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Wild rumours follow farm killing

2012-04-15 10:01

Johannesburg – A week ago, the Steenkamp family attended Good Friday Holy Communion in Griekwastad. A few hours later Deon Steenkamp, 44, his wife Christelle, 43, and daughter Marthella, 14, were shot and killed in their house on the farm Naauwhoek.

Don, 15, the only surviving member of the family, told police that he was working in an outside barn at the time of the shooting and after hearing the shots, had gone up to the house to find he bodies of the rest of his family.

A member of the congregation told Rapport that Don had apparently had a fight with his father at the church about the fact that he wanted to farm and not go to school.

Over the last week, wild rumours circulated about the family tragedy. Questions were asked about why thousands of rands that were in an open safe, were not taken from the house and nothing else was missing either.

It was also stated that the incident looked less like a farm murder and more like some kind of family tragedy.

Legal counsel was apparently appointed for Don to protect him against “wild rumours”.

According to the latest rumours, the shooter may be one of the deceased.

A retired police detective told reporters that Don’s version of events did not make sense.

Police teams have been back to the farm for additional forensic investigations.  

 

Comments
  • Jason - 2012-04-15 10:06

    Oh dear I can see this going all pear shaped!

      Nigel - 2012-04-15 19:43

      @Rob - You are really really silly -Pathetic actually!

      Greg - 2012-04-16 08:06

      @Poloyatonky - So being a poor majority is reason for such people to commit such acts as farm murder?? Take a hike dude!!

      Rob - 2012-04-16 09:14

      chriswhite @ least I made a comment, unlike you, who's only contribution is to make a pathetic attempt of criticising me on a personal level for posting a well known fact.

      amanda.victor2 - 2012-04-16 10:10

      The press will carry on about this case because it appears this wasn't a typical farm attack committed by blacks. They will milk this story to death so that the truth about our farm murders is down-played. The media goes out of their way not to publish the horrific tortures and brutal farm slayings - but heck, they're going to keep this story alive at all costs to prove to South Africans that the other 99% of crime doesn't count compared to this non-story! Smoke and mirrors - what the media is all about.

      mheystek - 2012-04-16 10:14

      @Alicia, this happens EVERYWHERE. Why not jump off the "blame S.A." bandwagon, or better yet move to Australia.

      Rudi - 2012-04-16 10:58

      This is not about race. It's something far worse that will shake the country to a standstill when the truth comes out. No farm killings here. No poor black or jobless creature that wanted to kill a boer. No, I think that nobody wants to say it but we all think it. Little Don Steenkamp might have more to do with this than we know. It's just so very sad that people are willing to kill. No-one deserves to die like this.

      Nigel - 2012-04-16 11:13

      @Rob - yes because some things are better left unsaid - like in your case they are just silly

      John - 2012-04-16 12:21

      agree rudi,theres more than meets the eye and i dont beleive the rumour that the shooter is one of the deceased, the sap would be able to establish that right away

  • Deanner - 2012-04-15 10:09

    Someones going DOWN!!!

      mfudzi.wamambo - 2012-04-16 10:28

      the young boy, who else has a smoking gun?

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:07

      Mfudzi - how about the father killing the other 2 and then himself - why jump to conclusions!

  • Grace - 2012-04-15 10:14

    Another Lotter story... Hope it wasn't the devil again

      bluzulu - 2012-04-15 10:50

      Probably right however lets hear the facts nevertheless this made no difference regarding the Lotter case.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-15 10:55

      Shame a 14 year old child, Whomever is responsible MUST PAY.

      Grace - 2012-04-15 11:34

      @Bluzulu... It actually did make a difference for the siblings. Their sentences were VERY light compared to the '3rd son of god'. And totally unjust in my opinion! They were all as guilty as each other. Now when the released they already have a fat income from that book. Its wrong and unfortunately set a precedence instead of an example

      bluzulu - 2012-04-15 11:40

      Agreed,

  • Edwin - 2012-04-15 10:19

    If this is proven it will really be a tragedy.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-15 13:06

      Edwin, all killing are a tradegy, no matter who is involved, black or white.

  • Jacqueline - 2012-04-15 10:25

    I hate to say this but I don't think this was a farm murder. My reasons are: a) Why was the police not called to the scene but the survivor drove to the police station? b) The weapons were found by the gate leading to the farm, although possible, it is very unlikely that the alleged perpetrators would discard the weapons. c) No evidence of robbery or rape. d)The fight with his father is motive, people have killed for less as we see on a daily basis e)No evidence of breaking in was found ie broken door/windows etc. Although it could mean the person was known to the family and allowed entrance. f) The weapons belonged to the victims and were kept in a safe which was found open containing R3000. Please revert to point C again as to robbery motive. To me,the evidence is pointing to ward something other than murder and robbery.

      Jacqueline - 2012-04-15 10:31

      Just to add on, this does not necessarily mean that the son committed the crime. It could have been someone known to the family or a member of this small community.

      Grace - 2012-04-15 10:34

      Agreed. But if it does turn out to be the son, he'll get off because of his age!

      imoukangwe - 2012-04-15 10:52

      I agree with you 100%

      Mya - 2012-04-15 11:04

      Hi Libratwin, you could easily explain some of your questions: The survivor drove himself to the station as he probably hightailed it out of there fearing for his life too. B) Weapons can be abandoned, surely the serial numbers were checked and they were found not to belong to the farmer? C E F) how many times have these farm murders taken place without anything actually being stolen, they often just walk into the house, and it was probably unlocked as it was just after church and the boy was outside. D) Teenagers, if you know them, fight with everyone everyday - all those raging hormones and rebellion. Every farm boy I know has at some time wanted off the family farm and into a different life, in fact most teenagers go through a period of dreaming of a different life. So you see, while I am not saying he didn't do it, I don't think we can say he did do it. These are Wild Rumours, as the article states, and I think it is very irresponsible to publish such wild rumours about a teenage boy, printed with his name. Have a lovely sunday.

      Rob - 2012-04-15 12:34

      Libratwin, ever thought of becoming a detective? Please don't!

      Kevin - 2012-04-15 16:08

      @thapelo. Who is the racist in your comment? It doesn't seem like you even understand what racism is! But I admire the fact that you are a clairvoyant and know exactly what happened in this case. Get to your nearest police station and help them solve this case by next week!!

      Gerda - 2012-04-15 17:55

      I initially thought the father did it but not after the son told the police he found the firearms at the gate, AND all three victims where apparantly shot twice - the suspicion shifts to the only other family member present who most likely realised that his fingerprints would be on the firearms so he took them to the police station with the story he found them at the gate. Did they test his hands for gunpowder residue? How did the family get permission to clean the house before forensics started/concluded their crime scene investigation and by doing so contaminating the scene irrevocably.

      Merven - 2012-04-16 13:56

      Well, it will be easy to test the weapons, if it was dropped next to the road there must've been dust and gravel in and on the guns. Unless the kid wiped the guns for some funny reason.

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:12

      @Marven - funny haha or funny strange?? Odd or peculiar is the word.

  • RoryKlein - 2012-04-15 10:25

    Our reporters need to get the facts right. The facts in these articles are not checked and are badly written. The first report stated that the daughter was 14 and the son was 17. Now the daughter is 12 and the son is 15. I no longer know what to believe when an article is posted. What has happened to our Journalists?

      RoryKlein - 2012-04-15 11:53

      NO it did not. NOT everything has to be about black and white. As frustrated as I am with things in our country, I still believe we have a great country. BUT we as South Africans have to work together to make it a better country. What this article said to me was that a family had suffer a great loss at the hands of someone that needed to be punished for his crimes. An entire family has been effected by the tragedy and will the survivals will carry it with them for the rest of their lives. The world would be a better place in my opinion without politicians, religious leaders, lawyers and journalists. Yes it is a general statement that I made, unfortunately the few good ones trying to help are overshadowed by the cesspool of the rest. We as neighbours, friends and families need to stand together and respect and help each other to build a safer, better South Africa.

      Sannie - 2012-04-15 13:10

      @RoryKlein, sorry for yelling at you. I have come to realise that you are a reasonable person. I am also frustrated about crime, corruption, racism and all ills of our country. I hope to see a new and accountable government in future.

      SarcasticAgnostic - 2012-04-15 13:57

      We all want a "accountable government", the problem is, the accountable guys never get voted in.

      Rob - 2012-04-15 14:14

      BluZulu...Crime is directly " entwined " with socio-economic circumstances to a degree. What about the thousands & thousands of unneccesary murders that the " previously disadvantaged overbreeders " have been responsible for ? Is that a " socio - economic " thing too ? Enough with the excuses for the behaviour of your brothers.

      Smell - 2012-04-15 21:02

      Using "overbreeders" in a human context points to racism. Not acceptable. However, bluzulu, I refer you to an article in the New York Times yesterday on the dire implications of the sub-Saharan population explosion. And the NY Times is a newspaper known for having a progressive angle. This article should be compulsory reading: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/world/africa/in-nigeria-a-preview-of-an-overcrowded-planet.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=population&st=cse Ignoring the Sub-Saharan population explosion, and the terrible implications thereof, also reveals a blinkered lack of sunshine.

      Smell - 2012-04-16 08:14

      Overpopulation agenda? Are you out of your mind? Give your head a little shake. If the "evil" West secretly thinks "overpopulation" is a good thing, how come the West, like the East has been practicing "birth control" for decades now? Overpopulation is not an agenda , it it is the lack of an agenda. It is the result of mindless, reckless procreating. More joblessness, poverty, hunger, crime, pollution and destruction. If we are to believe your Facebook profile, you seem to prefer the Western city of Auckland over the slums of Lagos or Calcutta. Read the article.

      Rob - 2012-04-16 08:18

      Smell. When that particular race group is pleading poverty, yet continues to breed & raise children in an " unhealthy " enviroment, that is to the detriment of the country, not to mention the children themselves. The fact that government does not address this problem, is bewildering to me, considering the facts & the harm that this causes. This is 2012 afterall NOT 1912 !

      Landé - 2012-04-16 11:50

      @ RoryKLein.. wow what a statement to make about journalists! Do you actually know how hard it is to be one? We have to get the facts (or lies or lack of facts) given by either the police, eye witnesses, relevant roleplayers. This you have to then check, double-check again before your editor wants it yesterday!! I can assure you that we are only the messengers, we don't MAKE the news! If it wasn't for journalists my friend, you would not be hearing about the wrong of the country or be living in a democratic country (or as close as can be considering). Journalists are supposed to be the public's watchdog. Take journos away and no-one would ever know about corruption, murder or any of those things you bitch about

      Merven - 2012-04-16 14:18

      Come on Lande, the majority of the articles on N24 is worst than badly written. If you can not get the facts, write the story and get it approved before the deadline, you shouldn't be a reporter in the first place. @Bluezulu as Nature has a way of "Culling any specie population" True, but nature doesn't have medicine like antibiotics that prevent Nature from doing its job. If it wasn't for modern medicine AIDS would've sort out the over population 20 years ago already.

      Smell - 2012-04-16 17:45

      Bluzulu, pollution has a direct relationship to population size. The earth can sustain a population of 2 to 3 billion people ov the long run and we are already at 7 billion. Forests and species are disappearing at an alarming rate. Coming water and food shortages coupled with overpopulation will surely surely result in war and misery for all. No person in there right mind would like living in a slum. Slums are the result of overpopulation and poverty. Poverty exists in capitalism and socialism. So you make absolutely no sense.

      Smell - 2012-04-16 19:50

      Bluzulus comments have magically disappeared. :)

      bluzulu - 2012-04-17 06:56

      Lucky for me , I retained my wand.

      Smell - 2012-04-17 07:49

      Can you use your wand to instill a culture of birth control so that prosperity can follow? :)

  • SA - 2012-04-15 10:28

    Although there seem to be some unanswered questions here – farm attack and murders remains a serious issue for all South African’s. Out of the 35000 commercial farms operating in South African 3158 farmers have been brutally murdered since 2004, whist most of these murders have taken place since 2008. Commercial farming in South African contributes 2.6% of our total GDP (R113.4 billion) and employees around 10% of the total work force in South Africa (1.76 Million people). Our farms produce the food we eat and contribute a large part of our global exports. Some report indicate that our farmers are being killed at a rate of 330 / 100000 people per year since 2008 and the sheer violent uses during these attack indicate that there is something far more worrying going on. God bless and protect all South African, each death should be seen as a national tragedy.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-15 13:14

      What I fear is that since so many farm killing have happened and the perpetrators are always black we have started to jump to conclusions and thus when there is another murder we automatically get into blaming blacks. I am not going to participate in that game any longer. I will wait and see before airing my views.

      zetzingane - 2012-04-17 12:49

      until they regard their employees as people they are going to kill them

  • Julie - 2012-04-15 10:31

    Lets not jump to conclusions!

      Koos - 2012-04-15 11:52

      We don't jump. 9 out of 10 farm murders are done by blacks.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-04-15 12:58

      @Koos, in my previous 8 family generations, no one managed to achieve an academic degree, I, Koos, dont have one, there's no way my child will be able to get one. The whole family has genes of losers. Sad.... your frame of mind needs prayers my brother.

  • Lee - 2012-04-15 10:32

    Here is another rumour. The police since hearing these rumours have bothered to investigate.

  • HugoMabasa - 2012-04-15 10:32

    savage(s) or maybe not this time?

  • Polite - 2012-04-15 10:41

    BLACK OR WHITE PLS!!! LETS STOP THE KILLIS IT'S TO MUCH

      William - 2012-04-15 12:10

      ...KILLINGS YOU MEEN.

      Hetta - 2012-04-16 07:26

      *mean

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:15

      If you want and English lesson - it is also too and not to !!!

  • Piet - 2012-04-15 10:54

    Before somebody comments something STUPID wait for the police to conclude their work.

      HugoMabasa - 2012-04-15 14:07

      that is not how we operate on N24

      paulmandlankosi - 2012-04-16 15:06

      Why only in this case?

  • Bomb - 2012-04-15 11:02

    The fact that the police are not looking for any other suspects tells the whole story. Although very shocking and sad we can see where this is going. A lawyer and advocate don't get appointed to "protect" someone against wild rumours, unless there is weight to the case. No robbery or theft, weapons left behind, no forced entry, open safe.......it really looks bad for the young man. But unless proven guilty, lets wait and see. I have unfortunately formed my opinion already, and will apologise if I am wrong.

  • Tim - 2012-04-15 11:09

    This shows the importance of not jumping to conclusions. Its either a farm murder or a family murder - tragic either way. Its sad that previous articles have sprouted mini race-wars.

      madise.paul - 2012-04-15 11:21

      there's this white persecption when a white man is killed then a black man is a suspect.

      Tim - 2012-04-15 11:43

      Strangely, this forum really polarises black and white people. But on a face to face level, things aren't so bad.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-04-15 12:51

      @Tim, very good comment. @Koos, whether the stats are as you indicate or not, jumping the gun or drawing conclusions from previous similar incidents is never a good idea. I think that's what Tim is saying here.

      Merven - 2012-04-16 14:29

      Madise - 'there's this white persecption when a white man is killed then a black man is a suspect.' It is based on the Probability Theory Probability theory is the branch of mathematics concerned with probability, the analysis of random phenomena. The central objects of probability theory are random variables, stochastic processes, and events: mathematical abstractions of non-deterministic events or measured quantities that may either be single occurrences or evolve over time in an apparently random fashion. If an individual coin toss or the roll of dice is considered to be a random event, then if repeated many times the sequence of random events will exhibit certain patterns, which can be studied and predicted.

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:17

      @mandise.paul - the truth hursts hey!

  • franswaj - 2012-04-15 11:21

    oh my i can read between the line

      bluzulu - 2012-04-15 11:41

      What's it say?

  • Morne - 2012-04-15 11:39

    Something sheepy!

      bluzulu - 2012-04-15 12:14

      We's love our Sheep....wink wink.

  • thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-04-15 11:42

    Bring back death sentence,dats the only way to solve de murder of our innocent people. No 1 is safe in our lovely country. Black or white,if u kill u must be injected with lethal injection.

      thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-04-15 14:13

      Only zuma n his wives are safe

      Russell - 2012-04-16 08:53

      ya in the mean time the "CNA party" is laughing.......

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:19

      Why spend my tax maoney on lethal injections - buy a once-off rope - that does the trick - no extra costs involved - it should last about 200 years

  • obuti.maja - 2012-04-15 11:50

    Could we have another Benjamin Le Roux here?

  • Sello - 2012-04-15 11:57

    Ja, true. So far in all the farm murders committed by criminals, money or valuables were taken or at least attempted to take. And in all the stories it was always reported how the intruders are suspected to have gained entry, with police finding evidence of forced entry. In this particular tragedy none of the above emerged or happened.criminals don't go around killing victims and leaving bags of cash behind.

      Tanie - 2012-04-15 12:04

      They do Sello, AND then pretend to be other criminals.Savages.

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:20

      where do you come from with your "all"???

  • Francois - 2012-04-15 11:58

    Doesn't sound good at all...

  • mnthane - 2012-04-15 12:10

    let the racial moral high horse riding ignorant folk scream GENOCIDE!!! Who is the savage now? Only on this forum where racism is not concealed and hidden with fake smiles.

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-04-15 12:31

    Good God, what is this coming to be? Can it be possible that the 15 year old killed his family? What could be the motive? This is not sounding well at all.

  • Frans - 2012-04-15 12:49

    Oh come on people, it was obvious from the first report: this evil beast killed his family. If he heard shots and saw nobody leaving the scene..... No one else was there!!!

      Hetta - 2012-04-16 07:30

      The dad, perhaps?

  • Zimbobwe - 2012-04-15 12:50

    The attack on the Free State farmer who was burned and nothing stolen from him must be thoroughly investigated as well. I find it very strange that the people wanted to burn the farmer inside his own car, why??? Why didn't they went to his house and stole from there??? Why didn't they burn him and stole the car??? hmmmmmm... I smell a big fat rat. Lastly why would they run away after seeing the wife of the farmer. Knowing this beast they would've have attacked the wife also but no they got scared of a woman while busy attacking a man??? No no no no, ever heard of a criminal who got scared at a sight of a woman??? They were supposed to be licking their lips at her glimpse, you know this scoundrels who always rape when given the opportunity!!!

      HugoMabasa - 2012-04-15 14:09

      agreed.

      Michelle - 2012-04-15 16:43

      They probably thought (knew) that she already called for help. They did not run away from her, but rather because of who was on the way.

      Karen - 2012-04-15 19:59

      The farmer was clearly attacked by someone or people with a grudge against him - they wanted him dead, I dont think the motive was robbery, otherwise they would have gone into the house - the men probably fled because the floodlights came on and they werent willing (probably) to hurt the woman and were afraid that she might recognize them - I suspect it is people known to the farmer - it is definitely personal ...

      Carla - 2012-04-17 09:45

      If i remember that story correctly, wasn't he set on fire after they pulled him out the car and they then stole the car?

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:25

      Zimbobwe - now have a take on this - he was attacked at the gate and NOT at the farm house - the 2 could be far apart - there are many farmers wives who have undergone gun-training - maybe they knew this fact - so how does your storey end now. I challenge you to confront my sister who will blow your head off while shooting from the hip - don't jump to conclusions - you are showing your true colours - doff-head!

      super105 - 2012-04-17 20:16

      Buisness competition can turn ugly!

  • Jacqui - 2012-04-15 13:00

    I can see a double tradegy coming.

  • thequinns - 2012-04-15 13:51

    Oom Kriel, your comments are not for open forum, (Belittling woman like you did). The facts are, There was a murder on a farm. Its been turned into a racist argument, Why? Respect for each other is non existent, Why? That black person is in fear of his and his family's lives like you are. He knows there are scoundrels out there. We are out numbered 30 to 1, therefore, there is only a 30 to 1 chance of me as a white man robbing, or murdering anyone. FARM MURDERS have to be stopped, but a division between Afrikaans, English, German, Zulus, Xhosa, Greek, E.T.C., will NOT solve the problem. We HAVE to work TOGETHER to solve the problem. I have also made an effort to learn, speak, read and write Isizulu. Lets work together, and rid Our South Africa of scoundrels.

      Rob - 2012-04-15 14:24

      thequinns...Oom Kriel is no " oom " he is just a brain trashed black troll, stirring up the news24 commentators with mindless drivel. Strange how those who play the race card, never criticise any of his comments. Well not really that strange considering how two faced these idiots are.

      mnthane - 2012-04-15 15:22

      i once said exactly the same thing @quinns bt guess what? a certain section or rather race said am calling 4 unity coz it suits me as the victimerz were black and victims white. if u truely want 2 win the racial war and rid our beloved RSA off ignorance and racial intolerance we need 2 do it outside News24 and in2 da streets.

      mzijimmym - 2012-04-16 17:25

      Tony with an attitude like yours this country will go far, may God bless you.

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:31

      Hang on a bit - 30 to one - how do you arrive at this figure? There are 49mil in total in SA of which 5-6 million are white. Then there are Indians/Coloureds/Chinese/Malays etc. How do you get 30 to 1? "The math do not add up" Please explain!

  • Bongani - 2012-04-15 14:08

    the writing is on the wall but lets allow police to do their job.

      Eugene Walters - 2012-04-15 17:26

      from what I read its just another mysterious murder

  • JoCL89 - 2012-04-15 14:09

    This story is from the Rapport-newspaper. I would not take it serious, as they are a bunch of sansationalists.

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:33

      And of course you say the Sunday Times is not . . . ek se maar niks! Dan is daar niks! Get it?

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2012-04-15 14:14

    I am glad I did not previously comment on this happening. I h'v said before commentators should wait and not be drawn in by sensation reporting. I will also admit I did not saw as many "reference", as normally gets done, that was referring to this case on the previous related article, but they were more based on the general farm attacks. Maybe it was not only me that was wondering when reading the previous articles. Ok, except your normal stirrers.lol. I think we should once again wait for more info. True or not, this article was based, again, on speculation that sell news through sensation. Yes, the happenings partly simulate the general occurrence, which is a fact, but humans are supposed to be able to resist from forming opinions due to a norm.

  • Gauzin Mogau Seema - 2012-04-15 14:18

    Racist comment r boring! There's only one race, human race, the color of our skin means nothing.

      Rob - 2012-04-15 14:25

      Yes, but culture & how a person was / is raised seems to play an important role does.

  • ailsa.j.loudon - 2012-04-15 15:22

    I instantly thought of the son as being a suspect when I read about it! I hope he didn't do it, but these tragedies have happened for ever!

  • SA - 2012-04-15 15:29

    I hate racist - The South African’s should be uniting together no matter of what race or back ground you are from, working together to resolve some of South Africa’s fundamental issues. All South Africans have the right to be free, protected against crime, have the right to be educated to a good standard, fair opportunity to the jobs available to them and last but not least share and enjoy South Africa’s beauty and wealth together as one. South Africa and its people will only move forward is everybody respects all culture, colours, traditions and by everybody works together to overcome our home lands issue. All South African should fight against all of the very things that are currently destroying our country, We should campaign to ensure the rest of the world aware of what is happening behind our rainbow coloured curtain and putting non -violent pressure on our government to deliver on what we have all dreamed about for centuries – a true democracy, a true rainbow nation that all people can share, prosper and enjoy. We should be using this form to drive all our people forward into a bright future, toward a safer place to live, working together to build our economy and create job and uniting together in protest against poverty, inequality, crime, racism, corruption. Power to our people, let’s all work together to build a brighter future for all our people. Please no racists – only South Africans that want the best for everybody.

  • SA - 2012-04-15 15:39

    "We, the people of South Africa, Recognise the injustices of our past; Honour those who suffered for justice and freedom in our land; Respect those who have worked to build and develop our country; and Believe that South Africa belongs to all who live in it, united in our diversity. We therefore, through our freely elected representatives, adopt this Constitution as the supreme law of the Republic so as to Heal the divisions of the past and establish a society based on democratic values, social justice and fundamental human rights; Lay the foundations for a democratic and open society in which government is based on the will of the people and every citizen is equally protected by law; Improve the quality of life of all citizens and free the potential of each person; and Build a united and democratic South Africa able to take its rightful place as a sovereign state in the family of nations. May God protect our people. Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika. Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso. God seën Suid-Afrika. God bless South Africa. Mudzimu fha?utshedza Afurika. Hosi katekisa Afrika."

  • farmfreund - 2012-04-15 15:52

    It is actually innocent till proven guilty NOT Guilty until proven innocent. "Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others"

      Eulanda - 2012-04-16 18:55

      Kwaaaa I guess its Godly and righteous if a white person kills ..it make such perfect sense ..it definitely cannot be what it is ..murder ...ai white people ...lolest

  • gert.prinsloo2 - 2012-04-15 19:06

    why would the so called killers r killer left the fire arms beh ind

  • Karen - 2012-04-15 19:48

    Somethings been off about this story from the beginning - and I must say I wondered about the boy, but yes - lets wait and see what emerges here - whatever, it is a terribly sad story ..

  • gailcarolynhayes - 2012-04-15 19:58

    If these wild rumours have any substance I find it strange that the boy only had a grudge against his father. Why would he also kill his mother and his sister? Is it not possible that the father shot and killed the mother and sister while the boy was in the shed and that the son then shot the father in self defence? Let's wait for the facts to come out here but remember that whoever kills a farmer and his family is a murderer no matter what their motive or method and be less hysterical and judgemental. People jump to all kinds of excuses and make wild and offensive statements when they have only the sketchiest of ideas as to what really happened. Let's stop doing that and rather put our heads together and join hands in trying to reduce the temperatures between people. A 6 yr old boy was knocked down on a very busy road yesterday by a woman driver and equally wild stories circulated around this; that she had Altzheimers, that she didn't stop and that she stopped and dragged the child onto the side of the road and then drove off. It was a hit and run but then it transpired that she came back to the scene and hande herself over to the police. So many holes in this story - child jerked hand away from nanny and ran into road. I am sad for the child's friends and family and nanny and the old lady who hit him. Accidents happen. Murders happen all too frequently in moments of passion and panic and we ghouls exacerbate this by blaming each other etc. Crazy sad world.

  • corney.louw - 2012-04-15 20:09

    Ons glo in jou onskuld,,,,, lees Psalm 68 vers 4 tot 7

      Smell - 2012-04-15 21:05

      Would you extend the same courtesy to African suspects?

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:38

      @Smell - I'm an African and my skin is white - what are you actually meaning - black?

  • annie.kalahari - 2012-04-15 21:46

    It is always so pleasant especially for the persons involved to have the news media hold their own trials without having to wait for a court.

  • Zighom - 2012-04-16 08:02

    How does a 15yr old afford a legal team? Unless he appoints them on credit knowing he will inherit from his dead parents...

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:39

      He appoints a state attorney which is for free

  • Russell - 2012-04-16 08:51

    propaganda Bullshiit again by police and government.Its actually called Genocide.

  • Thato - 2012-04-16 08:58

    and some readers had all these F'ed up comments @ SA ridden crime and farm killings, racists blacks and I even remember seeing Julius Malema on another comment on the initial story.... where you @ ppl???

  • Lance - 2012-04-16 10:34

    After careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that this was some sort of family dispute. The father is said to have been a bit "hotheaded" yet there was not much or any signs of struggle. All three had head and chest wounds...I dont think any man would just line up and be executed without fighting his attackers to some degree, especally a rugged farmer. I think "somebody" called a family meeting..everyone huddle around and without word or warning a gun was drawn and close range shots were fired killing all three instantly. It would be quite difficult to execute all three in "head and chest" without much of a scuffle. If this was a labour dispute the farmer would have probably had a meeting outside and would not have had mom and daughter hang around to add their ten cents and money would be stolen as Im sure thats what the meeting would have revolved around. If the shooter was one of the deceased I feel they would waited and shot the son too.. This is a weak attempt at creating a farm murder scenario. RIP

      Jill - 2012-04-16 11:20

      I agree, may they RIP but it really doesn't matter if it was a farm attack or a famly tragedy... either way people are dead in what seems to be a senseless killing and any death in this way is a death too many.

  • Manu - 2012-04-16 11:12

    Wow what happened to all the other comments? LOL

  • Konrad - 2012-04-16 11:25

    o boy,another donovan moodley saga?????? did the son date a mrs. moodley?????

  • Joleen - 2012-04-16 12:38

    Until proven guilty by means of evidence linking him to the crime all is just speculation! We live in a society today, that crimes like these are often committed by people who are of no relation to the family. Who's to say that the \perfect\ family didn't have dark secrets that nobody in the community knew of? Who's to say that somebody who had issues with the father didn't hire a professional hit man to take care of matters? Maybe one of the parents were secretly having a love affair and the lover decided to seek revenge! Nothing can be proven as yet! Sadly, Don does present a lot of errors that make him look guilty, but what are the chances that shock caused him to react the way he did? How would he possibly be able to fire and kill 3 people in one room at his age and not one was able to overpower him? Judging by his reactions he made many fatal errors, but so too did the SAPD! Forensic experts weren't called to the scene immediately and so too was Don allowed to clean himself up by washing all traces of blood from his body more than once, which would eliminate any traces of DNA from him. He was not tested for traces of gsr either. Questions remain, why would he dispose the firearms at the gate then go back to the house to hold his dying sister if he just brutally shot her and then speed off to find help? A person who commits such a crime shows no compassion, otherwise he would of hesitated and would not have been able to pull the trigger! You don't shoot to kill and then comfort the dying!

      Ane - 2012-04-16 13:44

      This is verry true I totaly agree with you!!! I also believe that if it was the boy he is only 15 he would have cracked by now!! May Jesus comfort him and keep him save cause in the end only our Heavenly Father knows what really happened! And all IS INNOCENT UNTILL proven guilty!!

      Michael - 2012-04-17 10:42

      @ane - why oh why do we have to bring in this religious clap-trap in to every effing story? Can we not comment and deliver a constructive argument/discussion without the small r?

      anel.fourie - 2012-04-19 21:28

      lol think about it, he never left the guns at the gate. just took it with him and made that story up. blood from sister was when he dragged her back into the house.

      anel.fourie - 2012-04-19 21:30

      oh why is everybody not thinking of phones! cell phones, surely every member had one, in that kind of shock driving tonthe station sorry dont believe!

  • tripledunny - 2012-04-16 13:55

    Sherlock would crack this case in a second. Our police are closer to trained chimps. Took them 3 hours to write up a report when my phone was stolen. Can't imagine how long it would take for a triple murder.

  • Sobholenyoni - 2012-04-16 14:31

    At least there is no BEE member involved!

  • Carry - 2012-04-16 15:04

    DON - STOP THE "WILD RUMOURS" AND JUST COME OUT AND TELL THE TRUTH.

  • mzijimmym - 2012-04-16 17:14

    If the rumours are proven to be true this is yet another confirmation that we are indeed living in the last days.The Bible speaks of children killing their own parents!I pray for him that he may repent and find the Lord Jesus Christ in his heart>