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Winnie highway clash - cops suspended

2011-02-14 22:22

Pretoria - Two policemen involved in an altercation with ANC veteran Winnie Madikizela-Mandela and her bodyguards have been suspended, a police spokesperson said on Monday.

Colonel Neville Malila said Warrant Officer Jannie Odendaal and Constable Abel Twala were suspended with full salary and benefits pending the finalisation of disciplinary proceedings against them.

Odendaal filed charges of defeating the ends of justice, assault and reckless and negligent driving against Madikizela-Mandela and her bodyguard at the Brooklyn Police Station on Friday.

He and Constable Abel Twala stopped Madikizela-Mandela's car on the M1 north in Johannesburg in December because it was allegedly being driven recklessly at 150km/h.

The policemen said they believed the silver Audi A6 with tinted windows was "suspicious".

After stopping the vehicle, a bodyguard got out and told Odendaal that Madikizela-Mandela was in the car.

An argument ensued between the bodyguards and the policemen.

Intimidation

The bodyguards have brought charges of pointing of a firearm and intimidation against the policemen.

In line with police internal disciplinary regulations, the policemen were temporally transferred. They also had to hand in their guns.

Odendaal's suspension was "highly suspicious" coming so soon after he laid the charges at the Brooklyn Police Station, Solidarity trade union's secretary general Dirk Hermann said in a statement on Monday.

"The letter of suspension does not provide any reasons for his suspension, but does emphasise that should he be found guilty on the charge against him, he may face dismissal," said Hermann.

Malila said the suspension were made in terms of the SA Police Service disciplinary regulations and that, should criminal proceedings be instituted against the two men, they could be suspended without benefits.

"Charge sheets were drawn up last week and were due to be served on the members.

"They were, however, not served when further information came to the attention of the employer which may result in additional charges being added to the charge sheets," he said.

Hermann said the suspension of a police officer who was "merely doing his job" was cause for concern.

"There is something wrong when police members have to turn a blind eye every time a political role-player commits an offence. When police members' jobs are at risk because they did their work, there is definitely reason to be concerned," he said.

Comments
  • maseratifitt - 2011-02-14 22:35

    Thank you, Solidarity, for standing by your members. SAPS management clearly does not have the integrity to do so. This matter is in the public interest as it penetrates to the core of democracy, law and order, accountability, and just plain right and wrong.

      Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-02-15 00:03

      And yet today the police brass complained that the study about police involved in serious crimes should have been handled internally. These two police officers doing the job they are paid to do get suspended for doing it. The world seems stranger with every passing day.

      Frungy - 2011-02-15 03:25

      Solidarity are a good lot, and I wouldn't mind these cops being suspended if they applied suspensions in ALL cases where cops were accused of a serious crime, however they don't. There are cops who are accused of rape and assault but go back on duty the next day with their firearms. What is clear here is that it isn't WHAT they allegedly did, but WHO they allegedly did it to, and that's clear and simple discrimination. One law for everyone, or else South Africa is just a banana republic.

      Zanu - 2011-02-15 05:59

      a disgrace to South Africa - Winnie Madikizela-Mandela and almost all other corrupt “blue light leaders". A bunch of school yard bullies. Their day will come when the ANC regime is torn apart by the people (Like in Egypt). most South Africans might still be uneducated... but not stupid! and will get rid of these fat cats.

      Ozymandios - 2011-02-15 07:19

      @Frungy we are a Banana republic. Thats why politicians are like bananas esp our government. They are always in a bunch, all yellow and not a stright one amongst the lot of 'em. democracy in SA is not like the Ancient Greek format for democracy. Here in SA it is a 2 tier format. One law for those in power and another law for the peasants. Sorry to call you a peasant but then so am I.

      grottobay1 - 2011-02-15 07:31

      The SAPS management are not impartial or colourblind. Suspending the black member is a smoke screen. They are after the white dude. WATCH THE PAPERS CLOSELY.

      Jason - 2011-02-15 08:05

      I've seen first hand what happens if you don't move out the way of these cars doing 180 on the highway, they are extremely aggressive towards anyone that doesn't move out the way and they the one's breaking the law by speeding but we need to somehow respect the fact that they more important than us.

      dehaan1942 - 2011-02-15 08:37

      Is there any truth in the rumour that the SAPS are handed a list of "untouchables" each week that the rank and file must learn by heart and apply on pain of death? I understand that the entire Mandela family, including in-laws (and outlaws) plus the Yengeni clan, Zuma extended family, cabinet, members of parliament, and their relatives into the 10th degree are included. They are NOT to be arrested, stopped, fined, extradited, or interfered with in any way whatsoever. I should like a public disclaimer by the minister of whatever,otherwise I shall be compelled to believe this rumour.

      pointblankza - 2011-02-15 09:10

      @StoneThrower, funny how POPCRU who the black officer is a member of, has done nothing to support him? Please man, don't try and stir a race thing when your own unions have deserted him...

      Totman - 2011-02-15 09:11

      @Stone Thrower where is his union??? Is it because his union love there "mummy" more than there paying members? Maybe Odendal is a member of Solidarity. If Twala was a member he would have had the same? If no-one want to help Twala I am sure he can ask Solidarity to join his case with Odendal.[if he is going to make a case, but see he is still in a job] Odendal made a case and therefor his union must help him.

      Kiff - 2011-02-15 11:47

      And yet they do not suspend police officers suspected of fraud, corruption and many other more serious crimes than stepping on a self enflated egotists's, fraudster and murderer's feet?

      Dan - 2011-02-15 15:09

      This is very much in the public domain. Look what happened to that McBride rubbish when he was in an accident. Other police members were bribed, harrased, threatened, etc. when could well have killed an innocent family while driving drunk. He is still nothing more than a terrorist. Now Winnie and her side show is also getting away and destroying 2 of the very few police members who actually pride themselves in doing their jobs. Where is the public protector - oh yes, he is also ANC. Just have to love an ANC democracy!

      Warren - 2011-02-15 20:18

      @ pointblankza: I assume the "him" you are refering to is the black cop, as Solidarity has not deserted the white cop. If so, how has Solidarity desserted him? Is he a member? Has he asked for their help? Or should they help him if he likes it or not? (Which would be an invasion of privacy). You demand that StoneThrower (whose comment I missed, coz it was deleted) not start a race thing... & then you go ahead & start one yourself. That, as a fact & not an insult, makes you a hyppocrite. Also, I'm pretty sure someone has reached out to the black cop & told him to shut up, if he knows what's good for him. Intimidation is after all our national sport, this exact article being a point in case! Now, I'm sure you are going to say the "him" you were refering to was the white cop?

      Mike - 2011-02-16 11:16

      @Frungy - your last seven words is what I'll submit: "South Africa is just a banana republic" Enough said

  • Pappa Smurf - 2011-02-14 22:38

    This woman will one day have to answer to a higher power where no corrupt friends will be able to help her.

      f0x - 2011-02-15 01:07

      would still be fun to see her go down b4 then.. ;>

      wesley.raleigh - 2011-02-15 06:13

      @ Mr D. I'm pretty sure he means God. untie your panties a little.

      lean - 2011-02-15 08:44

      She is also very yellow, I give 98/9% she Have AIDS or HIV positive, or have drinking problems and her liver is collapsing... Do not worry everybody is going to pay for their sins one way or another...

      reader4444@24.com - 2011-02-15 13:30

      Why wait until she gets to heaven (isn't where all ANC comrades are heading, anyway?) --- rather dish out justice right now. If there were a higher power he/she would have struck down this parasite a long time ago.

      Trêvhir - 2011-02-16 07:30

      Idiot

      Trêvhir - 2011-02-16 07:41

      Let's drop the whole justice system for God to sort out huh. You won't live long asshole. You dunno much about human history do you. One ruler and the rest is slaves just like god likes it! You possibly think god is a democrat. He pardons whoever he wishes just like the ANC. No wonder the prez calls it heaven. He actually means the government. He is your uneducated highness with the plenty wifes and the MOP's his angels telling him how great he is. But even those kingdoms eventually come to a fall when they start to fight over the money!!!!!!!

  • Macho Mike - 2011-02-14 22:39

    The African National Circus will allow it's clowns to do what they please, and this shows that even the cops will not get in their way. Driving at 150km/h is cool for the clowns, and clearly the ANC is above the law.

      LP - 2011-02-15 07:52

      If I were that cop, I would have said " Carry on Auntie Winnie" and to her driver "Put foot Boet" knowing that at some stage her driver will loose it and at that speed, you can quess what will happen.

      dawie.schoeman1 - 2011-02-15 08:16

      @LP - Yes, we know wat will happen. They end up killing innocent people. What happens if it's your wife and kids. The cops should've arrested the driver on the spot.

      philani.goba - 2011-02-15 08:19

      lol..mike..you just made my moment..I often call them Angazi Nothing Comrades (basically meaning I know Nothing comrades) back to the story..it is seriously said that the country has gone to the dogs and they have taken the justice system along with them

      Wessel - 2011-02-15 08:41

      THEY MUST LET THEM DRIVE 200 MAYBE A WHEEL will puncher.

      LP - 2011-02-15 11:58

      Oi!! Dawie, check Wessel's comment, that is what is meant. Yup, there may be some "collateral damage", but just think of the benefit.....

      SAConcerned - 2011-02-15 15:09

      Why does the government not just get the MP's and all other "important" persons, gouvernment numberplates in a different color? Then people like you and me and Mr. Odendaal and his fellow police officers can easily identify the moron traveling at ridiculous speed.

  • DiePriester - 2011-02-14 22:42

    Jannie and Abel, you've got the support of millions behind you. Don't let the actual criminal scum (SAPS high brass, Winnie included) get you guys down. Her name wo'nt let her get away every time.

      f0x - 2011-02-15 01:08

      Mr D u r such a troll.

      carina - 2011-02-15 07:20

      @ Mr D - where did you read that they used a R5? Are you sure it is not just the standard issue 9mm? which 'everyday people' are you refering to? There is absolutely nothing everyday about old stompie killer!

  • Realist - 2011-02-14 22:44

    Please someone taze weenie and video it?!?!

      Aristar - 2011-02-15 08:03

      Don't tempt me.

      Other Justin - 2011-02-15 13:29

      LOLOLOL!!!! That would be the best day of my LIFE!

      bathobatena - 2011-02-15 17:28

      hahahahaha bwahahahaha!!!... ddnt c tht 1 cuming

      141mat - 2011-02-16 12:31

      LEGEND FUNNY!!!

  • Dips - 2011-02-14 22:44

    If a cop pulls you over you don't get out of your car, its standard procedure all over the world, if you get out it's a sign of aggression and a weapon of whatever sort will be used against you. Sorry bodyguard, the cops acted in self defence as they did not know who or what you are. Another thing, nobody is above the law and cops enforce the law, who the hell do you think you are, who the hell does your passengers think they are, rulers of the universe?

      Zanu - 2011-02-15 06:07

      fully agree with your comment, and wanted to press the "thumbs up". then saw your profile pic of Hitler...your a f'n loser

      sessisie - 2011-02-15 07:06

      Absolutely! Every fools knows it. Stay in your car, until instructed otherwise.

      gen.mewmew - 2011-02-15 07:47

      hahahahha Dips oh my WORD this is unbelievable!!!

      IandI - 2011-02-15 08:08

      The picture you using before you name there is sign of extreme aggression, Dips!eeew!

  • ministersofmassacre - 2011-02-14 22:44

    One word: pathetic.

  • Aristar - 2011-02-14 22:45

    To be suspended for doing their job and that witch gets to have them suspended. She and her keepers shouldn't be allowed to be on the road. they should have been locked up years ago after the Stompie affair. Watch it Winnie. One day someone will get you. The Nationalist Government always said she was their greatest asset. The ANC are a bunch of morons who should all be in jail.

  • Freakfloyd - 2011-02-14 22:45

    Wat gaan aan in ons land, Winnie, eendag sal jy moet boet, ek hoop die "stompie-spook" hou jou snags wakker

      Dips - 2011-02-14 22:58

      Nie goed genoeg dat sy eendag sal boet nie, ons boet nou en dit is die probleem.

      freddy - 2011-02-15 07:37

      Wat presies het Winnie hier gedoen?

      workonnet777 - 2011-02-15 20:11

      @ Dips - whats up with the Hitler picture? Nothing cool about that, absolutely nothing.

  • Martin - 2011-02-14 22:46

    Its time for law abiding citizens to take some action against our GOV. We might not be able to change anything by voting but we sure can stop paying all taxes. We need to use what leverage we have to stop the ANC from turning this country into a circus.

      Ringo - 2011-02-14 23:20

      If only... please explain this plan. Your employer deducts PAYE, VAT is payable on goods (unless you steal), you pay for fuel levies included etc.

      gen.mewmew - 2011-02-15 07:48

      its been a circus since 1994 tbh

      lean - 2011-02-15 08:49

      They just should of used Cele instructions on Winnie the Pooh "Shoot to kill"...

  • Joryha@24.com - 2011-02-14 22:49

    This is disgusting. ANC is dictating to the police on how to handle this internal matter. Point is these two cops were only doing their job by spotting reckless driving and stopping the car. SA lost over 1 000 people on the roads and yet the bodyguard chose to race at 150 km p/h. Who is really at fault. The law does not apply tp ANC top brass.

  • John Oxley - 2011-02-14 22:50

    The banana republic strikes again!

  • Cheryl - 2011-02-14 22:53

    you have got to be kidding me. So this woman is above the law, that much we have come to realse - but that she be allowed to cause the dismissal of two officers doing nothing more thah their job - that is too much to accept. Something must be done about this overt corruption of our society.

      Podgette - 2011-02-15 08:13

      They have not been dismissed - just suspended and you may find that once the uproar has settled will just filter back into the system. However, Mr Odendaal has laid a charge so that may just change things and then it is up to the public to demand valid reasons for any outcome. Very frustrating when these @rseholes in higher places up the tree become untouchable and unaccountable!

      Wessel - 2011-02-15 08:51

      Only Odendaal laid charges.I can tell you one thing his frend going to get his job.

      giantplums - 2011-02-15 11:27

      I think we should start toyi-toying outside parliament

  • Johan - 2011-02-14 22:54

    This is a sick story, How arrogant can you be?????

  • Pragmatist - 2011-02-14 22:54

    Monkey state... banana republic... over inflated egotesticle (yes that's how I want to spell it)politicians... don't they understand that every time they puff up their chests, the whole world laughs at them? Jannie and Able... stay true to yourselves, and if they fire you, take them to the ccma, then go and make a fortune in Afghanistan. We support you 100%

      lmduplessis - 2011-02-14 23:00

      They should start their own Security company. They'd prob make millions in SA

  • Garden_Route - 2011-02-14 22:56

    This reminds me of that story when some guy was murdered at his house on New Years Eve and few years back, and because the police were using all the cars to transport their friends to parties, no one could attend to the crime scene. Only after a white reservist told the truth to a newspaper did the cops visit the home on 2 Jan. The net result was the white reservist was suspended.......now if anyone says we don't live in a BANANA REPUBLIC.....

  • Dips - 2011-02-14 22:57

    Aaha, you see, they also suspended the black cop. They will backstabe their own to get rid of the white people. Black peoples should watch out for the ANC, it's all about power, NOT about you. Were the cops really wrong in what they did? The answer is NO. Cops will no be very careful who they pull over, cars with dark tined windows may just be a Mandela - or a criminal.

  • Wishbone - 2011-02-14 23:03

    Cry the beloved country!

  • leendert.stolk - 2011-02-14 23:11

    Surely no-onje in their right mind would even consider Winnie and her croonies being in the right? She is, and always has been, scum. Typical for South Africa's problem that the SAP doesn't even support its own policemen (and women). So all the thugs have to do is lay a charge against every police officer, who will then be suspended, rendering South Africa officially lawless (at the moment it is still unofficial).

  • Albert - 2011-02-14 23:19

    She just reckons she can go around Stomping on everybody.

  • Saige - 2011-02-14 23:25

    These poor guys have got little to no chance of success. Our judiciary is no longer independent and Winnie is one of their own.

      croix - 2011-02-14 23:51

      Winnie and her type is the "scourge of South Africa" - we do not need her in our country (yes, OUR country).

  • Cliff - 2011-02-14 23:34

    There is a "hearsay" problem here as both sides of the argument will be biased. Politicians/officials,no matter how lowly or high abuse their powers all the time because they have been given absolute power by an inept government.We are run by people who have no more experience than what they have gleened over the last decade and a half. Sorry Winnie but you seem to be a victim of your own creation.

  • andre collins - 2011-02-14 23:49

    People in SA need to rise up to this rubbish.....EGYPT ring a few bells......SA a joke. hahaha

  • MortNews - 2011-02-14 23:50

    Winnie's arrogance and avarice continues to go unpunished. She is an embarrassment to anybody with an ounce of integrity and moral fibre. Petros needs to be very careful. If he lets two cops fall because he is afraid of her, he will lose the support of many of his best police officers.

      daspoort - 2011-02-15 05:10

      Mr D, great, then please say no more

      Jean Gryzenhout - 2011-02-15 07:16

      Well she was definitely not Emily Hohouse, but would'nt know who that was would you Mr D.

      carina - 2011-02-15 07:35

      @ Mr D - "Mamma winnie, THE women(woman?) of the ANC" - Newsflash, your the only person here that gives a flying hoot about her. And she is, was and NEVER will be my Mamma. We know who she is, just like we know who Hitler is...

      Felix - 2011-02-15 09:15

      Mr D - Your momma wasn't good enough for Nelson and she aint good enough for us either!

  • shawnbrownphoto - 2011-02-14 23:57

    Flipping Disgusting. So a cop gets suspended for doing his job, trying to keep our roads safe from the idiots we call public 'servants'. 150km an hour on a public road would land you and I in prison, but not our politicians. I almost got taken out on the N1 in Randburg not so long ago by a politician's motorcade, flying past at who knows what speed. People die because of this countries politicians recklessness on the roads - there would be an uproar in the UK if something like this happened!Don't vote for criminals that get away with murder

  • cdnmoose - 2011-02-15 00:03

    Time to take a stand and end this interminable abuse of power. When some are more equal than others, it is a short ride to detaining people without cause, biased judges, and possibly in the future concentration camps, or disappearances in the night. Time to rise up, support our police and take a stand as to what we believe in as a nation. Our men and women in blue face dangerous situations on a daily basis, and what thanks do they get. Poor training, poor pay, no support from our government and suspension if they do their job by actually stopping the " Blue Light Cowboys". I say they should get a promotion for facing unspeakable danger and trauma in having to face Winnie...she could scare the dead.

  • shawnbrownphoto - 2011-02-15 00:03

    The headline should have read: Politician clashes with police on highway - Winnie suspended! Enough corruption!!

  • lmduplessis - 2011-02-15 00:11

    Winnie, plz DIAF plzkthxbai

  • 4Lappies - 2011-02-15 00:19

    This is a clear indication of how Genl Petros and his "own" deal with members. They are considered to be replaceable. Suspension is considered where serious misconduct or crime is being investigated and where there is a possibility that the person can interfere with the investigation. Both members were already punished through the transfers, now they are punished again through suspension. Maybe they were not even suspended for the original incident, but because they spoke to the media. Clearly, this is a waste of state funds. Why suspend someone when he can clearly not intervene with the investigation? There is already a serious doubt under police officers whether they should actually do their job or not. It is one of the known facts in the police that those who do their jobs will often get complaints against them, either assault, using excessive force or any other cooked complaint. Mostly just to try to get away with the complainants own misbehavior. The officers should receive counselling instead of suspension notices.

  • Allieo - 2011-02-15 00:21

    Lets see what happens......

  • larry.hanna - 2011-02-15 00:26

    Typical ANC the police do there work and just because it is Winnie they cops must be suspended. Why do you not suspend her from the ceiling she is a disgrace as the supposed mother of the nation, we would have loved to show her the respect we show for Nelson but she acts like she is God, what a pity

      AJ - 2011-02-15 04:52

      @larry.hanna "as the supposed mother of the nation" - damn, larry, why you gotta go say something like that, I threw up in my my mouth a bit there and it's not even 5 AM!

  • braveinternetguy - 2011-02-15 00:44

    Banana! Republic!

  • braveinternetguy - 2011-02-15 00:46

    Banana! Republic!

  • asiseeit - 2011-02-15 00:55

    Ask anyone in the world who Winnie is and they will tell you nothing nice, people dont even know who Zuma is but everyone remembers Stompie.

  • Sithembele - 2011-02-15 01:29

    Let the law take its own course... This once more shows the dedication of political leadership in frustrating those of us who wish to do their jobs with vigour and enthusiasm...

      tshotsho - 2011-02-15 10:52

      What law? Cause the last time I checked the same law is rotten to the core!Otherwise I agree with your second statement.

      Other Justin - 2011-02-15 13:37

      Yip, I agree. Unfortunately though, I have no faith in the law or the independance of the judiciary. It is all controlled by cadres of Zuma.

  • phillie - 2011-02-15 01:33

    Hey guys lets stop talking and do!!! Donate to Solidarity's fund for their legal costs so that they can fight this even past the concourt as far as the Hague.

  • Joe - 2011-02-15 01:56

    So once again a political FAT CAT is throwing weight around in the interest of defeating justice. Well, if this goes in the favor of tainted winnie, then I guess I'll just follow suit and disregard the law from now on. We should ALL do it, not just blacks.

  • Bill - 2011-02-15 02:21

    This should not, must not and cannot be tolerated! When the servants of the people, yes, Politicians are servants of the people, become above the law, or have control of the law, then there is no law in the constitutional sense. Our civil liberties, supposedly protected by our Constitutional laws, are being breached by nondescript politicians at an ever faster increasing pace. This is a dangerous and worrying situation. The constitutional law is supposed to serve and protect ALL! We have seen in recent times, seen evidence of our policing and judiciary becoming a branch of the Government. Manipulated to serve the totalitarian aspirations of the elite few. This matter with Winnie Mandela is precisely that. She has through totalitarian means at her disposal, totally undermined the authority of our police. Done so, as a spiteful personal vendetta to save face. In South Africa, to many, have to much to loose, because of the unjustified and unlawful actions, of so few. Yet people continue to vote for them and continue to allow them to do this. We are a puppet society, period!

      BigD - 2011-02-15 06:46

      @ Bill. There are two laws in the country. One for the anc bigwigs and another for the rest of us. When one has the status like winnie that persn is untouchable. We are closer to Zim type rule than we think. The end is in sight now. Also, cele is the anc puppet, he has no back bone and only does what his masters say.

  • X pat - 2011-02-15 03:44

    My wife and I recently returned from a months holiday in CT after leaving SA 2 years ago... Within the first 10 minutes at the airport around 5 young "police lady's" came strolling past us chit chatting and hanging off each other, as though they were taking a stroll down the beach... My wife even made the comment "what a joke.."... Thanx YOU 2 for acting in a professional, respectable, responsible manner to keep our fellow South Africans safe!! Im one of the biggest patriots ever, but stories like this just brings me one step closer to removing my proudly SA sticker off the back of my car... Utterly disgusted X-pat Canada

      wattalotokak - 2011-02-15 04:22

      Can't one start an "Unproduly SA" sticker??? It would be good to show around how MANY SA people are unproudly!! Some like this: UNPROUDLY SA : [reason] UNPROUDLY SA: Winnie is above law UNPROUDLY SA: Zuma is above law UNPROUDLY SA: Malema is above law UNPROUDLY SA: ANC is above law UNPROUDLY SA: Police is useless UNPROUDLY SA: Rapes are the norm UNPROUDLY SA: Violent Crimes are the norm UNPROUDLY SA: ANC voters are bribed with chicken and t-shirts for their votes UNPROUDLY SA: Farmers shed blood violently while we eat food supplied by them.... UNPROUDLY SA: People still live in thin shacks while ANC top-brass lives like kings and queens etc.... etc... etc....

      X pat - 2011-02-15 17:03

      We all know what's gonna happen then... Your car will get torched by "youthes"...

  • AA - 2011-02-15 04:02

    Typical Africa. Politicians think they can do what they want. The generals do not realize they are here to protect the constitutions not the ruling party. But I suppose it is nothing but one big party......

  • Hannes Perth - 2011-02-15 04:11

    I am surprised that people have an opinion on this topic as the facts on what really happened that day are not yet clear. I am interested and suspect a misuse of power but will reserve my opinion until the facts are on the table.

      wattalotokak - 2011-02-15 04:56

      My man - it is simple: When a traffic officer pulls you over do me a favour and get out of the car without him asking you to. See what will happen. While you are at it why don't you ALSO ague with the traffic officers and be unruly...! It is OBVIOUS that they would eventually pull out a gun and warn you and try to constrain you! What if you are a criminal??? They don't know that! What if I had to get out and tell them ZUMA is in my tinted car??? They would obviously want to identify you and when "ZUMA" comes out of the car to apparently calm the situation down, what do you think the traffic officers would do? When someone ELSE gets out of the car??? Well this is what WINNINE and dogs are telling us that happened..! So you STILL don't have a comment??? How about the fact that MANY cops who are said to rape, steal and be violent (never mind shoot-to-kill and ask questions later: if it is not tjhaila time), they seem to be at their post fully armed ready to do it again! But when Winnie is involved, suddenly in no time these guys who apparently did they job (as described above by me), they have been suspended, transferred, etc...! STILL NO COMMENT??? Then you must be some dead-brain ANC voter..!

      Other Justin - 2011-02-15 13:46

      When Winnie is involved, we know who the culprit is wihtout needing to know the story.

  • Willie - 2011-02-15 04:40

    HAHAHA I knew they were gona get it. The untouchable Mrs. Winnie Mandela gets away with it AGAIN!!!! Fraud, Murder, terrorism, burning people with necklaces no man I mean She can do as she wishes and even Stopie got the blame in the end for his murder. With appologies to the real Cops the police force and all the politicians involved is a scam. They are absolutely useless and of no concequince or impact in the country what so ever. The worst is they will stay that way as long as a bunch of Mamparas run the show. How Shamefull for everybody involved but I guess it is part of the ANC heaven, the ones with the connections make money and step on the rest of us. VIVA ANC, VIVA MAMA AFRICA

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-02-15 08:18

      Mama Afrika is a very fitting name for her - she does look like she swallowed the entire continent.

  • RobertKay - 2011-02-15 04:44

    So here we are - typical Africa. A convicted criminal is allowed to do as she pleases because of her political position and connections, and policemen doing their jobs get punished. Be afraid, everyone - very afraid!

  • foitapoilet - 2011-02-15 05:25

    So many people die of horrific and terrible accidents. Why cant it be Winnie?

      tyron007 - 2011-02-15 07:48

      don't worry what goes around comes around, one day Winnie will need the assistance of the police but there will be none available because she got the good once fired.

      nobodyneedstoknowme - 2011-02-15 08:26

      @tyron007 - Winnie won't need the police. She is the reason we need a police force in the first place. Anyway, she's almost dead anyway. Saw her a few weeks back and dam, is that bitch UGLY.

  • ArtGee - 2011-02-15 05:34

    Pisss the "MUGGER OF THE NATION" off.... and you pay! Different laws for the ANC ELITE and as that Rap Artists says "Can't Touch This"!!!! Lets hope this case drags on, so the two cops can rest for a year or two, on full pay!

      Felix - 2011-02-15 09:19

      Hmmm good point... Maybe they are being bribed with an extended holiday!

  • doubelljr - 2011-02-15 05:37

    Hey guys.You just did your job and did nothing wrong. Stand tall and dont' be intimidated to back down.Cst Twala thank you for putting the truth first even though they are playing the "Race" card once more.

  • Tsotsi - 2011-02-15 05:46

    Its nice to be a criminal & know the police cannot stop you. Winnie is a simple criminal, its just a pity she is Nelson Mandela's ex wife & someone who supposedly did things in the old days for the ANC.Its nice to have bodyguards who are just simple bullies & friends in the government to protect you. Now you know why our police are so useless, do your job & you could lose it or face disciplinary action.

      tiaan14 - 2011-02-15 06:14

      If you make the rules, you must follow the rule, winnie is wrong,

      Nonbeliever - 2011-02-15 07:12

      @tiaan14. No you are wrong. If you make the rules you can break the rules.

  • Thandi - 2011-02-15 06:06

    Viva Anarchy Nepotism Corruption

  • BigPig69 - 2011-02-15 06:13

    Now that's "justice" and what more support can we ask for from our top management..... Riiiiiiight.... K.M.A

  • CITIZEN - 2011-02-15 06:14

    they can be happy im not a policeman dont care if they were to fire me would have arrest them all just for the fun of it