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Tshwane hospital: 5 days without water

2012-02-19 17:38

Johannesburg - Patients at the Tshwane District Hospital in Pretoria have not been bathed or cleaned by nurses for five days because there was no water, the Democratic Alliance said on Sunday.

"For almost a week now family and friends of patients are being forced to bring two-litre water bottles to the hospital in an attempt to assist with the problem," said the DA's Gauteng social development spokesperson Hendrika Kruger.

She said the reason for the problem was a fault with the hospital's valve system.

"This situation requires immediate action by the Gauteng health department as patients' wounds are not being cleaned and this could spread infection and pose a serious risk to patients' lives," she said.

The hospital and the department could not immediately be reached for comment.

Comments
  • Larry - 2012-02-19 17:46

    Disgraceful ongoing shambles. From one major crisis to the next. This is the ANC's South Africa.

      mariuskowie - 2012-02-19 18:20

      Larry, just imagine the shambles that doesn't even make the news. South Africans is getting so de-sensitized for bad service and corruption that it took 5 days of being without water in the hospital before it even made news. Even one day without water in any hospital is extreme. The hospital management could have made alternative arrangements if the problem could not be fixed. Their doing nothing in that environment is comparable to assault.

      Ray - 2012-02-19 18:49

      Zimbabwe here we come-at least prisoners get water and their relatives don't have to bring food in .WHY???? Because they all vote ANC-VIVA!!!

      Heibrin - 2012-02-20 01:25

      @Ray: 'Zimbabwe here we come' - Actually Ray, we're already there, so stop, roll down the car window, say hello to the locals.

      Cina - 2012-02-20 09:08

      Crisis what crisis the ANC government don't have any crisis only challenges. Dit is absoluut lagwekkend.

      Vicker - 2012-02-20 09:37

      But the people are getting exactly what they voted for, so what is the problem??? I dont see anything wrong here at all....

      Vicker - 2012-02-20 09:43

      5 days sounds about right - it takes 2 days for management to find out themselves there is no water, cos the sisters did'nt think of telling them. Then another day for management to think about it. The fourth day is spent on the phone with their chommies to get a tender passed to the "right" SP. Then the "right" SP takes at least a day to come out to check the situation, in between KFC buckets and so on. Best of all is, when the water does come back on, every single tap in the place will be gushing, cos they all leave the taps open when there is no water coming out of it...

  • Comrade - 2012-02-19 17:49

    ANC.......You get what you vote for...NOTHING!

  • spartanx93 - 2012-02-19 17:52

    Sounds about right for an ANC run hospital......

      Sheik - 2012-02-19 18:48

      SPARTANX93, Pretoria Hospital worked Jo'burg Gen worked Durban Hospital worked even Bara worked, and the list goes on,but under their new names nothing works, coincidence?

      Francois - 2012-02-19 22:27

      A kreepy crawley also works? What is your point?

  • Sika - 2012-02-19 17:54

    how is the NHI going to work, if they cannot fix a F***ken valve system? Then they worry about expeling Malema than to focus on serious service delivery issues nxa...I am so Pissed off.....ANC forget about my next provincial vote

      Graham - 2012-02-19 17:58

      The NHI is just another way to steal some more billions!

      Ray - 2012-02-19 18:51

      Sika-the reason the valve didn't get fixed is because their service providers don't get paid [UNLESS IT IS BMW or MERCEDES}.

      Sheik - 2012-02-19 18:51

      Sika you know in your heart that the NHI is not going to work and that Graham's comment is closer to the truth.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-02-19 19:19

      I hope there is a kind-hearted plumber that can help them out. Life is too short to make people suffer like this. I bet the nearest jail is better serviced.

      Sika - 2012-02-19 19:27

      @Ray I couldn't agree with you more..!

  • Muhammed Bhyat - 2012-02-19 17:56

    This is not anything new. Its a South African government hospital, so its expected. At the government hospital that I work in some departments have had to water for several months now...and in my department - even when there is water, its visibly discoloured and has a foul smell. Tragic situation! I empathize with patients who are at the coal face of this.

      Muhammed Bhyat - 2012-02-19 18:02

      Typo: *...some departments have had NO water for several months now...

      mariuskowie - 2012-02-19 18:25

      Hospitals used to be where you went to get your illnesses cured. Now hospitals are where you go to get more sick. Mohammed, please tell all the readers where this hospital of death is where you work.

      Marion - 2012-02-19 18:43

      Thank you for that honest feedback Muhammed. We seldom get to hear these truths. To hear that your hospital has departments that still don't have water after MONTHS is appalling. What happens with the toilets?

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-02-19 19:20

      As the internet becomes more widely used in SA, these problems wont be hidden anymore. Thank you for speaking out.

      Muhammed Bhyat - 2012-02-19 19:52

      Unfortunately I am not at liberty to disclose the name of the hospital I work at. I must however laud such articles which serve to expose the realities which many, in management, seek to cover up. This kind of article serves as a voice to the thousands of patients who deserve a higher standard of health care and I hope that the hospital management responds efficaciously in resolving the problems. Lastly, and for the curiosity of the readers, with the ongoing plumbing problems at my hospital, the patient waiting room does occasionally smell of s**t.

      Nkulekweni - 2012-02-19 20:50

      Muhammed how is this allowed to happen? Isnt there anything that the staff can do e.g go to the newspapers? Can't the patients be encouraged to go to the human rights commission, the public protector ect. A hospital with no water cannot be seen as acceptable. Do we have any standards at all? If we accept such appalling situations what are we as a citizenry?.... and when will we act..when absolutely nothing works?

      Muhammed Bhyat - 2012-02-19 21:20

      @ Nkulekweni: Thank you for the query. What I present here is no secret. It is an ongoing problem at my hospital and has received much media exposure via our local newspapers. Albeit, the problems persists. I am a dentist, and to perform many dental procedures suction is required. However, when there is no water, our suctions, which use water to run, do not work and patients - after spending a good two hours or so queuing for their file, are required to reschedule their appointments. The problem is that the hospital is undergoing catastrophic renovations. There have been so many different companies who got tenders to upgrade our facility, and at different stages - its all such a mess with architectural plans seeming not to coincide with each other. With the millions of rands that have already been spent on upgrading the hospital it is said that we could have built a brand new hospital. The poor patients suffer electricity and water supply problems, constant noise from drilling and dust pollution and the list goes on. As ridiculously laughable our situation is, it is a serious problem that even, it seems that our MEC is up in arms over...

      Vicker - 2012-02-20 09:36

      @Nkulekweni: I would hazard a guess, and say that if any staff report such conditions, they would immediately be "retrenched" and have their reputations ruined by blackballing them. The Gumment in all its forms hates the truth to be told...

  • Jan - 2012-02-19 17:57

    Typical ANC management. Damned corrupt bunch of misfits!

  • Thandi - 2012-02-19 17:57

    I wonder when someone in the ANCorruption is going to wake up to the fact that things need maintaining, otherwise they are going to break down, just as most of the infrastructure in LONC is doing,

      Thandi - 2012-02-19 18:13

      Land Of No Consequences

      Sheik - 2012-02-19 18:56

      Crisis Management, the only way the ANC knows. From potholes to hospitals.

      Sheik - 2012-02-19 19:04

      Thandi, I have Dial Direct, filling potholes in my area and Outsurance directing traffic. Taste of the future?

  • muneebnibo - 2012-02-19 17:59

    ANC my god water! are you kidding me, a hospital without water! http://adfoc.us/4138183644

  • Graham - 2012-02-19 18:00

    It's not news anymore! Just what is expected! Just very depressing.

  • Riedwaan Jefferies - 2012-02-19 18:10

    Service delivery? Just another slogan, just another joke! Fire the moron of a Hospital Manager. Surely water could have been trucked in, if the valve could not be fixed in time. Perhaps there's no money left to this.

  • Charmaine - 2012-02-19 18:11

    Jacob Zuma must sort out this crisis, He is the Leader of what Nation? God have mercy on the patients.

  • Siya Sibi Melthafa - 2012-02-19 18:26

    I'm sorry for those patients who have to go through this ordeal. The lack of water won't minimise their bill at the end of the day. This is pathetic from the department of health! ! ! It boils down to the same old point of lack of service delivery.

  • Muhammed Bhyat - 2012-02-19 18:27

    So the collapse of state hospital is going some what like this: is started off with patients having to supply their own linen. We now at a stage where patients must source their own water. Very soon patients will have to bring along their own doctors too because we refuse to work in these sub-standard conditions! A time does come when even the most optimistic of doctors realize that its time to head out of public service. We are now at this stage.

  • Siya Sibi Melthafa - 2012-02-19 18:29

    I'm sorry for those patients who have to go through this ordeal. The lack of water won't minimise their bill at the end of the day. This is pathetic from the department of health! ! ! It boils down to the same old point of lack of service delivery.

  • criticallyhonest - 2012-02-19 18:36

    Will the responsibe person please admit their mistakes and take the blame? Then, how about any public servant in need of hospitalisation is admitted to this hospital?

  • Sheik - 2012-02-19 18:37

    ANC operates only under Crisis Management, Long term planning was an Apartheid concept.

  • Blane - 2012-02-19 18:40

    What about the toilets , it must smell rather sharp in there

  • Marion - 2012-02-19 18:41

    No wonder people are terrified to go to government hospitals. I have heard numerous people who need to make use of a government hospital say how scared they are to go into hospital because they don't think they'll come out alive.

      mariuskowie - 2012-02-19 18:52

      Well said. 10000 thumbs up's

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-02-19 19:25

      Dora in PE and the Uitenhage Provincial Hospital are pretty safe bets. The Humansdorp Hospital is also well run. Let's give credit where credit is due.

  • Swapie - 2012-02-19 18:42

    The hospital and the department could not immediately be reached for comment. Suppose telephones are also disconnected.

  • Dalai - 2012-02-19 18:48

    GOOD SERVICE DELIVERY!

  • david.roets - 2012-02-19 19:02

    This is criminal!

  • Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-02-19 19:02

    Hehehehe, n everyone argues their points n Thandi calls me a moron! Yes Thandi I am a moron if twill make u feel better whatever moron means, I guess sure with lack of accountability so much goes wrong, bt with tht sad ds shouldn't take away the responsibility of the people concerned, from what u are saying it wd make sense to blame ANC, however no one mentiones anything bout the Administrators who made a choice not to do anything! Assuming they didn't as far fetched as tht is!

      Dalai - 2012-02-19 19:23

      "comrade" they are deployed cadres whose speciality is bootlicking and running down functioning entities to the ground

      Riedwaan Jefferies - 2012-02-19 19:41

      Dude, the guys that employ you should be placed in front of a firing squad. If employed you must be a cadre in the civil service, b'cos clearly you don't have a clue.

      pws69 - 2012-02-19 20:11

      Those administrators ARE ANC. Like I said earlier 2+2 = Sheesh, you are no doubt a product of ANC OBE education, and failed math literacy on top of it

      pws69 - 2012-02-19 20:20

      Mtshezi, Tell me, is the Chairman of Nehawu in Limpopo also a white DA racist? "Nehawu Limpopo chairperson Mike Shingange said conditions in hospitals were deteriorating because of poor procurement practices by the department. “We wouldn’t be in this situation if there were proper controls and measures in place. This problem has been ongoing since 2009 because there was no regard for processes. Instead people gave tenders to politically connected individuals who were paid as they pleased,” said Shingange." http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Hospitals-in-Limpopo-on-the-verge-of-collapse-20120218-2 ROTFLMWAO

      pws69 - 2012-02-19 20:22

      Mtshezi, Is Limpopo SCOPA also white racist DA run? Is that why they have also taken THREE YEARS to address this ANC corruption? "Limpopo Standing Committee on Public Accounts (Scopa) chairperson, Derrick Ngobeni, said accounting officers would be hauled before the committee on February 27 to account for the shocking state of affairs." ROTFLMWAO x 2

      pws69 - 2012-02-19 20:25

      Mtshezi, Why is it that the moment a corrupt ANC cadre is found out, when they resign they ANC immediately withdraws charges, and redeploys them a few months later? Is this to improve service delivery to ANC voters, or to protect all of the corrupt scum in the ANC? Added to that, when Zuma said he would not go down alone when charged with corruption, do you consider that an admission of guilt or innocence? Remember that he was NEVER cleared of the charges, as they were withdrawn on the flimsiest of excuses by that ANC scum Mpshe, who was rewarded with a judgeship.

  • Elize - 2012-02-19 19:22

    They should get some advice from Mrs Zille as how to run a hospital, lovely article in the Sunday Times about Grootte Schuur Hospital.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-02-19 19:27

      Grootte Schuur is fantastic. I visited a friend there after she had a bone-marrow transplant. Although the hospital doesn't have fancy curtains and all the frills, it is clean, efficient, and staffed by people who believe in making a difference.

  • trevor.putterill - 2012-02-19 19:53

    say hello to the new national health system- africa style oops lets blame the previous goverment how about declaring an emergency situation and calling in additional reources........

  • Herbert - 2012-02-19 20:05

    VIVA !!!! As in Limpopo, clear evidence of Eish, what now?

  • Chappies ZA - 2012-02-19 20:05

    Lekker man lekker ... It is just getting better!!! No wonder some of the biggest corporates are moving all their offices to Cape Town.!!

  • bradleybrits - 2012-02-19 20:38

    How are the patients drinking their pills with no water? Or how do the staff wash their hands? No infection control without hand washing..

  • Mboneni - 2012-02-19 21:55

    If it is true that patients are without water,for days that is disgraceful,patients deserve better teatment as water is life

  • brionyl.french - 2012-02-20 06:05

    This is disgusting!!! WHAT IS GOING ON!?!?!?!

  • Ross - 2012-02-20 08:51

    The department of health is too worried about banning acohol adverts, which i guess, is somehow more important than mending hospitals, clinics and to support uneducated nurses and under supplied hospitals?

  • Dirk - 2012-02-20 08:52

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  • zee.kimble - 2012-02-20 09:55

    May the DA rise up and eradicate the ANC so that we can all live together in a country that is safe, fair and just!!!

  • Craig - 2012-02-29 14:43

    In the 18 months the 'New" MEC has been in charge, things have got worse. Thus we wait for the next one in 22 months time. Vasbyt people...

  • smaabe - 2012-11-19 13:03

    Anyway, who cares? This hospital is for Whites and foreigners living in the CBD. Let them suffer.

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