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Witness tells of brutal dog attack

2012-06-08 10:33

Port Elizabeth - Witnesses have told of a gruesome dog attack in which the wife of a local doctor lost an arm and in which another man was injured while trying to help her.

Die Burger
reported that Heila Greeff, 49, was walking down a road in Uitenhage when the boerbull attacked her.  

“I just heard a woman screaming. I saw the dog in my yard earlier and immediately knew someone had been attacked,” said Uitenhage resident Mandy Tuck.

She said the dog, called Mufasa, belonged to a neighbour.

Tuck said she called emergency services before rushing outside with a cricket bat.

One man said that from a distance, it looked like two dogs were fighting.

Greeff was taken to hospital where her arm was amputated.

The dog was later put down.  

Comments
  • Chris - 2012-06-08 10:42

    For all those idiots who will comment on how unfair it is they put the dog down. Get lost! The amount of stress that causes is unreal. If we wish to stick up for the dog, then go have your arm amputated.

      Brian - 2012-06-08 10:52

      Good chirp Chris, my only comment is that the owners of the dog should somehow be held accountable. Almost all the vicious dog attacks that are reported in the media seem to involve a Boer Bull? They should ban the breed from this country!!

      jason.mcdonahugh - 2012-06-08 10:54

      Im not defending the dog here in any way, but honestly the owner should also bear some sort of responsabilty here.

      Curry - 2012-06-08 10:54

      If this was a story about a someone breaking into a property there would be no end to the praise for the dog who would have been put down anyway. The circumstances are sad but the problem is the same. There is no such thing as "domesticated"

      channing.froom - 2012-06-08 12:12

      boerbull are pretty much the best dogs you can get, very protective, loving and faithful dogs ! in south africa a big dog is as important as a alarm system. I grew up with boerbull's and they are very vicious dogs towards stangers but in the current state of SA that is needed ! thats what they were bread to be. They are dangerous animals, they were used to protect life stock from the wild animals of south africa, including lions !! Its the owners responsibility to contain the dog !! The owner should be harshly punished ! very unfortunate incidence - dont forget the story awhile back where a little boy was attacked by a pit bull and a boerbull jump the wall to save the kid !! GOOD AND BAD

      Justine - 2012-06-08 13:23

      @ Brian, nothing wrong with the breed (BoerBoel)!!!! Its the people who own the dog who train them to be so vicious!! Any other dog could have done the same thing!! Dont generalise! i have a Boerboel and she might lick you to death if you lucky, so!!

      Jackie - 2012-06-08 14:17

      There are two problems here and people just dont think about them. The character traits of a boerbul are sound and by all reports its a big strong dog that cares for its family & isnt vicious. A responsible breeder would not breed with any animal that isnt true to the breed. But....when a boerbul is crossed with another breed of dog that goes out of the window. You cant have any idea of what that dog may behave like. Each new generation from this dog will be less boerbul and more unknown. For sure you can get a very sound dog that is crossbred but i wouldnt take the chance with such a powerful big dog. Then there is training. Strangely a lot of people like to do attack training. Personally I dont want a dog in my home who is trained like this. Normal training & good socialisation skills will make your dog much easier to live with. I think that if you have a dog that can walk off lead meeting strange dogs & people without showing ANY snarling or vicious behaviour - then I believe there is a much reduced chance of these kind of attacks happening. O and the third thing would be the environment that the dog grew up in and lives in.

  • Rabble-Rouser - 2012-06-08 10:50

    I hope the victim sues the dog owner for everything they have got.

  • Natasha - 2012-06-08 10:58

    Dogs are like humans, they attack when they feel threatened. Its sad to read of this woman and this unfortuante tragic incident, but that does not mean that dogs are a threat to society. Anyway my point would be, if only goverment would react as we do to animals, then for every time one of us got raped or murdered the perpertrators must be put down...now thats sweet justice!

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 11:02

      yeah - go tell that to the dead toddler that was attacked by a group of dogs in Kayalitsha.

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 11:03

      Agree with you on what should happen with rapists and murderers.

      zee.angel.10 - 2012-06-08 11:42

      Cameron, as for Kayalitsha dogs....... go see under which circumstances those dogs live.... I feel sorry for the toddler. things like this should not happen at all. Mostly the OWNERS of dogs are to blame for attacks. Dogs should be on a leash when not on their property. Dogs should not be allowed to roam the streets. Dogs should be treated with respect then they will also treat humans with respect. Do yourself a favour....go look at websites of animal rescue sites. See what they deal with (especially in the townships) on a daily basis. I feel sorry for this woman who lost her arm. If the dog was in its owners property, this would not have happened. Not bad dog, but bad owner. Yep, I know I am going to get a lot of down thumbs. I dont care, this is my opinion.

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 11:50

      @ Zee - that is why each and every stray should be put down.

      zee.angel.10 - 2012-06-08 11:55

      Cameron, what's wrong with adoption?? Unless the dog is agressive..

      Jaco - 2012-06-08 11:57

      Aaaaaag please Natasha! Boerboels and many other dogs have been specifically bread for aggression. I am a BIG animal lover, and if a lion kill a person in a nature reserve, it is basically always the persons fault, but a man made dog breed attacking a lady in the street, that is NOT ON!

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 12:03

      @ Zee - there is nothing wrong with adoption. I would just dont wat to see any strays running the streets. They are usually malnourished and have a pretty shirtty life (and it takes alot to get these dogs healthy again - money and time) and with the spread of rabies in Natal I think it is important to control it before it gets out of hand. Put the miserable strays down. Its just a matter of time before another person gets injured or dies as a result of a stray.

      Sharon - 2012-06-08 12:17

      Well said!!!

  • Provence - 2012-06-08 11:00

    This is the sad situation South Africans find themselves in. It's sad because it's mostly innocent people in RSA that get the wrong end of the stick. The vicious dog (boerbull)was meant to attack the would be brutal criminals in RSA, who's main aim being to kill innocent people in their homes. The dog's owner should be held liable, but still doesn't help the poor lady who lost an arm. Thankfully the dog was put down.

  • cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 11:01

    I love some dogs, but I believe any stray dog should be put down..... If its not on a leash or with the owner, the cops should have the right to take it out.

      jason.mcdonahugh - 2012-06-08 11:17

      Umm that seems a little harsh so if someones yorkie gets out the gat the cops should just shoot it on sight?

      Klipkop - 2012-06-08 11:45

      Clearly not a pet owner. Or a dog/animal person or a logical thinker. Closet-nazi. He believes killing solves all problems. And I bet he only likes white dogs.

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 11:49

      @ Jason - yes.

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 11:55

      @ Klipkop - your name says it all.

      marco.engelbrecht - 2012-06-08 13:01

      I think you should be put down...

      Schmee - 2012-06-08 13:02

      In that case I think you should also be on a leash Cameron. You are obviously out of control.

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 16:04

      @Schmee - sometimes i am on a leash.

  • sadiemy - 2012-06-08 11:05

    My son is a vet and he says they are the most unpredictable dogs.

      Steve - 2012-06-08 11:18

      And i bet you anything he has never owned one.......I have and she was terrific with everyone including children.......unpredictable my foot....:)

      Chad - 2012-06-08 11:28

      Cant be a very good vet ....>

  • Rustee - 2012-06-08 11:09

    This must be a highly truamatic experience and should not happen to anyone. The problem that I have here is that people dont have much problems with putting a dog down once it gets out of hand and attacks someone, there are not much hard feeling with the general populace. Please keep in mind that you cannot actually speak to a dog and tell it what is wrong and what is right. Now on the other hand a human being, one that understands the difference between right and wrong, kills/rapes/ rapes and then kills another human being but there is no death sentance as it is "inhumane" and we cant "force the hand of god". Not only do we not "put down" the said so-called human but also the sentance passed down is almost laughable. I am not taking away from the incident, it was horrible and animals of that sort should not be kept as they are highly dangerous BUT why do animals work on a different set of rules to animals? This is just BS and everyone knows it...humans are so full of themselves, if you are going to have a set of rules then you should use it thrughout not when it suits you. WWII veteran man gets murdered for cell, car and cash = 18 years jail. Dog rips off womans arm = Death. Very fair indeed...

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-08 11:13

      Dogs are not human, therefor they can't be sentenced - but I would like to see some humans put down too.

      eil33nn - 2012-06-08 11:16

      Ons a dog has tasted blood, it will attack again. Seen it happen with my own eyes. LUCKILY no one was hurt

  • Bernard - 2012-06-08 11:10

    I see the comments have eased down now that we saw that it is indeed a white lady. I'm 100% sure that if it turned out the lady was black most of us would've said she was the cause of the dog attacking her. I know this because of our sick society and most of the folks on this forum. And don't ask me why am I making this a race issue, history never lies, especially news24 comment section history. Mrs Greeff I am so sorry this happened to you, you look like a very nice person who did'nt deserve for this to happen to you...

      Carla - 2012-06-08 11:35

      there's always one....troll

      JJ - 2012-06-08 12:07

      Sorry Moi but he is right...if I remember correctly the last time this happened to a domestic there were allegations of the dog being "provoked". Anyway wish her a full recovery, this is a very sad thing to have happened.

      Schmee - 2012-06-08 13:08

      Have you got some examples Bernard? I would love to see proof.

  • Kagisho - 2012-06-08 11:19

    I might sound insensitive and all, but i dont like dogs. These things have teeth like lions, tigers etc. No matter how much they are tamed they remain animals.

      eil33nn - 2012-06-08 11:22

      Thats your opinion and i agree. I like dogs, ALOT, but they still remain animals.

  • shaficks - 2012-06-08 11:21

    This is really sad. The owner's MUST be held accountable. A dog does what it is encouraged or taught to do, it has nothing to do with the breed, whether BoerBull or cross breed.

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-06-08 11:25

    mufasa jou fas

  • arnel.mostert - 2012-06-08 11:30

    For those people who says how bad a Boerboel is: have you ever had one? There is no such thing as 'n bad dog, only bad owners who don't raise and manage the dog correctly. I have a male Boerboel and he is a gentle giant, with the right training and establishing his place in the "pack", I must add. We raised two daughters with him and he never even growled at them. I also foster smaller dogs and he is SO patient and gentle with them. So please, think twice before critisising any breed of dog. Even a small breed can do a lot of damage.

      shaficks - 2012-06-08 11:31

      Exactly! Spot on!!

      eil33nn - 2012-06-08 11:33

      Agreed, my aunt had a HUGE boerboel and he was scared of her cats. Its all about the owners and how this dog was raised.

  • Hadebe - 2012-06-08 11:38

    If u train your dog to hate cats, the results will b just as devastating to the dog, cats n u, the owner, same applies to human beings.

  • donovan.botha - 2012-06-08 11:42

    Ppl if there was no crime we would have no need for ferocious animals i have a friend with a massive beutifull boerbull and he is as playfull and gentle as you have ever seen as he has growin up with the children and has never attacked anyone.but i think if someone has to attack this family this awsome animal will fight to the death.while i do not condone what happened to this lady in fact i was attacked by 2 x german sheperds + 2 x rotwilers and one little dog when i was younger all at once i was in the wrong for entering the property even though there was a for sale sighn on the vehicle i was interested in i should have called for someone.any how as i said ppl would have no need for massive animald if the crime was not so rife.

  • wayne.bayman - 2012-06-08 11:47

    Everyone claiming that a boerboel is a vicious breed please STFU. There is no such thing as a vicious breed. Any dog raised in the wrong manner will bite, the only difference between a jack russel and a boerboel is that when a boerboel gets you you loose and arm. With a jack you'll maybe loose a finger. The dog cant live in society any more and should be put down. The owner is responsible and should be held accountable for the actions of the dog.

      Sanele Kratos Fulele - 2012-06-08 11:52

      i agree Wayne there is no such thing as a vicious breed its the owners that fail to teach them properly. This is a result of failure to integrate the dog with society, kids and other dogs.

      eil33nn - 2012-06-08 12:26

      I Agree with both of you, but for pure speculation, what if the dog was provoked by people walking by the house and then unfortunatly for Heila Greeff, she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time? Not that i am saying that the tormentors of the dog should have been bitten. If there were people provoking the dog

      Schmee - 2012-06-08 13:13

      Humans are a vicious breed.

  • Eben - 2012-06-08 11:50

    Brian fault me here but i tkink you were reffering to a Pitbull and not a Boerbull

  • Ziggamann - 2012-06-08 12:00

    To all thode helping individuals in this situation. Grab the dog by both hindlegs. It will let go. It wont be able to spin around and bite. Use pepper spray if you have any or a tazer.

  • Antipoaching - 2012-06-08 12:02

    should put the owner down as well and clean up the gene pool a bit

  • ljibucher - 2012-06-08 12:04

    Cannot believe that a dog attack can be turned into a racisism issue and the likes of Hadebe and Busisiwe saying 'good'....quite disgusting ~ they would be the first to squeal like pigs if a white person said that when a black was attacked by dog. The entire issue is that it is illegal for the dog to be on public land unrestrained. It should never have been out - deal with actual issue and prosecute accordingly - whether you love or hate dogs/white ppl/black ppl etc. Dogs are powerful creatures, ppl on their high horses need to understand an attack can happen regardless of how you raise your dog - dont be so short sighted. If you are a responsible dog owner you would train, and secure your dog so incidents like this cannot happen. Its that simple. For those who swing to the other extreme of now all dogs are evil or all boerboels are killers - you are just as bad! Why must everything be to an extreme - its as bad as a column religion reading the comments here. Logic and smart thinking should apply not wildly emotional outbursts that are written badly!

      Brett - 2012-06-08 12:09

      They are negative people. Who shame our south african society. These 2 just happen to be black but there are whites like them to. Don't worry too much about them their hatred will eventually eat them up. What people like these two fine specimen don't realise is we need each other.

      luvo.luvos - 2012-06-08 13:21

      You have to make peace with the fact that most people on this News24 are brain-dead retards who use a race card and other expletives where they are not warranted. That perhaps explains their obvious shallowness

  • cvanderscholtz - 2012-06-08 12:07

    I just cant understand why people always think the worst about dogs.Always remember it depends how the owner treat and train his dog.I have a boerboel and I control him with voice commands.Dont always blame the dog.A boerboel is there to protect his owner and their property.So if she was walking in the road and doing nothing he wont turn agressive.True maybe our government must start acting like these dogs.Very protective. Clifford

  • Brendon - 2012-06-08 12:25

    I reali sorry for tht poor woman that was bbite by tht dog I hope he must pay for wht he done

      jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-06-08 12:49

      Brendon your intentions are obviously good. But firstly, the dog has already been put down. Secondly, I don't think the dog was earning a salary.

      marleze.baartman - 2012-06-09 08:30

      If Brendon was black he would have been called stupid.

  • francis.o.lai - 2012-06-08 12:31

    It brave people like the people who ran to the victim's aid which are to be commended. Well done to all of you for your bravery. To Heila Greeff I hope that you recover well and are on the mend. All you dog owners out there, in particular those with big and/or aggressive dogs, please ensure that your dogs are properly conatined and unable to get out. At the very least make sure they are well trained and vaccinated.

      delish7564 - 2012-06-09 11:25

      Francis, I agree with your comments about those that went to help this lady, they are very brave indeed. Having said that, I think you would agree there will always be some idiots who think it's funny to open a gate and see what happens. That is not the dog's fault, nor the owners for that matter. In this instance we don't know how/why the dog was on the street but unfortunately this lady was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It may well be the case that the dog had been provoked before she came along and "somehow escaped" and she paid the ultimate price. As others have said, if people felt safe and secure in their homes perhaps we would see numbers of these breeds decline - my large dogs are the gentlest "couch potatoes" around, however, if they perceive a threat of any kind to me or my family they will react, sometimes just with noise. They haven't been trained to be aggressive, on the contrary, however, instinct will kick in and you will never breed that out of any dog no matter how small or large! Hope this lady recovers soon and isn't put off dogs for life, difficult I know :(

  • marco.engelbrecht - 2012-06-08 12:59

    Mmmm... I thought South Africa dont have the death penalty... Dog attacks woman - Athorities kill dog. Man kills woman - Athorities gives man bail, only get 5 years suspended sentence or not jail time at all! Wake up SA!!!

  • Michaela - 2012-06-08 13:41

    I am the proud owner of a Boerbull and he is the most placet, loving, protective dog/friend. My children ride him like a horse and cuddle him. I know many incidents have been boerbull attacks but ANY dog no matter what breed it is, will fight till the death. Humans apparently have the same instinct. People who own animals should keep them in their own yards. I am terribly sorry for what happened Heila and hope she recovers fully from this terrible ordeal.

  • Sifiso A Radebe - 2012-06-08 13:48

    im a owner of a boerbull and im black but eyy some of the comments my fellow black bros and sista's make are a mockery to our race i mean how can you turn this into a racial issue eyy i just think yol are infected with rabies like em dogs you own next time you go to the spca inject your selves first.....

  • mandy.halltuck - 2012-06-08 14:15

    Hello, my name is Mandy from Uitenhage, I witnessed the attack yesterday on Mrs. Greeff. This lady walks past our house for years, in June last year my daughter heard a scream, 'help me help me' she was in the back garden, jumped the wall and saw the neighbours Boerbull attacking a black staffie, the staffie's head was in the boerbull's mouth, she tried in vain with the assistance of the lady and the neighbour's son.... eventaully the dog let go and a rather shocked lady left with her unhurt dog..... believe it or not yesterday's incident was the same lady, minus her dog (he has since passed) but this time the boerbull went for her....Mrs Greeff....yes it was shocking, did the dog remember her from June last year, why were the gates left open, why why why....yes I saw the dog in my garden a few minutes before the attack, yes I was looking for the owners number, yes I tried to help, the real heros are Mr Webb from the garden services who tasered the dog 3 times, the 4 Muir College teachers who knew first aid and helped....kept Mrs Greeff talking, found out her husbands name and telephone number....these are the heros, to the owner's father-in-law, Oom Piet, thank you for what u did, u were amazing, the dog ended up biting 3 people, so tell me, who was to blame, the owner whom kept the dog in this front garden day and night, running up and down the metal garden fence, barking, chasing people....never saw the outside of a garden, rip mafasa, no bad dogs, just bad owners.

      eil33nn - 2012-06-08 15:45

      Thank you for commenting Mandy, i hope that you can sleep easy and not be bothered with bad dreams about what you witnessed. If you see Mrs Greeff, please send her my regards and that she has a speedy recovery.

  • briana.scott - 2012-06-08 15:49

    All of you ignorant idiots screaming that boerbulls are at fault obviously have not put much thought into it. How many lives do you think are saved simply by owning a boerbull. They are protective and loving dogs, i will have boerbulls in my home any day. The dog is not to blame, the owners on the other hand are. There is nothing bad in them and they are quite predictable. You can predict they will do anything to protect their owner and home. it is sad that this has happened but don't damn the breed. The argument that more attacks are by boerbulls than any other might be true but it is statistically unavoidable as there are more homes with them than not. They are the most popular breed of dog in this country.

  • Abigail Bradly Hiscock - 2012-06-09 07:09

    I am so sick and tired of dogs getting a bad rap!!!!!!It's sickening that he was put down!!!!!R.I.P MUFASA.Yes,i feel sorry for the lady who was attacked,but take on the owner NOT THE DOG!!!!They are so quick to 'putting dogs down',Maybe our government should look into 'PUTTING DOWN' Rapists and Murderers!!!!!

  • Sagin - 2012-06-09 09:51

    boer bulls are only loyal to one or two members of their immediate families. they are terrorists to everyone else. how many dog attacks are boer bulls responsible for?

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