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Wage subsidy talks to be speeded up

2012-06-11 13:59

Johannesburg - The process of adopting a youth wage subsidy is being speeded up, Economic Development Minister Ebrahim Patel said on Monday.

Replying to a written parliamentary question from Democratic Alliance MP Kenneth Mubu, Patel said moves were underway to accelerate discussions at the National Economic Development and Labour Council (Nedlac).

"We have elevated the discussions to senior level with the constituents concerned to ensure that the discussions are concluded expeditiously," Patel said.

Talks have consistently deadlocked at Nedlac, with Cosatu opposing the move.

Cosatu has rejected the youth incentive scheme, arguing that employers will hire younger workers at a lower wage at the expense of older, more experienced employees.

Cosatu and Democratic Alliance members clashed in Johannesburg last month after the opposition party led a pro-youth wage subsidy march.

Parliament's finance committee has been told the design of the subsidy will be completed by the end of June.

In his reply, Patel said the Nedlac process would be accelerated, particularly during June, which had been called youth month.

"Based on progress, a report will be submitted to Cabinet to finalise the matter," he said.

Comments
  • makenawn - 2012-06-11 14:08

    No easy solution but this \youth subsidy\ should be supported,checks and balances should be on the table to guard against any move to abuse this effort

      procold2 - 2012-06-11 14:32

      there is nothing sinster here,a wage subsidy is similar to the old apprentice board,we were trained and our company could claim back for certain things, whats the big deal or am i seeing this wrong

      Kala - 2012-06-11 14:42

      If all the people had work the ANC would have nothing left to promise the people come election time. Not to many people want the houses they build because they keep falling down. They are given electricity but that is soon cut off because they can't pay as the are jobless. They are given water but that goes the same way as electricity. I can't think of any other ANC pre election promises at the moment.

  • Sandra - 2012-06-11 14:09

    "We have elevated discussions to senior level". How long do they need to make a decision. All of the ANC leaders should be sent to Joyce Banda to learn how to make a decision and how to run a country

      Mike - 2012-06-11 16:29

      Joyce Banda may be the beginning of decent African leadership and an amazing example to all politicians. Unfortunately our politicians still fit the bill of stereotypical African leadership, simply lousy!

  • Phumi - 2012-06-11 14:18

    We will reject any attempt to give out bail-outs to the wealth and rich! This is no Eurozone and the employer will never get a free-ride at our expense as tax payers. They must just create those decent jobs without any subsidies for the youth! Why would all of a sudden be jobs when there are subsidies given? Those jobs are already there we must not sell out and give in to the demands of these greedy white monopoly capitalists!

      Nosiphom - 2012-06-11 14:24

      Companies always do get a "free ride" Remember Nazir Ali, he sadi he does not know why companies oppose e-tolls because "It will be a cost of doing business, and therefore they will get some of the money back" So only the ignorant like you do not know that already our tax regime allows companies to get some money back as they give employment. Why do you imbeciles claim to hate capitalists and yet you gladly take the salary they pay you!

      Nosiphom - 2012-06-11 14:25

      By the way, the capitalists are also taxpayers - so its their money too. Why do you think it is yours more than theirs?

      makenawn - 2012-06-11 14:36

      we may excuse ignorance but when it becomes dangerously malicious we need to standup and correct the situation 1) eurozone problems - no link with youth subsidy here in Sa,2) what is this 'decent job'

      gruffi7 - 2012-06-11 14:55

      @Nosiphom - and they also tend to forget that those expensive labels that the SO love to buy is only there becuase of capitalism. It is funny how communists and socialists are the one enjoying capitalism the most!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-06-11 15:04

      Phumi, please educate yourself on the YWS and how it will be implemented and funded. Ignorance is bliss!!

      Deon - 2012-06-11 15:16

      Not everything coming from the DA is bad. The battling employer will also gain from this. Unemployment can only be relieved by this plan.

      Loo - 2012-06-11 16:09

      LOL .. holy s88it you are clueless . .I would have said more . .but you don't have the aptitude to understand anything I say .. just talk softer ,, all I ask, your'e very very irritating.

      tax.payer.142 - 2012-06-11 16:26

      Oh dear. Phumi there is no hope for people as ignorant as you. There should be a law to prevent you from voting or breeding.

  • Nosiphom - 2012-06-11 14:21

    Let me just share my view on why COSATU is wrong: 1) They say that companies will release older, experienced employees and hire the subsidised ones. First of all "bumping" as the practice would be classified as, in against the law, so no company would try to break the law, knowing they will lose at the CCMA. Companies would appreciate having youngsters with potential, but without having to commit and have difficulties releasing them when they do not need them. 2) Companies will release the now experienced youngsters after the two years in order to get new, inexperienced, subsidised youngsters. Wrong, no company would opt to be a training institution risking quality issues, just for a short sighted benefit. Many companies I know are always proud of their trusted workers who have served them well for years. So any company worth its salt would release incabable workers even before the subsidy period expires.The good ones will always be retained. Cosatu must tell us the real reason for their opposition to the subsidy, is it because the benefiting youth would not feel any allegiance to them?

      Glyn - 2012-06-11 14:32

      The youth do not owe cosatu anything!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-06-11 15:42

      Cosato became an investment house long ago. They fear their "investors" will become less due to this YWS. The do as any other company do by try to block anything that they fear can influence their amount of "investors". Wrong or not, they look at their pockets 1st.

  • donald - 2012-06-11 14:26

    running scared from the DA.....hahahahahahaha

  • Glyn - 2012-06-11 14:28

    The DA spoke, the anc listened. Viva DA! The thinking youth vote DA! They vote for their own futures, not for the pasts of their ancestors.

      Loo - 2012-06-11 14:48

      Agreed Glyn .. Im telling you the current national Govt. cry every time Zille bites into something because they know " Hierdie tannie gaan ons nou weer hard mo**er" No Wonder Zume doesnt want to face her in a public debate. He knows he would get a hiding of note and look his dumbfounded self.

  • Loo - 2012-06-11 14:32

    AGAIN !! if the DA does not do something ,, nothing would be done. Damn Zille make these other doodles look stupid ONCE again. Young South Africans have been failed by govt. and Cosatu don't want them to say.. " Zille bettered our lives" They would rather let the youth down again and blame it on racism ,, the only way to keep on brainwashing the youth " Keep them hungry and militant"

  • Steve - 2012-06-11 14:40

    if i was unemployed and i could cover my costs of food and transport etc i would work for that value to try skill myself with skills the world wants . some people actually pay to get skilled -they call it university !! think of the employers as universities ? and who knows hopefully the employees will become emplyers themselves one day

  • Steve - 2012-06-11 14:44

    lets get away from political parties we need to skill people we need to employ people we need to be worldly competitive help eliminte fraud and corruption deliver schools , hospitals and jobs with the correct remunerations have a look north and see how happy greece is - no job /not happy

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-06-11 14:50

    the effort DA is putting in is starting to bare fruit. Especially those two women,Zille and Mazibuko. These two are showing us,egotistical men, how to do a proper job. Well done ladies dont give up. We're behind you.

  • monty - 2012-06-11 14:52

    The ANC's aim is to give the black working class more power, this includes those with jobs and those without,as they will be the main force behind their National Democratic Revolution. All the labour policies of the ANC build the power of the unions while helping to price the unskilled and inexperienced out of the labour market.This plays an important part in creating the 'ticking time bomb' of huge youth unemployment. It's all going according to the ANC's master plan ,the NDR of South Africa.

  • Nosiphom - 2012-06-11 14:56

    Why don't we hold a referendum. Let the affected youth chose for themselves instead of COSATU claiming to speak for them. Cosatu stick to speaking for your constituency.

      Mike - 2012-06-11 16:37

      Nosiphom I agree, who appointed COSATU to speak on behalf of the unemployed youth as they are not members of the organization. Vavi reminds me of Jimmy Hoffa and his trade union....mafiosa. If they are not getting dues from the youth to increase the trade unions wealth and personal wealth of it's leaders, they will continue to oppose the subsidy......such hypocrisy!!!!

  • Alank1949 - 2012-06-11 15:05

    For heavens sake I am confused. There is a labour market out there where those doing the employing will and should find labour with the best expertise at the most reasonable price. If this means that the young people are able to meet that criteria they should be considered for employment. Be careful, if this does not happen those same jobs will be outsourced to other countries and South Africa would have a bigger unemployment problem than it has now. Cosatu is wrong this time and should be thinking about South Africans as a whole as being the labour pool and not just their card carrying members.

  • Phumi - 2012-06-11 15:16

    Anyone who supports this pyramid scheme devised by white monopoloy capital and the DA should be regarded as enemy number one of the working class!Those who support this sham in government our axe should fall three times on their heads come Mangaung in December. We cannot deploy people in parliament to become shopstewards of the employer and the elites!

      gruffi7 - 2012-06-11 15:45

      It is funny that you would comment here, as it seems you have NO idea of what is going on in this country!!!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-06-11 15:48

      Denial is a bitch. the DA are rising. While the ANC march against a painting the DA march against unemployment.. Ask yourself, who is looking after who??

      Mike - 2012-06-11 16:39

      Errrrr the ANC came up with idea and the DA want to see it enforced. Please save you anti white vitriol for those who are interested

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-06-11 17:38

      Hahahaha so funny

  • rivalani.mabasa - 2012-06-11 15:39

    DA has now lost a vision about unemployment eradication.

  • rivalani.mabasa - 2012-06-11 15:39

    DA has now lost a vision about unemployment eradication.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-06-11 15:47

      Denial is a bitch. the DA are rising. While the ANC march against a painting the DA march against unemployment.. Ask yourself, who is looking after who??

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-06-11 17:33

      You have lost your vision of the future

  • vincent.vinsaint - 2012-06-11 18:09

    Godzille and her fat mate lost it a while back. As for those within ANC, who are pro youth sub, let the axe fall ten times on their fat heads come December. Employment dropped by 1.3 percent in May, create jobs instead pls. Safa yitax.

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-06-11 18:23

      Nandos add is not going to work for you

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