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Teens 'falling pregnant to get grants'

2011-11-23 08:05

Polokwane - Teenagers are falling pregnant to access social grants to alleviate poverty, according to a report by the Limpopo health and social department on Tuesday.

The report was issued after the department conducted a three-month study into teenage pregnancies and factors forcing children to abandon their education.

The report found 15.5% of participants fell pregnant to access child support grants. This behaviour forced children into inter-generational relationships, with contraceptives largely ignored.

Thirty two percent of participants had multiple sexual partners but this was not seen as a major contributor to teenage pregnancy, stated the report.

Head of Demography and Research, Itani Ntsieni, said some teenagers were denied access to contraceptives, being turned away from clinics because health workers believed it was a criminal offence to have sex as a teenager.

“The study recommends that there is need to reinforce child sexual rights. Some of the pupils did not know that it was an offence [to] have sex below the age of 16,” said Ntsieni.

Ntsieni said a growing trend emerging in the Mopani and Waterberg regions was families forcing their school-going children to fall pregnant, a problem facing educators as teen pregnancies had increased.

Comments
  • james.kukard - 2011-11-23 08:21

    LOL!!! And they never thought this is going to happen with a country that has the biggist jobless figures in the world and then it took them how many years now to figure this out. They only doing this to keep the massas to vote for them, they don't care that it is impossible to feed a baby on that grant. No wonder ................ :-)

      Willie - 2011-11-23 10:10

      True ,this grant,free housing,free water,free electricity,free health care, all this things are not sustainable SA is not a wealthy country. Some members of our society will remain lazy and always depend on the goverment.STUPID SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT.We not minimising poverty but we need to teach people how to fish finish and klaar

      Shadoz - 2011-11-23 10:35

      Thirty two percent of participants had multiple sexual partners so this means they will hopefully have aids soon then they can also get free meds and free hospitalization and free everything. When we gonna stop this maddness and start showing the anc we won't put up with paying for the majority anymore.

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-11-23 10:56

      The scary thing is - we have 5.9 million people paying tax, and over 10 million on some sort of social grant... this is not sustainable.

      Spyker - 2011-11-23 11:16

      " ... 15.5% of participants fell pregnant to access child support grants ... " All this proves is that the other 70% lied about the real motivation and that 14.5% were too stoned to know where they were. SA is formally the largest welfare state in the WORLD. Each tax-payer supports more than six ANC parasites. This naturally makes sense, as SA has the largest economy in the world, it produces the highest GDP/capita in the world, with the most productive workforce in the world, the most honest- and efficient state- and municipal services in the world (apart from other things, naturally, to prevent any abuse of the system), a culture of high ethics that is spawn by a government that is hard-working, honest, TRANSPARENT (just excuse me a second while I choke myself into a coma) and so forth... PS: What really scares me – Mike Schussler noted that SA’s economy has only around 300k bona fide contributors (the rest are all effectively parasites – eg if you earn a salary from a municipality-/the state-, or via the state - like a BEE company or alike, then you are simply regurgitating tax money, etc) then we each support more than 100 parasites. YET.., this ‘Group of 300k’, effectively has ZERO political representation in SA.

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-11-23 13:43

      @Spyker - I think what Mike was referring to was that out of the 5.9 million taxpayers, just under 10% earns more than R300k per year. And this group contributes 54% of the PIT paid to SARS. We have something like 8.3 million people employed in the formal sector, of which a large number are employed in the public sector. Not sure there are only 300 k bona fide contributers. And to be honest, some government emplyees are contributers - Doctors, nurses, teachers (when they work). However, as you rightly point out, they get paid out of state coffers, so their tax contribution is not 'real'...

  • Nigel - 2011-11-23 08:23

    only in Limpopo, Malemas way of getting more votes..

      Sganja - 2011-11-23 08:26

      Malema got nothing to do with this....

      Ronald - 2011-11-23 08:39

      Then you must have missed his rant where he encouraged people to breed. Was on video footage on SABC1,2,3 and E-TV. Too much work to change channel from soccer to something that might teach you something?

      Johan - 2011-11-23 08:39

      Of course he has. He told people at a meeting that they must have lots of babies as its "revolutionary". Huh? The country is over populated, mostly by Blacks. There aren't jobs. And now these "girls" are creating MORE people that will eventually need jobs. Malema said what he said because he wants future ANC votes. What they are doing is NOT sustainable. The jobless and unemployable are getting more and more by the day, and the tax paying public has to sponsor them. Eventually the demand will exceed the supply of money, and what then? Blame whites? Laughable.

      Sganja - 2011-11-23 08:44

      "Teenagers are falling pregnant to access social grants to alleviate poverty" That says a lot to me

      Johan - 2011-11-23 08:47

      Yeah, it says that they are too stupid to realize it costs ALLOT more than what the grant gives you, to raise a child properly. What that then means, in turn my dear Shanja, is that that child will more than likely ALSO end up in a life of "poverty". And around and around we go, get it?

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2011-11-23 08:51

      In all areas of the country, that's why the nurse in the EC administered contraceptives to a 10yr old girls, she was right but got nailed coz the parents went up in arms, make you wonder why that was hmmm?

      Sganja - 2011-11-23 08:53

      Johan My argument here is that Nigel said Malema is responsible for this and I didn't agree with the statement, you came and said "Of course he has" I gave you the quote to justify that you are wrong too.

      Deon - 2011-11-23 09:54

      Limpopo people are not good with maths. Leave the baby at your mother and work, most jobs pay 10 times more than social grants. If you can make children you can work.

      Philisiwe Msomi - 2011-11-23 10:50

      i dnt agree wt da comment either@ Johan ''dear'' you are clueless,these ppl are poor dey are tryin to survive,dey think about today n tommorrow not the future, bcs dey hv nothin to plan da future on...R250 may b noting to u,bt to some1 who hs notin s a lot...yes what s happenin s happenin s completely wron n Im a tax payer too n I happen to b black(i c dt matters to u),i hate wht s happenin n it does make me angry but i try to understand these ppl bcs i know poor ppl,i lived wt dem...

      Bigwolf - 2011-11-23 10:57

      Sganja two wrongs dont make it right and these uneducated lazy women sleep around giving birth to many young for grants with no vission or thought of how these kids are to live, poor gogo get more head ackes and more mouths to feed while they party at shabeens is a fact of township life out side the big cities today, these same young women cry when sisters at hospitals shout at them for being stupid only to see them again next year. What Nigel means is more uneducated voters to keep future dictators like Malema with some type of power.

      Shadoz - 2011-11-23 10:58

      of course he does sganja he has showed the masses that hard work is not needed and that you can get everything for free if you are dishonest and steal

      Johan - 2011-11-23 12:06

      @Philisiwe Msomi. Firstly, please learn to spell English properly. Secondly, just a FEW supplies for my ONE child costs WAY more than R250 per month. By having those babies they are making themselves MORE poor because you need allot more than R250. Understand? 5 kids, R1000. That money is supposed to go to the BABY, not for money for the mother to live on!!! R1000 is not NEARLY enough cash for 5 kids!!! And the solution isn't go give these mothers more money, the solution is to STOP giving money because then they might stop having stacks of kids which turn into an extra weight on the tax payers. The Government will never do or say that though, they wouldn't want to p1ss off their "loyal" supporters.

      Willie - 2011-11-23 12:27

      Nigel please debate rationally surely Malema got nothing to do with this.You may not agree with the man but let us be fair not nasty.and i agree with Sganja

      Randomhero6661 - 2011-11-23 13:04

      This is mordor!!!

      Marion - 2011-11-23 13:28

      Encouraging people to 'breed' is a strategy employed by some groupings in society in order to strengthen that grouping. A Mormon once told me that was the reason they have such large families (just quoting what he said before you jump all over me).

  • Randy Mongatane - 2011-11-23 08:31

    Having grown up in Limpopo (proudly) I think this could also be attributed to a lack of knowledge! When we were in High School I thoughy R100 was a LOT of money. E.g I neva had to go out to movies,theatre,ice skating(lol well its Limpopo 32degrees weather) etc etc. When u move to JHB and all of a sudden R1 000 is NOTHING! You start working n realise R4 000pm is nothing etc etc. It reali is no surprise, even men drop out to do odd jobs @R50 per day cause at that point they might think its enough! Anyway my point: this is where I think education should play a major role here, maybe if our teachers how much we could earn after University most people would realise there's more to life than non perpertual pathetic R250pm grant. So maybe instead of asking high school kids stupid exam questions like "Name a soapie n 3 characters" they should teach them about life,the cost of living, adult responsibilities, etc etc

      zeekoevlei - 2011-11-23 08:38

      "they should teach them about life,the cost of living, adult responsibilities, etc etc "....They already do, it's called life orientation

      Ronald - 2011-11-23 08:40

      Full points to you!

      Randy Mongatane - 2011-11-23 08:44

      Okay true but Life Orientation is not enough If you only teaching what's in the book without a bit of practical n motivating work. Haven't seen any assignment that requires them to go thru the job section of a newspaper n select 3 highest paying jobs,convert it to monthly amount, then draft their own "budget" as to how they would like to spend the money! Now THAT is the education I refer to.

      Marion - 2011-11-23 13:35

      In the USA they have that one assignment where the kids are given an egg that they have to nurse for a week or something without breaking it. I think there are also some programmes where they give realistic dolls that cry and poop and want to be fed etc., to make people realise exactly what it takes to raise a baby (maybe the dolls have replaced the eggs). That is the sort of education our kids need on parenting and also as Randy says, get them to work out budgets. My kid acts as though money grows on trees at times but he does still stand back and look at the greater picture and the impossibility of us accommodating his wants.

  • Liana - 2011-11-23 08:33

    this has been happening for many, many years... just comes to show how aware government is about what's happening...

  • Hennie - 2011-11-23 08:33

    Why wait for a report as every thinking person has known this for years

      Randy Mongatane - 2011-11-23 08:38

      Maybe they shouldve put this question as part of the Census questionairre!

  • Randy Mongatane - 2011-11-23 08:36

    Having grown up in Limpopo (proudly) I think this could also be attributed to a lack of knowledge! When we were in High School I thoughy R100 was a LOT of money. E.g I neva had to go out to movies,theatre,ice skating(lol well its Limpopo 32degrees weather) etc etc. When u move to JHB and all of a sudden R1 000 is NOTHING! You start working n realise R4 000pm is nothing etc etc. It reali is no surprise, even men drop out to do odd jobs @R50 per day cause at that point they might think its enough! Anyway my point: this is where I think education should play a major role here, maybe if our teachers, parents, educated folk etc taught us how much we could earn after University most people would realise there's more to life than non perpertual pathetic R250pm grant. So maybe instead of asking high school kids stupid exam questions like "Name a soapie n 3 characters" they should teach them about life,the cost of living, adult responsibilities, etc etc

      Johan - 2011-11-23 08:42

      Fully agree. The problem is that quality education is not on the ANC's menu. Stupid pepple are easily controlled. And paying them on top of that to have babies clinches the deal to get their vote. Grants should be STOPPED immediatelly.

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2011-11-23 11:37

      Agreed Randy, if only they would!

  • ivan.coetzee2 - 2011-11-23 08:45

    LOL I remember making the comment about teens getting pregnant in order to get social grants (the story relates to the nurse who administerd contraceptives to 10yr old girls in EC) and got "shot down" by all the nay sayers, what you think now ignorant a$$holes?

      Marion - 2011-11-23 13:37

      This study about pregnancy and social grants is not a new thing. It goes back many years already. Another study done about 10 years ago revealed that most black girls did not believe they had the right to refuse a man sex. That shocked me to my core.

  • Sharkshoot - 2011-11-23 08:46

    There was a time when South Africa still had a degree of control and respectability in terms of an African country. These days it's just another typical African country like its neighbours...

  • khutso.b - 2011-11-23 08:46

    poor parenting practices... poor education system.

  • Cecile - 2011-11-23 08:47

    having a baby to get money is like buying a porsche to get out of debt

      godesha - 2011-11-23 09:08

      Well said Cecile.

      Marion - 2011-11-23 13:37

      ... or pawning your car to buy petrol...

  • PatPion - 2011-11-23 08:54

    WHAT?!? This is madness. Forcing your child to get pregnant? What?!?

  • Bob - 2011-11-23 08:57

    Just shows you the level of the mentality of these people...! This is one screwed up country!

  • Ramudzuli Muthuphei - 2011-11-23 08:57

    IS THE GRANT MONEY REALY ENOUGH TO RAISE A CHILD?

      darktruth - 2011-11-23 09:45

      I know, the nappies the baby goes through a month would top that, they are getting pregnant for free nappies :/

  • Ramudzuli Muthuphei - 2011-11-23 08:59

    IS THE GRANT MONEY REALY ENOUGH TO RAISE A CHILD? LET ALONE ALIVIATE POVERTY

      Johan - 2011-11-23 09:12

      Taking money from people who work, and giving it to those who don't is rewarding them for doing nothing to help themselves. So no, it won't aleviate poverty, it is helping it along and in time WILL turn more and more tax payers into charity cases themselves. The ANC's plan of running this country is not sustainable.

  • godesha - 2011-11-23 09:04

    What???? No kidding?

  • herman.brummer - 2011-11-23 09:06

    haha,there are just no words, what I see is completely stupid, they think is a great idea

  • VaalDonkie - 2011-11-23 09:13

    NO! Say it ain't so!

  • Rip - 2011-11-23 09:17

    So what's new? It has been going on for years!

  • nokuthandwa - 2011-11-23 09:21

    As much as this might be a funny story to some of you, please bear in mind the story where 4 children died because of hunger. Yes, its stupid to think that people are falling pregnant for just R250 per month but then again, that R250 sometimes goes a long way to saving starving families. I am not condoning the act of teenage pregnancy BUT I am saying that there are people who genuinely see it as a solution instead of starving to death. We might all think its stupid, I know for a fact that R250 could not even last me a full month for my daughter's nappies only but for some, its a way to make ends meet. What we have to ask ourselves is what can be done in order for these mothers to NOT abuse they system eg. give them food stamps instead of money (then again how do they dress their children and pay for school fees?) well, give them PEP vouchers for clothes or something to that effect.....

      llewellyn.saville - 2011-11-23 09:31

      I like your suggestions. You are amongst the only one on this thread to actually make a suggestion. I'm not sure food stamps in themselves will be the answer because these can find their way to be sold for cash but I agree that we should be looking for alternatives. That is what will build this country.

      Impi - 2011-11-23 09:54

      We can't continue rewarding kids to fall pregnant. As you say the nappies alone cost more than R250. The problem deepens and will have catastrophic consequences in 10 to 15 years. Teenagers are not emotionally matured enough to deal with the responsibility of raising a child. Disturbing, as said in this report, is the fact that teenagers are having multiple partners. Sex education should be given at schools and both the responsibility of raising a child and the transmitting of HIV/Aids should be hammered into our kids heads. At times it is infuriating reading these comments on here. Everything becomes a racial issue. Just because I'm black, doesn't mean I'm blind to the problems we are facing. Most of the people on here seem to enjoy insulting us as a backward race and forgetting that the scars of 400 years of oppression will take some time to heal. I vividly remember standing at a traffic light close to East Gate begging for money for food when I was 10 after both my parents had died of HIV/Aids. There were 3 white kids in the back of the car and as the driver told me to get away from his car, the kids stuck their tongues out at me. This is the humiliation most of us had endured at some time or another in our lives. You see this condescending mentally coming through on a daily basis on here. We should ignore these people who are insulting us and rather devote our thoughts on how to solve our own problems.

      Johan - 2011-11-23 10:27

      @Impi, when I got to the "400 Years of oppression" part I fell asleep. Get your facts straight. You sure it wasn't 600 years? Maybe 1000 years?

      E - 2011-11-23 10:40

      @nokuthandwa - well said. Some system like mexico & brazil use, where grants are paid as a quid-pro-quo for proof of vists to health clinics & kids attending school should be implemented - problem is, it needs dedicated local officials to run, and looking at SA's problems with nurses & teachers ... sigh. Impi, I agree with Johan on the '400 years" thing, but otherwise, good comment, and well done to you for obviously making something of your life despite early deep setbacks. That's the spirit (& action) we need to build our country.

      Marion - 2011-11-23 13:39

      @nokuthandwa... my sentiments exactly... subsidise them with goods not cash.

  • Lynn - 2011-11-23 09:36

    And why do these girls not know that it is an offence to have underaged sex. Great job this government is doing with education. Just the usual give us everything for nothing. Those poor innocent babies.

  • Kogie - 2011-11-23 09:38

    NOW WHICH BRIGHT SPARK FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ONLY FOUND THIS OUT NOW? GO ON GIVE A NAME!

  • Alan - 2011-11-23 09:39

    mandatory abortions are the only way

      E - 2011-11-23 10:42

      once again a man wants to force a woman do do his will ...

      Randomhero6661 - 2011-11-23 13:09

      Logically! but morally nope! but i get ur point!

  • Warwick - 2011-11-23 09:41

    This truly is a backward nation. And I bet half of them are falling pregnant with family members, so think of the interbreeding consequenses. Why work when you can get as many grants as possible. More kids equals more grants equals more votes for the ruling party giving out the grants. Now you get foster care grants thrown in for good measure. This is not about quality but quantity. If this lot could breed between between species they would. I would like to know what the average age of the girls are that are falling pregnant.

      Marion - 2011-11-23 14:04

      When it comes to interbreeding there is plenty of that goes on in other 'nations' as you call them. Foster care grants are paid to foster parents, not parents, although I do concede that sometimes the granny or mother will apply to become a foster parent to get that grant and then the child's mother still lives in the same house. I've seen whites abusing the system in that way so it is not a thing practised by a 'backward nation' as you call them. Your comment of breeding between species is f*****g disgusting.

  • Lee - 2011-11-23 09:41

    My solution to this growing problem is to take the child away and put them either in foster homes, or to a loving family and NOT give their parents a grant, but to either fine them or to send them to a juvenile correction center!

      berni.venter - 2011-11-23 10:08

      And who is going to feed, clothe and educate these children. Social services cant cope as it is... go and have a look at children's homes in your area! Not to mention teachers are raping/engaging in intercourse with their students, so the messenger is already wrecking the message...

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-11-23 13:49

      @ Lee - how many foster homes do you think there are in SA?

  • Barbara - 2011-11-23 09:43

    how long will the government be able to sustain these social grants - unemployment is rife and the future looks rather gloomy without foreign investments (excluding the Chinese) there are plus minus 3 million people working whose taxes support 15 million! I wish the government could do some maths!

  • Transkie Sun - 2011-11-23 09:51

    Rotten rats

  • ilze.stock - 2011-11-23 09:57

    Seriously people: this isn't news... it's common knowledge! And don't think for one minute they use those grants to feed their babies...

  • gaeleen - 2011-11-23 10:15

    This is caused by lack of education and a generation of people looking for hand outs - 9/10 the gogo ends up with the child and the 'mother' spends the grant on herself. If there is no gogo to take the child in it then becomes one of the future uneducated street children - the state should assess the applications and give the grant to the needy parent not the randy one!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dalai - 2011-11-23 10:16

    That partly explains why it's increasingly very rare to find a single black South African woman above 21 without a kid! All seem to take pride in having bastard children!

      Dean Kenad - 2011-11-23 14:43

      Exactly my sentiments

  • Marion - 2011-11-23 10:20

    The logic of this escapes me. Fall pregnant to get a measly R250 or so per month that you will have to spend on food etc., for the child? No wonder 2/3 children go to bed hungry every night. Even if all the family eats is mealiemeal a 25kg bag costs more than the grant received.

      Willie - 2011-11-23 13:38

      "...Encouraging people to 'breed' is a strategy employed by some groupings in society in order to strengthen that grouping..." it is not a new thing it happend during the apartheid era in SA. Remember presisdent Malan he encouraged Afrikaners to have large families , hence the name Malan Kinders sounds strange ne!!!

      Marion - 2011-11-23 13:45

      I was born in the '50s and there were 7 kids in my family and probably between 5 and 7 at least in most other families in those days. When I was of child bearing age I had one biological child because I didn't believe I would be able to give him a good life (well as good as I could afford) if I had more. Even then I struggled financially after my divorce. Raising kids is an expensive business. If they lack too much in life many of them turn to crime in order to be able to afford / obtain those things they were deprived of. I cannot say in all honesty that if I had grown up totally deprived that I wouldn't have turned to a life of crime. Especially stealing a loaf of bread etc., in the supermarket.

  • Dalai - 2011-11-23 10:20

    we seem to incentivise doing nothing. That's why the waiting list of RDP houses includes ablebodied under 40s, who do see the need to find something to do for themselves. It pains me that i have to declare tax to SARS to subsidise these lazy louts! And this Dalai Rama is black!

  • Fanie - 2011-11-23 10:39

    The day they announced this system I was ridiculed for saying that exactly this will happen...and so it came to pass

  • suritha.blake - 2011-11-23 10:48

    Idiots. They only realized this now.

  • Jayne - 2011-11-23 10:58

    And it took them this long to figure this out?????

  • Alecia - 2011-11-23 10:59

    Poor article and poor reporting. Actually 84.5% DID NOT get pregnant due to the grant! The grant is but only one aspect of teenage pregnancy which is being blown out of all proportion. If one looks at a recent report from the HSRC undertaken for the department of social development then only between 3-6% of all people who acess the child support grant are teenage mothers. Come on News 24. Please undertake better reporting and stop chasing the headlines.

  • Tanya - 2011-11-23 11:36

    Feed a wild animal long enough and it will lose its will for hunting and expect his food daily at feeding time. No economy can function with some people working only to be taxed and others expecting tax to be given to them without working. This economy is not being fed by its working class, in fact, this economy is feeding the expectations that it has built by giving away freely to those who are needy. We all need in some or other way, but when you have to work for it, the satisfaction is appreciated and therefore spent responsibly. This economy could have a lot less problems if this expectation is controlled. But as with the rest of it all, this is only part another endless loop in this lovely country of ours.

      Tanya - 2011-11-23 12:23

      Thank you Johan. I never for one moment referred to any race. I referred to an economy - which includes everyone, regardless of race.

      Johan - 2011-11-23 12:42

      Tanya, your comment shouldn't even need defending. Unfortunatelly the likes of 'bra Twala finds themselves a little lacking in the logic and reasoning department (possibly because of his race? THAT's a little racism 'bra, just so you can tell the difference). Think of school children, much the same. Tit for tat.

  • Snoopy.zn - 2011-11-23 12:47

    Sjoe ne, en toe skrik ons wakker. Dis vandat swangerskap in skoole toegelaat en aanvaar word. Die regering sal eerder aanvaar dat kinders op die ouderdom van 16 mag sex he, maar mag eers alkohol drink van 18 af.. Ek dink iets is drasties vout. Waar het 'n 16jarige enige sin van verantwoordlikheid, of enige lewens ondervinding om agter te kom dat dit net nie die moeite werd is nie. Absoluut geen verstand nie!

      Marion - 2011-11-23 13:56

      When we were at school girls who were pregnant had to leave school and nine times out of ten their parents put them into homes for unmarried mothers and they gave the babies up for adoption. Now they just stay in school so there are no consequences for teen pregnancies. Yet these days they can also go have abortions free, gratis and verniet, from the age of 12 without parental consent. Very confusing.

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-11-23 12:54

    The was your idea when introduce grant, creating poverty circle and use it as a trump card when you campaign for election. That's the ruling party's clients because those who have low hopes are so vulnerable to manipulation. In 30 yrs there will many people that the goverment won't feed and jobs will be very few for this coming large number of people.

      Johan - 2011-11-23 13:08

      High five bra, finally some logic!

  • guy.goes1 - 2011-11-23 12:58

    Imagine the horrendous desparation that some teen girls go through to have to resort to this type of madness. I see little compassion here just anger how do you suggest we fix this? is there a viable solution or do we think by just venting anger that it will go away?

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