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Vavi: Painting the work of a sick mind

2012-05-18 12:48

Cape Town - Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi on Friday condemned the artist of the controversial painting depicting President Jacob Zuma with his penis hanging out.

The painting, titled The Spear, is part of an exhibition at the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg called Hail to the Thief II, by Cape Town artist Brett Murray.

Vavi wrote on Twitter: “That painting can only be a work of a very sick mind full of hatred reflective of the damage our apartheid past caused to our society.

“Imagine if your own father was presented in that degrading form. If its good why don't take pictures of their private parts & tweet them? [sic]”

Vavi said while we should celebrate the country’s “artistic creativity”, painting a head of state or any other person in that manner is “silly and very provocative”.

The ANC instructed its lawyers to approach the courts to force the gallery to remove the portrait, City Press to remove the photo from its website, and for the destruction of all printed promotional material.

But Brett Murray, the Goodman Gallery and City Press were already three of the top trending topics in South Africa on Twitter and the controversial painting had already been shared on the social networking site.

The ANC said the painting violated Zuma's right to dignity. It said his dignity as ANC president, as president of the country, and as a human being had been dented by "this so-called piece of art".

Meanwhile, the gallery said it would not remove the painting as this would amount to censorship.

Comments
  • RSole - 2012-05-18 12:51

    Takes one to know one.

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:00

      Yea hes too busy trying to have DA members stoned and organizing illegal marches to realize he is the one with the sick mind

      dave.kofang - 2012-05-18 13:02

      Wrong is wrong.You cant condone such a thing.

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:06

      @dave.kofang - Didnt hear you complain when Cosatu started throwing rocks at the DA, get off your high horse and sit down

      Peter-Peter - 2012-05-18 13:07

      Here you go Vavi...some nice pencil and crayon pics of a house and family with a nice bright sun in the corner for you... obviously your maturity isn't grown up enough to understand adult paintings and a little bit of satire.

      1amAlan - 2012-05-18 13:12

      Personally I would have labelled it PRICK. On a more serious note the artist and the gallery owner must have known this would have been the reaction from the ANC. I think the ANC has just drawn a lot of attention to it.

      Rudi - 2012-05-18 13:18

      What if this was a painting of Zille?

      coleman.guyg - 2012-05-18 13:26

      We all know Zille has balls, we don't need to see hers. And I am sure if she was portrayed with her balls out, that would be a compliment. So sure bring on a painting with Zille's balls hanging out!

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:26

      @Rudi - I don't know, what if it was?

      Tuco - 2012-05-18 13:27

      The eTolls are the work of a sick mind. :p

      Peter-Peter - 2012-05-18 13:39

      We all know that 'Zilla has b*lls', look at the people that she is up against! Infact, it would have made more sense for it to be her rather than this 'president' we have ZILLE FOR PRESIDENT!!!

      Steve - 2012-05-18 13:58

      I hear that school-kids are now referring to Zuma as "Speedbump!" Must have grown tired of Showerhead.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-05-18 14:00

      lol, steve, 'pothole' would have been better

      Martin - 2012-05-18 14:01

      A nice picture for all of you. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150960394357915&set=p.10150960394357915&type=1&theater

      Preshen - 2012-05-18 14:03

      The Paint must be called “He father the nation”

      Sean - 2012-05-18 14:06

      Obviously ``apartheid`` had to be brought in to this ! Vavi must rather stfu , bloody racist !!

      Renny - 2012-05-18 14:12

      @peter-peter Man I love this video, I've seen it before & it gets better each time I watch it. The reverent deserves a bells, that man talks the truth, well done.

      Bambanani - 2012-05-18 14:13

      if it was zille painted with her bra and her private parts hanging i bet it was never going to be shown in that gallery at all.

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 14:18

      bmbanani - Zooma's Mshini Vavi is the only thing that can hang out! Since Zille's bra is shown, there is absolutely nothing of the female body part that COULD possible hang out! LOL Have you EVER been with a woman before?

      Fussed - 2012-05-18 14:21

      Vavi can only walk the streets and throw stones and ak a mess. He calls that art. So who from the two of them has a sick mind

      Nigel - 2012-05-18 15:15

      @RSole .....Sorry but that is close on treason! You dont do that kind of sh*t...I hope President Zuma kicks his ass seriously! The artist is an Embarrassment to white people. He should grow the f*ck up! Where do we get off insulting one another like this all day - Has it brought about one bit of harmony? Yes i'm white!

      eil33nn - 2012-05-18 15:23

      @Chriswhite Trea·son [tree-zuhn] Show IPA noun 1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign. 2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state. 3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery. I think point 2 and 3 has no part in this argument as we do not have a sovereign, and we live in a democracy...

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-18 18:03

      We are an AFRICAN culture not a Western one. Our cultures do not see the humour in this nonsense. All we want from the west is the first world living standard hopefully We as AFRICANS realize that our cultures are BETTER than the Western alternative. If many South African's of all cultures find this entertaining, It may be too late as it is. This would not reflect our true roots.

      Jacques - 2012-05-19 08:37

      Is it sicker than the minds of the murderers and thiefs in your organization?

      mcgillveraysabino - 2012-05-19 08:43

      Zuma has no education Zuma has no birth control All in all you just are Another brick in the wall All in all you just are a machine gunner! Zuma and Vavi are bricks in the wall keeping South Africans in Poverty, and slaves of the anc.

      henk63 - 2012-05-19 08:55

      @Tamaranui - Isn't it strange that Africans always refer to their "culture" and use the word to defend acts which are universally offensive? What in your culture make it "better" than others? Try and see things objectively (which means, from a distance) and you will notice that poligamy, corruption, nepotism and in fact everything you stand for is being frowned upon by more advanced cultures. As they say, the horse has bolted - you cannot go back in time to when these primitive things were acceptable.

      lownabester - 2012-05-19 10:30

      Always wanted to see if Zuma had balls, now I now, none, nada, nothing.

      Mehluli - 2012-05-19 11:23

      He is from Cape Town not surprised he is a member of the all white DA.The press should be given space in parliament as the official opposition.

      marnalouw - 2012-05-19 12:37

      @dave.kofang Oh! So justifying violence isn't sick either,huh? The narrow mindedness of these people...

      seymour.howe - 2012-05-19 15:16

      Vavi - you just show yourself to be a bigger prick than the one shown in the painting! "reflective of the damage our apartheid past caused to our society" - WTF's this got to do with Apartheid you ignorant, racist, A**hole?

  • eil33nn - 2012-05-18 12:53

    "Vavi wrote on Twitter: “That painting can only be a work of a very sick mind full of hatred reflective of the damage our apartheid past caused to our society" Blame it all on Apartheid? for 18 years thats the only argument you can still hold on to...

      Kala - 2012-05-18 13:00

      In 36 years they will still be using it as an excuse.

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:02

      And for the next 100 years they will continue to play the race card and blame apartheid. Its sad that people like Vavi cant uplift themselves and must rather point fingers for their own slow progression in SA society

      Jonathan - 2012-05-18 13:03

      Not only that but he proceeds to argue: “Imagine if your own father was presented in that degrading form. If its good why don't take pictures of their private parts & tweet them? [sic]” Missing the issue as usual. They may very well have a case to have the painting removed but if its based on his above thoughts then all I can say is: play the world's smallest violin.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-05-18 13:12

      The REASON WHY they will still blame apartheid. ****BE WARNED**** www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ this video will shock you guys (black and white)

      Jannie - 2012-05-18 13:16

      American black people have been playing the slavery card for 300 years..

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:25

      @JannieSwem - Someone should revoke the race card and give them a noddy badge instead

      eil33nn - 2012-05-18 13:56

      @ Jonothan, just search for 3friskyfridays on twitter...some of them are "self portraits"...So seriously i agree, his argument holds no water... @ Peter LOL! Noddy badges for all

      Lizette - 2012-05-18 13:57

      @Peter. Revoke the race card? People like you keep racism alive stupid racist

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 13:58

      Twitter? I thought he said he'd stop using this social network..lol!

      Peter - 2012-05-18 14:10

      @Lizette - Sho someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Whats wrong with wanting to get rid of the race card? Calling people names isnt very nice either

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-05-18 14:15

      20 years down the road apartheid will still be blamed for everything. It's because the ANC has failed miserably in running this country.

      TSOTSI Smilification - 2012-05-18 14:58

      WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU? WHY IS RACE CONSTANTLY BROUGHT ONTO THIS FORUM! FROM WHITE AND BLACKS! STOP SEPARATING ONE ANOTHER ACCORDING TO RACE! IT'S POINTLESS! GIVE IT UP!

      Michael - 2012-05-18 15:35

      thetre allsways use it..hypothetically had colonialism not existed in South Africa,you think the olny tribe left would be Zulu,would they then march nother and conquer....absolutely,so whats so important that as whites we are branded as racist yet every group in the world is a supremist to his own kind...hmmmmmmm

      Voiceinthedesert.co.za - 2012-05-18 16:08

      @ PETER PETER - wow man that man speaks the truth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ

      jacqui.c.baumgardt - 2012-05-18 23:50

      wow, Peter. what an eye opener

  • Dennis - 2012-05-18 12:56

    Guess this is the danger of electing someone who never had dignity in the first place. Maybe if he was elected then he could claim to be dignified

      Bambanani - 2012-05-18 14:05

      i suppose you were born yesterday,zuma was elected by a demacratically elected parliament,if u didnt agree with the system of election u still have the rights to mobilize and win election and change the system.stop lying.

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 14:21

      LOL polio and bambas - Is there a problem with your leader's Mshini Vavi hanging out? The portrait shows the true leader of South Africa: the one that sticks out of the picture not the Lenin-like figure LOL...

      ThaBob - 2012-05-18 14:27

      You mean ERECTED ???

      TSOTSI Smilification - 2012-05-18 15:00

      Poloyatonki - IS THAT THE BEST YOU HAVE? SHUT UP? WHY DO YOU EVEN POST HERE IF YOUR POST'S REPRESENT YOUR IQ? ARE YOU ASHAMED?

      Dennis - 2012-05-18 18:03

      Guess you right with the parliament being elected, but if you were well informed Bambanani you would remember he was installed before the election by the elite. Some democracy that is

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:20

      Bambanani, there was nothing democratic about Zuma's election. What democratical elected government?. You mean those elected after tshirts, food parcels and pure intimidation did it's job?.

  • Martin - 2012-05-18 12:57

    Dear Artist, ...fabulous!!! Don't sell - let the media hype continue. Take it off the market, but not out of any exhibition. Few months down the line, auction it off! The ANC will do your marketing for the next few weeks... if I'd have the cash, I'd buy it today!

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 14:00

      as far as I understood this paiting has already been sold for something like 120k??? If I were the artis I'd donate it to a charity like the victims of rape??? lol

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 14:24

      the two votes down MUST be polio and bambas LOL

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:23

      The only thing the hysterical ANC achieved is that this picture, in all it's glory are now watched all over the world. Other than our news programs that thought it better to disguise the offensive bit. Somebody went to work with a powder puff.

  • Ryno - 2012-05-18 12:57

    and every anc / cosatu / sacp leader will now have their 5 cents worth...

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:07

      If they added up all the 5c's maybe it would add up to the R30 Billion they threw away on E-tolls

  • Chantelle - 2012-05-18 12:57

    BHA HA HA HAHA! Apartheid... here we go..

      Sean - 2012-05-18 14:10

      It is actually pathetic , how these clowns must always bring in apartheid !! What pathetic excuse would they have if it wasn`t for apartheid ??

  • The-third - 2012-05-18 12:58

    art... is not for everyone. Clearly.

  • Gieljam - 2012-05-18 13:00

    This cannot be condoned by any sane person ,this has nothing to do with freedom of expression or the sort its a blatant violation of a persons integrity irrespective alive , dead or stance and should not be allowed now or ever. Yes and please do not always bring apartheid into the picture because this person would have been dealt with severely if it was then.

      MagdaKus - 2012-05-18 13:52

      Yeah... It sounds in bad taste. Not that one should comment on what one has not seen- but this does not inspire me to wish to see it...

      coleman.guyg - 2012-05-18 13:59

      fortunatley the constitution and the bill of human rights disagrees with you. it's called freedom of expression and it's a constitutional right because it must be enforced whether you like it or not.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:25

      Gieljam. don't worry, if this government has it's way, the same strict censure rules the old government had will be in place again soon. Bugger that.

  • Kala - 2012-05-18 13:00

    Your own people dance unashamedly around with the hands depicting a shower head.. Are they too not mocking your president. Should they too not have legal action taken against them. Zuma lost any dignity he might have had when accusations of rape started surfacing.

      chikunga - 2012-05-18 16:00

      unless u have been stripped off of all little intelligence left in your little brain,your comparison is quite pathetic.this is not a hand depicting a shower.this is a penis on the person of a presidency

  • Marius - 2012-05-18 13:00

    That thing hanging out is called a Vavi.

      Stewart - 2012-05-18 13:19

      LOL

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 14:02

      that is bloddy funny! Zuma's Mshini Vavi!

      Stirrer - 2012-05-18 14:12

      Mtondo we Sizwe (Dick of the nation)

  • The-third - 2012-05-18 13:00

    and taking a shower to prevent Aids is what? The work of a sane man?

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-05-18 13:01

    Sorry Vavi my boy... Its not sick.. Its a piece of art, and a very accurate one at that since Jacob can't keep his willy in his pants.

      Press - 2012-05-18 14:10

      Yeah - not nearly as sick as what COSATU is doing to the unemployed youth . . .

  • Chris - 2012-05-18 13:03

    HAHAHAHAH what a TOOL! excuse the pun..well if he understands what a pun is...

  • Bambanani - 2012-05-18 13:03

    this is a sick racist mind.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-05-18 13:09

      Actually this is not the first painting depicting Zuma naked - a black artist also did one - but of course when a white guy does it it is racist... so bored with the race card, aren't you?

      Kala - 2012-05-18 13:09

      You are correct in that statement. I assume you are talking about Vavi the Rascist.

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:11

      Agreed, Vavi has an extremely sick racist mind

      Jannie - 2012-05-18 13:19

      and you have been brainwashed by your beloved leaders.

      Johnny - 2012-05-18 13:36

      Why is this racist Bambanani ? Please explain to me !

      Stirrer - 2012-05-18 14:14

      @Johnny - probably because black men's dicks are much smaller than depicted in the painting.

      jenny.sykes2 - 2012-05-18 14:20

      Wow really?? This racist sh*t is really getting old!

      Sean - 2012-05-18 14:22

      @Bambanani - Is there any other word in your vocbulary besides ``racist``??

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-18 14:44

      Well lets face it.. The artist is brilliant. He's scoring thousands on advertising at the cost of all the dicks and pricks from the ANC and Vavi and his followers

      TSOTSI Smilification - 2012-05-18 15:03

      Bambanani - ARE YOU STILL MAKING NOISE BUT NO SENSE?

  • ngonimclean - 2012-05-18 13:04

    No wonder mugabe chased these people away!!!!

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:11

      Eish... shame sweetheart, are you upset again?

      Abel - 2012-05-18 14:11

      gud 1 ngonimclean dey will do anything to destroy your image from Media to Art

      Press - 2012-05-18 14:13

      No wonder the Zulu people chased Mugabe's people out of South Africa . .

      Sean - 2012-05-18 14:24

      @ngonimclean - How many of Mugabe`s own people die every day ?? You are so intelligent . You must hurry now , you might be late for woodwork class !!

      ThaBob - 2012-05-18 14:29

      No wonder the matabeles chased the Zulus and Xhosas to the southern tip of Africa

      TSOTSI Smilification - 2012-05-18 15:04

      NOTSOCLEAN _ I THINK WE HAVE TO WASH Your DIRTY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP! IF YOU WANT LIKE UNCLE BOB SO MUCH GO TO ZIMBABWE!

  • Greg - 2012-05-18 13:04

    Go throw some more rocks Vavi and get over it...

  • jacques.koorts - 2012-05-18 13:04

    "vavi promotos pornography" will be the next headline.

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 14:07

      Vavi featuring as Zuma's Mshini Vavi - dangling about!

  • Marius - 2012-05-18 13:04

    @bambani. I sorry i not speak good english my komrydes.

  • willybegood - 2012-05-18 13:05

    ...but throwing bricks at dissenting views is ok, right Vavi? Close your mouth chop, your forked tongue is showing.

  • Lourenzo - 2012-05-18 13:06

    I dont like Mr DICKtator....its fine by me

      Bambanani - 2012-05-18 13:54

      zuma is not a dictator,if u dont like him organize and vote him out,the man was elected democratical,u have a chance next election start now and organize,please dont count those who follow this article with hatred of zuma they count next to zero and they know very well and lets see whether u can beat him.

      sven.gohre - 2012-05-18 14:55

      @Bambi, Zuma was elected by just 2000 people, and not all of them voted for him. Out of a population of over 60 million and more than 20 million registered voters, I would hesitate to say that he was elected democratically. In fact no past President , current or future President will be able to claim that they were voted in Democratically until the people of South Africa are allowed to vote directly for the President directly.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:29

      PeggySven, well said. Maybe Bambani gets the message.

  • malapane.bruce - 2012-05-18 13:08

    Vavi u said u r leaving tweeter

  • Bokfan - 2012-05-18 13:08

    Vavi is clearly jealous that HE is not the Mthondo we Sizwe. Not to worry Mr Vavi we already know what a big pr!ck you are.

  • Kevin - 2012-05-18 13:09

    If it was me doing the painting I'd rather paint our Dishonourable Jacob Zuma in a trash can or in a jail cell, but good job on the artist for exercising his Contitutional right to the Freedom of Expression.

  • Sonja - 2012-05-18 13:09

    WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK. VAVI TOILET

  • Bart - 2012-05-18 13:10

    Did anyone notice the exhibition is titled "Hail to the Thief 2". Now surely THAT where the attention must be

      Bokfan - 2012-05-18 13:17

      LOL They just pled "no contest" to that one.

  • Raymond - 2012-05-18 13:10

    Vavi-Go sit in Parliament and you will hear and see SICK minds.\r\nThe truth hurts.

  • Kabelo - 2012-05-18 13:11

    Paint Vavi pls

      Bambanani - 2012-05-18 13:54

      may somebody paint zille please

      Peter - 2012-05-18 14:42

      Bambanani - you want to see a naked middle aged woman that badly? We can see your racism a mile away

      Jabu - 2012-05-19 11:27

      @Peter, So you are happy seeing a naked old man, pervert?

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:31

      Jabu, what naked old man?. Your imagination is running away with you.

  • Utopian - 2012-05-18 13:11

    I feel very sorry for those of you that think that this painting is anything but a political statement. These types of acts only add more fuel to the fire in an already highly racially polarized society. I hope Brett Murray can live with the blood on his hands.

      mike.clery - 2012-05-18 13:53

      People don't realise that the button they're pressing is the "self-destruct" button .....

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:32

      Utopian, what blood on his hands?. Don't be stupid.

  • dave.leverton - 2012-05-18 13:13

    This might help - the painting is based on this one: http://www.revleft.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=1067&pictureid=8935 Make more sense now ?

      Bokfan - 2012-05-18 13:21

      Thanks Dave you will now be accused of racism for likening Zuma to some balding white guy in a cardboard suit.

      dave.leverton - 2012-05-18 13:28

      I'm sure they will make an exception for Lenin ;)

  • Herman - 2012-05-18 13:14

    Remindes me of whom we are run by!

  • Jannie - 2012-05-18 13:15

    vavi when you gonna admit communism is wrong. why are you surpised? Communist idealism vilifies leaders as "Gods" Stalin, Hitler, KJI its like insulting Jesus, the pope or Allah.. get my drift. We are living in a communist state

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-18 13:15

    He dented his own image with his deviant behavior . He created the food for this artist thoughts.

  • anthro45 - 2012-05-18 13:15

    Using the old "Apartheid" story is so weak. Can you guys not come up with something new? What have you done to better anything in the last 18 years? Please name me 1.

      malebogo.ivan - 2012-05-18 13:38

      why cant you pack your bags and go back to Australia bcs its where people like u belong.

      Lizette - 2012-05-18 13:48

      Ag f@k Peter. You embarress me. No Pieter from the good days would say such stupid racist things on a forum unless he himself is also a lower grade student

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:49

      @malebogo.ivan - Now theres no reason to be racist, anthro45 and myself asked valid questions and made valid points. Do you deny that the ANC has still not given books to school kids half way through the year?

      Peter - 2012-05-18 14:03

      @Lizette - I passed all my subjects on higher grade, Although i only got 42% for Afrikaans but language was never my thing. Oh btw why am i racist? I never brought race into it. Did the ANC not give books to school kids, the judge must have been lying in the ruling yesterday when he mandated the goverment to supply books

      Press - 2012-05-18 14:23

      Actually peter you do bring race into it - in a rather unpleasant way . .

      patient.mothiba - 2012-05-18 14:27

      I guess you are blind... Just look around you'll the difference...

      Peter - 2012-05-18 14:44

      @Press - Cosatu members not being able to read = racism?

      Press - 2012-05-18 14:58

      @Peter - yes - sick stereotyping and implied racial profiling of the worst possible kind - stopit - South Africa is for all . . .

      Peter - 2012-05-18 15:17

      @Press - Then why don't i ever feel like its for all? Why does everyone else get a say but when a real indiscretion occurs like stoning a peaceful march then its white people deserving it

      Jabu - 2012-05-19 11:07

      The economy has not collapsed in the past 18 years. Happy now?

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:34

      Malebogo why don't you pack your bags and go back to the Congo? It is where people like you belong

  • Sifiso - 2012-05-18 13:16

    Jacob Zuma's image represents the ANC and our country, if we allow things like this to happen then we are not showing unity in the international community. Where will you hang such in your house if you buy it.

      Jannie - 2012-05-18 13:21

      what planet are you from? Allow things like this to happen? You must only have like 3 brain cells. wake the hell up man... this is DEMOCRACY.

      Bart - 2012-05-18 13:23

      inside the toilet door

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:30

      @Sifiso - Personally I wouldn't hang it anywhere... i would print it on a welcome mat so people can wipe their feet on it on the way in

      bruce.wilson.313 - 2012-05-18 13:31

      Sifiso, if JZ represents the image of this country, then we are already the laughing stock of the international community.

      anthro45 - 2012-05-18 13:37

      Bruce, wilson, in fact we are already the laughing stock of the whole world and I think some aliens as well.

      mike.clery - 2012-05-18 13:57

      @JannieSwem "this is a DEMOCRACY" - for *now* ....

      Bambanani - 2012-05-18 13:59

      @sifiso,u can see from the response to your comment that we have a lot sick mind in this country,what apartheid did to this country can not be repair.

      Peter - 2012-05-18 14:14

      @Bambanani - This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with a useless corrupt neptotistical(Not sure if thats a word) incompetent self righteous government. I could care less if the president was purple, white black or asian. I want a democratic reliable government that doesnt steal my tax money, is that so hard to understand?

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-05-18 14:27

      @ Peter yes, for some, that is very hard to understand. @Sifiso, Jacob Zuma's image is one of utter disgrace to this country. He and his party are responsible for irrepairable damage of our unity within this country. You have it wrong!

      TSOTSI Smilification - 2012-05-18 15:08

      RACDE/APARTHEID/RACE/APARTHEID THATS ALL I EVER HEAR FROM THE TROLL... SIFISO! WELL SAID! AT LEAST YOU ARE APPROACHING THE ISSUE WITHOUT PLAYING THE RACE CARD WHILST BEING A IDIOT!... LIKE BAMANI HERE! HOWEVER I STILL HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU!

      Jabu - 2012-05-19 11:12

      Brett murray's wife has always been nagging him saying why he can't satisfy one wife whilst Zuma is satisfying four wives. Now you understand where the hatred is coming from.

  • chris.vanvuuren.7 - 2012-05-18 13:17

    And the circus continues.. Freedom of expression only counts when it suits you does it Vavi? Clown. Go read animal farm and see if you can guess which animal you have become!

  • patient.mothiba - 2012-05-18 13:17

    I'm a supporter of JZ, but I just think unnecessary. I truly don't any sane man out there will appreciate it. Being opposite gender I truly feel that it is degrading all men...

      Frances - 2012-05-18 13:40

      You are indeed unnecessarily a JZ supporter... Or your thinking is completely unnecessary. Either or, I suppose you intended to truly doubt that any sane man out there will appreciate it? Be patient.mothiba, don't react so hastily.

      Peter - 2012-05-18 13:56

      @Frances - 100000 thumbs up, people most stop over reacting

  • Bob - 2012-05-18 13:17

    Leave the painting alone..! We all wanna see the prick that is running the country!

  • Mashudu - 2012-05-18 13:17

    VAVI is right!

      Jannie - 2012-05-18 13:20

      and you need a reality check... stay off the khat, or pipe, or meths.. it screws with your mind

      Press - 2012-05-18 14:24

      Mashudu is wrong !

      Mashudu - 2012-05-18 15:49

      @ Jannie & Press what is your children going to say when the see that pic? I'm not blaming this to Apartheid.

      Lionel - 2012-05-20 11:31

      I thought he was left!

  • Chris - 2012-05-18 13:17

    So, this is blamed on Apartheid... Again... Sheezzz Wonder who's the guy with the sick and twisted mind - the artist or Vavi? Or both?

  • Byron - 2012-05-18 13:19

    well there you go kids, you want money fame and to trend on twitter? Just paint someone with their genitals showing - ok kids? off you go and remember, it's freedom of expression

  • phillip.coetzee - 2012-05-18 13:20

    E-toti in die storti........maak nie saak wat, hy is n vernedering vir die hele Suid Afrika.

  • howard.komati - 2012-05-18 13:20

    It is wrong for people to attack Vavi regarding the painting. Jacob Zuma is the President and a father despite his mistakes somewhere somehow he must be respected. Two wrongs dnt make a right. Zuma's time will come and he will vacate his office bt in the meantime lets nt make him a messiah in the eyes of those who are weak.

      Deon - 2012-05-18 13:23

      Fathering 20 +? children from 4? + different women was probably the reason why he was painted this way.

      Frances - 2012-05-18 13:42

      He is a father to many, because of his mistakes...

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-05-18 14:29

      Hey Howard, nobody MUST be respected. Ok? RESPECT IS EARNED! I cannot respect a lying thieving polygamist who is the root cause of our countries evils. Ok?

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-18 17:07

      I agree Howard. Art is not taught as a subject at most schools in SA, therefore many people will see it as a literal representation, not a metaphor for raping the Country. Blame the education system as well. People in government seem to think art and sports are frivolous pastimes - while in fact it helps people to think and grow as human beings.

  • Lesirela - 2012-05-18 13:20

    Disgusting!!! Every African should frown at this clowns!!! This now justify why 'some' media houses must have their wings permanently clipped! President Zuma is a human being, a Father, a husband, a grandfather and a great grandfather. He is to me as an African, also a father to me. Where are the ethics in the media and what kind ethics are they, if any? The media houses in this country must be Africanised to accept that South Africa is an African country with African value systems. City Press is a convert especially with some editor on board there. Hence there is no appreciation of the insult that the publication has inflicted on Africans, the Zuma dynasty and our value systems as Africans. This will never happen in any other African country as the riot Acts are clear there. The Protection of State Information Bill must cater for this!

      Bart - 2012-05-18 13:25

      spoken like a true puppet.....

      Johannes - 2012-05-18 13:36

      The truth is an ugly thing hey Lesirela

      Maltacular - 2012-05-18 13:44

      Another reason why media needs to be regulated. Surely there need to be heavy consequences for this.

      Christopher - 2012-05-18 13:53

      City Press is one of the last real journalistic papers out there. Well done and keep up your brilliant journalism and investigative journalism.

      Jacques - 2012-05-18 13:58

      Eish Lesirela. Thank God i am not African . To call this moron your father .Do you know the names of your extended family .

      Bonkers - 2012-05-18 14:25

      Oh god, my brain just oozed out of my ears.

      Press - 2012-05-18 14:40

      And once we have Africanised the media we will Africanise the world . . . we are the Borg . . . and every man will have six wives . . . wtf

      TSOTSI Smilification - 2012-05-18 15:12

      Lesirela - DONT BE AN IDIOT! THE MEDIA IS THE MOST DIVERSE SECTOR IN SA! THEY JUST DONT LIKE THE ANC BECAUSE IT'S A REGIME AND THEY ARE AWARE OF IT! STOP INSULTING THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE MEDIA!

      boitumelo.moleleki - 2012-05-18 21:38

      Lesirela,if Zoomer was a relative of mine,I would never make it publicaly known.The man is a scar on the face of Africa and as such,needs to be surgically removed to save Africa from anymore ridicule from the world.Africanise the country?Why?Whats the use of socio-economic development if our values go back to the dark ages?You talk of ethibs?Pray tell,what ethics allow a man to have unprotected sex with numerous women when he's married to 4?

      Jabu - 2012-05-19 11:55

      @Johannes. The truth that Zuma has a big dick. So why bombard us with it?

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:40

      Lesirela. Next you will be telling us Zuma is GOD.

  • Gichumz - 2012-05-18 13:21

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Murray-For-South-African-President/358167054243155

  • Nicky - 2012-05-18 13:21

    I'll say what I say & teach my children: Respect is EARNED, clearly JZ has a negative balance on this spreadsheet, and that is only judged by the responses Brett Murray etc have received, not to mention the rest of SA's oppinions

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-05-18 13:52

      I was actually wondering about the "sensorship" rating of this painting which is now allover the place for little children to see. I know for a fact that sensor raters are very "concerned" about the mail organ for some or other reason

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-18 15:32

      Like the French saying: "Viva la difference"

  • Abrham - 2012-05-18 13:23

    Umkhonto we Sizwe steve hofmeyer and zuma are spoiling for a fight zuma have stolen steve’s most coveted title ‘losgulp van die nasie’

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-05-18 13:26

    for once (never say never) I tend to agree with Vavi. My agreement is actually more along another line ie that the exhibition is called "Hail to the Thief II". Whereas we can have long debates about who are thieves and who not I do find it a little ofputting to simply imply that about your president. Now if the artist called the exhibition "hail to the king" I would have had less of a problem because then it can be understood ito the childrens story of everyone singing the praises of the beautiful clothes of the kig who was in fact nude. About this there is even a better case to be made inasmuch as few people will be so extravagant as to claim our kingdom is very well clad... Anyway- the artist has a right to express himself and this little clown is taking up his rights and not in a very subtle manner

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-05-18 13:30

      just for incase- I do NOT think it has anything to do with Apartheid but I am so not surprised that Vavi does

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-18 13:26

    Do what u do best Vavi. Throw some bricks .

  • Holdanigono - 2012-05-18 13:28

    I had a look at the painting, as an artist it was completelly not what I expected from the media. It is a very strong portrayal of him- If I had to do a painting of Abraham I would do it in the same way- as a father of a nation. The problem with art is that it is more misunderstood than appreciated. If the ANC had a more mature reaction to it the public would see them in a much better light. They are really in need of some good PR people.

      Con - 2012-05-18 13:58

      Seen in the context of the whole exhibition, which is how any reasonable person would view the painting, it is clearly not intenced to be complimentary, but, to the contrary, defamatory.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-18 15:42

      ..@ Con.. How the hell can you defame anybody who is so inept, has so many corruption charges being investigated,(Prima faci)..So many wives, children, appointing and protecting crooks and thieves (fact)and screwing the whole country. Too many adverse things to mention - he is beyond being able to defame in my book.

  • benardmonte - 2012-05-18 13:28

    I have a suggestion, the artist should do the same in Harare (Paint Mugabe) and exhibit in Harare, and also in any of the Arab World, North Korea, Thailand and in Khartoum Sudan. He will receive a lot of presents and offers and also a lot of money for his work.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-19 12:43

      Benardmonte, The artist is South African and not interested in your suggestions.