UJ cuts ties with Israeli university

2011-03-23 22:08

Johannesburg - The University of Johannesburg (UJ) has officially severed ties with Israel’s Ben-Gurion University (BGU), deputy vice chancellor Adam Habib said on Wednesday.

"It will happen as per protocol on April 1," Habib told Sapa.

"We had a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with them and that will now be severed."

Habib said the "financial implications" of the decision would not adversely impact the UJ.

"Decisions should not be determined by finances, but to be honest it will not adversely impact the university. We are a big institution with a big budget. Our finances will not be adversely impacted one way or other."

Scare mongering

Ben-Gurion University however had been working with UJ on finding a method to clean algae that has infested South Africa's drinking water.

The severing of ties meant the project was likely to come an end, leaving UJ without access to BGU's extensive water expertise.

"There has been quite a lot of scare mongering that if the partnership breaks, South Africa will be confined to bad water quality," Habib said.

"The quality of our water is suffering because we are not spending the type of money on cleaning water that we need to, and not employing skill sets required.

"We can deal with acid rain water in the region if we are prepared to spend money."

Impending disaster

Habib said individual professors from UJ would be allowed to keep up existing partnerships with BGU.

"That is something for individual academics to determine, but it depends on whether BGU allows this or not."

UJ's severing of ties with came amidst talk of steep water tariff increases and a warning South Africa could run out of water within the next ten years if nothing was done to supplement water resources.

The Environment and Conservation Association has said that by 2015, 80% of South Africa's fresh water would be so badly polluted that no purification process in the country would make it fit for consumption.

The impending disaster that would be created by acid mine drainage, as well as by sewerage and industrial pollution, had on many occasions been brought to the government's attention, with no positive results, the association said.

Domino effect

The UJ petition committee said in a statement the university's senate had found "significant" evidence that BGU had research and other engagements supporting Israel's military, in particular in its occupation of Gaza.

"UJ is the first institution to officially sever relations with an Israeli university - a landmark moment in the growing boycott, divestment and sanctions of Israel campaign," it said.

The committee said the decision, coming from a South African institution, was of particular significance as it could start "a domino boycott effect".

Efforts to end ties with BGU began with the UJ petition - a statement by UJ academics and students calling on their university to end its "apartheid-era relationship" with BGU.

The committee claimed more than 400 South African academics, including nine vice chancellors and deputy vice chancellors had joined the campaign.

"Palestinians, South Africans and the international academic and solidarity community rejoice at this decisive victory."


The SA Jewish Board of Deputies (SAJBD) slammed the announcement, saying that it was a blow to academic and scientific freedom

"UJ's senate's decision to allow the formal relationship between UJ and BGU to lapse is playing to narrow-minded political prejudice and is a severe setback for constructive intellectual engagement in South Africa," SAJBD national chairperson Zev Krengel said in a statement.

He called the decision unjust and unreasonable and said "academic boycotts are antithetical to the principles of academic and scientific freedom".

  • Werner - 2011-03-23 22:26

    "Habib" leaves very little to the imagination.

      Zanu - 2011-03-24 05:55

      "a landmark moment in the growing boycott" – nothing new here. Let’s see... no "Muslim" university has ties with Israel except for Universities and educational institutions in the Palestinian Authority territories. UJ, another "Muslim led (Habib and many chancellors & students)" institution has cut ties with this world renowned Israeli University... there is no surprise here... South Africa will lose immensely from these, and I am not talking about water... I am talking about credibility... from Harvard to Oxford, from the US to France... when a religion dictates the rules of engagement (like in most of Arab world) then credibility and especially education suffers. South Africa tagging along to the long drop to the 13th century… I must highlight this point… this will hurt both parties, but mostly us here in Jozi

      rammstein.f4n - 2011-03-24 07:37

      Ben Gurion University isn't losing anything, we're losing out. I'm sorry, but I cannot respect a university which makes its decisions based on politics or religion. Then again, I've also had reservations about the standards of UJ.

      kolobe - 2011-03-24 08:12

      you people are hypocrites.south africa has blood on its hands because it sold gadaffi weapons yet again it is clean for dealing with apartheid state of israel universities. its not a surprise as you have practiced apartheid youselves

      Charles Kane - 2011-03-24 08:13

      @ Zanu "... when a religion dictates the rules of engagement...then credibility... suffers" You mean kind of like when the Zionists claim all of Israel as Jewish property on the authority of God and expelled the people had been living there during their 2000 year absence?

      C S - 2011-03-24 08:39

      I was very proud to have been associated with the old RAU ... did 3 degrees there and it was held in high esteme for its excellent academic standard. I still live in the area and have many lecturer friends and it is SHOCKING and SAD to see how the standards have dropped .... its not much more than a glorified high school now. This happens because of the leaders like Habib and Rensburg (one of the proponents of the failed OBE). You should be ashamed of yourself to allow Habib to enforce his Muslim hatred for all other religions in this way. There wer GOOD reasons why Habib was not allowed to travel to the USA ... sad loss for UJ

      Fikile - 2011-03-24 08:45

      University Johannesburg we "the quiet majority" are very proud of you guys for doing the RIGHT thing in very difficult circumstances, you only need to read the comments of some people to understand what elements you are up against. I know there must be many of jews working at UJ that makes us even more proud to be South African (world leaders in re-conciliation), and all the more reason to take a stance against apartheid now called zionism.

      mba - 2011-03-24 09:01

      @ Kolobe, who’s the hypocrite? The SA government stated yesterday that they do not interfere in a sovereign state’s internal affairs when justifying why SA has not taken steps against Gaddafi. Come to think of it, the SA government seems to use this excuse when it comes to all pariahs like Mugabe, Cuba and all the other wonderful examples of countries it supports that have horrendous human rights abuses, while chanting human rights at home. That is hypocritical you troll.

      za101 - 2011-03-24 11:19

      In the months to come, many universities will foolow UJ lead. At the beginning, people condemmed those who wanted to break ties with Apartheid South Africa. They humiliated them back then. They frightened them by saying that breaking ties with Apartheid South Africa would be a crime. they mocked those who wanted sanctions agaisnt South Africa. UJ has taken a brave step. Universities in Israel are used by the millitary to suppress Arabs. Israel discrimiantes agaisnt Arabs Arabs in the West Bank have to apply to Isreals Army, if they want to go to another village or town. PASSBOOK. Israel has bombed schools and universities in Gaza.

      dwpathome - 2011-03-24 11:32

      @Kolobe Did you know Israel is one of the few nations in the world that give equal rights to all of its citizens, including blacks. Israel has opened its doors to large groups, (numbering tens of thousands), of Ethiopians wishing to immigrate to Israel. With full citizenship and help with accommodation etc. on arrival. Their is no "apartheid" in Israel. These "Blacks" are welcomed and included into society. The UN resolution 3374 that equated Zionism with racism was repealed by a vote of 111 to 25 one of few if not only resolution that have been repealed. It is the Arabs that want their own state of Palestinian and demand that all Jews be driven into the sea. Who has the apartheid agenda

      Zanu - 2011-03-24 11:34

      My Post has been removed… so here goes again… Kolobe, your are gullible to believe the Hamas’s propaganda calling Israel an apartheid sate. As long as the list below reign true… there is no Apartheid in Israel in any shape or form. IN ISRAEL, all civilians Muslims, Jews & Christians alike, A. Have equal rights. B. If you are gay you are a protected minority. C. freedom of speech D. Freedom of protests. E. Free press. F. Freedom of religion. G. Woman have equal rights and can vote, work and study. H. DEMOCRACY - All citizens vote! FACT I. No racist distinction between shiite sunni or druze J. A justice system that is above even the prime minister K. Both Arab and Jewish representatives in their Knesset parliament.... L. any Muslim, Jew or Christian can live anywhere they want in Israel Etc. Etc. Etc. Name 1 country in the middle east that treats its inhabitants that way. Visit Israel and see for yourself why the Israeli Arabs are so grateful to be Israeli citizens. If you talk about the Palestinians… that is war, over the border. And as long as Hamas views terror as an only mean to progress the Palestinians’ will continue to suffer, under their leadership.

      trevb - 2011-03-24 11:40

      @ramstein how can you respect a non political organisation making decisions based in politics . if only schools and universities focused on EDUCATING instead of politics and the best way to embezzle money , the effects will have longs standing effects. keep politcs to the politicians , and leave the educaters to educate !!!!!!

  • dplessis - 2011-03-23 22:26

    Well finally Gen Guerion university got rid of this pathetic african school that does not appreciate intellect critical thinking, criticism, freedom of speech, freedom of thougt, academic freedom, but will instead wallow in the depths of its mediocrity. Oh yes that is what we like after all - mediocrity as excellence is so so nasty! Wonder where this university will be without the knowledge they had previously sapped out of Israeli institutions?

      ricky.sandler - 2011-03-23 22:51

      End of earth...maybe you are the one in a cocoon. Israel does what it needs to protect its people. But this is a whole seperate issue and speaks directly to education and not politics. Take your politcs and shove it

      ricky.sandler - 2011-03-23 23:02

      End of earth, your ignorance serves to only embarace you

      Alibaba - 2011-03-24 01:27

      @nameless - you're sinking your own racist argument with that statement because that is exactly what is happening to Afrikaners in NSA and they must "just suck it up", but now that it suits you all of a sudden the Palestinians are justified in their indignation.

      Carl Muller - 2011-03-24 08:40

      Last week an Israeli family was murdered, father, mother, 11 year old son and a baby. By the Palestinians.

      Thangy - 2011-03-24 10:36

      @Carl Muller i guess you have evidence to back this up!

      henry1234 - 2011-03-24 11:56

  • ErG - 2011-03-23 22:45

    And how will this punish Ben Gurion? Oh, I forgot, they were in a partnership with a world-class university......, so certainly their research, funding and international standing will go down the tube! I suppose next will be boycotting any relationships with Harvard, Yale etc, because of their Jewish connections. Soon UJ will revert back to the abacus and writing on parchment. Talking of screwed up!

  • Lump of coal - 2011-03-23 22:55

    One thing I noticed when I toured the Israel area ..... the Israeli water "she was so clean you could drink it" BUT in all the ARAB countries the water "she was brown and smelly" ..... so whose looking forward to Gippo Guts in the future !!!!!

      ErG - 2011-03-23 23:05

      But that's the standard ("brown and smelly")we are looking for - it makes academic, engineering, management and financial sense! You are only entitled to what you can afford - nothing more, nothing less!

      ?? - 2011-03-23 23:09

      @ErG, Nothing special about that university,as UJ can create ties and share knowledge with German universities.

      Arno Young - 2011-03-23 23:21

      To the unknown gentleman '-' who said 'Most Israeli water is imported from Turkey': Turkish water is expected to fulfill only about three percent of Israel’s needs during the 20-year period. This was a groundbreaking agreement with Turkey in August 6, 2005. I hereby assume the rest of your statements to have the same merit.

      Goddok - 2011-03-24 00:14

      Since when has the Jordan river been imported ?? As far as I know most of their water comes from this river.

      Zanu - 2011-03-24 06:13

      No name brand, I mean Patrick Willis Soddof (his anti-Israel hate talk is signature to his name) Germany will have nothing to do with South Africa as it moves closer to radical Islam... Angela Merkel has already made that clear just last month. But more importantly, your Anti-Semitic rants and Holocausts references would get you into more of a mess in Germany then anywhere else in the western world.

      ?? - 2011-03-24 06:30

      @ZANU, This is South Africa and not Germany,secondly,Merkel is on her way out anyway,she wont be the chancellor after the next election.

      Zanu - 2011-03-24 07:19

      no name... maybe you are right, maybe Merkel would not win, unfortunately though, it seems a far left part will win the next election... and that’s far worse than Merkel’s policy on the topic of culture.

  • za101 - 2011-03-23 23:25

    israel expelled hundred of thousands of arabs when it was created. israel has destroyed wells and farms belonging to palestinians now israel has passed a law, that makes it illegal for people in israel to challenge it on whether it did expel arabs

      LastTruth - 2011-03-23 23:37

      Which Palestinian Propaganda Tabloid did you read this in? Because it's really baseless trash.

      za101 - 2011-03-23 23:41

      Communities or groups that hold events mourning the creation of the nation could be fined under a measure passed by Israel's Knesset.

      za101 - 2011-03-23 23:42

      The Knesset late Tuesday also passed the Admissions Committee Law allowing Negev and Galilee Jewish communities with fewer than 400 families to vet possible residents with an admission committee. Potential residents could be rejected if they do not fit into the community's social or cultural way of life. Israeli rights groups called the laws discriminatory and an attack against Israeli Arabs.

      thinker - 2011-03-24 00:22

      Did the arabs leave quitely, if so why???

  • Lydon - 2011-03-23 23:28

    Well this just proves than UJ are idiots.

      thinker - 2011-03-24 00:18

      Yep, double standarts UJ cut ties, yet individuals can retain contact. Does not make a lot of sence to me

  • youcantrunyoucanthide - 2011-03-23 23:37

    UJ has truly become a kak institution. No surprises here, though. The Jewish community in SA needs to get off the fence or they will be sidelined even more by the government and its institutions (yes, I do see UJ as a government institution).

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  • Gardener - 2011-03-23 23:46

    That is the UJ's loss!!! I don't think it will hurt BGU at all!!

      za101 - 2011-03-24 10:33

      BGU will lose, becuase this will start a domino effect as universites in many parts of the world , would follow UJ

  • Matt - 2011-03-23 23:56

    Whoever goes against Israel goes against God almighty! If you hate Israel you hate God. Be very careful what you say or think about God's chosen people.

      Matt - 2011-03-23 23:57

      Just to clear things up and avoid confusion - God = Jesus. The only living God.

      wcslater - 2011-03-24 01:03

      remember, they WERE God's chosen people...not so much any more hey.

      ?? - 2011-03-24 01:10

      @wcslater, Well said,but even more importantly,these former chosen people of God are not one and the same whom the majority of todays Jews teach us they are.

      A.T. - 2011-03-24 07:30

      @Matt Did you read what Jesus said in the Gospels about some of the Jews, are you now saying then that Jesus is against God? Please think what you are saying. God had his chosen race in the Old Testament, Christians are now part of the Chosen race, in fact Jesus says if you deny Jesus, you deny God. The Jewish state and nation deny Jesus, what do you do with that. In future be more worried about attacks against Christians,than against a State which hates Jesus.

      Waleed Toefy - 2011-03-24 10:15

      WELL mATT.... IF YOU say Jesus=GOD... then according to history books GOD was a Palestinian (go look it up)... but then again... it doesnt look like you know anything about History... or even Jesus for that matter... because if Jesus was GOD, then who was Jesus worshipping when he prayed by putting his forehead to the ground (as stated in the the Bible?)... GOD worshipping GOD???... ... if you use only abit of common sense here then you would know Jesus was not GOD, but a slave and servant of GOD

      Marc - 2011-03-24 12:03

      @ Waleed Toefy: ever heard of the Holy Trinity - God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit? It's in the Christian Bible - read it before you further disclose your ignorance for all to see!

  • Goddok - 2011-03-24 00:08

    By reacting so emotionally UJ will never be a university of repute and of high academic standing. It sounds to me that we are dealing with some idiots who are making fools of themselves.

  • thinker - 2011-03-24 00:14

    How about the ANCYL call for an end to the "apartheid-era relationship" with the US and UK while we at it. LOL Juliaaaasss you slip up

  • wcslater - 2011-03-24 01:05

    A lot of hypocrites in the house tonight I see. I say big ups UJ.

      V. Zela - 2011-03-24 07:32

      You seem to be the king hypocrite. Was this a democratic decision?

      clifford.pike1 - 2011-03-24 09:04

      Hypocrisy is the only common denominator on this comment page, Mr. Slater. I suggest a little introspection.

  • Alibaba - 2011-03-24 01:43

    QS World Uni Rankings: Ben Gurion - 337, UJ not on list. Easy to figure out who loses - oh but they will partner with some "friends" from China and Cuba - problem solved!!! Re politics - there are always two sides to each story. Universities should not make these decisions based on politics but on academicals excellence, but who cares about that in NSA.

      werner.coetzer - 2011-03-24 08:21

      According to webometrics, 2179th in the world...LOSERS

  • aquinas - 2011-03-24 02:24

    Talk about cutting your nose.....

  • GeorgeN1 - 2011-03-24 04:23

    Long live BGU !!!! Damn UJ. Habib is not that smart in any case...looks like a parking meter if he wears a red tie :) Ha Ha Ha

      za101 - 2011-03-24 10:36

      Habib is true humanitarian

      aaron - 2011-03-24 12:08

      VIVA Habib, Pansi the racist zionists colonolists

  • Lourens Erasmus - 2011-03-24 04:33

    To all the geniuses on this site. RSA have always supported Israel and vice versa. Then came 1994 and we broke all ties - political ties. Is the current government too small minded to see that collaboration, that can be beneficial to all the "peoples", is a good thing? Yes, they are. During apartheid years we fought for no involvement in sport and other facets of life. Now all that matters is politics. So let the peoples drink politics. I believe education will bring a stop to tunnel-vision - don't know however if the "Africa" will ever be overcome

      za101 - 2011-03-24 10:41

      Israel is building settlements on arab land when settlers come and invade arab towns in west bank, arabs have to close down their streets, shop s and what about the checkpoints and the 1000s of arabs kicked out. if a studnet at an israeli univeristy says that israel was created with the expulsion of arabs, they will be disciplined by the university

  • Braam filmalter - 2011-03-24 05:25

    Cut your nose to spite your face!! poor South African universities

  • Saamprater - 2011-03-24 06:17

    The Arabs have spoken.

  • CygnusX1 - 2011-03-24 06:26

    Habib stop hiding behind smoke and mirrors! Just clarify your religious persuasion for us again and at the same time furnish details as too why you where on a terrorist watchlist in the USA and subsequently barred from entering the USA a few years ago. You fool no-one!

      wmutahi - 2011-03-24 14:31

      Typical south african thinking. Never taking responsibility. Just because Habib might be muslim or whatever his religion might be does not justify the injustices by the Israelis. His being barred from the US, true or not does not matter, US is just a country among many in this earth.

  • CTS - 2011-03-24 06:34

    This is just another spiral downwards from the intellectual excellence that existed in our country pre-1994. A matter of cut your nose to spite your face and a lowering of SA's standards. Do they think Israel will loose out because of this? Absolutely not - we will - these are the best scientists in the world! Oh my, UJ had been taken over by IDIOTS!

  • Shahied - 2011-03-24 06:56

    Thank have the support of the masses !!

      CygnusX1 - 2011-03-24 07:09

      Which "masses"? You are in the minority here.

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 08:18

      Thankfully I'm not one of the "masses"

      clifford.pike1 - 2011-03-24 09:16

      That's not saying much!

      Francois B - 2011-03-24 12:07

      You are right. The uneducated masses indeed. They just don't have a clue about anything. Rather they focus on educating the uneducated masses than poking their noses in politics.

  • Johann M - 2011-03-24 07:09

    Please tell me why everyone seems to be so in love with Israel.

      ?? - 2011-03-24 07:24

      I dont know why,im not in love with Israel,im only in love with peace and justice and news24 seems to be on a crusade of deleting my statements even though i dont swear,dont preach hate speech,dont insult anyone. People need to understand that israel is the biggest risk to peace in the middle east,because it refuses weapons inspectors to enter israel and this might spark an arms race in the region,and yet at the same time,they want inspectors to enter Iran. What makes Israel so special? Oh,i forgot,it has the undying backing of the worlds sole super power.

      Johann M - 2011-03-24 07:46

      I'm certainly also not in love with them, but most people seem to be indoctrinated by them. ... and the US's undying backing of Israel.

      gizzy - 2011-03-24 07:47

      Not in love with Israel. Yes, their settlements are a disgrace but it is a picnic compared to what the palestinians do to themselves and each other. Where else would parents send their own flesh and blood off to murder themselves and innocent people? Palestine isn't even one country. It's devided into two i.e. westbank and gazza. No good demonising Israel while at the same time turning a blind eye to the despots in Palestine.

      Snys - 2011-03-24 08:09

      Got more brains and guts than the Arabs!

      Marius - 2011-03-24 08:55

      I'm not in love with Israel but I defenitely hate terrorists who kill innocent people. If I had to choose between the two I would go for Israel. Before you judge Israel go and spend some time there (ignore the Palestinian propoganda) and see for yourself - I did.

      clifford.pike1 - 2011-03-24 09:27

      Israel is a complex, mixed nation, living on a tiny speck of land smaller than the Kruger National Park, surrounded by hostile neighbours, in a world that has, throughout history, persecuted them close to the point of extinction. You tell me how they are supposed to exist in peace?

  • JMM - 2011-03-24 07:27

    No surprise whatsoever but once again South Africa loses out to narrow secular interest. It is astonishing how the wellbeing of our country is being hijacked by interest groups who are only interested in furthering their own focused and bigoted agenda - bugger the rest. Unfortunately they do not understand that they are drilling holes into the bottom of the boat that they are travelling in. How stupid and short sighted can one be!

  • MrsM - 2011-03-24 07:28

    What a loss to South Africa! Those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed. Blessed be the Jews, God's chosen people forever!! South Africa might forsake them, but Adonai never will!!! To everyone who is "protecting" the Palistinians: there is no nation like Palestine, they are a bunch of people that came from Arab countries where they lived in utmost poverty to Israel and now they lay claim to the land. (much like the Mozambicans, Zimbabweans etc claiming land in SA.) God gave Israel to the Jews forever!!!!

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 08:20

      Oh please. Really, this has nothing to so with the Jews being "blessed". It simply has to do with the level of higher education which we have lost out on. Please, go preach your nonsense elsewhere.

      jonathanzg - 2011-03-24 09:07

      Thanks MrsM, Jews need more people like you. In times of darkness there is always a light that shines and you are one of them. God bless you!

  • Gustav - 2011-03-24 07:32

    Cutting of your nose to spite your face....

      Gustav - 2011-03-24 12:03

      za101. I am not worried about nose or pride, but at the end of the day it will be our youth that will pay the price for UJ's decision. I do not condone Israeli violence as I do not condone Palestinian violence. Tell me, how do you fix 2000 years of hatred????

  • MikeRL - 2011-03-24 07:37

    Politics should stay out of this, we should partner with these kind of institutions. helping us preserve our water and they get given the boot....I don't get it. It doesn't matter if you like or dis-like the Jews, they have a will continue contributing to the global economy in all sectors...thats been proven..... And I'm German!!!

      za101 - 2011-03-24 10:51

      so if this was 1930s germny or 1980s south africa...........the world should ignore the crimes of the countries and go on as though nothing is wrong

      aaron - 2011-03-24 12:13

      not if they are racist and child killers

  • wmutahi - 2011-03-24 07:54

    Great stuff UJ. Not so long ago south africa was in a similar situation as the palestinians. Let's never forget that.

  • misterv - 2011-03-24 07:55

    When are we going to get Fridays off to go to the Mosque?

  • Comrade Mike - 2011-03-24 08:03

    Habib one morning,"Look! There's my foot, I think I'll shoot it!"

      aaron - 2011-03-24 12:15

      you should aim for your head, but maybe not the bullet will bounce back

  • Clive - 2011-03-24 08:09

    The losers will be UJ, and SA and its already steadily declining water quality. Arch Tutu, a man I have admired for many years, will no doubt be pleased. The hypocrisy in cutting ties with a centre of learning in the only democracy in the region is astounding. Anyway, the chickens are certainly coming home to roost in the motley assortment of totalitarian states that surround, and pledge the destruction of, Israel.

  • antong - 2011-03-24 08:14

    Can someone remind me where in the world is Palestine?

      aaron - 2011-03-24 12:15

      stolen by Isreal. Isreal was once palestine.

  • michaelp1 - 2011-03-24 08:21

    ....but we supply arms to Libya. That's okay. This can't be double standards - because we have no standards in the first place. The ANC has stripped us of all standards and morals. I contend that the overall morality of our beloved country is lower now than when apartheid was at it's zenith.

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 08:59

      Agree with you 100%

      wmutahi - 2011-03-24 14:24

      There's nothing worse than being denied your dignity as a human being. I don't agree with some policies and deeds of the ANC but nothing is as inhumane as apartheid.

  • Tiwonge - 2011-03-24 08:22

    This is a case of who needs the other more. Face the facts: UJ entry score: 55% (with massaged matric results), Ben Gurion (75%). Let's not fool each other as South Africans, our education systems is deteriorating at a speed so alarming that it scares. This world class university does not lose anything from this pathetic euphemism of a university

      rammstein.f4n - 2011-03-24 12:34

      Yes za101, I've read your propaganda replies and it's clear to see you studied at UJ, with the "best lectureres [sic]". UJ is a reformed - but unfortunately failed - version of the old RAU.

  • simon - 2011-03-24 08:24

    Interesting to learn that Habib thinks the water problem can be solved simply by spending money on the acid drainage issue. Therefore, according to him, the joint research project was unnecessary. Why was it done in the first place ? Does Habib know more than these scientists put together ? Why has UJ, under Habib, not made it openly public that we face a simple problem that the government is reluctant or unable to fund. ? All round, UJ emerges from this fiasco as a second-rate, low-end facikity, hardly worthy of the title 'university' .

  • di - 2011-03-24 08:32

    Personally I think that Ben Gurion University is relieved. Be warned UJ - God is not mocked. The Jews are still His chosen nation and the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob still considers them to be the apple of His eye.

      Johann M - 2011-03-24 08:34

      Are you serious?

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 08:42

      What a pointless, nonsensical comment. What has religion got to do with the universities?????

      Charles Kane - 2011-03-24 09:21

      @di --- bla bla bla ... if the God of the Jews wasn't mocked so easily, I'm guessing Germany wouldn't be quite as prosperous as it is today. If the God of the Muslims didn't take kindly to a mocking, perhaps the Middle East wouldn't be quite such a mess today. And isn't it interesting that there is a direct correlation between the growth in progress, peace, prosperity and wealth of "Christian" countries and the decline in religiosity over that past century.

      wmutahi - 2011-03-24 14:27

      So there is favouritism with God now?, what a load of crap, "chosen ones". Please stop with those biblical lies.

  • di - 2011-03-24 08:37

    Patrick don't know who you are but are showing some serious ignorance my friend. Suggest you actually find out what's going on in Israel instead of showing your bias by accepting main stream media's version!

      Johann M - 2011-03-24 09:02


  • Carl Muller - 2011-03-24 08:37

    UJ has done nothing yet, look at our our rivers and dam. You cannot even eat any fish caught in them any more. What does he say about the family that was killed last week. Or is he just one sided?

      za101 - 2011-03-24 10:56

      what about the children in gaza that was killed

  • Student - 2011-03-24 08:38

    This is a sad day. Question Prof Habib? Are UJ going to send back all the students from Zimbabwe the DRC and other African countries that also have committed and are still committing human right abuses? It is truly sad day, in that UJ practice selective politics for the personal gain of one or two people

      za101 - 2011-03-24 10:57

      Israel has passed a law, that will make it illegal for anybody to condemn the governements treatment of arabs BGU has to comply or it will be sanctioned. thats why habib and them had to pass this law

  • Mac - 2011-03-24 08:38

    Typical, lack of insight, cut off your nose to spite your face, the level of intelligence at this university has convinced me it should be free - the academics here don't deserve renumeration

      za101 - 2011-03-24 10:57

      its not about pride. its about human rights

  • Fikile - 2011-03-24 08:42

    University Johannesburg we "the quiet majority" are very proud of you guys for doing the RIGHT thing in very difficult circumstances, you only need to read the comments of some people to understand what elements you are up against. I know there must be many of jews working at UJ that makes us even more proud to be South African (world leaders in re-conciliation), and all the more reason to take a stance against apartheid now called zionism.

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 09:17

      Oh yes, very proud. Now we can proudly say that the level of university education has dropped yet again.

      ebdg3000 - 2011-03-24 09:22

      Quiet majority?

      Francois B - 2011-03-24 11:33

      za101 - The students motto was "liberation before education", so it is clear that those students did not want to edcucate themselves. We still feel the pains from that mindset today.

      simon - 2011-03-24 12:38

      Proud of what, fikile ? The electricity mess ? the hospitals mess ? The education mess ? The corruption mess ? BGU graduates will continue to be welcome all over the world. I pity the UJ graduates - they will have difficulty with overseas recognition, as must be expected for a third-rate "university".

  • esra - 2011-03-24 08:48

    Well done UJ. Imagine if the Afrikaaner said here, this is our promised land. Like there were sanctions in SA, it starts one by one and grows in time to ultimately dismantle an apartheid regime. Please visit for your daily world news and also No, these are not pro-christian or pro-muslim sites. Just the plain truth. I'd rather be an anti-s(cum) than pro-s(cum).

      Johann M - 2011-03-24 09:07

      I'm glad to see that there are people who don't go through life with their eyes closed.

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 09:26

      Iran vs Israel: What The Media Wants You To Forget The corporate media have been given their orders to throw the focus back on to Iran. Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget. 1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused. 2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused. 3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused. 4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed. 5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities. 6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat. 7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons. 8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona. 9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble. 10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact. 11. Recently revealed documents prove not only that Israel has nuclear weapos, but actually tried to sell some to Apartheid South Africa. Who else Israel approached to sell nuclear weapons remains an unasked question. 12. In 1965, Israel stole over 200-600 pounds of weapons-grade uranium from the United States. 13. Declassified documents from the former South African regime prove not only that Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, but has tried to sell them to other countries! We all need to be Joe Wilson right now. We need to stand up and scream, "LIAR!" at every politician and every talking media moron that is pushing this war in Iran. And we need to keep dong it until they get the message that we will not be deceived any more. Israel wants to send your kids off to die in Iran, and YOU are the only one that can stop them. Please forward this comment to your social networks.

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 09:28

      The above is from the site you suggested - whatreallyhappened. You're absolutely right; it's not pro christian or pro-muslim...just anit-israeli

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 12:32

      @za101 - thank you, I am well aware of that. If you read the post from Esra, she referred to the "whatreallyhappened" site as a site where one may go to for facts and a site which is not pro-christian or pro-muslim. I am referring to the content on the site and the fact that the content is most definitely Anti-Israeli. As much info that will be pulled up when I research Israel's discrimination of Arab's, I'm guaranteed to get just as much information by researching the Arab's discrimination of Israeli's.

  • Rochelle - 2011-03-24 09:04

    Failure to realise that sanctions against a nation that has been so horribly victimised during its entire history with none of the so-called caring world interventions is very short-sighted. The whole Gaza-strip debaucle is the equivalent of the AWB asking for a state of their own within SA. If intelligent South Africans can understand that the government's refusal for such a state is based on greater intergration of its people and a more tolerant people in the future, then surely those same intelligent South Africans can understand the Isreali government's stance. The human race in general has always reacted adversely to change, anything that they dont want to do or people that they dont want to accept is something to fight or moan about. Surely the governments of both countries have realised that by allowing the minority to dictate to the majority is the equivalent of apartheid and WE WILL NOT GO DOWN THAT ROAD AGAIN. I see a lot of anti-isreal commentors here dont realise just how hypocritical they are- you want to see SA prosper and not be oppressed again but you can very readily oppress another nation that is being persecuted from all sides, and you justify it as sanctions. If Isreal was a person and all this happened to that person,can you honestly NOT understand how they would do everything and anything in their power to protect themselves???? All these anti-Isreal protestors are clearly not using logic, common sense or their humanity in their playground-bully game

      Johann M - 2011-03-24 09:29

      Dear Rochelle. You seriously do not have a clue. To compare Palestine's cause with the AWB asking for their own state is idiotic. The ANC and the people they represent did not invade the AWB's country with the assistance of the British. Israel came about in 1948 by the murdering of innocent palestinians. These people were driven out of their country in which they have lived for hundreds if not thousands of years. I.e. the current situation in Israel is akin to Apartheid - the original aggressors have control over the people they drove out. Please come to your senses!

      Charles Kane - 2011-03-24 09:50

      People om both side of the argument find it difficult to take a nuanced view of this difficult situation. The fact is the whole situation is wrong. Anti-Semitism is evil. Suicide bombs are never justified. I support Israel's right to exist. The will of the whites in 1990 referendum is what allowed change to occur in SA. Israel has all the power to change things but lacks the will to do so. I oppose their brutal oppression of the Palestinian people, their cynical reliance on holocaust sympathy (like so many abuses in SA are justified in the light of apartheid), the fact that they use the Chosen People of God argument and the fact they continue to expand Israeli settlements on occupied territories. They have a LOT in common with the apartheid regime in SA and your arguments in their favour do too.

      slojam - 2011-03-24 09:54

      Protect themselves from WHAT? From people that are trying to protect themselves, children and belongings from the epitomy of all oppressors? How would you react if you are harrassed each and everyday? How would you react if you never knew if your child may never come back home alive from schools beacause some Zionist Jewish soldier thinks he is a terrorist because he has a schoolbag strapped to his back? How would you react if your 1 year old is shot in the head because a Zionist Jew thinks she is a terrorist? How would you react if all food, water, sanitation and health care services are denied for you and your children? The Zionist Jews within the ILLEGAL state of Isreal are the greatest oppressors and that has earned the anti-jewish, anti-semetic and anti-isreal labels. If they stop oppressing the Palestinians and allow them to live in THEIR land freely then only will there be peace for the biggest hypocrate is he who is oppressed and does not fight back! All the Pro-Isreali supporters, say what you want but silently ask yourselves if you would be oppressed by those cowards, how would you react? Maybe some of you still living in the Apartheid era will disagree, but who cares... your say doesnt matter in this FREE OPRESSION FREE SOUTH AFRICA. Clean water or not!

      Erna - 2011-03-24 10:46

      Actually, you have it all wrong. It is not the equivalent of the AWB asking for a state of their own within SA. The entire Israel is occupied territory, it's called Palestine, and belongs to the Palestinians. Also, it seems you are uninformed as to who the aggressors are, something that can be easily remedied by a little education. Do you even follow the news?

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  • Dan Steel - 2011-03-24 09:11

    Pathetic decision by a pathetic university driven by a pathetic doctrine based on an inferiority complex. The Muslims have repeatedly stated it is their aim to wipe the state of Israel off the face of the earth - and then they are the good guys and Israel the villain? I would like the supporters of this mindset to tell us how many Muslim states have democratically elected governments?

  • gcr - 2011-03-24 09:17

    Surely this is a case of political and religious expediency over shadowing good common educational bi - lateralism. Habib and his ilk are being dictated to by Blade and the government and yet the principles they apply in this case are not the same they apply in other hot beds of Africa - sad but these people are very one eyed

  • henry1234 - 2011-03-24 09:25

    How stupid can UJ's ADAM HABIB be!!!!!South Africa will suffer for this not him!Blacks,whites,muslims,Indians,Coloureds....all of us!We have a water crisis the Israelis were helping us solve this problem and this habib clearly a muslim cut ties!I think we should all go bang on his door when we can't drink our water and people start getting really sick from it!!!Pray hard in church this Sunday for us Christians will suffer for this!

      za101 - 2011-03-24 11:08

      israel does not have a water crisis, bceasue israel happily takes water from occupied territories

      Patch24b - 2011-03-24 11:20

      za101,For your information Israel Supplies all water and electricity to the Palestinians and Gaza. Non of the So called Muslim brothers offer anything. Also all the water that Israel does use come from the Galilee. People like you should be muzzled because you have no idea what you are talking about

  • ebdg3000 - 2011-03-24 09:25

    Wikipedia: "Barred entry to the United States. In October 2006 Habib was apprehended and deported when he flew into John F. Kennedy Airport, in New York City.[5][6] Habib had studied in New York when he was in graduate school. He had made numerous trips to New York in the past. This trip was one with colleagues from South Africa's Human Sciences Research Council.[5] His itinerary had included visiting the National Institute of Health, the Centres for Disease Control and the World Bank. In November 2006 Habib and his wife learned that she and their two children, aged 8 and 11, would also be barred entry to the USA.[7] In November 2007, according to the New York Times, the US informed Habib he had been barred entry over allegations of: "...engaging in terrorist activities."[8] The Christian Science Monitor reported that he had been barred due to having: "...links to terrorism".[3] The American Civil Liberties Union tried to aid Habib in learning the reasons he was barred.[3][8] Upon the release of the justification the ACLU shifted its effort to get the evidence supporting the allegation, if any, released. On January 20, 2010, after more than three years of waiting, the American State Department has decided, in a document signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, to lift the ban that prohibited Professor Habib (as well as Professor Tariq Ramadan from Switzerland) from entering the United States.[9] Makes you think, doesn't it - South Africa, home to the World pariahs

      John Gillow - 2011-03-24 09:57

      @edg3000,it makes me think how dumb you are?The christian monitor? are you serious?the same people that how heartedly supports Israel including stealing arab land!!!wow...i can see how they will put him on there list especially if he support the palestinian course.She did it because there is no evidence ...use your brains.You call yourself intelligent,that can be debated!!!

      Waleed Toefy - 2011-03-24 10:44

      well if you think some more you will know that Mandela was listed as a TERRORIST by the US aswell and only taken off that list RECENTLY... but then again, you probably dont think...

      za101 - 2011-03-24 11:08

      mandela was called terrotist too

  • truthseeker - 2011-03-24 09:26

    i have to say that all the views in this article is sooo predictable. you guys are all hippocrates. if helen zille was part of the group campaining for severing ties kolobe & his kind would have been against and all the nay sayers would have been for. the truth is that i would not do business with someone i knew to be discriminating against another person on the basis of race or religion. thats the bottom line. israel is discriminating against arabs based on race & religion. not very different from appartheid or bee. stop politicising evrything and look at right & wrong. i would give the same treatment to palestinians universities.

      Moi1980 - 2011-03-24 09:36

      Then the same view should be applied to all aspects of business and politics....where would that leave us???

      gizzy - 2011-03-24 09:49

      truthseeker???? more like truthdenier!!! Eish!

      Dan Steel - 2011-03-24 13:23

      Your name is clearly a serious misnomer. Please do not project your warped value system on the rest of us - we do not follow or deify people like you clearly do. I will judge Zille, and all other people, on their actions and values, not on their skin colour, race or gender. Too many Muslim and African politicians show clearly that they have only one or two values they will stick to - like race solidarity and anti-Westernism. And too many of their followers have the "follow the strong man" syndrome.

  • AquaticApe - 2011-03-24 09:31

    This is what you'll see in Israel: Jews & Arabs shopping together; Jews and Arabs swimming together in the Dead Sea; Walid Badir - captain of the Hapoel Tel Aviv soccer team is an Arab; Black Ethiopians brought into Israel not in chains but as full citizens; Mira Awad who represented Israel at the 2009 Eurovision song festival is an Arab; Rana Raslan, former Miss Israel, is an Arab; Majalli Wahabi, acting President of Israel in February 2007 is a Druze; Reda Mansour, Israeli ambassador to Ecuador is a Druze; Salim Joubran, Israeli Supreme Court justice is an Arab; every year thousands of black Africans risk their lives to go to Israel travelling through Muslim countries to get there, obviously nobody told them that Israel is an 'Apartheid State'! But, the Palestinian Authority says that any Arab that sell land to a Jew should be put to death and Mahmoud Abbas speaking to the Egyptian media July 28 2010 said "I will never allow a single Israeli to lifve amongst us on Palestinian land" - now THAT IS Apartheid.

      Clive - 2011-03-24 09:49

      Well said. And let's not forget the thousands of Palestinians who seek work in Israel every day.

      John Gillow - 2011-03-24 09:51 call stealing of land ,selling?Are you nuts?Have you been to Israel?I have,what you painting is far from what happens...Arabs are not allowed to use the same roads as Jewish settlers...Go there before you talk....Blacks african cross muslim countries and are forced to become prostitutes and not given the jobs that there were promised. Maybe if they jews then it is abit different but are still looked down upon.

      za101 - 2011-03-24 11:09

      what rubbish?? arabs in west bank cannot travel to israel cannot study in israel cannot go to shopping centres in israel arabs in west bank cant go to dead sea u are a liar