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Tutu shocks audience with outburst

2012-09-04 08:02

Cape Town - Archbishop emeritus Desmond Tutu shocked the audience at a Cape Town book launch with an outburst of outrage and anger about the state of the country.

Beeld reported that Tutu erupted with a raw, anguished cry despite sitting right behind a deputy minister and top ANC member.

The chatty audience at the book launch of Father Michael Lapsley’s autobiography Redeeming the Past was immediately silenced.

“What on earth are you doing!” Tutu called out.

“I am 80-years-old. Can’t you allow us elders to go to our graves with a smile, knowing that this is a good country? Because truly - it is a good country!” Tutu pleaded emotionally.

Struggle activist Lapsley lost both hands and an eye in a letter bomb sent by apartheid authorities.

When Tutu later spoke at the podium he asked: “How can we have children 18 years later (after the dawn of democracy) who go to school under trees and whose education is being crushed without textbooks and no one is held accountable? Have we so quickly forgotten the price of freedom?

“People are going to sleep hungry in this freedom for which people were tortured and harmed…

“It is difficult to believe people are getting such money and benefits, and are driving such flashy cars while the masses suffer in cramped shacks.”

“Marikana felt like a nightmare, but that is what our democracy is in 2012.”  

Comments
  • Jason - 2012-09-04 08:07

    Well said, but Im sorry to tell you that the cANCer cadre dont give a hoot about you or Madiba!

      mike.dufham.7 - 2012-09-04 08:11

      I agree with you. They have no conscience. They say that criminals do not have a conscience, so that places the ANC in the correct box

      Daniel - 2012-09-04 08:23

      As much as you cry, nothing will happen, the BEAST is consuming itself.

      JHLR73 - 2012-09-04 09:01

      South Africa was declared as a doomed country during apartheid, a system that must go for the better off all. And so it did. But 20 years later, South Africa seems to be headed for disaster again.Doomed as during the apartheid years, with other forces now helping assisting with our downfall. Will there ever be hope for this country? It seems not to be the case

      alan.jerrold - 2012-09-04 09:02

      It has become very obvious that the ANC are only in power to make themselves rich, and most definitely NOT to serve the people or the poor. They are truly a corrupt and useless government. So it is heartening when people like Tutu, Reuel Khoza, Moeletsi Mbeki, Dr Mamphela Ramphele, Lindiwe Mazibuko, Thuli Madonsela and others speak out. The ANC's only defence so far, when accused of incompetence and thievery, has been to cry 'Racist!'. Now that's getting harder and harder to do as more and more intelligent Black folk are speaking out. Truly, it's time for change in this nation of ours.

      diep.dinker - 2012-09-04 09:04

      @tim. I agree. I believe the following words are very appropriate in this instance: You reap what you sow!

      arthur.hugh - 2012-09-04 09:09

      Well if he's waking up now... better late than never.

      james.weather.50 - 2012-09-04 09:18

      I respect Desmond Tutu!!! He says what he feels ...

      mo.matt.14 - 2012-09-04 09:43

      I have never before understood exactly how wise George Orwell was when he wrote Animal Farm until I have seen it happen with my own eyes. For those who don't know, its about the pigs rallying up the rest of the farm animals to throw over the oppressive regime of the farmers. When they eventually do they declare by law that ALL animals are now equal. They all work hard together for a "better future for all". But as the pigs get used to the power they start allowing themselves more liberties, always justifying it to the rest of the animals with some lame reason. Eventually they move into the farmers house and start walking on two legs, and turn out much worse oppressors than the farmers ever were. And their equality law now read: "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". Is that not SO typical of what happened here. We started off with freedom and equality for all South Africans. Now the so called "leaders" are above the law, raking in for their own benefit, oppressing their very own people for their personal gain. And very fast becoming worse than the previous oppressors ever was. Lets hope that the people, like the animals in the book, will eventually wake up to the truth and take them down. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

      junebugg.kinte - 2012-09-04 09:59

      Tutu is the realist for always speaking his mind but sadly people respect him when he is saying what suits them...When he said white should compensate for Apartheid in his speech in WC, White people were bashing him and ANC Supporters were praising him...When he is bashing the current Government White people happy and ANC Supporters are bashing him....its unfortunate.

      phumlani.q.shongwe - 2012-09-04 11:30

      @Thanang, Well said!!!!!!!!

      wt.echoridgetimes - 2012-09-04 12:24

      Their will never be a resolution to racism from both parties. Black people are racist and White people are racist and that is about all we have in common.

      pisciotta - 2012-09-04 13:27

      Unfortunately there are not enough intelligent people left in SA to counter the votes of the fools. Successful democracy requires intelligence of the majority - or an Intelligent Electorial College who can buffer against the backwards bush mentality that remains in SA even in the 21st Century.

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-09-04 13:43

      at ALL who still think it's about the color of one's skin: It's about what works and what is in SA today isn't working. And before it all falls apart (because rebuilding from rubble is a lot harder than growing what is there now) a growing group of people need to understand that. It's not about race it's about making the country function and grow

      juan.prinsloo.750 - 2012-09-04 14:29

      Hey Tutu you and Madiba should join forces with the DA. Help root out the cANCer that's consuming us.

      james.rossouw - 2012-09-04 14:32

      Hey Thabang "ever innocent whites" in reality cannot be blamed for the decrepid state SA is finding itself in.

      itumeleng.mogaki - 2012-09-04 16:29

      @mo.matt.14, I could not have said it better. My heart bleeds after I read this, even a tear escaped my eye. When will this ever come to an end, I'm at pains to have to bring a child into this world (country) and having to also deal with such cowardly, greedy, stubborn people. Change must come!

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-09-04 16:58

      @mattewis.kat, I hate your comment but at least you are consistent. Unlike those that love him today for saying what they like and call him all names when He says what they dont like. E.g. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Tutus-white-tax-is-racist-20110813.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-09-04 18:14

      TuTu has lost his TuTu

      boeretroos.redakteur - 2012-09-04 22:02

      Tutu - why did you remove my comments ?

      derek.smith.12177276 - 2012-09-05 11:24

      mo.matt.14 its uncanny...been thinking about the same book....especially the part where the humans and pigs sat around the table and it was hard for the other animals looking through the window from the outside to distinguish between pig and human...must say that book was utterly prophetic....

      donovanjohn.linley - 2012-09-05 13:35

      @ mo.matt.14 - 'animal farm' crossed my mind several years ago ... I even assigned some characters to people: Old major= the visionary forefathers e.g Nelson Mandela, Tutu, Albert Luthuli, oliver Tambo etc. Snowball = Mbeki Napoleon = zuma Squealer = Malema The other pigs = the fat cats, the tenderpreneurships etc Boxer = the hard working but dim witted proletariate The farmer = apartheid regime Etc Orwell's book was asked on the Bolshevik revolution. It is funny how observational wisdom of the past can be applied today. History truly repeats itself.

      grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-09-05 15:21

      mo.mat.14 In the book the animals did not sort things out in the end they were just resigned to accept things. I fear that the same scenario will apply in SA. If there was just one African country that had improved after a regime change I would have hope.

      willem.vanrensburg.562 - 2012-09-05 16:43

      Mr TUTU is a very dissapointed man...and so he should be..

      boeretroos.redakteur - 2012-09-05 19:09

      Tuuts - are you sure the bomb sent to lapsley came from the previous regime ? - The anc have been known to harm their own - like marikana's chaos and then pass the blame to another.

  • thamsanqa.d.mahlangu - 2012-09-04 08:11

    Our goverment is failing us Big Time......

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-09-04 08:22

      Time to give the only real alternative to the ANC the DA a term or two in office, the present ANC supporters have to realise they have nothing to lose and everything to gain, if I'm wrong then vote the ANC back in power, but I won't be wrong.

      diep.dinker - 2012-09-04 09:08

      @bob. I agree but I am sorry to say we are farting against thunder my friend. Tens of millions of ANC supporters will NEVER realise this, they will believe that the ANC freed them forever, regardless of the fact that they are living in absolute shambles. It is the African way my friend...

      fredster.mania.5 - 2012-09-04 09:17

      because the WANT to struggle

      jeremy.acton - 2012-09-04 10:09

      The DA does not answer policy enquiries from the public. They do not disclose their big business funding. They and the ANC are two sides of the same NWO agenda that the ANC has openly admitted drives its actions. The DA is the white face of corporate fascism, BEWARE!!!!

      timothy.tanzer.5 - 2012-09-04 10:29

      @ keaobaka you are so wrong.. considering Zille risked her life as an ANTI-apartheid activist.. she exposed the truth behind Steve Biko... So actually you have all been brainwashed to believe that DA are defenders of apartheid. All I can say is... suffer, if you vote for suffering, don't march, don't strike, just suck it up and struggle... because at the end of the day .. struggle was chosen.. and South Africa is about to struggle more than we could have ever imagined. When petrol goes over R15 /litre (and is still R8/litre in Botswana who buy it from us) ...food at record highs... then you can all be thankful that we are struggling and suffering 18 years after apartheid ended! Viva South Africa..and thats all!

      phumlani.q.shongwe - 2012-09-04 11:45

      @bob.mcmillen.564 Dream on Buddy. @junnebugg.kinte You are 100% correct "PEOPLE DON'T CHANGE"

      mastermindpete - 2012-09-04 11:48

      @ Jeremy Acton - Cannabis much, clearly you nor your bungi buddies see very clearly in the political haze. The ANC-pf discloses none of their sources either, and then steal from the poor to feed themselves - eerrrmmm - OBE logic much !!!

      jensuffhaus - 2012-09-04 12:41

      @morama.sebata. While I will vote DA, I see nothing wrong with you voting for AZAPO. Anything that will dilute the power of the ANC. We can't afford to have any ONE party with all the power. A healthy balance of power allowing decisions to be challenged and properly vetted is what we need. As long as anyone realizes the cANCer is not the answer, vote for any opposition, just don't keep making the same mistake over and over while expecting a different result. (This is the definition of insanity after all).

      alexandra.robertson.969 - 2012-09-04 13:56

      @keaobaka.mokae - you are very wrong about Helen Suzman being the only white person in the DA to stand up to the Apartheid government. Please do a little research into the DP and the Progressive Party and it's members. I personally know many people from these parties who were jailed, threatened and followed by they apartheid government. A family friend of ours was almost trampled to death while protesting the racist policies of the past. Please don't allow ignorance to inform your decisions and your bias.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 14:48

      Keaobaka.mokae. if it weren't for Helen Zille the world would probably never have heard of Steve Biko. It doesn't look as if you know much about Helen Zille, her past and her activities. Just as you do not know much about the struggle icons in general. You have no idea how many people risked their lives and their property and that is a pity. Don't assume just because you see white faces in the DA that you therefore have the right to make the wrongful assumptions of those that support the party. In this case you are wrong, learn from it.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 14:52

      Junebug kinte. it is a pity that you allow yourself to make assumptions about the DA and white people after reading something here and there. Don't you think achievements make a better criteria to base your decisions on?.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 14:53

      Jeremy.Acton, who has filled your head with tea leaves?.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 14:56

      Phumlani.q.shongwe. I am sorry you think people can't or won't change. That means we are stuck with the corrupt mess we have now. I refuse to believe that.

      wo0two0t - 2012-09-04 14:57

      junebugg.kinte - are you surprised at the racism on this forum? What you need to understand is the ANC promote racism - everything they do they paint black South Africans as useless uneducated people who just want to take take take without any contribution to the wealth of this country. When I lived abroad it was totally different because blacks didn’t expect whites to be their slaves and just give give give the whole time they worked for what they wanted without this entitlement that we have here. What makes a black South Africa entitled to anything? What did they do in their previous life to deserve this entitlement? Where on this Earth is someone entitled to land without buying it or working for it except Africa?

      alexandra.robertson.969 - 2012-09-05 09:47

      @tshililo.siobo your view on the DA is informed by propaganda fed to you by the ruling party. Before closing the book on the DA maybe get to know it and its history and THEN make your decision. I don't feel everyone should vote DA but I do think you should choose who you do and don't vote for, basses on fact and not what the opposition feeds you. Come to your OWN conclusions.

      derek.smith.12177276 - 2012-09-05 11:27

      they will struggle till kingdom come....

      zondra.hoffmann - 2012-09-05 12:23

      Governments will keep on failing because eventually they all go the same route - ruling with absolute power which enables them to do what they want, when they want and to whom they want. And the voters are to blame, because we vote for them. Having the vote therefore means absolutely NOTHING and does not guarantee you anything, especially what was promised to you during an election campaign. Once the voting is done and dusted, the promises are forgotten until the next time.

  • spookhuis - 2012-09-04 08:12

    Pity the Anc don't give a damn, they spend too much time feeding at the trough. Bunch of PIGS.

      klasgoran.olsson - 2012-09-04 08:55

      What you say Spookhuis is exactly how democracy in theories are supposed to function. I agree with you even if I don´t know if DA is a good choice. I guess there are no other alternatives.

      klasgoran.olsson - 2012-09-04 10:54

      Morama. I must confee I don´t know so much about Azapo. I looked it up and saw that it is inspired from Steven Biko. He is actaully one of my favourites from the freedom struggle. What I read it seems okay sith me, but when looking up your FB page, the first I see is a weapon....I will rather fight the violence, not encourage..

      maree.cassie - 2012-09-05 07:59

      You are correct, the ANC don't care. I however believe this was a cry to the people of our country? Maybe we should change our mindsets and start making a difference? Maybe he is trying to say he can't get through to the thick heads of the ANC, so he is trying to get through to the people?

  • Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-09-04 08:13

    But Desmond Tutu. You voted this government into power. Don't you remember - when you placed your vote into the ballot box. The reality is that you get the government you voted for.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-04 08:18

      The ANC have descedended from a party that gave the nation hope under Madiba, to a party which (apart from a few individuals) has zero credibility anymore. I doubt if Tutu would vote for the anc today.

      price.moyo.9 - 2012-09-04 08:24

      Rabble.rouser...yes he voted for them, whats your point? Surely you are not suggesting that the archbishop shld not say anything against the ANC just because he voted for them, or are u? Isnt that the essence of democracy?.... to vote for the party of your choice, hold them to account whn they go astray?

      merven.halo - 2012-09-04 08:48

      @price.moyo.9 - you can not mention the ANC and democracy in the same sentence.

      letsallbefriendsdammit - 2012-09-04 08:53

      Well said Juliette. RabbleRouser, your argument is stupid.. Rather allow someone to make amends than to condemn them to a corner based on past actions

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-04 08:55

      well said Juliette and Price

      wesley.adriaanse.1 - 2012-09-04 09:04

      THis is not the gov he voted for. this is not the freedom he fought for. This is Animal Farm. When Madiba goes, it will just get worse. When the Arch is no longer there to call them on their behaviour, who will? Juju?

      angle.g.man - 2012-09-04 09:07

      You do know that Desmond Tutu appeared on a DA publicity video in 2008. He might have voted for the ANC in 1994 but there is a very good chance that he didn't vote for the present Zuma administration so please give the old guy a break.

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-09-04 16:38

      Tutu may well have voted for the ANC in the first election, but did he do so in the second one? A few of my friends have said that they would never have voted for the ANC in 1994 if they knew the mess this country would become. - Kathy

      doug.norris.581 - 2012-09-05 07:25

      Well said Price Moyo, I think that you understand what democracy is about better than a lot of people - that includes some of the mamparas in power. Desmond Tutu has never been afraid to speak his mind. I haven't always agreed with him, but mostly he has made a lot of sense, and challenged my paradigms - nothing wrong with that.

      derek.smith.12177276 - 2012-09-05 11:28

      Hey Tutu you served that food....now eat it!!

  • gil.n.chivas - 2012-09-04 08:13

    You speak a raw, painful truth Papa!

      don.maclean.925 - 2012-09-04 17:50

      All except for "this is a good country'. It's not. And for good reason; too much violence, too many idiots in charge, and really no hope at all of the country EVER changing for the better. The future looks grim.

  • yaschoeman - 2012-09-04 08:14

    Mr Tutu hit the nail in the head. lets see who and what the ANC going to do about it, the way we know then "Nothing" is more like it.

  • alan.cargen - 2012-09-04 08:14

    What is unfortunate is that these same people the government is failing will vote them back into power again and again...

      marc.klynhans - 2012-09-04 08:54

      And again and again and again.......

      suash - 2012-09-04 10:46

      It's sad because the people that vote them into power are uneducated. Education is the key to fixing this country and the ANC knows this hence the reason why our education system is so poor.

  • michael.barns.1 - 2012-09-04 08:16

    Well at least he didn't blame the white people like last time, and ask to have a, "white tax." Maybe now he will start to realise that the problem is with the ANC and all their cadres!

  • Simon - 2012-09-04 08:17

    Yep - this isn't the country he fought for. Unfortunately all we have seen this past electoral term is a government feeding frenzy and power flex. Hardly nation building. We still have what it takes to be a great nation. unfortunately I don't think the current leadership (showing a great lack there of) have what it takes to move this country into greatness. Madiba had it. We need a new breed of politicians that understand that they work for the people and not the other way round.

  • johan.verster.90 - 2012-09-04 08:17

    I'm sorry to say but the day Madiba dies his dream of true freedom dies with him.....He is the last if the true freedom fighters,the others are just in it for the money and power.

      merven.halo - 2012-09-04 08:49

      LOL, you think Mandela didn't pocket all the way while in power? Where do you think his grand children got all their money from?

      chez.kri - 2012-09-04 09:36

      @merven.halo. With all he did for this country do you believe he doesn't deserve to die comfortable? All those years doing hard labour and he must get nothing? Why? Leave Mandela alone

      ivan.frantz.3 - 2012-09-04 09:50

      @ Merven , from the Mandela Childrens Fund , He, he . . .

      tsebo.nkadimeng - 2012-09-04 18:21

      MADIBA'S DREAM WILL COME TO PASS AS SOON AS HE DEPART FROM THIS EARTH...THE FUTURE POLITICIANS WILL CARRY ON WITH THE LEGACY, LONG LIVE MANDELA-LONG LIVE,GOD BLESS MANDELA.

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-09-04 08:17

    It must be very hard for someone who truely went through the struggle and fought so hard to get freedom to see greedy thieves destroy a great country!!

      vincent.v.sambo - 2012-09-04 08:32

      During apartheid, we had the African National Congress and in the 21st Century, we have the African National Clowns

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 15:09

      Peterjeff. Hard, it isn't hard it is heartbreaking to think we struggled so hard and so long. We had such dreams for this country and all it's people. Cold nights in a wintery Europe we would huddle together and dream about being home. Every dream started with a braai, pap en sous. Black, brown, white we were one people. Now look what we have, most of us are ignored, our efforts trampled and our dreams destroyed. No wonder so many have become bitter, but I refuse to go that road. No, I am going to keep dreaming of that South Africa where there is room for us all and where we live as one nation, for I simply refuse to believe that what we have now is what we deserve. We are too magnificent to be ruled by the mediocre. Better times will come for us all, wait and see.

  • leonard.w.gray - 2012-09-04 08:19

    Tutu is a legend, I feel he is the last of the old school freedom fighters that have integrity and who actually cares about the people in this country. Its in utter disgrace that the people have to rely on an 80 year old church minister to voice their concerns, while the ruling party and their comrades suck the country dry through corruption and nepotism at the expense of the rotting masses.

  • charles.szente - 2012-09-04 08:19

    Shocks audience? Really, since when does the Arch not say what he is thinking and as important what he is feeling? I can imagine the frustration and hurt as you work your life through for something only to see those who follow you, not value it and squander the good willand years of toil for short term gains.

      chez.kri - 2012-09-04 09:39

      @charles. I agree; I'm sure they were not shocked at all. The Arch always has something to say and I'm sure the audience were waiting and expecting him to deliver. And he did, in his usual style. Viva the Arch Viva!!

      penny.stone.589 - 2012-09-05 22:10

      Read the article again. "Tutu erupted with a raw, anguished cry despite sitting right behind a deputy minister and top ANC member". It was only later he gave a speech at the podium. Hoping the two okies in front of him caught a fat skrik!

  • johan.vanheerden.737 - 2012-09-04 08:20

    The chickens are coming home to roost

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-09-04 08:20

    Well said. Desmond. ~ Anarchy. Nepotism Corruption

  • sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-09-04 08:23

    Be carefull Tutu, Zuma will have you killed for speaking your mind

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-09-04 08:51

      @PF You gotta be the brainless idiot to put that comment on here. Guess your one of the ANC's biatches that bends over and takes it from behind. Well enjoy it while it lasts. Dont come crying when they leave u to suffer in your shack.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 15:13

      Darryl.maze1. I cannot imagine that people give you the thumbs up. Apparently the gutter affect is spreading here.

      gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-09-05 07:42

      He will not. He is a coward, otherwise Malema would already be in hell,where he belongs.

  • jurgen.eksteen - 2012-09-04 08:25

    Speak up!!! Speak out!!! Pour it into the heads of the ANC.

  • Bantu Holomisa - 2012-09-04 08:25

    I told you so as early as 1996. Comrades in Corruption!

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-09-04 09:11

      Mr Holomisa. You are a noteworthy and astute politician. My humble take on this is, SA needs to get the cANCer out of power, sooner rather than later. It may be a pipe-dream, but all opposition parties need to get together under one umbrella with straight forward ideologies to fight this scourge that the present government has become. At the very least, to form a strong and effective opposition. One wonders just how long a new government would need to clean up the public service and rout out and bring to book all those involved in corruption and theft of public funds. The time is now, for some collective and imaginative thinking.

      anwar.rassool - 2012-09-04 09:31

      time is now, for some collective action..

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 15:17

      Bantu Holomisa, as an old struggler I would like to know how it came so far that we are stuck with what we have now as a government?.

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-09-05 08:44

      Yes! Bantu Holomisa is back, good on you. Hope we are going to hear a lot more from you, and that you will be a regular penman on news24

  • clivegoss - 2012-09-04 08:28

    Bless you sir

  • jonathan.retter - 2012-09-04 08:28

    So do i

  • jonathan.retter - 2012-09-04 08:29

    So do i

  • stefan.kruger.1297 - 2012-09-04 08:34

    GO TUTU!!! Say the truth brother!! Preach it!! Screw the government!!

  • kevin.moxham.3 - 2012-09-04 08:34

    Cadre deployment - incompetent, greedy and lazy appointments are wasting our resources and sinking the country - simple as that -why not appoint our citizens who have the skills and professionalism in these positions -then we would not have this mess.....!

  • michael.j.anderson.144 - 2012-09-04 08:35

    Beloved Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu. I elect you as the Heart of South Africa, and the social moral compass of our country. There was a time, when I was young, and simply following what the society, then, taught and led me. In those days I detested you, without even knowing why. Decades have passed and with my prejudices dismantled, I began seeing you as a leader. I softened to your way and began seeing your passion. And then you snubbed the mass murderer war criminal Tony "I kill women and children for profit" Blair, and my respect for you shot sky high. You have been decent in the recent past, as you have watched the daylight, wholesale rape of this country. But passion and knowing will trump the rational sooner or later. And you have burst, you couldn't contain yourself any longer. It is my prayer that more people join you, and get upset. Politics is a slow, hidden game of manipulation of money flow, nothing more. It's time to get emotional and throw toys in front of cameras and in public. Why have our leaders not done this earlier? You speak and cry the Truth. You cry the beloved country. There is something wrong when a rape-accused, charge-dodging criminal fraudster (who takes showers to avoid catching AIDS) sits in the presidential seat. He who builds his own hospital after destroying the ones we have, he whose excessive insanely lavish lifestyle insults every human in this country. When will more cry for our beloved country?

      marc.klynhans - 2012-09-04 09:24

      +1. Unfortunately, the (majority of the) people we want so badly to be educated and taken care of believe that white people are racist for voting against ANC and black people who vote against ANC are traitors. And their "leaders" know this and feed off it. What a country we could be living in, and how sad that we don't! BEE IMHO is such an insult to our country's potential. Having the most expensive car and the most expensive house and eating the most expensive food and living the life of extreme luxury and not having enough is an insult to the people who have just about nothing. Textbook deprivation is an insult to the tax payers. When the last taxpayer has gone bankrupt, when the last labourer has died of lack of healthcare and decent living conditions, when the last entrepreneur has left the country, only then will this leadership realize that you reap what you sow.

      chez.kri - 2012-09-04 09:48

      @Michael. Bless you for saying what so many of us think. If I was ever lucky enough to meet the Arch, the first thing i would do is apologise. back in the 80's i did not understand or agree with him. then one day while visiting a black man in his home he explained what Tutu was doing and why. It all made sense and i realised i was wrong and the Arch was right. I have never doubted him since. If he is such good friends with the Dalai Lama, he must be doing something right. Bless you Arch and all you stand for. (and i am a white, over 40 female whjo well remembers the 70's and 80's)

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-09-04 10:30

      I agree Desmond Tutu is the saint that Nelson Mandela never was..!Wake up world and denounce this old fraud!

  • price.moyo.9 - 2012-09-04 08:36

    African people are a funny lot, they complain so biterly abt a party/president, but whn it comes to voting, they vote for the same corrupt and looters of national resources. Look at Zim, angola etc. On what moral grounds is MPl's Dosantos in Angola still in power? And yet to my surprise and disgust the guy won by a landslide! Why why?

      halvor.rosholt - 2012-09-04 08:42

      Bribery and vote rigging, I would guess

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-04 08:57

      and free T-Shirts and Mealie Meal at election time, and of course - the usual empty promises.

  • rkashiri - 2012-09-04 08:36

    Politicians never listen to anyone. They forget the reason they're in office. They clearly don't know why it's called "public office". Someone needs to constantly remind them, too bad it always fall on deaf if not dead ears

  • tobiasmuller - 2012-09-04 08:37

    The Arch is an idealistic man with noble and sincere intentions, but this is Africa, my friend. AFRICA. The revolution was always intended to benefit a small clique, not the masses. The pattern is the same for the vast majority of countries on this continent. The mistake that South Africans make is the same as Zimbabweans before them-that they are somehow different to the rest.

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-09-04 08:37

    The ANC is the only party that the vast majority of black people will consider voting for. That is the problem. If there is no pressure to perform then why should they? No one will vote them out, ever.

      doug.norris.581 - 2012-09-05 13:58

      John, I don't know if you remember a time when only a few believed that the National Party of the apartheid era would ever be voted out of power. The old "Ek stem Nat omdat my Pa het Nat gestem" mentality repeating itself in a different setting - but the concept is the same. Hope gone? I hope not.

  • justin.pretorius - 2012-09-04 08:37

    Only woke up now to reality??

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-09-04 08:38

    The ANC you were in Tutu wanted democracy and won it. The ANC of today is filled with greed and corruption. It is a party that has forgotten its values. They care more about what flashy cars they drive, there big fancy houses, expensive Jonny Walker blue label and the expensive private schools they send there kids to. They do not care about there own ppl, they do not care about the education of the poor. You ANC no longer exists. It is in the past. This ANC has lost all true sense of value and will never change. There greasy hands are to deep in the money jar.

  • lemz.mohlabe - 2012-09-04 08:39

    desmont tutu tellem

  • halvor.rosholt - 2012-09-04 08:40

    God bless the Arch! Always there to be brave when all around him fail. However, he's like the waves breaking on rocks ineffective unless you've a thousand years spare to watch and wait.

  • loo.steyn - 2012-09-04 08:41

    Let me explain the problem were sitting with. Govt want to create jobs. Keep on hammering on JOB creation. They should focus on EMPLOYER creation. And even more important, help sustain existing, reliable and competent companies to grow further (black and white companies). The problem is that govt. wants to give everyone a chance now , even if a company is new and inexperienced with not necessarily the better product/solution, they get awarded HUGE tenders which they are not able to handle / nor manage. Upon this tenderer failing, another one gets appointed and same happens till the end where "crisis" management gets applied and a third stable company gets appointed to fix the "disaster" This all costing 50- 100 % more of the original budget. Rather concentrate on existing , reliable companies and force them to form JV's. What does it help to starve a big company already employing 100 people plus for the sake of giving a company a chance with 20 employees and no track record. All that's happening is that the small company goes bust , ,and the big company retrenches. End of the day 20+30 people sit without jobs. A plantation farmer although he plants new trees, NEVER starves his existing trees as he knows . .in doing so he is doomed. Same principle applies for doctors and dentists opening road construction companies. THIS people will NEVER work.

  • afriend.ofyoda - 2012-09-04 08:42

    amen

  • jeremia.magongwa - 2012-09-04 08:42

    Eish money has taken over our people ,no more freedom but free cash .

  • desertratbkf - 2012-09-04 08:43

    cANCer is just as evil, if not WORSE than apartheid!

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-09-04 08:43

    I don't get how Tutu can now lament the state of the country when the very people who have lead us in this direction are the very people he claims to have supported over the years. He should have kicked the anc cadre's backsides harder when he had the chance and asking them to impose an additional tax on whites was defintely not the way to do it.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-09-04 08:44

    Well said Sir Tutu. No more morals in this government. It's take take take and then steal the rest. And yet, people do nothing. Absolutely amazing.

  • cathy.vanvollenstee - 2012-09-04 08:45

    If only what he said and continually says could make a difference, but sadly the ANC doesn't give a hoot! Their coffers are full, their stomachs are full, their children go to the best private schools....

  • desertratbkf - 2012-09-04 08:46

    I have a DEMAND! WE WANT, and DEMAND, that this filthy government dissolve and and a true democratic, non thieving, non criminal, government be formed! VERMIN!!!!!

  • james.eayrs - 2012-09-04 08:47

    I doubt the audience was "shocked". Why be shocked about a right minded response to what's happening in SA?

  • danie.smit.587 - 2012-09-04 08:48

    Bishop Tutu , apartheid was demeaning to people like you. But was apartheid a better choice rather than black rule ? If not, can you explain how apartheid SA provide better medical care , education and economic prospects to the ordinary black person in SA, than what other black rule nations could for their citizens. During apartheid why did black people left their free black rule countries to look for economic , medical and educational opportunities in this repressive apartheid state? Bishop Tutu, its unthinkable but historical facts in Africa proof that the well being of the ordinary black person where better cared for by the hated apartheid system? Its a fact this hated apartheid state provide more university degree opportunities, hospital beds and school desk for black people than the average for other black rule african countries.How with worldwide sanctions?

      phae.rayden - 2012-09-04 09:21

      This government is useless and corrupt and needs to be voted out, but if you think any sane person wants the return of apartheid you are insane. Don't you get it? It was a disgusting system no matter how well you thought it worked. People get fed, educated, clothed and medical attention in jail, and I'm sure that's how it felt for the majority of people under apartheid.

      neville.chamberlain.509 - 2012-09-04 11:05

      @tienie.mac - no she doesn't, never will either.

      phae.rayden - 2012-09-04 11:12

      @tienie.mac then what is his point? Do you think us cleaver Whites should still be running things in this country without apartheid? SA was on the brink of total economic collapse when apartheid ended, please don't tell me you think it ended out of the goodness of the Nat parties heart. I still maintain you don't get it.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 15:21

      phae.Rayden, NO ONE wants apartheid back and that includes Danie. Don't jump to conclusions.

      phae.rayden - 2012-09-04 16:18

      Tienie and Neville,....'Bishop Tutu , apartheid was demeaning to people like you' wow that sentence reflects real empathy. And next 'But was apartheid a better choice rather than black rule ? If not, can you explain.....' What can I be missing? It seems pretty clear to me.

  • cheslyn.francis - 2012-09-04 08:49

    Shocking shame to let an elder who bled and sacrificed his time to end in a rant like this -ANC (ANOTHER NON-PERFORMING COMPANY) is sendin this country to hell in a handbag! Truly a shame to open up news24 each day and the headline is death, murder, mine violence and mayhem -Where are all the good people!?

  • richard.zanner - 2012-09-04 08:51

    Well spoken. Unfortunately the power hungry have brushed aside the older generation

  • linda.cooke.37266 - 2012-09-04 08:54

    Tutu my hero!

  • linda.cooke.37266 - 2012-09-04 08:54

    Tutu my hero!

  • albert.opperman.7 - 2012-09-04 08:55

    Well said Bishop Tutu! Our Country can do with more clear-thinking and level-headed people like you who are not scared to speak their minds!

  • rudie.stoltz - 2012-09-04 08:57

    Its funny that he should say such things. For he is also a member of the freemasons where he holds rank. Its theyre purpose to confuse so that theyre true master can comeforth.

      chez.kri - 2012-09-04 09:51

      Oh dear, another conspiracy nutter rears his crazy head

      PETESKEAT - 2012-09-04 19:36

      Absolute nonsense, Rudie. My late uncle, a 33rd degree Mason, did nothing but good for others throughout his life. Your implication is spurious.

  • chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-09-04 08:58

    God is in control. TuTu... You do believe in Jesus right? Then you know He is in control right?! Just trust Him. Nations get punished for their lack of belief, like USA is being punished now, and Israel and many others have been punished in the past. God is the true authority, not any man on earth.We must turn to God and Repent and ask for forgiveness. Then we will start seeing a real change.

      phae.rayden - 2012-09-04 11:30

      ?? If this were true it would have been a fool proof method of success used by every country on earth. I think its safe to say after 2000 years of opportunities to create benefits from this type of fairytale thinking working out anywhere in the world, that it has only failed again and again, and it is long past being proved to be a waste of time and effort. No God or sweeties for good behaviour. You're worried about a dictator running SA, but you are more than happy to have one running the universe, strange people.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-04 15:23

      Chilli, if your God punish, why are you still here?. Give me the benevolent, all loving version I learned at my grandmothers knee. Your version sounds too vindictive for me.

  • JHLR73 - 2012-09-04 09:00

    South Africa was declared as a doomed country during apartheid, a system that must go for the better off all. And so it did. But 20 years later, South Africa seems to be headed for disaster again.Doomed as during the apartheid years, with other forces now helping assisting with our downfall. Will there ever be hope for this country? It seems not to be the case