News24

UJ at fault - applicants

2011-01-11 14:21

Cape Town - Families of matrics from the class of 2010 applying to the University of Johannesburg expressed anger on Tuesday at the university’s handling of the application process.

This comes as thousands of people waited in queues as long as four kilometres on Tuesday to apply to study at the university.

Violence also broke out on the campus on Monday as the institution received about 30 000 late applications, most of them on the Kingsway campus.

The university’s registrar, Professor Marie Muller attributed the increase in applications to a higher pass rate in Gauteng last year.

“Last year we had 20 000 applications, now we have 40 000,” she said.

Complaints

But News24 has received a number of complaints from users saying that they have family members who sent in their applications to the university before its October 31 closing date.

Mashadi Monaledi said her sisters, Khumo and Moitsheki, sent in their applications three weeks prior to the closing date.

When she did not hear from the university by December she decided to contact them only to be told that her sisters’ applications “were pending”.

On Monday, Monaledi said they went to the Kingsway campus at 06:00 only to be told that they’d spent an hour at the wrong campus.

“They then waited a full six hours in lines. My sisters were told that they had to wait in line with late applicants, but there was no explanation for this.

“They were then told that they had to fill in application forms again and return sometime this week,” Monaledi said in an e-mail to News24.

Contact numbers

Monaledi said it was possible that her sisters’ Grade 11 marks were too low but stressed that the least university officials could have done was to communicate with her.

Muller told News24 that would-be students with problems such as these can contact the university and their problems will be handled as quickly as possible.

But when News24 used the phone numbers provided on the website and given by spokesperson Herman Esterhuizen (011 559 4555; 0681 00 0085; 011 559 2911), the numbers were continuously engaged.

Applicants will be put on a waiting list and should know by the end of the month if they have been accepted to the university.

Comments
  • dvdb27 - 2011-01-11 14:32

    "But News24 has received a number of complaints from users saying that they have family members who sent in their applications to the university before its October 31 closing date." And these are the students who knew they were going to achieve results needed so as to study further in 2011. So, what they are actually telling Gauteng matric students is not to bother studying? Don't, we'll put you all through, with exemption - but your punishment will be to go stand in the sun in line with the thousands of others for a couple days (if you don't mind). At the same time we'll slap some more heavy taxes on your parents and the rest of the South African middle class so that we can pay for your final year at varsity! Chances, chances, chances...

      dvdb27 - 2011-01-11 14:44

      The UJ is not at fault... They can only cater for so many students. The sudden increase in the matric pass rate with University exemption was completely unexpected. Spokesperson for the UJ, Prof. Muller, has confirmed that thousands of students will have to be turned away as they will be unable to cater for their requirements. Those that enrolled last year BUT were not admitted will be given first preference. Those registering for the 1st time will have to hope and pray that they can secure s spot. I can already see it... But you said this, you said that, we demand!

      logical007 - 2011-01-15 14:08

      Hopefully if UJ turn them down the kids dont go and disrupt the students that did get in or burn UJ down?? Usual story WE DEMAND if we dont get we burn or disrupt !!

  • Inspiration - 2011-01-11 14:37

    UJ registrations have always been frustrating and chaotic for as long as I can remember. Any student will tell you those registration queues are a killer but this is just ridiculous. Maybe now UJ will attempt to get with the times and simplify their registration process.

      Max - 2011-01-11 15:51

      You are lying. I have been UJ student since 2005. The application and registration processes were good. Yes, this year I saw many applicants on the campus. Many students want to be a UJ student, you can not put the blame on university.

      Mark - 2011-01-12 06:10

      I've always found the registration to be very quick and easy. And especially now that they're implementing on line registration it will be much better. To give you an example of how easy it can be, last year my entire registration took me twenty minutes - that's the time from entering the registration building to leaving it to go home. It was extremely well done and very streamlined. That may only be Science faculty, though, I've never seen the others.

      Tshepo - 2011-01-17 15:20

      UJ registration has always been organised, I am scheduled to register on the 20th of this month but I have already registered today because of the online service which has been operational for some time now.

  • lakhan7 - 2011-01-11 15:13

    ...my sister was in UJ. She also spoke about discrimination etc. Some lecturers seem bais. ...so i am not suprised to read this article on their inability to move forward. "To much of an old reigme in their mentality - were race is favoured" KLAKHAN

      phillie - 2011-01-11 15:39

      O SHIIIIIET !! must you idiots always play the race card ????It is twenty years on. The apart-heid regime have have all since retired or died this balls up is orchestrated by your brother cadres all on their own.

      Bosbeer - 2011-01-11 15:57

      Eish Klakhan,.. lecturers are only bias when it comes to performance and actual delivery,.. She must have opted for UJ due to their academic standards..

      lakhan7 - 2011-01-12 13:36

      @phillie i was an apartheid baby. ...so my friend, i was brought up in apartheid. like it or not. i have the right to play the "phillie" card. idiot.

      lakhan7 - 2011-01-12 13:41

      @bosbeer she had a bursary to study there.

      lakhan7 - 2011-01-12 13:59

      @phillie and bosbeer : find a solution guys. Logically, its only human nature to favour a group.... I am sure we all do that? But the problem comes in when we favour them too much - and let a specify group of individuals know what's coming out in a UNIVERSITY paper - we all went to university, and we know how the system works... ( NB: all of my accusations are based on the events that occurred from 12jan2010 to 21december2010 on a UJ campus, with an engineering lecturer and a specify group of academics' ) I could get their degrees to become invalid - but that wont help these White South Africans progress. ...instead, I write about it and say " Be moral and ethical in all your actions for a better SA " KLAKHAN

      k1dbl4ck - 2011-01-12 15:01

      @lakhan. sheet.. as a minority, whites better favour each other for fear of being swomped by a majority with seemingly very low standards and/or complete selfishness towards their own, in just about every aspect of society. then throw into it this obsession with apartheid when you are the ones who should feel like knobs for being opressed by a minority in the first place. never mind just about everything in this country seems fair game because of "what the whites did", all the while forgetting the contributions of the Indians, Coloured, and other minorities, whom white people generally respect to a greater extent, is still getting the short end of the stick as you big mouthed, nylon haired clowns throw your unintelligent opinions around, destroying this country one toi-toi at a time.

  • Only Truth - 2011-01-11 15:27

    But the last time I checked we had TUT, VUT, NW University, Tukkies.....in GP, I'm running out of breath, but what I'm saying is: Why only UJ?

      Colourblind - 2011-01-11 16:24

      The possible reasons are in the article. I suggest you read it before posting.

      kgafelakg@24.com - 2011-01-12 15:21

      UJ is getting attention because it is next to the SABC studios and Media Park

  • Fighter2 - 2011-01-11 15:27

    I am not going to waste time at UJ. Lots of Private Colleges are still open for registration and they offer a better service and qualification. I am going to Rosebank College in Johannesburg College Campus, Boston Business college, PC Training

      Mark - 2011-01-12 06:14

      Better? Please explain exactly what you mean by that, since the British Computer Society seems to think that UJ's BSc IT Honours is among the best courses in the world, and all of the qualifications (as far as I know) are internationally recognised. I agree that private colleges are better for certain career paths, but I think the phrase 'they offer a better service and qualification' might be a little sweeping.

  • dvdb27 - 2011-01-11 15:28

    here we go - I was waiting for it...

  • Kirsty - 2011-01-11 15:37

    I have never heard so much nonsense! How is it that UJ can be at fault when thousands of students are all trying to apply at once?! Each course can only hold so many students per class, thus, the numbers are extremely limited. If there is no space, regardless of the fact that certain students now qualify for the course, the university cannot admit the students. They will have to apply for next year (following the correct deadlines) so that they can be admitted timeously. With regards to UJ being racist - absolute nonsense!! I completed my undergrad degree through UJ and never saw any kind of racism or bias. If a student doens't make the application criteria, they won't be admitted. Similarly, if there is no space left, they won't be admitted. Surely we have come far enough as a country not to have to always pull the race card?! Honestly now

  • Mashudu - 2011-01-11 15:45

    I hope they can see the impact of not transforming , the istitution merged more than 5yrs ago but still have campuses that are not divided.Why still have Kingsway housing its own faculties, and bunting road offering housing its own faculties etc.Have one campus especially the kingsway and bunting road housing different faculties. House either Economic and Management Science and Management in one campus for example , now you have all this faculties that offering degree and diploma programme in different campuses and the people moving from one campus to another etc

  • Fighter2 - 2011-01-11 16:01

    Nothing to do with race - just disorganised! and this is how it will saty for the rest of the year!!!

  • Colourblind - 2011-01-11 16:22

    If News24 isn't careful hellopeter is going to sue them. At least I now know where to take my complaints in future. I wonder how many cases legitimate cases like this are out there. I'm sure there are a few, but if we allow for a 0.5% margin of error due to clerical mistakes or whatever 40,000 applicants gives you around 200 such "mistakes". It's sad, but it happens and I feel sorry for her and her sisters. Publicising one such an instance to paint UJ in a bad light when they are obviously under immense pressure to deal with all these applicants is just as unfair.

  • SP1984 - 2011-01-11 16:47

    There is a very simple explanation behind the increase in the number of students registered for UJ. When a matric passmark drops from 50% to 30%, naturally there will be more people eligible for university. And an even simpler reason for why the healthcare is declining in this country is because Zuma would rather import 2000 Cuban doctors whilst giving away R1.1 BILLION of our hard-earned money instead of implementing the most logical and correct solution of using the money to make more places available to the South Africans who truly deserve to be doctors! The ANC may have a rich history of fighting for our freedom, but this is no longer a democracy, we are living in a capitalist society ruled by communists acting under the guise of socialism. Everyone has their opinions, these are mine, and I strongly believe politics accomplishes nothing, action solves everything. Screw BEE, Close the ANC and wake up to the reality that if we want something done, we can't ask a fat cat to do it.

  • Raphael - 2011-01-11 19:33

    UJ, and the state Universities in general, are under tremendous pressure and are doing the very best they can under difficult circumstances. There are, however, some truly outstanding smaller private universities, such as StAugustine College of South Africa,which still have a limited number of places to offer. Those interested in doing a B.Com, a B.A or a B.Th, and who are too late to get a place at UJ or elsewhere, can still apply to St Augustine - but should do so very fast! Learners and their parents are often not aware of these excellent, alternative, possibilities.

  • steve.dupreez - 2011-01-11 20:45

    Ja, hey!! Let's blame it on apartheid. We can'r blame it on anything else....let the white man suffer.......viva stupidity, viva ANC.

  • khane - 2011-01-12 08:14

    maybe UJ can ;learn from VUT

  • khane - 2011-01-12 08:21

    as for UJ remember these kids paid R280 + R650,00 for apps and res app. and this is the service they get after they were not even contacted by the so called call centre confirming the status or even sending an sms. they are terrible.we all know that these institutons were initially made only to be accessed by white kids. but tell me at my age 30, 1 sibling graduated last year last one was supposed to go to UJ would i have not encouraged her or even insisted in her applying in time. UJ leadership is white and bitter and they need to sort themselves out or move out- learn from the effeciency from an almost black institution VAAL- i studied there and am proud of how they have rather improved from rejecting black students in 1995 to effectively servicing the same black student in 2011. Yes they might not admit everyone but they have order.

  • Francois - 2011-01-12 13:03

    Let me just get this straight. Are we speaking about people who want to go to an university and they cannot plan beyond the day of tomorrow? I think that Angie has also let these learners downm by being more a servant of the ANC than to the people of SA who actually pay her and put her in that position by meanse of a deomcratic process. By lowering the standards for Matric, a lot of learners now suddenly (wrongly) realise that they can attempt university. Angie, you are at fault, stop celebrating the mess that you have caused and clean it up - starting with good standards and sorting out SADTU.

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