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'Unsuitable' police to guard stations

2012-04-02 09:30

Johannesburg - Colonels and detectives are among 325 "unsuitable" North West police officials who will be redeployed to guard police station gates in April, Beeld reported on Monday.

The order, which takes effect on Wednesday, was announced in a letter from the provincial police head office dated last Monday, the newspaper reported.

The police officials concerned were those who could not carry firearms.

They would be expected to take over the duties of security companies, whose contracts would not be renewed when they expired on April 1.

The police officials affected include those who suffer from epilepsy, post-traumatic stress syndrome, bipolar disorder, depression or other psychiatric illnesses.

Those who have been found guilty of domestic violence, attempted murder or who have attempted suicide are also on the list.

R700 000 saving

One of the officers listed was blind, Beeld reported.

Provincial police spokesperson Brigadier Thulane Ngubane told the newspaper a national decision had been taken to not renew security companies' contracts.

"We will use our own members to perform those duties," he said.

The North West police department hoped the measure would save it R700 000 a month.

Beeld reported that some of the police officers on the list were threatening to take legal action if they were forced to work as guards.

"We're easy targets. How are we going to stay safe, especially when we are required to guard places at night? I feel that they're targeting people with problems and it's unfair," said one of the policemen.

Comments
  • winston.mullany - 2012-04-02 09:39

    WTF!!!! Attempted Murder???? Psychiatric ilnesses??? Actually I just had an epiphany...why don't they assign them to guard the presidency or government officials....just a thought!!!

      Jan - 2012-04-02 14:01

      Gna gna gna gna... yeah, great idea!

  • Peter-Peter - 2012-04-02 09:39

    OMG...WTF

      Peter-Peter - 2012-04-02 09:44

      "....epilepsy, post-traumatic stress syndrome, bipolar disorder, depression or other psychiatric illnesses. Those who have been found guilty of domestic violence, attempted murder or who have attempted suicide are also on the list." I cant help but get the picture of the 'retarded' police guy from the Scary movies (without the comedy...but with actual psychotic issues)

      Ang - 2012-04-02 10:29

      The blind officer is now unhappy because they removed his drivers license and his firearm even though he passed the tests. When they asked the tester how he passed, he couldnt remember because he has alzheimers. The bipolar spokesperson was unavailable for comment...

      PieterWolf Lombard - 2012-04-02 10:30

      You forgot the lazy,deaf,dumb andblind...

  • danie.theron - 2012-04-02 09:41

    Well if the same thing happens as with the principles, they will still get there full salary, guarding a gate for a colonel's salary.....

  • Jethro Sledge Lebotse - 2012-04-02 09:46

    good idea,must also check old police officers without matric and those without drivers license.

      stthrini - 2012-04-02 09:52

      Thats a very good comment Jethro.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-04-02 10:11

      Jethro...we still need a police force on the roads...we cant have all of them guarding at the gates

      gail.joyce2 - 2012-04-02 10:39

      as well as those who are overweight.

  • sharon.dreyer - 2012-04-02 09:54

    Surely if you are guilty of domestic violence and attempted murder you should be kicked out the police force????How crazy to have THAT sort of person who is a danger upholding our safety. Plain bloody unbelievable!

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-04-02 09:54

    There is nothing wrong with this redeployment. However, there is a point there from one who says they will be soft targets.

      clinton.bowden1 - 2012-04-02 10:05

      And you did not pick up the points of those guilty of domestic violence, attempted murder and suicides? Just curious thought but what exactly is your defintion of a safety ? Does it include a a suicidal, wife-beater watching over you at night knowing he did attempt murder at least one time.... OK then.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-04-02 10:17

      @clinton, good point. just view it in this way, Government has a Rehabilitation Programme in Correctional Service where it seeks to correct the offending behavior, afford criminals another chance to be better people. That another chance includes economic chances, employment and others. So, would it really be fair to leave outside every person that has been convicted for a criminal offence? Me, I dont think so.

  • Stuart - 2012-04-02 09:56

    April fool ??

      muriel.proudfoot - 2012-04-02 10:54

      It is April Fools everyday in SA. Just turn on the News :)

  • stthrini - 2012-04-02 09:57

    That must also be applied in the Eastern Cape,we are tired of people given a managerial post but cannot perform their duties and are not creative enough to support service delivery and will only report on duty and off duty.

  • Blip - 2012-04-02 09:59

    A COLONEL on guard duty? A full colonel? That's a high command rank. Without a firearm because he's too mentally-unstable to be trusted with one? How did these crazy bozos get so high up the promotional ladder in the first place?

      PieterWolf Lombard - 2012-04-02 10:37

      Ask Showahead...

  • Sharon - 2012-04-02 10:08

    Why are "unsuitable" people in the police force? If they are, for whatever reason, found to be unfit to do their duty, then they (and us) will be better off if they change careers.

      Martha St Clair - 2012-04-02 10:12

      Agree completely

  • Caiphus - 2012-04-02 10:10

    There is soo many departments that need facelift and redeployment, e.g.Education(this should be looked at because some teachers have no clue of what they adoing), Police(good thing is happening).This mobney acn be used to fund the tolling systerm that our giverment want to milk money from.Some tendrs should be cancelled and goverment must take charge of those duties.

  • Buhle - 2012-04-02 10:12

    "The police officials affected include those who suffer from epilepsy, post-traumatic stress syndrome, bipolar disorder, depression or other psychiatric illnesses" How the hell will they guard the police stations? "Those who have been found guilty of domestic violence, attempted murder are also on the list" Are they not suppose to be in jail?

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-04-02 12:10

      This is just a 1st list to scare the loafers and after they return to work/magical get healed they will scan the rest.

  • Ryan - 2012-04-02 10:25

    A blind guard good thinking ANC well done castor well done!

  • Jacqueline - 2012-04-02 10:28

    So the sociopaths, psychopaths, schizophrenics, traumatized, manic depressives, wife beaters, MURDERERS will be guarding the the sociopaths, psychopaths, schizophrenics, wife beaters and MURDERERS? This is not going to end well.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-04-02 12:07

      Not if scanning properly. There are plenty at home that can do light duty/guard duty that do not fall under these, but the police 1st have to compile a list, waiting for some loafers to decide to return back to work because of fear for guard duty and than scan through the ones left. You will be surprise how many are now suddenly healed.

  • Roy - 2012-04-02 10:32

    We MUST be the laughing stock of the world. Imagine hiring police to guard police stations and all of them are found to be guilty of various crimes. What is happening to this once beautiful country? The ANC since coming into power have f----d up everything and there is no way that it will ever come right They will "save" R700,000 per month and this will be pocketed by some corrupt official.

  • Senzo Mathebula - 2012-04-02 10:35

    P

  • gail.joyce2 - 2012-04-02 10:37

    ROFLMAO! this is hilarious

  • Andre - 2012-04-02 10:38

    90% of the police members are giving the rest a very bad name!

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-04-02 10:42

    I do hope the police take better care of their people than the SANDF. I see mentions of attempted suicide, PTSD etc in the list of problems ... My husband committed suicide 22 years ago because they didn't care enough to see that he was properly debriefed after his stints in the bush. One day he'd be dodging bullets and the next day he was back in civvy street. it all became too much and he ended it - we're still traumatized. Let's hope than the police and military have learned something over the past 22 years.

  • Norman - 2012-04-02 10:45

    They're gonna take legal action!? What, for being made to protect their own selves from criminals, isn't that a job for...oh, wait, ja...THE POLICE!!!

  • Jaco - 2012-04-02 10:46

    Stomach in chest out!!!! Not stomach out, chest in!!! Gravy train ends here, suck it up and do your jobs!!!!! Do not agree with using officers who have been arrested or have cases pending though.

  • Mable - 2012-04-02 10:48

    wtf?Is dis a joke?

  • rrakoma - 2012-04-02 10:50

    saves money in the end, I think it should be implemented country wide. Now if only the SANDF can come up with a solution of how they can assist in protecting our Rhino, I think if deployed some soldiers for a 3 month rotation period then they could assist rangers in fighting poachers. Just a thought.

  • Elton - 2012-04-02 10:54

    This is an april fools people, calm down...

  • Carolyn - 2012-04-02 11:06

    Would getting rid of the so called policemen on the list for guard duty not save the police even more money, then maybe they could afford to hire proper security guards, maybe the police are afraid of the policemen who will be guarding them

  • Peter - 2012-04-02 11:12

    Come on Guys - be fair, how else is JayZee supposed to fill his promose of 5 mill jobs in 10 years?? He might as well start out by being NON discriminatory to the (PCorrect)"unfortunates". Also all the "redepolyment" does is move one problem area to another - no solutions, and creating vacancyies to fill with his Brudders

  • Mark - 2012-04-02 11:14

    Funniest thing I've read in a while, thanks News24. So we have police, Colonels even, who can not carry firearms, who suffer from epilepsy, post-traumatic stress syndrome, bipolar disorder, depression or other psychiatric illnesses, who have been found guilty of domestic violence, attempted murder and have attempted suicide. One of the officers listed was blind. Now tell me in all honesty, do we have any able-bodied police, capable of reading, writing, shooting and driving? Once more justifies my decision to pay a security company to guard my property as I really wouldn't want one of the above responding if I had a serious problem.

  • Helmut - 2012-04-02 11:21

    This must be a late APRIL-JOKE

  • Leon - 2012-04-02 11:27

    I think it is good because colonels today are not the officers they used to be in the past, well qualified on senior management level. The standard of officers in the new defence force and police is absolutely pathetic in most cases.

  • tom.vorster - 2012-04-02 11:59

    This really is a brilliant idea, thought up the most effective law enforcement organisation on this planet. Take one misfit policeman (and I'm not referring to those with pysical and mental problems); hang him/her out to dry at the gate to the police station where they can be humiliated by their colleagues and looked down upon by the public; and then RELY ON THEM TO SECURE THE PREMISES. RIGHT!!!!

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2012-04-02 12:00

    Maybe this report were written with sensation in mind. Maybe the police said that they have so many people that are at home due to certain sickness and awaiting court cases that they want to use them because they get paid to sit at home but the force feels that they can do guard duty. Not to say all will be used, but the ones that can be used must be used. If any policeman are afraid to do guard duty, irrelevant of his previous position of serving, he/she is not fit to be on the force. They are supposed to be police, for heaven sake. In the army you do guard duty if you are not fit to do something else. The have/had a system that controlled even the "not so good ones". How the hell can they be too afraid? What do they do when getting in a contact situation? The force can have armed members mixed with unarmed members to do these duties. You do proper planning in deployment. I belief that if the police used the list, made and work through it to see who they can use they will be able to save. Good idea. Just do it properly. It can cause that only real sick/disable members are left at home and the loafers or not so "sick/disable" do "light duty". I say again. Just do the scanning properly.

  • mal10s - 2012-04-02 12:47

    "Those who have been found guilty of domestic violence, ATTEMPTED MURDER or who have attempted suicide are also on the list." Did I read this right? You can be found guilty of attempted murder and then still be on the force?!? And be trusted to guard a police station?!?

  • Cindy - 2012-04-02 15:25

    For heavens sake if they are unsuitable through mental incapacity or criminal behavior deal with them accordingly, not by getting them to guard the gates! Jeez imagine going to report something at the police station and having to get through a paranoid schizophrenic/manic-phase bi-polar gate guard before you can do so ..... or having to persuade the guard to put down the razor before you can get in??? Surely those convicted of criminal offences should have been fired?

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