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UJ stampede 'avoidable'

2012-01-10 12:26

Johannesburg - Thousands of shocked prospective students and their parents stood outside the University of Johannesburg on Tuesday after a woman was killed and 17 other people were injured in a stampede.

"The news that someone has died has shocked me," said Jane Monare, who drove up from Bethlehem with her daughter in the early hours of the morning.

Her daughter plans to study mechanical engineering.

"I wonder why the university administration did not do something about this in order to avert this problem," she said.

‘No one telling us what’s going on’

Abandoned blankets, clothes and shoes - most of them wet from the overnight rain - were strewn on the pavement outside the Bunting road entrance to the university.

Many ambulances and police cars were still parked at the entrance, and police and university security staff were not allowing anybody in.

"No one is saying anything to us, to tell us what will happen," said Monare."I wish the education system can be improved to avoid such incidents."

Some prospective students had slept on the pavement waiting for the gates to open.

Carol Mkhonto, from the Eastern Cape, had been about 300 metres from the main entrance before the stampede.

She wanted to check the status of her application. She tried last week, but was told it was "not in the system" so was making another attempt.

"I feel very bad about this," she said.

Congestion

Mkhonto said that putting people who were returning for further study and newcomers in the same registration queue had caused the problem.

"There was a stampede because of congestion because the university put everyone who wanted to renew and the newcomers in the same queue."

Johannesburg Emergency Services spokesperson Nana Radebe said it received a call around 07:30 to say there had been a stampede just after the gates opened.

A woman died and 17 other people sustained injuries. The injured were treated in an emergency bus at the university.

One woman was critically injured with severe head and chest trauma. She was ventilated before taken to the Charlotte Maxeke Johannesburg Academic hospital for treatment, Netcare911 spokesperson Jeff Wicks said.

5 000 new applicants


The SA Youth Council was "dismayed" by the stampede.

"The university, after its experience of similar situations, should have found better means of dealing with such crises and it's important that we raise this issue across the entirety of the higher education fraternity," said national spokesperson Mangaliso Khonza.

UJ registrar Marie Muller told eNews channel that the incident happened as students queued for last-minute applications to the tertiary institution.

The university received 5 000 applications from new entrants on Monday.

TimesLive reported that last year there were 11 000 first-year places available and that the university processed 85 000 last year.

The situation was similar at other universities.

The University of the Witwatersrand, in Johannesburg, which has 5 500 spaces for first years, received 30 000 applications last year.

The University of KwaZulu-Natal, which can admit 9 000, received 61 500 applications; and the University of the Free State, which can admit 4 000, received 13 000 applications.

The Democratic Alliance in Gauteng said the university should have handled the applications process better, but at the same time, some students had unrealistic expectations as their marks would not be good enough.

"Many of them should rather enrol at the Further Education and Training (FET) colleges, but these colleges need to dramatically improve their pass rate so that they can attract more applicants," said the party's education spokesperson Khume Ramulifho.

"Two of the reasons for the long queues at UJ are the lack of adequate career guidance at secondary level and a lack of confidence in FETs."

It has four campuses - Auckland Park Kingsway, Auckland Park Bunting Road, Doornfontein and Soweto.

UJ is a merger between the former Rand Afrikaans University, the Technikon Witwatersrand and the Soweto and the East Rand campuses of Vista University.

It has four campuses - Auckland Park Kingsway, Auckland Park Bunting Road, Doornfontein and Soweto.

UJ is a merger between the former Rand Afrikaans University, the Technikon Witwatersrand and the Soweto and the East Rand campuses of Vista University.

It has four campuses - Auckland Park Kingsway, Auckland Park Bunting Road, Doornfontein and Soweto.

It also has a four-language policy of English, isiZulu, Afrikaans and Sesotho sa Leboa.

Its students come from over 50 countries in Africa and around the world.

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Comments
  • uvmadman - 2012-01-10 12:31

    bad planning as a former student i know that online registration is promoted for returning students, on the day of registration returning students use the computer labs to do so. Both new and returning students having to use 1 line was clearly a bad plan with disaster immanent

      mark.p.vrdoljak - 2012-01-10 15:14

      thats registration... the issue here is application! the registered students will return later and on set days.....

  • Angela - 2012-01-10 12:35

    "Its students come from over 50 countries in Africa and around the world.". How many of these stampeding maniacs were foreign nationals? Just asking..

      Kala - 2012-01-10 12:45

      Is that what is really important to you Angela?

      Willie - 2012-01-10 12:56

      @ Angela get your priorities right

      Kala - 2012-01-10 13:34

      Does it really matter if it was foreigners or locals that were stampeding?

      Johncarlos Cynical Biza - 2012-01-10 14:02

      Yeah, blame women/blacks/whites/foreigners/locals/right-handed people/atheists/any other grouping. That will solve everything.

  • michael.e.bowery - 2012-01-10 12:39

    Affirmative action chaos, and of course in this case tragedy. Its happened before but THIS UNIVERSITY seems unable to learn from its mistakes.

      Kala - 2012-01-10 12:46

      I fail to see how ill discipline from the applicant hopefuls is the fault of the university.

      dumisiledee - 2012-01-10 13:12

      @Kala, the university is partly to be blamed as well, this is not the first time this has happened, surely they should learn from their mistake and NOT allow late applications!

      Silver - 2012-01-10 13:23

      LOL Thando! You seriously don't know?

      Silver - 2012-01-10 13:35

      @dumisiledee: They don't know how to stand in line and wait for a turn and this is the university fault? If these people don’t know how to queue and wait their turn or be civilized, what are they doing at the university? It is not a difficult concept. What are they going to do there? What is next? Join Student council and burn down the institution if thing don't go their way? Oh wait, that happens every year......

      Kala - 2012-01-10 13:39

      @dumisiledee - A s members of society we follow rules and regulations to prevent things like stampedes. When that discipline breaks such as this event, then people get hurt and killed.

      Kala - 2012-01-10 13:47

      LOL. Nice one Piet.

      Johncarlos Cynical Biza - 2012-01-10 13:59

      @Thando Silver will not answer you because he doesn't know how to. I would like to hear someone legitimately blame this on the university(like all others) having black workers amongst its staff.

      Silver - 2012-01-10 14:30

      @Johncarlos Cynical Biza: I studied and yes we had to register as well. We had lines and you had to wait your turn. It was orderly and structured. So now Johncarlos, you tell me what changed?

      Johncarlos Cynical Biza - 2012-01-10 14:56

      @Silver the size of the applicants? The admission policy? It is shocking(not!) that you think you have intelligently answered me.

      Silver - 2012-01-10 15:18

      @Johncarlos Cynical Biza: My point was: No one ever forced us to stand in a line and wait for a turn. We did that by ourselves and if there weren’t any lines we made our own. Wonder how we accomplished that and on our own off all things? It must have been something to behold.

      Lufuno - 2012-01-10 15:39

      But the vice chancellor is white, is that white affirmative action

      owamin1 - 2012-01-10 15:51

      @Lufuno - the VC is not white wena. It's Irhon Rensburg. And he is not white.

      Silver - 2012-01-10 16:06

      @Lufuno: Now it's the chancellor fault? I feel like I'm in a heads meeting with councilors. *insert crying smiley here*

  • Zuz67 - 2012-01-10 12:40

    As a UJ staff member I am appalled by this. The system UJ is "trying" to use is not working!!, and will never work, for it's is a "user-Unfriendly-system" Late applications and submitting of final marks should be dealt with seperately, and all returning students should only be back on campus when registration takes place!!

      Schmee - 2012-01-10 13:53

      At UKZN and Wits they have returning students on separate days. UJ could learn something there. I've never noticed this type of chaos at either of these universities.

      stefanie.dutoit.Ash - 2012-01-10 14:25

      Schmee, RAU used to have two different days (two different months in fact) and seperate queues for firstyears and senoirs and it all used to be very civilised and mature. We can spend the next three days taking guesses as to how and why this has changed...

      Tshidiso - 2012-01-10 14:58

      We at UfS aren't experiencing such,however it is stupid for grade 12 learners to wait up until last moment to sort out their lifes.And the so called parents come expecting us to do miracle work.It's unfortunate what happened and I hope management better the system for the future.

      stefanie.dutoit.Ash - 2012-01-10 15:02

      I notice one person has given my comment the thumbs down. I would honestly like for that person to explain to me why he does not agree with me. Was your experience of RAU different? My comment is a statement of fact. Why do you not like it?

      Ehllene - 2012-01-10 15:18

      UJ in fact does have different REGISTRATION dates for first year and senior students as well as for the different courses. This was not registration!! It was people trying to APPLY for the first time or change from what they were accepted for. People should learn to apply early, to behave, to queue orderly, not to push, not to force their way through, not to jump over fences, etc. Can UJ truly be held accountable for a crowd who gathers outside its gates and then tries to force its way in? Is this not civil unrest? Nevetheless, the desperation is understandable considering the unemployment in SA. In addition, the higher education facilities built pre-1994 is not sufficient to cope with today's demands. The current government should find a strategic way of dealing with the lack of capacity. That said, it will be better if the entire process of late applications is stopped. Surely there are enough suitable candidates from all the applications received on time, and those who did not apply on time should apply for the following year. My condolences to the family of the mother who died.

      danibani24 - 2012-01-10 15:21

      Stefanie, this is not the registering of students (which is mostly done online and is done separately for first years and seniors). This is people trying to apply to study late.

      stefanie.dutoit.Ash - 2012-01-10 18:17

      According to the article, these were both first time applicants and existing students queuing to register. I quote: "Mkhonto said that putting people who were returning for further study and newcomers in the same registration queue had caused the problem. There was a stampede because of congestion because the university put everyone who wanted to renew and the newcomers in the same queue." When I went to university, applications closed around August. No late applications (or registrations) were allowed. Whichever it was, applications or registrations, in my day, things happened in a systematic, organised and civil manner. It was an honour and privilege to attend university and students were proud of their education and of their university. Most of the people I have worked with in prisons and holding cells were better behaved than the despicable mob shown on the video footage. These are supposed to be the crème of the crop. It is no longer admirable to hold a university education. I weep for the future of South Africa.

  • mattjohnbass - 2012-01-10 12:42

    Close the applications on the 31st of August... If you were not accepted by then go somewhere else. As a former student of UJ, I can tell you a tale of mismanagement or two, but the classes are too full already without late applications

      Moss - 2012-01-10 14:14

      you're correct, I graduated last year as well, the classes are just full!!

  • Werner - 2012-01-10 12:48

    I have first-hand experience of the horrendous administration of these registration days at UJ. But honestly - it's every year's story - they KNOW registrations in January are a nightmare. Really would have expected someone somewhere to sit up and realize they're doing it WRONG.

      mbrendaster - 2012-01-10 13:20

      My point exactly( Last year I was watchin the news around this time and it was still UJ all over) I bet they wanted somebody to die 1st before they can even think , UJ is pathetic really...

      Delton - 2012-01-10 14:03

      I am a former RAU student and it was always a nightmare, but it has gotten worse. I experienced UJ's incompetence last year when I tried to enrol my son. Go to other institutions, even their lectures suck!

  • Hangwani - 2012-01-10 12:52

    This has nothing to do with being civilized. The University employs clueless assistants who know nothing. Situation was unbearable for the students and I understand their frustration. UJ should have done something to prevent what happened. This is a lesson learned to other universities.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-10 14:41

      Its called patience , and no its not your girlfriends name !

      Leon - 2012-01-11 02:03

      it has everything to do with being civilized...- its not another person's responsibility for YOU to behave yourself...the university did not start the stampede did they? the university did not ask the students to stampede, did they?....no, the students did that all by themselves...clearly, the prospective 'students' have a lot to learn

      Vernon - 2012-01-11 08:29

      What a load of crap hangwani - it has EVERYTHING to do with being civilised! Being frustrated and desperate does not condone such barbaric behaviour where accepted norms and codes of behaviour can just be ignored.

  • Phumezo - 2012-01-10 13:01

    Let this woman be another Andries Tatane or Hector Pieterson of our times to revolutionalised our eductation sytem that is still in the hands of a few priviladged elites! We have white elephents in this country that were meant to impress and entertain the wealthy white capitalists built in less than thirteen months! Why not demolish them and turn them in institutions of higher learning! Its not like they are ever going to give Africa a World Cup again after Mandela is gone in our lifetime and the next!

      Kala - 2012-01-10 13:16

      And maybe you should get into the queue for basic education. And the queue for voter education And the queue for political education.

      Jeffrey - 2012-01-10 13:20

      @Phumeza, The "wealthy white capitalists" are hardly interested in soccer. Rugby and cricket are their sporting interests. It was an ANC "government" that pushed for the soccer World Cup to be in SA.

      Garth - 2012-01-10 14:54

      So the `wealthy white capitalists' are the ones that we have to blame for the ` white elephents' soccer stadiums! Damn those `priviladged elites', who have, I read, the educational system of this lemon, um country, in their hands too! Now we know who to blame. Thanks phumezo.

  • mfacebk - 2012-01-10 13:09

    Do not allow late registrations!

      Moss - 2012-01-10 14:15

      true that!! Problem is you cant apply with Grade 11 or Mid year results, they are just pathetic

  • Angus - 2012-01-10 13:14

    I wonder how many foreign students there are at SA uni's? Do they have a quota to allow a certain percentage, or is it just on a 1st come, 1st served basis? Judging from the news report that of the students that passed maths in matric, 70% got 40% or less for Maths. That tells me that there is a strong possibility that we have multitudes of students that don't qualify for university, who are applying. And lastly, this last-minute registration thing that so many students do every year without fail, is pathetic!

      busi.carol - 2012-01-10 13:22

      Foreign students pay their fees.

      Silver - 2012-01-10 13:26

      Good point Busi and most of them know that furthering you education is a privilege and not a right.

      Angus - 2012-01-10 13:39

      @Busi I suspect you have a VERY good point there!

      Moss - 2012-01-10 14:17

      True that Busi, and they pay tripple what we are paying

  • Lynda - 2012-01-10 13:17

    University applications in overseas countries have to be done online, we need to get into the 21st century. All schools need to handle applications or at least provide access to computers for potential students to apply. How can one possibly handle an influx of thousands of hopefuls for few places with a system like this?

  • ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-01-10 13:24

    "UJ stampede 'avoidable'": Ya think??? Duhh!! Epic FAIL!!

  • Pauline Hanekom - 2012-01-10 13:29

    Univ Stellenbosch has an e-registration system, with computer areas open to students who don't have their own. First year application closes in August. Their is also a process of physical registration, for those who need it, but it's spread over a week with different faculties registering on different days. Result: no stampedes!

      Phiwo Gasa - 2012-01-10 13:42

      We also have similar process at tuks. But we know why our universities are in order...real management

      Yolandi - 2012-01-10 14:24

      UJ also has an e-registration system, with computer areas open to students who don't have their own. Applications also close in Aug. There is also a process of physical registration over a week or two at the end of Jan and there are no stampedes. THIS IS HOWEVER NOT REGISTRATION, THESE ARE LATE APPLICATIONS!!!! Registration (end Jan) is for students who are ALREADY ACCEPTED; these students have not been accepted and are trying to get a space at the last minute. So I think the point you are trying to make is that the other universities do not get inundated with LATE APPLICATIONS, and UJ is not dealing with the LATE APPLICATIONS adequately. (I have been studying at UJ for 8years, never once had a problem with registration, and in the last couple of years just did it from home with e-registration)

      Ehllene - 2012-01-10 15:27

      Yolandi is right. Why can't people distinguish between REGISTRATION and LATE APPLICATIONS? PS. Yolandi, how is that PhD coming along? :)

  • ephesia.manamela - 2012-01-10 13:36

    im soory about what happen.i wish the university can increase their security.or maybe they can do their registration online.

  • mbongenia - 2012-01-10 13:36

    if there were only enough universities for our brthers and sisters

      Angus - 2012-01-10 13:46

      There ARE enough universities in SA Mbongeni. The problem is that many of the prospective students do NOT qualify for uni yet persist in applying. Also, there are too many students following very niche directions like engineering and law, and thus we have an uneven spread of graduate skills in SA. Too many lawyers and too few scientists, as an example.

  • Mtizozo - 2012-01-10 13:41

    With Technology that we have today, this should'nt have happed,,

  • tshodigirl - 2012-01-10 13:43

    this is a law suit waiting to happen. i see financial relief for the affected families. had the institution taken measures to atleast try to prevent what happened last year they'd be immune to a claim. i speak off the record when is say the funds that should have ''prevented'' this will go out one way or another, a court order can be one way. the question is whether the money is available, because it would be so sad if they money is there yet they face the same predicament they did 12months ago. if anything they should be sued as a lesson, a very expensive one nogal.

      tshodigirl - 2012-01-10 14:45

      this comment is hereby retracted, i just saw the clip. UJ cannot be held responsible for the barbaric behaviour displayed there. good thing they did n't crash the gate in.

  • jhr1gp - 2012-01-10 13:51

    We should blame that total twit, Kader Asmal, for merging four further learning institutions into one. Now there is overcrowding at one while previously each catered for a spesific market. ANC at work, simply not a clue what they are doing !!!

      Moss - 2012-01-10 14:22

      What market will that be? I mean RAU was racist! is that what you trefer to as market? why am I asking, you sound like a hollow bitter no brainer after all. dont bother answering.

      Riaan - 2012-01-10 14:47

      Racist? *Gasp* Really? How enlightening. And you're stupid, but that is obvious for everyone to see.

  • Jean-Paul - 2012-01-10 13:51

    Reading the Maths stats today if only 46% passed Maths and only 30% passed with over 40%. That means that little more than 1 person for every 10 that wrote maths got 40% & more. Quick Challenge i know the answer can people comment to what the exact percentage is based on the above stats assuming 100 students wrote the exam who achieved 40% & more? Shocking Stat

  • Roger - 2012-01-10 13:58

    drove past on the way to work the streets were filled with people cars were parked everywhere including the middle island of the road. they need the organise themselves and the students need to behave like humans when a gate is opened for them

  • Christopher - 2012-01-10 14:02

    It shows the desperation that our young people feel. They want a good education. They deserve the best chance they can get in a very competitive world.

      Wendy - 2012-01-10 14:38

      No, they don't deserve it! They need to get it the way they did when I finished school in 1973. They or their families have to be able to pay for it, or they need really good marks in Std 10/Grade 12 to qualify for financial help. And, before anyone accuses me of privilege, I didn't qualify. I've done OK, in spite of that. Many of the current crop of graduates can't figure anything out for themselves. They have to be "mentored" by people like me, and even by the people that had to leave school in Std 8/Grade 10 like many of my coloured colleagues.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-10 14:52

      @Wendy. Completely agree , no hard work needed , a handout will do ! With a little ingenuity you don't even need a "Education" , just do it yourself ! I never qualified for university but I still manged to get a good job in the I.T. sector.

  • Comrade - 2012-01-10 14:05

    no wonder the ANC rule ... their supporters are SHEEP!

  • Susan - 2012-01-10 14:19

    This sounds harsh, but prospective students have to become aware of the fact that applying to a university is not like going to the nearest drive-thru' to buy a guaranteed quarter pounder with cheese...

  • stefanie.dutoit.Ash - 2012-01-10 14:22

    I weep. What happened to RAU?

      Riaan - 2012-01-10 14:48

      Amen brother. A world class university in its day. Now it is a truly African university like unisa. What a shame and waste.

  • Silver - 2012-01-10 14:23

    Looked at the video and yeah what can you say. Funny thing, anyone else noticed the guard “AA shopping” for some nice shoes (assume for his girlfriend) at the end. Opportunistic little bugger isn’t he?

  • tshodigirl - 2012-01-10 14:44

    i retract my earlier comments on this, i just saw the video - i did not imagine it would be so pathetically barbaric. UJ cannot be held responsible for this, these people were outside the premises. unbelievably barbaric. what happened to single file?keep left pass right??????? and to think these people are at a place of higher learning trying to secure their chances, one would say they did not pay attention at "lower" learning.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-01-10 14:56

      Thanks. I was also reading every-ones story and combining it with the report I still could not made up my mind, but I will now look at the video material.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-01-10 15:24

      Here is my conclusion. There is a problem with our system. There is a problem with dept. of Education. There is a problem with our passing rate. There is a problem with children getting inform in career choices, what is needed and study options. There is problems with our teachers. There is a problem with children. There are problems with there parents. There are problems with education institutions, specifically offering an alternative to universities. There is a problem with South Africans, allowing these problems. The universities are supposed to deal with the cream of the crop while maintaining the status quo that goes with it and not do crowd control like a R5 shop having a sale.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-01-10 15:28

      O yes, there are a problem with people when they believe they have what it takes to attend a university, but do not know how to behave and what orderly lines mean. Should most of them even have been there and if not, where will those ones, like me, get a job???

  • lunghile.ndleve - 2012-01-10 14:45

    UJ, KZN, Free State, and Wits have the capacity to enroll 29500 1st years combined. In total last year there were 189500 applicants, 85000 of which wanted to go to UJ. Clearly we need more quality universities, coz gone are the days when universities relied on the fact that people were just not smart enough to qualify.....

      Leon - 2012-01-11 02:15

      you have to remember the pass rate requirements for matric has been progressively lowered during the last couple of years...which means there will be more and more people (who wouldnt make the cut in any case) applying to go to university. Then to compound the problem, all the low-rate students who werent given admittence the previous years also join the queues on the consecutive years.

  • Louise - 2012-01-10 14:47

    it's not a case of bad planning, it's a case of pushing and shoving, where no one knows how to form a proper queue and how to enter a gate civily. I've had the same problem catching a bus as a student, I was always bashed while trying to enter as someone was always trying to push there way in.

  • Emmanuel - 2012-01-10 15:08

    Mr Blade can you please do something about this,this thing of higher learning institution cannot continue like this please do something about this.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-01-10 15:43

      Yes Mr Blade put up the requirements. Ask schools to ensure they tell children who will have a change. Open other intuitions that can concentrate on more diploma education to those ones who should not even have been at UJ today. Tell children to use there brains to progress in life and that a piece of paper can't do it for you alone. O..yes, and tell the children that "higher learning education" is not a "thing", but a prestige medium to further your education.

  • lholho - 2012-01-10 15:08

    UJ is one of the biggest universities in Mzansi,tell me how how hard and expensive for a university to set-up an online registration? how is UNISA managing to get online registrations right? I studied in KZN(D.U.T). they had Central Applications Office(CAO) where they a number of Higher Education institutions in KZN. students apply via CAO to all these institutions and paying only one application fee...this worked fine for me as I was from Eastern Cape and having no relative in Durban..By the time I was going to durban I already Knew which Varsity I was accepted to.. Why can Gauteng Varsities do the same? clearly what happened today in UJ could have been avoided.....Hope they learn from this!

      Thenji Maphosa - 2012-01-10 15:30

      uj does have an online registration system!!

  • Lufuno - 2012-01-10 15:08

    Governance at UJ has failed, the vice chancellor and the council failed in their duties in complying with good governance procedures as legislated by the Public Finance Management Act. The Act requires the council and management under the supervision of the vice chancellor to perform risks assessments which identifies risks and controls to mitigate events such as these. According to my understanding UJ was exposed to similar crowding by prospective students last year at this time, and i still want to know what controls were implemented by management of UJ to minimise the risk of loss of life that has just materialised now besides having more security. Failure of management to comply with the law, PFMA, should result in criminal prosecution of the council, vice chancellor and other senior management responsible for this kind of negligence whilst enriching themselves with our tax moneys.

      Lufuno - 2012-01-10 15:50

      @Clinton you are just running away from responsibility. maybe part of management. I wish i was National prosecutor. I was going to fry your ass.

      Shirley - 2012-01-10 16:03

      You have big time denial and a seriously big racial chip on your shoulder! Lives were lost because people acted like a herd of cattle that have been walking for days and then they smell water-ever seen that?? Was identical except the cattle have horns,fur and a tail. Grow up!

  • Alan - 2012-01-10 15:17

    When you open the padock gates to let the animals in, what can you expect? I cannot beleive that ONLY 30% was needed to pass a subject in the matric exams, my 5yr old granddaughter would pass with distinsions !!!! LORD help South Africa in 10 yrs time !!!

  • Thabiso - 2012-01-10 15:20

    I blame both late applicants and university administration which failed to organise their things earlier...What were they thinking of letting millilons to go to the smallest yj campus "Bunting" obvioulsy it will not be easy to control the crowd due to the also adding factor as the university doesnt want to accomodate more student assistant to deal with such a crwod....All campuses sahall be used, its obvious that it will always be full, but it would have been different because that person would not have died..........The crowd also gort angry and started pushing wen the campus director at bunting road campus shouted " Its my campus" "I will not let you in if you behave like animals"...the crowd got angry and shouted, screamed, pushed.......

  • George - 2012-01-10 15:27

    I hope these morons will learn from this stampede and device means of dealing with similar situations in a more intelligent way. The blame is without a doubt on poor manangement.

  • DeWet - 2012-01-10 15:27

    Im not saying that the University is not to blame. BUT this is typical of our country and africa to stampede into a place. to FORCE thier way in regardless of anyone else. A similar incidnet took place last year on the launch of the new nokia in JHB. after people started lining up the previouse day ( you could swop out your old N series nokia for the new one, only the first 100 people though) The first 100 peole got tickets then in the morning thousands of people started coming and disrupting the line and squashing people against the ate. eventually they started forcing the gate @ Vodaworld open and started climbing over the gates as they did not accept that they were to late. THis also happened in the rain and a few people were injured during the stampede. This is a common occurence and the UNI should have known that. BUT it is a bigger problem than that.. This is a mentality that the whole of South Africa has. Break it if you cant have it. Or in these cases Force it and Stampede if you ddnt make it in time. TISA.. This is South Africa.

  • Hennie - 2012-01-10 15:35

    No humanity from the lot, just shows the high level of education... even the parents too, for not getting involved or did they start this. where was the days of all standning and waited to be attended too.

  • Michelle Vlok - 2012-01-10 15:40

    Why do these students wait till the last minute to apply? Why didn't they apply in 2011? Is it lack of awareness or what?

  • Archie - 2012-01-10 15:44

    This is what you get when you lower the entrance level for universities,i only passed standard matric so could never go to a tertiary institution,however i went on to start my own business and farming enterprise. Old saying you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.If you only got 30 percent you dont belong at university,properly speaking you are virtually unemployable in the industrial sector.If you cant apply yourself at school what hope have you got at varsity where you are expected to do much more on your own

  • Shirley - 2012-01-10 15:48

    The parents want answers,blaming organisers and university. I watched the video and came to one conclusion that the students themselves were toblame. Everyone running in another direction. If you go to a public meeting/gathering then you are expected to follow basic rules of courtesy,behave in an orderly fashion. This was not done!It was 1 big free for all and now they want to blame others!

  • DeWet - 2012-01-10 15:53

    Awww, where is the comments that I repleid to Uberjane or whatever. calling him a ignorant fool and a senile man that is living with emnesia thinking we are living in a struggle? I wanted to copy that post to one of his other racist comments. sigh....

      DeWet - 2012-01-10 15:54

      @ubhejane

  • Daniel - 2012-01-10 15:56

    "No one is saying anything to us, to tell us what will happen," said Monare."I wish the education system can be improved to avoid such incidents."....so when is national government aka ANC gonna do this...oh yeah perhaps NEVER. Also heard a little stat about education on the radio the other day, that the Western Cape has the highest matric pass results in the country...oh yeah the DA runs the Western Cape.... *THIS COMMENT IS NOT RACE INTENDED OR TO DISCRIMINATE ANYONE IN ANY RACIAL way. I know how it goes here on N24, everyone turns crap into race

      Wendy - 2012-01-10 16:28

      It's not the education system that is going to avoid such occurrences. It's the upbringing. Parents need to PARENT!

  • Mohsin - 2012-01-10 15:57

    maybe they were handing out free chicken licken?

  • magomarele - 2012-01-10 16:04

    Sad...very sad.

  • Matshidiso - 2012-01-10 16:15

    Looks lyk a white woman still stark in the past and thought that all students old & new can be put in 1 place. Lack of prospective vision by a "white intellectual".

      Shirley - 2012-01-10 16:36

      More like lack of self control and an abundence of stupidity you racist!

  • Jan - 2012-01-10 16:38

    The ANC has just spent R100mil on a birthday party !!! Why was that money not spent on building a new campus? I'll tell you why, because they don't give a damn about our youth, keep them uneducated and they will vote ANC.

  • William - 2012-01-10 16:59

    It is unfortunate that this has occurred and a life of a parent has been lost. I would suggest that the Universities should not be allowing late applications. All Matric students should be compelled to apply for University consideration early in their final year ,so that when the results are out the university Council determines ,from those who applied which faculty or department the student can fit best, depending on his or her choices that they put down on application. With such method you avoid the stamped. Those who do not make the cut ,their names are then forwarded to the FET colleges for consideration.

  • Leendert - 2012-01-10 17:04

    A university should be a select place of education for certain occupations. Most professions do not need a university degree at all and should thus not be taught at these places. Take a look at Europe where colleges and technnicons prosper. Being at university has no meaning in Sa as every Tom, Dick, Harry and their pooch gets in. none of this has anything to do with this tragedy though, so apologies for my little rant.

  • Hayley - 2012-01-10 17:55

    I'm sorry are we really gonna feel sorry for them? Half those people technically did not pass matric(if you don't get 50% you should fail!) Late applications are a joke, just cause you got 33% does not making you worthy of HIGHER education. Also since when are prospective university students complete animals to storm a gate, ever heard of this civilized technicality called a Que??

      stefanie.dutoit.Ash - 2012-01-10 18:29

      Achieving 33% sccore means that you have not a clue about 67% of what you were supposed to know of the subject matter. Would you want a doctor who does not know what he is doing 67% of the time to operate on you? Would you want an engineer who only makes correct calculations 33% of the time to calculate foundations for your house? Would you want a driver who does not know 67% of the rules of the road to drive your kids' shoolbus? Do you want your child to be taught by a teacher who knows only 33% of what he is supposed to teach your child? If your child asks him a question, he has a 67% chance of being told utter rubbish (or getting the blank "eish!" expression). In this country, we hand out certificates to people who only got 33% of the answers right, certifying that they know all there is to know about their field of study. In an ideal world, you should fail if you do not achieve 100%. We breed our own miserable future.

  • nicolette.louw - 2012-01-10 19:25

    African time doesn't fly in the real world!

  • cjnoddie - 2012-01-10 22:38

    I don't see how people can blame UJ. It is the people who weren't behaving like people.