so young - he can't be blamed (he was 25 years old when it started). You see my point? He felt justified - and she made excuses and placed the blame on his age and not him. My argument is that there shouldn't be ANYBODY here pointing a finger to anybody but the rapist. HE RAPED HER... people should be decrying his hateful action - not planting any seed within the sick perverted heads of those still thinking about it right now. That is what we mean by giving them POWER. So you are wrong - ANY rapist will keep on doing it because somewhere in their peverted psycies they are justifying it one way or another. But I agree - lets behead them - at least they can't rape again and make the next person think its ok - because after all... society agrees with their justifications.

      Derek - 2011-12-27 20:39

      even if a girl or a women was lying naked with their legs open on a tavern floor this does not entitle a man to rape her. rape is rape, crime is crime stop blaming the victims and excusing the criminals!! what is wrong with you people???

      Riaad - 2011-12-27 23:04

      @Lyndatjie I am very sorry that you suffered such an ordeal in your innocent childhood. I pray that it did not leave any permanent psychological scars. As for the debate, I think I see your side of the argument now. But shouldn't you then be saying: "The rapist alone is to blame for the crime of rape. The parents are to blame for neglecting the safety of their kids. But do not say that openly as it gives justification to perverts who may be reading this." My fear is that we will only be blaming the rapist - our sphere of concern , while neglecting our sphere of influence : the neglectful and careless parent. Rapists cannot rape unless they can get their filthy hands on a victim, after all.

      Lyndatjie - 2011-12-27 23:29

      Thanks Riaad.... its always an honour having a meaningful debate with an intelligent person willing and able to see both sides of the story. Just a note of warning though - the majority of rapes are done by somebody you know. And scariest of all - the majority of all child rapes are done by somebody the parents trust. Mine was a beloved brother of my mother. Look after your daughters and warn them early on because honest education could have helped me tremendously. The age of innocence can be over in the blink of an eye - no matter how careful you are as a parent.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2011-12-27 23:39

      You can be the most protective parent in the World, and this could still happen to your child. You cannot protect them forever. They are as easily raped at the age of 36 of 6. A good parent gives out some rope and advice. That worked for me. I phoned my Dad from Greece when I was 19. I was abused, on the point of rape, but I fought like a madwomen. He was very calm. He asked me: Are you still in one piece? I cannot fetch you now. Stand strong and come home. My backbone grew back as he spoke. It took me seven years to get over that experience, even though I wasn't raped, ipso facto.

  • saxor - 2011-12-27 14:08

    Malema must be knowing them well

  • Simon - 2011-12-27 14:10

    in the first place , what is a 16jr old doing at the tavern , go home girl , your mom is counting underwear. you not suppose to be at a tavern

      Bornlucky Manaswe - 2011-12-27 14:24

      Dude u don't have to walk from a tarven to get raped, it can happen anytime anywhere. Yes is very wrong for a 16 year old to be going to tarvens but if she were 18, what excuse were u going to write here in defense of those thugs?

      douglasnorval - 2011-12-27 14:44

      that's right , make the victim the criminal! it's never ok to do this to anybody.

      Mya - 2011-12-27 14:55

      Simon, get over it. Black people are also victims of crime in South Africa, I guess you only notice what happens to the white folk though as you know more of them? I have noted your comments on another rape article and your compassion for the victims is severely lacking. Black or white, the women suffer the same and don't deserve to be victimised by people like you after the fact. Your previous comment "I fully agree , In Richards bay there was recently a woman robbed and raped in front of her children,A white woman , nothing has happened yet , but if she was another race , they would have been caught by now"

  • Marius Scheepers - 2011-12-27 14:12

    Sick.....

  • The-Azanian - 2011-12-27 14:26

    i thought it was until death do us apart and he just left her alone with 5 men...thats wat they call love in townshipz.

      Chris - 2011-12-27 18:51

      that is the way of Azania.

  • robbieyahu - 2011-12-27 14:39

    we live in a very sick society ...people have no love for ALL life ...sad ...poor children ... my deepest sympathy to these violated children.....

  • Comrade - 2011-12-27 14:42

    Take - without compensation!!

      Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-27 22:27

      Please clarify? Are you condoning or trying to be sarcastic/ironic. Are you inviting or commenting? Are you stuck, and need another soundbite?

  • ReunionofIntelligentMinds - 2011-12-27 14:44

    With a boyfriend like that you don't need enemies. Did he ever think of getting help or making enough noice that he would attract people to come and help? The flippen COWARD!!!

  • Trevor - 2011-12-27 14:54

    Time they remove the convicted rapists dicks..sick and tired of being POLITICALLY CORRECT!!...CUT EM OFF...!!!...

  • Smanga Zwane - 2011-12-27 14:56

    I have noticed a troubling trend in these types of incidences... The boyfriend always flees ...

      thozi - 2011-12-27 16:54

      @Johan Britz I should have expected that. Can't resist the race issue, can we?

      Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-27 22:21

      Smanga, it is quite worrying, ne? I also noticed that a few times, and I even dated a guy once who always stepped away and pretended we weren't together when he thought trouble was coming, citing as reason that "they" only try to goad a guy with a girl to provoke him, so if he's not with her they'll leave her alone. From my name I guess you can infer that he was a Johan of some kind... As for the race comments: incest is statistically more prevalent in white communities... Rape is not a race issue it is a human one. Or rather subhuman.

  • TaniaSandraSteyn - 2011-12-27 15:19

    It's not just rape, it's a death sentence. She will never, never, be the same person. Years of nightmares and suffering, either hating men or becoming promiscuous. Having to explain to to every future partner what happened to her. It is unlikely that she will receive proper counselling. I hate to sound like a raving lunatic - but these guys deserve a slow death. Their instruments of torture should be removed.

  • Jan - 2011-12-27 15:35

    shoot them!

  • TaniaSandraSteyn - 2011-12-27 17:28

    I think Limpopo needs an intervention. Where are the Churches and religious leaders, the social leaders, the people with conscience? Can we please help fix this part of our Country? Or perhaps we should just cede it to Botswana. That should sort most of the trouble out.

  • jonny.g.gonzalez - 2011-12-27 20:47

    5 against 1, perfectly democratic.

  • Pixie86 - 2011-12-27 21:21

    without reading any comments i know all the white dudes here will start racist rants and blame the government oh, and wait, maybe even toss in a malema joke. Honestly, people on news24 are such a disappointment. No constructive comments at all.

      Johan Britz - 2011-12-27 21:44

      Oh my. Another one that cannot tell the difference between racial statistics and racism. Shame. Hey I love how you toss in "white dudes" in there. Going with your logic, that's pretty "racist" isn't it?

      Pixie86 - 2011-12-27 21:51

      well johan, if you follow comments on news24 you will notice that most white people here only ever blame the government for every single thing and somehow find a race issue in everything. To prove my case how about you read some comments on this thread. It's become standard procedure i'm afraid. The topic could be about swaziland but it always comes back to blaming the south african government. It's stupid, period. And stop tossing statistics. Stop trying to convince everyone only black men rape. Was it not white priests who raped all those catholic boys? Were vikings black? It's not dna, it's one's mindset.

      Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-27 22:09

      Yours was the first comment I read, but I must agree: very disappointing and not constructive at all. And rascist.

      Pixie86 - 2011-12-27 22:14

      yes well michelle, imagine my disappointment when i read comments completely irrelevant to the topic by many white people on this forum every single day. A guy gets eaten by a shark- blame the government, south africans are stopped in swaziland- it's a race thing, only white people were stopped. White people are always complaining. If you took a moment to live the life of an average black person you wouldn't complain so much.

      Johan - 2011-12-27 22:37

      OMF, Pixie. Do a bit of reading, more than what you read on News24. I'm not spending more time on you today. And Michelle, what kind of comment can you make that's constructive about rape? Showing symphathy? Sure, but its going to happen again and again and again. Time to cut the crap and discuss the source of the rapes! Pixie, yeah, the freak Catholics were whites. Again, show me some stats (which IS important when trying to explain something) about how many cases happened if you can. Did you see the links I gave you on the other article? Do some reading china.

      Irene - 2011-12-27 22:45

      Oh shame Pixie, can't get rid of your victim mentality can you?

      Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-27 23:06

      You know, Pixie, I see what you mean. @Johan: if you read Pixie's comment completely you would understand my referral "not constructive" was aimed at the comment itself, not all comments about rape, to which I might add that I believe there are many things that can be said to enlighten and inform, support etc, but slinging insults would no be top of my list. Pixie, I stand corrected on first comment

      Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-27 23:18

      Pixie it is a bit of a broad statement to say whites are always complaining just because you seem to run into the ones that do. I personally know some white people who do not complain, even some who are living the lives of average black people. If by that you sweepingly meant struggling to make a decent and honest living despite their circumstances??

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2011-12-27 23:52

      Pixie86, for once - read the comments please. Rape is a very emotive issue. Don't generalize. Bitching about Malema is an easy one. Bitching about taxes and Government - easy. Discussing the serious issue of how women and children are brutalised in our Country - is worth the discussion so we can find ways and mechanisms to sort it out.

      Warren Nel - 2011-12-28 01:34

      Pixie....statistics, statistics, statistics. Furthermore I'm sure you will be disappointed with the negative replies you envisaged....where are they? Also some readers reply to our worthless, poorly raised warrior rapists as animals. ANIMALS DO NOT RAPE!

  • Gordon - 2011-12-27 22:49

    Arrest them and hang them high!!!!

  • Michelle Kirsten - 2011-12-27 22:50

    I wish we could apply a different word than "men" in situations like this... Sometimes it feels to me as if our sons will end up thinking rape is part of manhood, just like so many women and girls seem resigned to the almost certain fate of being raped.. I think we should call these monsters by another word, like the cable thieves who are called izinyoka. *please I am only using that as example, not a reference to race* As far as I remember rape is equally prevalent among all races, both hemispheres, all continents, in war and in peacetime

  • Boer - 2011-12-27 23:32

    This is crazy. I hope they catch these bastards. Then they should be hanged.

  • Pieter - 2011-12-27 23:36

    Two words, 'death penalty'. Next election vote for a party that will reinstate the death penalty.

  • Silvana - 2011-12-28 06:31

    Mr Zuma, you gave us the reason why we have widows and orphans, who are you going to blame for this? No, please don't answer, I can no longer endure the the assault on your asinine comments on my ears.

  • Silvana - 2011-12-28 06:35

    As a matter of interest, did the boyfriend try to get help?

  • Hermann - 2011-12-28 07:42

    Castrate rapists and they will not repeat it again.

  • Consolata - 2011-12-28 09:39

    These people that rape should not be considered human or even as animals. When have you heard of animals raping each other?? The fact that this girl was at a tavern is irrelevant and the only relevant thing is that these horrible creatures should be castrated, no one should feel unsafe walking out because of these creatures. I'm so sick and tired of all these rapists and I feel that the government is not doing enough to curb this growing trend. I am so frustrated that I am thinking of starting an online petition to the government to have these creatures branded with an R on their foreheads that way they know what it feels like not to feel safe in the society that they would like to live in. All women that falsely accuse men of rape should also be branded with an 'l'on their foreheads. I would like to be the one to castrate these creatures, but unfortunetly these creatures have rights embedded in the constitution.

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