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We don't trust Marikana probe - community

2012-10-01 20:33

Rustenburg - A group of protesters marched in Marikana on Monday as the judicial commission of inquiry into the mass shootings there inspected the scene.

One of the protesters, Spiwe Mbatha, said the community had come out to make a statement to the commission appointed by President Jacob Zuma.

"Whatever happened here is now being twisted and fabricated. The commission is likely to bring out an outcome already set," said Mbatha.

"We do not have faith in whatever processes they are having there."

A group known as the Marikana Support Campaign sent its members to stage the protest on Monday.

A co-ordinator of the group, Chris Molebatsi, said many other protests would be held in the future.

"We all saw what happened here, but now we think some people are going to get away with murder. All we ask for is justice for this community," he said.

"We are not going to back down until our message has been received. We do not have faith in that commission," said Molebatsi.

Police formed a barrier in front of the placard-waving men and women. The group of less than 100, including young children, sang and danced.

They carried posters reading: "Don't let the police get away with murder". Their songs denounced Zuma as a "rapist".

The three-member commission of inquiry was in Marikana on Monday afternoon to conduct an in loco inspection of places pointed out as relevant to its probe.

The commissioners were accompanied by legal representatives and the evidence-leading team.

Earlier, the commission's chairperson, retired judge Ian Farlam, turned down requests by a lawyer representing 20 families of those killed to postpone the matter for 14 days.

Advocate Dumisa Ntsebeza said he wanted the postponement because families of the slain mineworkers lived in rural areas of the Eastern Cape and did not know the inquiry had started.

Farlam said he had been informed that the social development department was making provisions to bring the families to Rustenburg.

Comments
  • squeegee.pilot - 2012-10-01 20:43

    Try explaining South Africa to a foreigner... Crazy society. I sometimes wonder when I fell down the rabbit hole. I must have fallen on the rabbit...

      jock.black.50 - 2012-10-01 21:17

      The masses of SA know 2 things very well. PROTEST, and KILL those who dont want to protest with you, revolting nation.

  • Bafana Joseph - 2012-10-01 20:44

    we dont need inquiry because we know what happened the police under jacob Zuma killed innocent miners...Jacob Zuma must go to jail

      asanda.p.james - 2012-10-01 21:01

      100% truth JOSEPH, J.Z. Must go to jail.

      jock.black.50 - 2012-10-01 21:15

      You are quick to forget how those miners murder people before they got shot. The whole world saw the video where the minders stormed the police with deadly weapons, 1 miner was even shooting at the police with a pistol. These thugs (miners) wanted VIOLENCE and they got it... now you all crying in sympathy for these criminals.

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-10-01 22:03

      How quickly you turn on your own. I am not supporter of Zuma, but let us be real - if he needs to go to jail, let it be for proper reasons. The instruction to shoot did not come from him - the police appeared to have been placed in a situation where they had to start defending themselves. We are constantly exposed to the same crap, and eventually we start believing it, even when it is ludicrous. Malema keeps on rattling his motor mouth about Zuma, but if Zuma carried on dancing to Malema's tunes, or if he allowed Malema to carry on with his ill-discipline, Zuma would still have been the main man. Again, I am no supporter of Zuma, but well done to him for finally waking up to Malema's dark heart.

      bobby.boon.18 - 2012-10-02 11:06

      If you blame your leader ZUMA so easily surely the whole ANC is Responsible because they are all part of it and all should go to Jail. The poor criminal let him walk free next you going to Blame the mining company becuase they did not submit to will of the workers immediately?? Skewed Perceptions if you ask me but go ahead kill and murder each other follow your true nature!

  • atholl.canterbury - 2012-10-01 20:51

    A Commission is not a court - it only has one purpose - to investigate, to establish the truth and to make recommendations. It also has powers that a court does not have - such as indemnity in exchange for the truth. If Advocate Dumisa Ntsebeza could be present - then surely those affected could also. If you're in the E-Cape and you want to be part of the truth then you would rush to the scene - to contribute to the report.

  • andrejcarstens - 2012-10-01 20:52

    They cannot be serious? If I lived in Marikana and the man send to investigate looked like P.W. Botha, I wouldnt trust the outcome either! What are they thinking?

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-01 21:14

      What should the man look like?

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-01 21:18

      A parade of lookers before appointing the commissioner? And of course his aids?

      BulletProof. - 2012-10-01 22:00

      Should the man looks like a RACIST like you?

      wilana.olivier - 2012-10-02 07:20

      And you are who again? Last time I checked there was no Judge by your name.

  • sthembiso.jali.58 - 2012-10-01 20:54

    we know the outcomes- protesters will be found guilt of instigating violent. i don't why they need 2 spend money on this.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-01 21:06

      That's exactly what they did. Do you think the families of the other 10 that were hacked to death by the miners will have faith in the commission?

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-01 21:21

      The videos we saw tell everything. So stop the pretending innocence. What about the muti-man who gave them medicine beforehand so they would become invisible to the police?

  • osama.pascal - 2012-10-01 21:10

    I am not suprised that the community feels that way. We have the SAPS doing ballistics for the commission. How the hell do you have a body that is also the subject of enquiry doing the investiagtion when you have R70m to appoint a private institution to do that? Just a question

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-01 21:39

      @ osama.pascal Valid point. Maybe the discomfort should be taken up with the commission BUT IMMEDIATELY! Get outside, independent tests and opinions. For once and all. The commission should also use its common sense. Let the country for once and all get the truth. Those videos we saw were pretty convincing. Now let's see if INDEPENDENT evidence disproves those videos.

      lephutsi.setsompa - 2012-10-01 21:42

      We all saw what happened in Marikana. The SAPS will obviously put all the evidence under the carpet as they are the ones who massacred those miners. That commission is a joke.

      John - 2012-10-01 22:30

      Now you are touching on the truth!

      John - 2012-10-01 22:35

      Now you are touching on the truth! If I commit a murder, they must have me investigate. I am so honest that I will SURELY bring ALL the facts to the fore!!

      John - 2012-10-01 22:44

      CRACKKER, I seriously would love to see ALL the videos and not the edited ten seconds we get subjected to on the TV! This surely does not give US all the facts!

  • anthony.richardson.961 - 2012-10-01 21:32

    We seem to lose sight of the fact that 10 other lives were taken by these striking miners before the miners were shot. Is there a judicial enquiry into their deaths? No! Given the past behaviour of the miners I would also shoot to kill.\r\n\r\nRIP to the 10 innocent souls killed, to the 34 moners shot, sorry for you

      John - 2012-10-01 22:26

      Do you seriously believe that the crimes commited before the massacre are NOT being investigated? Come on! It is simply not being publicised as is usual for the mainstream media?!

  • sthembiso.jali.58 - 2012-10-01 21:34

    maybe it will help if that commision is sent to invistigate the huge number of guns that goes missing in the hands of police, instead of this.

  • lephutsi.setsompa - 2012-10-01 21:37

    It is strange that Jacob Zuma has got support in the White community. This tells us that he has switched alliagence and now he serves the interests of the Whites. He should start campaigning in Orania as he will get support for killing his own people. Why are the police not being charged with the massacre of the miners? If this incident happened in the western country, the president or the minister of the police would have resigned.

      jock.black.50 - 2012-10-01 21:40

      Because the miners killed innocent people and then wanted to kill the police, they got killed in return... what about this is so difficult for you to understand??

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-01 21:41

      @Jock ~ And this means whites support Zoomer! The logic defies belief.

      John - 2012-10-01 21:53

      I'm happy that you have cognited on Zuma's secret white foreign alliance. Keep looking gather your own information. Do NOT believe what is on the TV or mainstream media. GOOD LUCK!!

      BulletProof. - 2012-10-01 22:07

      Howow, sudenly the Western policies are good enough, I am impressed.

  • John - 2012-10-01 21:44

    The SAPS policy enforcers are leading the commission around by their noses tarnishing and BIASING whatever EVIDENCE in the favour of the murdering SAPS! I hope the commission can see through this farce and communicate with the victims in order to get a balanced overview of the incredible stupidity of the thug murderers. Touch one of these things and you will suddenly be charged with attempted murder, assault of thug police officer and resisting their unlawful arrest, even though he had no lawful arrest!!!

  • John - 2012-10-01 21:46

    I don't blame these families in the least!!

  • bobby.boon.18 - 2012-10-01 21:47

    TOI TOI DESTROY GET THOSE GOODYEAR TIRES BURN A FEW PEOPLE FOR GOOD MEASURE AND DO WHAT YOU DO BEST JUST BE CAREFULL THE POLICE SHOOTS BACK!!! AND IT CANT BE BLAMED ON RACISM !

  • aiazmir - 2012-10-01 21:58

    The Commission is going through "the motions". I, likewise, do not trust the commission. The whole scenario stinks. What we all know as fact is, that the South African government represented through the SAPS, killed South African people. No Commission of enquiry can dispute that. Does it take a Commission of Enquiry to establish that? No. The South African government (the ANC) is responsible. Why appoint a Commission of enquiry? The ANC are responsible for the killing of South Africans by the SAPS. Do we need to establish a Commission to determine this. No. That is why a Commission is just a farce. Those reponsible, the ANC leaders, should be arrested and put on trial. They murdered fellow South Africans and for this there is no excuse.

  • madoda.monamudi - 2012-10-01 22:22

    10 people die before 34 we must not forget that, Police short 34 miners in defensive mechanism but the question who? butchered 10 other People.

      terrylee.heuer - 2012-10-02 07:41

      I can't forget it either madoda why is there so much silence on these 10 murders!!! Don't their families also deserve answers??!!! Murderers are walking free!!!

      mavis.tlhoaele - 2012-10-02 08:49

      U must remember dat those 10 people involves police officers just because those police are not human beings there won't b investigations to their deaths that's want most of people wants anyway.

  • Rhulani Coleman Mkhwanazi - 2012-10-01 22:30

    Zuma must just come out. if he cant, ANC must just be history of the country. We need new leaders for new country development. F*k my ANC

  • eric.f.moloi - 2012-10-01 23:24

    No point to appoint tht commission,cos the money tht will be wasted there could have compensated de family of de victims equally,rather thn paying de opportunist who did nt suffer any injuries,74million is a lot,hw r de families going to benefit de,its a way of lining ada ppl s pockets n milk de state coffers,@ de end de situation will remain de same

      sally.lewitt - 2012-10-01 23:28

      @eric, I couldn't agree more.. Just wish people can understand the full story and connect the dots and what really happened..

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